[SailfishDevel] Follow up on Warnings shown as errors
As I haven't gotten a response I am coming back to the issue: After updating to the latest SDK on a Windows XP Pro with SP3 all warnings and errors have the same icon a red triangle. Pressing the button on the QtCreator IDE to display all or only errors doesn't work. Also double clicking on an error or warning it doesn't take me to the corresponding file/line. I have tried this on two different machines both as an upgrade from previous SDK version and as a clean installation. All occasions similar conclusion. Another thing is that when I try to debug on the actual device the application builds correctly and is automatically deployed on the device then a pop-up dialogue appears asking me for an executable, but which .exe or .cmd file should I use and what parameter should I pass? I presume as a parameter I should pass the name of the application I want to debug, but what is the executable? Under the folder .\SailfishAlpha4\mer-sdk-tools\MerSDK\SailfishOS-arm7hl are only files for compiling, packaging and deploying. NO debugging. eg: deploy.cmd gcc.cmd make.cmd qmake.cmd rpm.cmd rpmbuild.cmd ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] SIM card holder problem
The SIM card holder was loose enough that just tapping the back cover or keeping the phone in your pocket was enough for the phone to lose contact with the SIM card, forcing you to restart the phone and enter the PIN code again. It happened on a nearly daily basis until I got it fixed. On Wed May 21 2014 08:58:46 GMT+0300 (EEST), Pavel Volkov wrote: On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:55:13 PM MSK, Filip Kłębczyk wrote: * Simcard holder problem - they weren't treating it entirely seriously until I've shown it to Marko Saukko (one of their more close to HW engineers) and demonstrated that it is indeed a HW problem on last FOSDEM. Then it finally resulted in actions, like agreeing to fixing that as a part of a guarantee. As a side question, what was the problem about SIM card? The part doesn't look bad to me... ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.or -- Sent from my Jolla ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] [Sailfish Devel] how to reinstall Sdk when installation directory has been removed by accident
finally found that was because MerSDK was still running and installed. After removed it it seems to accept to be reinstalled. Le Jeudi 1 mai 2014 14h01, frances frederic frances_frede...@yahoo.fr a écrit : hi all, My sdk installation directory has been removed by accident, I would like to know if there is a way to reinstall the sdk? Actually I've downloaded sdk installer and tried to run it but it complains about previous version installed and refuse to go forward Regards, Frédéric___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] SIM card holder problem
Hi Janne, this also happens to me. How did you get it fixed? I live in Austria and wouldn't really like to ship the device for an unknown time anywhere. Cheers, Jani jannep...@gmail.com kirjoitti Wed May 21 2014 08:59:39 GMT+0200 (CEST): The SIM card holder was loose enough that just tapping the back cover or keeping the phone in your pocket was enough for the phone to lose contact with the SIM card, forcing you to restart the phone and enter the PIN code again. It happened on a nearly daily basis until I got it fixed. On Wed May 21 2014 08:58:46 GMT+0300 (EEST), Pavel Volkov wrote: On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:55:13 PM MSK, Filip Kłębczyk wrote: * Simcard holder problem - they weren't treating it entirely seriously until I've shown it to Marko Saukko (one of their more close to HW engineers) and demonstrated that it is indeed a HW problem on last FOSDEM. Then it finally resulted in actions, like agreeing to fixing that as a part of a guarantee. As a side question, what was the problem about SIM card? The part doesn't look bad to me... ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.or -- Sent from my Jolla ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.or -- Dr. Jani Kotakoski from a Jolla. Please excuse my brevity. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
[SailfishDevel] [Sailfish Devel] how to reinstall Sdk when installation directory has been removed by accident
hi all, My sdk installation directory has been removed by accident, I would like to know if there is a way to reinstall the sdk? Actually I've downloaded sdk installer and tried to run it but it complains about previous version installed and refuse to go forward Regards, Frédéric___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Discrimination and abuse from Jolla employee Thomas Perl
