Re: [Server-devel] Attempting to re-install jabber component of XS without re-installing the entire server
Booyahkhshaa! You're the man, Martin. Hopefully I'm out of your hair for a while now. Da Godiya! -D P.S. if i first opened the website (http://schoolserver.lccnjimeta.org) from a non-xo laptop, but didn't log in, the first XO will still get semi-admin privileges, right? On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Daniel Bennett dant...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately, Moodle is not working now. Bizarre! Can you try... # this will clear out the moodle database sudo -u postgres dropdb moodle-xs # clear out the install log rm /var/log/moodle-instupg.log and then retry the /etc/init.d/moodle stop (bash -x /etc/init.d/moodle start 21) | tee moodleinit.log cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Attempting to re-install jabber component of XS without re-installing the entire server
Martin, I ran : yum --enablerepo=olpcxs-testing update It downloaded overnight and I ran the upgrade this morning. It both seemed to work and seemed to fail. Failure: during the install of the kernal module there was an I/O error and I believe a second failure cat /etc/issue returns: OLPC School Server release 9-0.5.2 Kernel \r on an \m (\l) is this what I should see after update? Success: The install as a whole seems to have completed successfully. # uname -a returns Linux schoolserver.lccnjimeta.org 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 #1 SMP TH Jun 18 12:47:50 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux I am guessing that the fc9.686 means fedora 9? That would be success right? when I try to re-run the yum --enablerepo... again it returns: Setting up Upddate Process No Packages marked for Update After running the update ejabberd was still crashing when I started it. However, I hadn't followed the instructions for clearing out ejabberd yet from your first reply. I tried following those steps (after upgrading to .6) and they seem to have worked... The service runs now without crashing, I can ping schoolserver.lccnjimeta.org and 172.18.0.1 successfully #hostname -f returns schoolserver.lccnjimeta.org However, even though I can ping these from my laptop, I can't access the web based jabber interface. I'm certain that they are communicating further, because when I open http://172.18.01/ (without :5280/admin) it leads me to a page telling me that moodle is currently disabled. Any ideas? Thanks again! -Dan On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Daniel Bennett dant...@gmail.com wrote: I installed what I think was 0.5.2 which was the newest stable release available when I brought it to Jimeta in late March of 09. What does the following command say? cat /etc/issue So the steps that I should take are: 1) backup some part of my server (how should I go about doing this?) Are we talking about making a copy of a particular directory here, or running a utility of some kind? Uh, so many ways to skin this cat! You will need an external disk for this (usb?) and probably a LiveUSB disk (or LiveCD). If you are familiar with cloning Linux OSs with rsync, that's one path (that has a quota of DIY). If you want an easy-to-use answer, I hear Mondo Rescue is popular and good, but I haven't used it myself. Your 2,3,4 steps are right... 5) Configure my magically working Jabbery goodness Step 5 is actually Enjoy magic workingness And how stable is this .6 pre-release candidate, because I want this to be as stable as possible when I leave. Definitely more stable than 0.5.2 which messed up your ejabberd install :-) m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Attempting to re-install jabber component of XS without re-installing the entire server
I've replied in line below. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Daniel Bennett dant...@gmail.com wrote: I ran : yum --enablerepo=olpcxs-testing update It downloaded overnight and I ran the upgrade this morning. Good... It both seemed to work and seemed to fail. Failure: during the install of the kernal module there was an I/O error and I believe a second failure Hmmm. An I/O error sounds a serious problem. You can verify a successful install of the kernel by doing: rpm -V kernel it should return without printing anything (no news: good news). dan: I got no news, so I guess it worked cat /etc/issue returns: OLPC School Server release 9-0.5.2 Kernel \r on an \m (\l) is this what I should see after update? that's normal until I formally release it :-) Success: The install as a whole seems to have completed successfully. good! After running the update ejabberd was still crashing when I started it. That is odd. dan: you may have answered this before reading the rest of my email, but if it was unclear, ejabberd is no longer crashing The service runs now without crashing, I can ping schoolserver.lccnjimeta.org and 172.18.0.1 successfully #hostname -f returns schoolserver.lccnjimeta.org However, even though I can ping these from my laptop, I can't access the web based jabber interface. The webbased interface is disabled now. No longer needed. dan: I ran: ejabberdctl connected-users It returns long output like (the random string here is made up by me): 34209381afaa07fa9df...