Merlin1991 verschob die Seite Hack-A-Jolla nach Hack-A-Handy: event umbenannt um den Sailfish Overlords nicht aufzufallen This basically just points out the fact they renamed the event from Hack-A-Jolla to hack-a-handy, in order not to get unnecessary attention from the Sailfish Overlords On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 12:50 AM, Yuvraaj Kelkar yuvr...@gmail.com wrote: Filip, what do you intend to achieve by posting your tirade in this mailing list? I saw your message, looked at the IRC logs you posted, looked at the responses that Stskeeps and thp gave you and I didn't see anything in there that would indicate that they're out to break you or ignore you out of malice. They're within their rights to privacy and not responding to you is perfectly acceptable. So far the only one defaming you is yourself. I wanted to ignore this thread because it is pointless to the nature and goal of this mailing list and I 1. don't believe you are right 2. might not have enough information I felt that I must end my non-involvement when you tried to flame someone else. My two cents: Take it offline or to t.m.o. We dont want you to waste our time here. Please. Thank you. On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Filip Kłębczyk fklebc...@gmail.com wrote: W dniu 20.05.2014 22:13, Goulagman pisze: I'm afraid that without any further proofs of people supporting one side or another, we can't go further on this complaint. But that's only my opinion. As a supplement. Wiki site of the event: https://metalab.at/wiki/Hack-A-Handy Also check it's history: https://metalab.at/wiki/index.php?title=Hack-A-Handyaction=history I must admit I don't know German and I don't know what the part means and Google Translate seems not to translate it in a way I would understand: Merlin1991 verschob die Seite Hack-A-Jolla nach Hack-A-Handy: event umbenannt um den Sailfish Overlords nicht aufzufallen And most importantly IRC log (see 19:47, 20:01): http://wklej.org/hash/8ede3d7b136/ Christian statement: 16:55 merlin1991 the meetup in essence is open, and happens in an open hackerspace, so as long as you're welcome there I can't tell you not to come and also don't want to, but thp stated he is not coming when / if you're there 16:55 merlin1991 so now I've got a conflict of interests here sence he is the one who provides most to the meetings ... Metalab statement: On behalf of the Anlaufstelle I would once again like to state that you were absolutely right to point this issue out to us. I have talked to both merlin and thp today and made it absolutely clear that exclusion of any sorts is not welcome at the Metalab. Whatever grudges thp holds against you, he will have to keep them to his private sphere of action and away from things that officially happen at the Metalab. Now whatever way thp, or anyone else involved, will handle this in the future, I cannot say, but I hope it will be a wise choice and an open, inclusive one. Let me say again, that you are at all times welcome at the Metalab* and that we're very sorry this situation occured. If anything goes wrong again in this regard or any other, feel free to contact us again at any time! Part of Stefano Mosconi response (Jolla board, said that he was representing Jolla Developer Care) on that matter: if Thomas does not want to invite you to a party he organizes that is completely his choice and does not affect Jolla public image My comment: I've explained to Stefano, that Thomas wasn't organizer of the event. More over Thomas Perl was writing about this event on Together (so according to guidelines as Jolla employee: https://together.jolla.com/question/39671/anybody-has-jolla-in-vienna/#post-id-39932 Regards, Filip ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Follow up on Warnings shown as errors
On 21.05.2014 09:04, Iosif Hamlatzis wrote: As I haven't gotten a response I am coming back to the issue: After updating to the latest SDK on a Windows XP Pro with SP3 all warnings and errors have the same icon a red triangle. Pressing the button on the QtCreator IDE to display all or only errors doesn't work. Also double clicking on an error or warning it doesn't take me to the corresponding file/line. Sorry, I think I did respond in the most annoying way: works for me. I don't know what else can be done since the same Qt Creator source is used to build the Windows version. The Windows version is built in Windows 7 (32bit) with MSVC2010 compiler. I also tested it in Windows 7 and I do get separate indication for warnings and errors as you can see [1]. Double clicking on an error/warning does take me to the corresponding file and line. Is anyone else having the same problem as Iosif? [1] http://i.imgur.com/MUjDAuM.png I have tried this on two different machines both as an upgrade from previous SDK version and as a clean installation. All occasions similar conclusion. Another thing is that when I try to debug on the actual device the application builds correctly and is automatically deployed on the device then a pop-up dialogue appears asking me for an executable, but which .exe or .cmd file should I use and what parameter should I pass? I presume as a parameter I should pass the name of the application I want to debug, but what is the executable? The debugging from Qt Creator works if Qt Creator knows what the executable it needs to run is. The pop-up dialogue is an indication that in your project this is not the case. Does the simple Sailfish template project application work for you in the way that Qt Creator would know which binary to run and consequently debug? The template project is very simple and it is of template type app (which is the default and not mentioned in the template's .pro file). It only builds one binary and it's quite obvious for Qt Creator that that is the binary it needs to run. I'm not sure how exactly Qt Creator figures out which binary to run in a more complex case. Under the folder .