@schoolserver.lccnjimeta.org/Telepathy and the number of users has grown some this morning, from about 4 to over 10 (we have a number of XO's in use here this morning for continued teacher training) So I definitely buy that some automagic is going on here. Is there perhaps documentation I can view that explains to me how to create different groups for different classes and generally manage things without the now obsolete web interface? (real world example: I would like to put all of my 5th graders in a group together, my 2nd graders in another, etc) I might even want to change these on a regular basis. Is this all done through moodle perhaps? Is there documentation I should be using for that? If you could send me a link it would be much appreciated. I'm certain that they are communicating further, because when I open http://172.18.01/ (without :5280/admin) it leads me to a page telling me that moodle is currently disabled. Moodle is disabled? Did you restart the machine? Can you tell us the output of the commands below? service pgsql-xs status Dan: postmaster is stopped chkconfig --list pgsql-xs Dan: service pgsql-xs supports chkconfig, but is not reerenced in any runlevel (run 'chkconfig --add pgsql-xs') Should I run this as it says? Other oddities noticed during reboot if they help..: klogctl during boot returns 'invalid argument' mshbonds and wmeshs do not seem to be present could not connect to server postgres as well. -D m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Attempting to re-install jabber component of XS without re-installing the entire server
We saw this message at boot, not sure if it's relevant: AICCU is not configured go to /etc/aiccu pssql now starts on boot, but we are still getting the same results when accessing: http://172.18.0.1/(moodle/) The result is a page stating: Moodle is disabled at the moment. We have rebooted more than once at this point. We've been digging around (but not changing) /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf and /etc/httpd/conf/httpd-xs.conf and they both point to a document root of /var/www/html Does this have anything to do with our problem? I don't really know what I'm doing... So, in a nutshell, pssql is running at startup, but we still can't access moodle through the web interface. Any ideas? Thanks yet again, -Dan (and Michael Ishaku) On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Daniel Bennett dant...@gmail.com wrote: rpm -V kernel dan: I got no news, so I guess it worked Good! dan: I ran: ejabberdctl connected-users It returns long output like (the random string here is made up by me): 34209381afaa07fa9df...@schoolserver.lccnjimeta.org/Telepathy That all sounds right. Some more useful commands # will show 'Online' exists $ejabberdctl srg-list-groups `hostname -f` Online # show the settings of the Online Shared Roster Group - $ ejabberdctl srg-get-info 'Online' `hostname -f` name: Online displayed_groups: [Online] description: Created_by_ejabberd_init online_users: true members: So I definitely buy that some automagic is going on here. Hey -- did you ever doubt it? :-) Is there perhaps documentation I can view that explains to me how to create different groups for different classes and generally manage things without the now obsolete web interface? (real world example: I would like to put all of my 5th graders in a group together, my 2nd graders in another, etc) I might even want to change these on a regular basis. Is this all done through moodle perhaps? Is there documentation I should be using for that? If you could send me a link it would be much appreciated. Yes, you can segregate what XOs see in the neighbourhood view by moodle course membership. This is mainly useful when you have schools with more than ~50 XOs. Quick howto: 1 - Make sure you are using a recent Browse.xo (101 at least, I think) 2 - The first XO to register (reboot) and visit moodle successfully gets some extra rights (is an 'admin' of sorts). So get an XO reg'd and visiting Moodle -- it will auto-authenticate into Moodle. Should see a 'site administration' block on the left. 3 - Create some courses (Site Administration-courses-Add/edit-Add new), assign teachers and students. In the long and confusing new course form, all you need to set is Full Name and Short Name. Please ignore every other option. Note: when it comes to enrolling, setup some courses for XOs you have registered already -- this is mainly to have something to work with! You can add more courses enrolments later. Might help: http://docs.moodle.org/en/Enrolment#Manual_enrolment 4 - In 'Site Administration', go to Courses-Presence Service, and set presencebycourse to Yes. 5 - Within 10 minutes, issuing the same ejabberdctl queries as above should show that Online has been replaced by several SRGs -- one per course. Asking for the 'info' of those, will show you their membership. 