\SailfishAlpha4\mer-sdk-tools\MerSDK\SailfishOS-arm7hl are only files for compiling, packaging and deploying. NO debugging. eg: deploy.cmd gcc.cmd make.cmd qmake.cmd rpm.cmd rpmbuild.cmd These files are internal for Qt Creator and SDK use and there should not be need to study them. Debugging is not done via any of those scripts as you have already discovered. Best regards, Juha ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Undocumented Silica components
I am using GlassItem in Framrekkari and that is in official Jolla store. So it seems to be allowed. :) Best greetings Buschmann Am Sonntag, 18. Mai 2014, 07:33:13 schrieb Kimmo Lindholm: Is the GlassItem still no-no ? On Monday 06 January 2014 01:16 Martin Jones wrote: Hi, As a general rule, if it’s not documented then it isn’t public API. The GlassItem API hasn’t been reviewed for public use. It will probably change and is not safe for use. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Discrimination and abuse from Jolla employee Thomas Perl
On 20/05/14 21:20, Filip Kłębczyk wrote: I've read that answer and I think people are interested in what you wrote. According to the answers I have seen so far most people don't share the same opinion. Briefly speaking I can say that Stefano doesn't see any problem at all. You are speaking on my behalf now Filip. I respect you and I don't tell to the world what you write me privately. Likewise If I answer privately I would expect you to respect me and keep my answers private. Thanks -- Stefano Mosconi CTO | Jolla Join the Movement at http://shop.jolla.com ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] SIM card holder problem
Send to care is only PR solution. Repaired phones are not really repaired. Sensor shape in repaired SIM holder is same wrong as is before. This SIM holder have one big bug - wrong by design. Thin metalic edge in contact with edge of SIM. Little elevation up/down enough for shape overlaping under/over SIM card. Only one real repair exist: replace SIM holder to another type with real proper sensor. And problem with Jolla is: Jolla is resist to say this basic truth... :( I make self-repair by set proper sensor elevation and adjust SIM edge. iMHO same is really done in care center. PS: core of problem: https://mobile.twitter.com/KaaczM/status/467271505186160641/photo/1 Sorry for my ugly english. Send from Jolla phone. :) Best regards kaacz Wed May 21 2014 10:11:26 GMT+0200 (CEST), Wallace, Pete (NSN - GB/Swindon) napsal: Please See: https://together.jolla.com/question/36603/howto-return-your-jolla-for-in-warranty-repair/ Explains the process for return and how it actually works based on user feedback. PJW ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org -- Sent from Jolla phone. Powered by Linux. No Windows, no viruses. :) ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Discrimination and abuse from Jolla employee Thomas Perl
W dniu 21.05.2014 13:23, Stefano Mosconi pisze: On 20/05/14 21:20, Filip Kłębczyk wrote: I've read that answer and I think people are interested in what you wrote. According to the answers I have seen so far most people don't share the same opinion. Well it all depends where you look and who you ask. Community is not limited to this mailing list only. Also there are other people outside this community who are angry on how your company reacts. Anyway feel free to have any opinion you want. Briefly speaking I can say that Stefano doesn't see any problem at all. You are speaking on my behalf now Filip. I respect you and I don't tell to the world what you write me privately. Feel free to publish my e-mails I've sent to you and Jolla Developer Care regarding this case. I give you official permission now here before everybody. I also count that you will have courage to publish what you have written. Likewise If I answer privately I would expect you to respect me and keep my answers private. So I expect official, public answer from Jolla in this case, if your messages and what you write are confidential. I've already contacted newspapers and TV in Finland pointing them to this thread, because what I'm witnessing from this company side is just shocking. For me Jolla is self-destroying its image of an unlike company. Regards, Filip PS. From Jolla website: We are truly open. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Discrimination and abuse from Jolla employee Thomas Perl
Wed May 21 2014 13:23:12 GMT+0200 (CEST), Stefano Mosconi napsal: On 20/05/14 21:20, Filip Kłębczyk wrote: I've read that answer and I think people are interested in what you wrote. According to the answers I have seen so far most people don't share the same opinion. But most other people have same feeling as Filip.. Briefly speaking I can say that Stefano doesn't see any problem at all. You are speaking on my behalf now Filip. I respect you and I don't tell to the world what you write me privately. Likewise If I answer privately I would expect you to respect me and keep my answers private. Will be good not hide all (under carpet). Will be good to know your official statement for this known problems. Silence is not good. Jolla have too many PR, but community co-work and info is not good.. Silence, silence, silence, . :( PS: my feeling is: abandone this ship without known path and get something else builded on SWIPE UI f.ex BBZ10 .. :\ PPS: i have not-cheap preordered device, not payfree devel device. I have rights to say my critical opinion .. When I buy phone, I fulfilled half of its commitment. Now you will fulfill your half. Promises do not work forever .. :) Please do something right and do it now. With time you will lost yours fans.. Howgh, that is all on my heart .. Thanks Kaazc Thanks -- Stefano Mosconi CTO | Jolla Join the Movement at http://shop.jolla.com ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.or -- Sent from Jolla phone. Powered by Linux. No Windows, no viruses. :) ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Discrimination and abuse from Jolla employee Thomas Perl
On 20/05/14 23:13, Goulagman wrote: I am not interested in personal problems either. [snip] *So I think that an official answer from Jolla is required on these particular questions: Apparently, a request has been made by one of your employee to exclude a developer from a public event. Could you clarify the situation? Do you confirm that this has happen? If so, what was the motivation? Has Filip received proper apologies if this problem was on your side? Can you ensure that it won't happen again?* Hi Goulagman, this is a private issue that does not belong here nor to Jolla. It's difficult to separate the personal problem sphere from the answer to your questions. As I stated before I don't think that this mailing list is the right place to solve private issues. Stefano ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Discrimination and abuse from Jolla employee Thomas Perl
I as an indie developer want to know if something is going on that will affect the future of the company. Not only because I have invested money, but more importantly because I am investing time. Also I do want to know what to expect in the future in case I come to a similar situation. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Undocumented Silica components
Yep, it seems to work according to samples in componentgallery project. -Original Message- I am using GlassItem in Framrekkari and that is in official Jolla store. So it seems to be allowed. :) Best greetings Buschmann Am Sonntag, 18. Mai 2014, 07:33:13 schrieb Kimmo Lindholm: Is the GlassItem still no-no ? On Monday 06 January 2014 01:16 Martin Jones wrote: Hi, As a general rule, if it’s not documented then it isn’t public API. The GlassItem API hasn’t been reviewed for public use. It will probably change and is not safe for use. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
[SailfishDevel] Next meeting on SailfishOS, open source, collaboration: 22-May @ 10:00 UTC
Hi! Thanks to everyone who've responded on http://piratepad.net/SailfishOSSMeetings Here's the invitation/reminder for tomorrow's meeting: Date: 22 May 2014 Time: 10:00 UTC, for your local time: http://bit.ly/1lsqhlA Duration 90 minutes Chair: Carol Chen, Community Chief @ Jolla Location: #mer-meeting on Freenode IRC Those without an IRC client can access it here: http://webchat.freenode.net?channels=mer-meeting Current proposed topics: * Intro (5 min) * Documentation of open-source components * Alleged abuse/discrimination case * Updates on Mer/nemo merge * Updates on other proposals made in previous meetings Please familiarize yourself with the topics before the meeting, as well as the common Meetbot commands https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot (it's used for meeting management and logging) Thanks and see you at the meeting! Br, Carol. On 05/16/2014 03:54 PM, Carol Chen wrote: Hi, After checking our schedules, next Tuesday 20-May doesn't look good, nor does the following week on 27-May. So instead of postponing it too far, we'll have it on next Thursday 22-May @ 10:00 UTC. I hope the time is good for most of you. I will chair the meeting (other volunteers welcome), and please propose agenda items at: http://piratepad.net/SailfishOSSMeetings Couple of days before the meeting I'll send an email reminder. Till then, have a nice weekend! (It's gonna get warm in Finland, *finally*!) Carol. On 05/16/2014 12:32 PM, sfietkonstan...