6 - When you make the switch from one mode to the other on the XS side, the situation will be confusing for the XOs, so they might need to re-associate to the Access Point (so they re-query their group membership) before they see the changes. Note: All changes to the course membership take 5~10 minutes to appear in ejabberd on the XOs, and some changes may also need an XO to reassociate to the AP. Emphasis on 'some' :-) Dan: service pgsql-xs supports chkconfig, but is not reerenced in any runlevel (run 'chkconfig --add pgsql-xs') Should I run this as it says? Yes! and then restart the server. Both pgsql-xs and moodle will start up. On this first startup, moodle will perform its setup (so it'll take a tad longer). You can see the log of the install in /var/log/moodle/instupg.log klogctl during boot returns 'invalid argument' dunno mshbonds and wmeshs do not seem to be present normal. could not connect to server postgres as well. not normal but you'll have it fixed for the next reboot :-) m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Attempting to re-install jabber component of XS without re-installing the entire server
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Daniel Bennett dant...@gmail.com wrote: We saw this message at boot, not sure if it's relevant: AICCU is not configured go to /etc/aiccu That's normal. pssql now starts on boot, but we are still getting the same results when accessing: http://172.18.0.1/(moodle/) http://172.18.0.1/%28moodle/%29 Just to confirm, what is the output of...? service pgsql-xs status (we expect it to be running) fine service moodle status (Moodle cron job is enabled) DISABLED chkconfig --list pgsql-xs (should say that it's on in 3,4 and 5) fine chkconfig --list moodle (same) fine Note! There is a 'postgres' service too. That should be stopped. couldn't find this service The result is a page stating: Moodle is disabled at the moment. That is because Moodle is having trouble starting up -- and that is all about getting the 'pgsql-xs' service going, and the initial moodle setup running. Some more debugging: - Does the file /etc/moodle/needsupgrade exist? (It should :-) ) exists - Does the file /var/log/moodle-instupg.log exist? exists You'll want to look at it. Lines with 'PHP Notice' are safe to ignore, you should see lots of SQL, and a final line saying [Wed Sep 16 05:12:57 EDT 2009] Finished install / upgrade - Success. FAILURE: mentions of correcting version/local_version mangling - will error out on fresh DBs UPDATE 0 EnvironmentPHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function upgrade_fix_incorrect_mnethostides() in /var/moodle/web/lib/db/upgrade.php on line 3167 [Time date] Finished install / upgrade - Failure I haven't answered any questions below this line. We are trying to find a way to get these files off the server. I can't figure out how to set it up as an FTP server, I can't get any linux email sending to work ((al)pine, and mutt don't seem to be installed, and when I use mail I get a message telling me that root doesn't have mail) We are trying to set another machine up to SSH into it (a machine with email access) but no luck. Any idea how I can send an email from the server? Thanks, -Dan That file probably has the secret to your woes... - What happens if you do...? /etc/initd.d/moodle stop (bash -x /etc/initd.d/moodle start 21) | tee moodleinit.log The 'tee' command will show you the output but will also save it to the moodleinit.log file. So I am hoping you can post your /var/log/moodle-instupg.log and moodleinit.log files so we can debug further. We've been digging around (but not changing) /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf and /etc/httpd/conf/httpd-xs.conf That should not affect things. If moodle is showing you the Moodle is disabled at the moment msg, the apache config is doing its job just fine :-) and they both point to a document root of /var/www/html we are overriding it -- see the /etc/httpd/conf.d/ directory :-) Does this have anything to do with our problem? I don't really know what I'm doing... You're doing pretty well, I gotta say - m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Attempting to re-install jabber component of XS without re-installing the entire server
http://sprunge.us/NcQT http://sprunge.us/MERg That curl to sprunge.us trick is nifty. automatically posting text files to a web page on the net via shell / command line .. I should have asked that question a long time ago :) On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Daniel Bennett dant...@gmail.com wrote: EnvironmentPHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function upgrade_fix_incorrect_mnethostides() in /var/moodle/web/lib/db/upgrade.php on line 3167 [Time date] Finished install / upgrade - Failure That might be the culprit. Very weird. Still, want to see the logs... We are trying to set another machine up to SSH into it (a machine with email access) but no luck. Any idea how I can send an email from the server? email is a bit awkward, but there is a pastebin-style service we can use. Try cat /path/to/file | curl -F 'sprunge=-' http://sprunge.us After a few seconds it will reply with a URL, like http://sprunge.us/EJJF where the file can be found. /etc/initd.d/moodle stop (bash -x /etc/initd.d/moodle start 21) | tee moodleinit.log I really want that moodleinit.log :-) cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Roll Call - Who is using XS in the field and for what?
Gentlemen (Michael, Akila, and Benjamin), How are things going with the school server in Jimeta? Can you reply to all to let us know? It would be great to hear how things are going! -Dan Is Backup working yet? How about collaboration with Jabber? Last I heard you were working with 0.5.2, right? I'm also guessing that Moodle is not yet functioning, is it? We didn't even attempt to approach it during my previous visit... On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Rodolfo D. rodolfo.arc...@gmail.comwrote: In Paraguay we're using servers for 10 schools (1 server per school).. the biggest school has 800 students Is it doing backup and restore for your XOs? Works just fine Is it doing jabber collaboration? Yeap Are your teachers using Moodle? No What version are you running? 0.5.2 I haven't tryed with SoaS YET.. but it's in my to-do list.. cheers.. -- Rodolfo ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] binding ejabberd on XS
I haven't looked at this for a while so take this with a grain of salt, but have you tried: Start service ejabberd ? On 6/12/09, Vamsi Krishna Davuluri vamsi.davul...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm following this guide http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software, and i blindly changed the binding address to the one given in the link, I changed it again to localhost.localdomain and it gives me the following Node ejabb...@localhost is started. Status: started ejabberd is not running. I'd like to know what i'm doing wrong, and how to go around this, Thanks Vamsi -- Sent from my mobile device ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Hoping for assistance with XS 0.5 configuration difficulties (ejabberd)
Hi all, I am working on an unofficial 100 XO pilot project in Jimeta, Nigeria until the end of the month and I've run into a wall configuring the school server. I outlined it on IRC before bringing it here. Because of the time difference and inconsistent internet connection, email is probably a better medium for assistance. I hope that someone can help. I really need to move through this issue as quickly as possible if we're going to have a working school server at this deployment before Ieave town next Saturday morning. There is much left to do besides tackling the XS. Thanks! -Dan dbennetthi all, I'm working on a deployment in Nigeria this afternoon and we are having a tough time getting the XS jabber server web admin interface to work16:05dbennettwe have managed to get it to prompt for a user/pass combo which seems to require u...@node.domain which in my case is d...@schoolserver.lccnyola.org16:06dbennettif we get any part of that or the password in correct, it just empties both fields of the prompt and waits for new info. However, if we enter u...@fqdn as I showed above and enter the correct password then it accepts our input and the prompt disappears. However, all it returns is a 401 Unauthorized page16:11dbennettWe've added the: {acl admin {user, dan, schoolserver.lccnyola.org}}. line to the access control list in /etc/ejabberd/ejabberd.cfg16:11dbennettWe are running XS 0.516:13dbennettWe are able to connect to the server with multiple users via jabber clients like pidgin and psi. However, we can't seem to get admin rights to stick to any of the users. I also can't figure out if there are multiple types of admin rights (rights to http://server/admin/) vs admin rights within a jabber client (show all online users, etc)16:18 *** jg joined #olpc-devel http://www.mibbit.com/chat/#16:18dbennettIf anyone can lend any insight it would be much appreciated. This is my 3rd day working on this issue. I'm learning more bits about ejabberd, but i've only got a week left before coming back to the states and would like to have my local server admin running a working school server before I leave. 16:52dbennettIf you reply to this later in the day and I don't reply to your reply, PLEASE send your replies to the email based version of this request sent to server-devel@lists.laptop.org as I have only infrequent internet access, and no ability to use an external IRC client from my present location. Thanks! -Dan ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Fwd: Hoping for assistance with XS 0.5 configuration difficulties (ejabberd)
I just sent this to Reuben. I have done some digging through the log file and haven't seen anything useful. Do I perhaps need to set the ejabberd.cfg file to 5:debug instead of 4:Verbose? i remember seeing something about that inside it. Unfortunately, we we haven't set up a GUI, web browser, or emailing capabilities of any kind on the server itself so emailing the log file will be a roadblock for me. I haven't worked in linux for about 5 years now until trying to tackle this project. I'm relearning how to do basic things like ls, pipe to less, and use vi for simple text edits. Setting that stuff up is likely to take a lng time. Is there anything specific I can do offline to find what you're hoping for inside. In writing you this email I just recalled the existence of grep. is there something I could grep for in the log file and give you some feedback on it? On the subject of following instructions, there have been two of us working on the server, sometimes one at a time so I can't guarantee that we've followed them to a T, but we both believe that we have. We've gone so far as to rerun the initial scripts, recheck hostname, reset the acl lines in ejabberd.cfg repeatedly, connect to the jabber server with 2 different jabber clients (which has been successful, we've chatted back and forth using our server. We just can't access the admin inteface at http://192.168.0.162:5280/admin, we keep getting 401 unauthorized), read every wiki page that sounded remotely relevant, etc. And we've been following hunches at each step so we have pulled some of the instructions out of related pages from the wiki. I've been careful to comment out all of the original lines in the ejabberd.cfg file and mark all of my changes for easy resetting of each segment to it's original state. Which I've since done. So theoretically, the file should be in it's original state except for the {acl, admin {... line that we added to give admin privs to our sample user. But of course, I could have made missed something. However, the server is still working fine when we connect via 3rd party clients (pidgin pis), so I don't think I've done anything critical... Let me know if I should grep anything out of the log file for you. Thanks for the help! -Dan -- Forwarded message -- From: Daniel Bennett dant...