@free.fr wrote: When will the next meeting be ? - Mail original - De: Carsten Munk carsten.m...@jolla.com À: Sailfish OS Developers devel@lists.sailfishos.org Envoyé: Lundi 12 Mai 2014 12:32:26 Objet: [SailfishDevel] Next meeting on SailfishOS, open source, collaboration: 13-May @ 10:00 UTC Hi, Sorry for taking so long with this. I've had a child baptisement this weekend so that ended up taking more AFK time than I had hoped for. Thanks to everyone who've responded on http://piratepad.net/SailfishOSSMeeting-20140429 Date: 13 May 2014 Time: 10:00 UTC, for your local time: http://bit.ly/1lsqhlA Duration 90 minutes Chair: Carsten Munk, Chief Research Engineer @ Jolla Location: #mer-meeting on Freenode IRC Those without an IRC client can access it here: http://webchat.freenode.net?channels=mer-meeting This is more of a discussion session this time around. Agenda: * Introductions (5 min) * Chum Sync (Basil/lbt/tbr) * More closed source discussion (Carsten) - how can the community help * Accepting graphical contributions by community BR Carsten Munk Chief Research Engineer @ Jolla ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org -- Carol cybette Chen Community Chief @ Jolla http://jolla.com +358403502527 @ SMS,PSTN,WeChat cybette @ FreenodeIRC,Twitter,Weibo,LinkedIn,Skype ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Discrimination and abuse from Jolla employee Thomas Perl
This case is one topic on the upcoming SailfishOS meeting. On Wed May 21 2014 15:20:30 GMT+0300 (EEST), Iosif Hamlatzis wrote: I as an indie developer want to know if something is going on that will affect the future of the company. Not only because I have invested money, but more importantly because I am investing time. Also I do want to know what to expect in the future in case I come to a similar situation. -- Sent from my Jolla ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Follow up on Warnings shown as errors
As I see you're using a different OS, you use Win7 and I'm on WinXP Pro with SP3, it's one difference. Also you mention of MSVC2010 for the compiler. I am using the one provided with the SDK, that's a second difference. https://www.dropbox.com/s/t9djgevjufj5ekx/only_errors.PNG https://www.dropbox.com/s/prf0b61pzgwgyw3/warnings_errors.PNG From the two screen captures you can see that the same icon is used for both warnings and errors. In the first screen capture I have selected to display only errors, but you can see warnings as well. In the second screen capture I have selected to display both warnings and errors. The result is exactly the same, everything is shown. And in both cases you'll see that no icon is displayed on the line with the error. I know the usage of #error is not exactly the same as having an actual compile error, but it was the fastest way to reproduce the problem. On 21 May 2014 12:25, Juha Kallioinen juha.kallioi...@jolla.com wrote: On 21.05.2014 09:04, Iosif Hamlatzis wrote: As I haven't gotten a response I am coming back to the issue: After updating to the latest SDK on a Windows XP Pro with SP3 all warnings and errors have the same icon a red triangle. Pressing the button on the QtCreator IDE to display all or only errors doesn't work. Also double clicking on an error or warning it doesn't take me to the corresponding file/line. Sorry, I think I did respond in the most annoying way: works for me. I don't know what else can be done since the same Qt Creator source is used to build the Windows version. The Windows version is built in Windows 7 (32bit) with MSVC2010 compiler. I also tested it in Windows 7 and I do get separate indication for warnings and errors as you can see [1]. Double clicking on an error/warning does take me to the corresponding file and line. Is anyone else having the same problem as Iosif? [1] http://i.imgur.com/MUjDAuM.png I have tried this on two different machines both as an upgrade from previous SDK version and as a clean installation. All occasions similar conclusion. Another thing is that when I try to debug on the actual device the application builds correctly and is automatically deployed on the device then a pop-up dialogue appears asking me for an executable, but which .exe or .cmd file should I use and what parameter should I pass? I presume as a parameter I should pass the name of the application I want to debug, but what is the executable? The debugging from Qt Creator works if Qt Creator knows what the executable it needs to run is. The pop-up dialogue is an indication that in your project this is not the case. Does the simple Sailfish template project application work for you in the way that Qt Creator would know which binary to run and consequently debug? The template project is very simple and it is of template type app (which is the default and not mentioned in the template's .pro file). It only builds one binary and it's quite obvious for Qt Creator that that is the binary it needs to run. I'm not sure how exactly Qt Creator figures out which binary to run in a more complex case. Under the folder .\SailfishAlpha4\mer-sdk-tools\MerSDK\SailfishOS-arm7hl are only files for compiling, packaging and deploying. NO debugging. eg: deploy.cmd gcc.cmd make.cmd qmake.cmd rpm.cmd rpmbuild.cmd These files are internal for Qt Creator and SDK use and there should not be need to study them. Debugging is not done via any of those scripts as you have already discovered. Best regards, Juha ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Discrimination and abuse from Jolla employee Thomas Perl
W dniu 21.05.2014 17:06, Jarko Vihriala pisze: This case is one topic on the upcoming SailfishOS meeting. Yes I've added it even though I don't know if it's the best idea. Regards, Filip ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Discrimination and abuse from Jolla employee Thomas Perl
On Tue, 20 May 2014 20:43:24 +0200 Filip Kłębczyk fklebc...@gmail.com wrote: W dniu 20.05.2014 20:30, Tone Kastlunger pisze: IMHO, and with all respect, personally I am not interested in cutthorat and dagger, but rather interested in development issues. Feel free to not read this thread. It's your choice what you read or not. As the first person to respond to this thread, I said I was disappointed. I am even more disappointed now. I'm afraid you lost me when you shot yourself in the foot by posting private content on here. That was a private conversation and should have remained so. It is not good enough that *you* feel it should be published. Plainly a number of people, myself included do not feel that this is the right place for it. It is also not acceptable for you to say that we can read it or not. Please let this be the last posting on the subject, but having said that, I hope things work out for you. If I were closer, I'd grab you and Thomas P and bang your heads together until you resolved it ;-) ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Spacing issues
On Tue, 20 May 2014 20:14:43 + Jarko Vihriala jarko.vihri...@jolla.com wrote: What? It's a QML item. You can instantiate the standard magic as you please. For the documentation, have you visited: https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-backgrounditem.html also the SDK (1404 version) has updated Silica documentation in the built-in helps. That should get you somewhere. Have I visited URL? Nope. That didn't show up in my google searches for positioning and row. You will no doubt notice that 'row' does not feature in the example shown. You can put that down to a failure by google in you like ;-) Thanks to a previous respondent, I do now have a working solution which I will have another look at today. I'm afraid programming took a back seat today. A beer festival took pride of place in my Jolla diary. I need subject material for my app ;-) ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Discrimination and abuse from Jolla employee Thomas Perl
I also hate to see there are conflicts in the field where we all are fighting in the same side, for a greater common good (open source, underdog OS, you name it). I wish all the best for you guys and I hope you can solve things out and we can continue work our way together for the common benefit. I hope it's not impossible to anyone make some space for another who wants to help in this common target, even though there might be some minor disagreements. Let's keep in mind that we are stronger when we all agree to do stuff as one :) - Saija Lähetetty iPadista Chris Walker cdw_noki...@the-walker-household.co.uk kirjoitti 21.5.2014 kello 19.36: On Tue, 20 May 2014 20:43:24 +0200 Filip Kłębczyk fklebc...@gmail.com wrote: W dniu 20.05.2014 20:30, Tone Kastlunger pisze: IMHO, and with all respect, personally I am not interested in cutthorat and dagger, but rather interested in development issues. Feel free to not read this thread. It's your choice what you read or not. As the first person to respond to this thread, I said I was disappointed. I am even more disappointed now. I'm afraid you lost me when you shot yourself in the foot by posting private content on here. That was a private conversation and should have remained so. It is not good enough that *you* feel it should be published. Plainly a number of people, myself included do not feel that this is the right place for it. It is also not acceptable for you to say that we can read it or not. Please let this be the last posting on the subject, but having said that, I hope things work out for you. If I were closer, I'd grab you and Thomas P and bang your heads together until you resolved it ;-) ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Discrimination and abuse from Jolla employee Thomas Perl
W dniu 21.05.2014 18:35, Chris Walker pisze: As the first person to respond to this thread, I said I was disappointed. I am even more disappointed now. I'm afraid you lost me when you shot yourself in the foot by posting private content on here. That was a private conversation and should have remained so. It is not good enough that *you* feel it should be published. Plainly a number of people, myself included do not feel that this is the right place for it. Yes, I agree that I should have asked Stefano, before I've pasted part of his mail if he doesn't have anything against that. I'm sorry that I haven't done that and falsely assumed, that when he wrote at beginning that I can treat it as official Jolla Developer Care response, then I'm allowed to post anything from it here. It was my mistake. It is also not acceptable for you to say that we can read it or not. Sorry, but this topic didn't have serious approach in Jolla and I believe this was the right place for that - the problem is about someone from the (developer) community willing to contribute/help and someone from company blocking that or making that harder. It is about participation/_development_ in the open parts, so I don't see any more proper place for that, though I respect you have a different view of it. Regards, Filip ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Discrimination and abuse from Jolla employee Thomas Perl
W dniu 21.05.2014 18:46, Saija Saarenpää pisze: I also hate to see there are conflicts in the field where we all are fighting in the same side, for a greater common good (open source, underdog OS, you name it). I wish all the best for you guys and I hope you can solve things out and we can continue work our way together for the common benefit. I hope it's not impossible to anyone make some space for another who wants to help in this common target, even though there might be some minor disagreements. Let's keep in mind that we are stronger when we all agree to do stuff as one :) Saija, I believe that if the company seriously and fairly will deal with the problem it can only come out stronger from it. I still have some hope for that, despite many disappointments in the recent days. You probably know the saying - if there is a will there is a way. There must be an honest will on both sides to treat the problem completely seriously and look for solution. I haven't closed myself to talk with them not even for a moment, but the ball is on Jolla side. Regards, Filip ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Discrimination and abuse from Jolla employee Thomas Perl
Hello Stefano, Thanks for your answer. this is a private issue that does not belong here nor to Jolla. It's difficult to separate the personal problem sphere from the answer to your questions. I have tried to sort out the public matter out of all these personal problems. I'm gonna be selfish this time. I like Python, I think that it is a wonderful language and may code python applications for my Jolla once I'll get more free time. Apparently, Thomas Perl is one of the guy in Jolla to work with Python. If, at some point, I get in personal trouble with this guy, I hope he won't exclude me from any public event because of that, and especially using Jolla as a lever. Believe me, I already experienced a really tricky situation where I had to work with somebody I had huge personal problems with. And it never affected professional matters because we put a clear separation between the two. In this case, some personal matters seems to have lead to a public action: asking for the exclusion of somebody from a public event. From your answer, I understand that such a request was made and motivated by personal reasons. Again, I don't point any fingers, but this fact will just add up to the list of all doubts I already have regarding Jolla and what's happening in the community around. Best, Alexandre. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Discrimination and abuse from Jolla employee Thomas Perl
So Thomas Perl and I were in a conflict since beginning of 2013, before he was a Jolla employee. From his side I've received insults (was compared to psycho, called asshole etc.) and even threats (he was threatening me to discredit me in Python community, also he was threatening publish my private mails, where I've begged him to stop this conflict). Thomas used all sorts of actions against me, including kicking me from gPodder project to which I've previously contributed, without any factual technical/quality reasons. I've made many attempts to end this conflict at that time, but without any results. I recall you mention there was something else here which acted as an ignition for this kribiskrabis, but all you have provided after that is information related to subsequent events. What keeps you from mentioning the reasons to the conflict between you and THP? On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Goulagman goulag...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Stefano, Thanks for your answer. this is a private issue that does not belong here nor to Jolla. It's difficult to separate the personal problem sphere from the answer to your questions. I have tried to sort out the public matter out of all these personal problems. I'm gonna be selfish this time. I like Python, I think that it is a wonderful language and may code python applications for my Jolla once I'll get more free time. Apparently, Thomas Perl is one of the guy in Jolla to work with Python. If, at some point, I get in personal trouble with this guy, I hope he won't exclude me from any public event because of that, and especially using Jolla as a lever. Believe me, I already experienced a really tricky situation where I had to work with somebody I had huge personal problems with. And it never affected professional matters because we put a clear separation between the two. In this case, some personal matters seems to have lead to a public action: asking for the exclusion of somebody from a public event. From your answer, I understand that such a request was made and motivated by personal reasons. Again, I don't point any fingers, but this fact will just add up to the list of all doubts I already have regarding Jolla and what's happening in the community around. Best, Alexandre. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Discrimination and abuse from Jolla employee Thomas Perl
W dniu 21.05.2014 21:19, Tone Kastlunger pisze: What keeps you from mentioning the reasons to the conflict between you and THP? I think it would be embarrassing for both me and Thomas going into all the details and I don't know if it will help in any way to solve the problem pointed here - so discrimination on professional (non-personal) level. Regards, Filip ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Discrimination and abuse from Jolla employee Thomas Perl
Thank you for your reply, I'll take it as an honest one. So to me this sounds like it is worth making a mess about it, but only by telling part of the whole story. I do not belive this is completely fair to the audience (or the part of the audience who might be interested in this mailing list); without facts (which you cannot disclose due to cited private reasons) you are calling out for people to make a judgement based on a unilateral (i.e. yours) opinion. Yes, you cite reasoning of exclusion from Meta Hack event, and yes, you cite you being ignored intentionally on IRC, and I can take your side for these not being fair things, but these are all subsequent events, which have a reasoning originating from different conditions (the private matters), so, like it or not, consequences of *yours an THP's own actions*, which btw happened way before THP joined Jolla, so most likely very remotely related to Jolla, I dare to say not related to Jolla at all, pay attention, but - I repeat - *related to yours and THP's own actions*. This is, and remains therefore, a private issue, and does - in my opinion - have nothing to do with the fact THP is member of Jolla. Now, this cleared, I do believe nothing stands in your way to crucifix THP on a personal level, if you have reasons for this. But Jolla has nix nada to do with this, IMO. In including the company, you are hurting the company. Best good luck, tk On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Filip Kłębczyk fklebc...@gmail.comwrote: W dniu 21.05.2014 21:19, Tone Kastlunger pisze: What keeps you from mentioning the reasons to the conflict between you and THP? I think it would be embarrassing for both me and Thomas going into all the details and I don't know if it will help in any way to solve the problem pointed here - so discrimination on professional (non-personal) level. Regards, Filip ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscribe@lists. sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Preferred way to build rpm package depending on Python 3 on Sailfish ?
Hi, Answering my 1st question below : in Mer COBS (https://build.merproject.org/) we can use Branch package action to copy a package to our repository/project, so it can become a dependency for any package in our project. I did this to Python3, so my Python modules, python3-sympy : https://build.merproject.org/package/show?package=python3-sympyproject=home%3Arcolistete and python3-uncertainties : https://build.merproject.org/package/show?package=python3-uncertaintiesproject=home%3Arcolistete could build the rpm files. Regards, Roberto Em 06-05-2014 02:40, Roberto Colistete Jr. escreveu: Hi, I'd like to know your opinion about preferred way to build rpm package depending on Python 3 on Sailfish. For example, I have built IPython 2.0.0 : https://openrepos.net/content/rcolistete/ipython-sailfishos and SymPy 0.7.5 : https://openrepos.net/content/rcolistete/sympy-sailfishos packages, both are for Python 2.7 and built using Mer COBS (https://build.merproject.org/). How can I use Mer COBS to build packages depending on Python 3 ? Or would it be better to use Sailfish SDK to do so ? Best regards, Roberto ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