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [Server-devel] Hoping for assistance with XS 0.5 configuration difficulties (ejabberd) To: Reuben K. Caron reu...@laptop.org Cc: Michael Ishaku michaelish...@gmail.com Reuben, Thank you for the quick reply and the hints. I've cc'd Michael Ishaku on this thread. He's and I have been working on this issue together and he is going to be administering the server once I head back to the states. I've replied to your statements inline below to the best of my ability. Please take a look. On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Reuben K. Caron reu...@laptop.org wrote: Daniel, I am sorry to hear about all your difficulties. I'd like to work with you to get this to work. If you cannot enter the ejabberd web interface to setup the online group then XOs will not collaborate. I'd like to know about your hardware, 2 nics or 1? We have one LAN card for ethernet, but have also installed a wireless networking card for communication with Access Points. That should work, right? I'm really no IT professional... :) I'm sure you have read through this but please be sure to follow this line by line: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software#Initial_Configuration One particular point I'd like to make in the instructions is this: ---Set the hostname of the machine like this (until we fix bug 8983) by editing /etc/sysconfig/network to set HOSTNAME=schoolserver.example.org contents of /etc/sysconfig/network: NETWORKING=yes HOSTNAME=schoolserver.lccnyola.org ~ ~ /etc/sysconfig/network 2L, 50C --and restarting. We had this problem yesterday when we left, and when i arrived this morning I had to turn the server back on (it had powered off overnight due to the generator being shut down and the UPS running out of juice). I'm fairly certain that we tried rebooting a couple of times during the day yesterday as well. I'm certain that we used the command shell to: service ejabberd restart many many times both days. This would cover the restarting, right? It is important to restart before moving on; otherwise, the ejabberd db will be intialized using the wrong domain. Is the bandwidth too limited to download the new 0.5.2 ISO? If yes, I'd recommend a fresh install, connect to internet, and then after install run: yum update. After an up to date install run through the setup steps. I left the states on 3/23/09. I believe that 0.5.2 was released on 3/18/09. This is the file name for the image I brought with me (and that we are currently running: OLPC-School-Server-0.5.2-i386.iso we could probably download a fresh image with 12/24
Re: [support-gang] Harvard Square Chipotle One Burrito per OLPC!
Sorry I missed it, my meeting didn't end til 1:45... Hope they were tasty! On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Henry Edward Hardy hhard...@gmail.comwrote: I asked if I could bring 10 people, they said bring ten or as many as you want. The first ten responses are: 1: Tyler 2: Jeff 3: Brian 4: Seth 5: Frances 6: Justin 7: Mel 8: Richard 9: Adam 10. Dan B. If you still want to come and did not make the list, be at Chipotle by 1 and I will try to add you to the free food. If not, the place is pretty cheap and we can still hang out a bit. Suggest bringing your business cards (so we can win more free food later), and XO's if you want to play XO games (no reliable free wireless that plays nice with XO in H Sq, regrettably). See you at Chipotle between 12:45 and 1. --HH. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Daniel Bennett dant...@gmail.comwrote: I've got an 11:00 am meeting in Davis, but I can try to meet you Harvard by 12:30. Bump me off the list if you manage to fill it with Solid responeses. MMM, -Dan On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Any chance that you can FedEx me a burrito? I love Chipotle! :-) Christoph Am 18.12.2008 um 16:07 schrieb Henry Edward Hardy hhard...@gmail.com : We will leave from 1cc for Harvard Square Chipotle at 12:30 sharp this afternoon (Thurs, Dec 18, 2008). So far I have the following people confirmed: 1: Tyler 2: Jeff 3: Brian 4: Seth 5: Frances 6: Justin If you want to get in on this please respond asap, as I am going to open this to volunteers now. There are at least 4 places remaining. --HH. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Henry Edward Hardy he...@laptop.org he...@laptop.org wrote: Chipotle in Harvard Square called me Saturday, I won their weekly drawing again! I have set up lunch at Chipotle for us Thursday, Dec 18 at 1pm. First ten to respond to this email will get free food, anything on the menu but bottled drinks. --HH. -- ...since wars begin in the minds of men, it is in the minds of men that the defenses of peace must be constructed. --Constitution of the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization (UNESCO), 16 November, 1945 -- Give a person a fish and you feed them for a day; teach that person to use the Internet and they won't bother you for weeks. --anon ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang -- Give a person a fish and you feed them for a day; teach that person to use the Internet and they won't bother you for weeks. --anon ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel