Re: [SailfishDevel] GPLv3 warning
Hi Franck, This is related to package inclusion to Mer. Mer requires packages to be non (L)GPLv3 because of some issues with this license. Since the Mer build-engine uses spectacle, that is used for packaging Mer packages too, there is a warning here. However, as you are developing your own app, just ignore the warning. Regards, Lucien - Mail original - De: Franck Routier (perso) a...@mecadu.org À: devel@lists.sailfishos.org Envoyé: Mercredi 3 Décembre 2014 09:52:25 Objet: Re: [SailfishDevel] GPLv3 warning Hi, Le 03/12/2014 07:18, Kimmo Lindholm a écrit : Just for that your yaml says: License: GPLv3 Yes, that's intended. Why a warning ? What's the problem ? ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Wrap data in Item to get notifiable properties ?
Hi François,
The best way to do this is to use QML ListModel. Instead of loading the
properties in a JS object, you can load them as model properties (via
http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qml-qtqml-models-listmodel.html#set-method).
Accessing the properties would be done via model:
DetailItem {
label: qsTr(MyProp)
value: model.myProp
}
If you don't want to use a ListModel, prefer using QtObject instead of Item.
QtObject provides a non-graphical component to store properties, unlike Item
that implies having a box (x, y, width, height, anchors etc.)
Regards,
Lucien
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Envoyé: Mardi 2 Décembre 2014 10:31:46
Objet: [SailfishDevel] Wrap data in Item to get notifiable properties ?
Hi,
I'm writing a small app for SailfishOS in JS + QML (I don't know C++ so please
don't tell me to do this in C++).
I'm getting data from LocalStorage and hence get a Javascript Object with its
own properties. Let's call it myObj.
Then I bind some field in a view to these properties :
DetailItem {
label: qsTr(MyProp)
value: myObj.myProp
}
Now, if I update myObj.myProp, the value of the DetailItem doesn't get updated.
For what I understand, this is normal because the properties of my Javascript
Object (myObj) aren't notifiable and thus, QML doesn't know it has been updated.
To fix this, I wonder if it's OK to wrap my JS object into a QML Item. This
would give me notifiables properties and would certainly allow me to get
working bindings.
What do you think about this ? Is it OK ?
Thanks a lot for your help,
Best wishes,
--
François
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Refreshing pages
Hi Franck,
What do you experience with this flow. Isn't the cardname the same in
CardPage.qml and in your delegate ?
Regards,
Lucien
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De: Franck Routier (perso) a...@mecadu.org
À: devel@lists.sailfishos.org
Envoyé: Lundi 1 Décembre 2014 16:56:56
Objet: Re: [SailfishDevel] Refreshing pages
well, in fact the cardPage itself is pushed from the mainPage with:
delegate: Card {
id: myCard
backImageSource: ico
value: val
name: cardname
height: gridView.cellHeight-3
fullSize: false
onClicked: {
pageLoader.setSource(CardPage.qml,
{appSettings: settings,
backImageSource: myCard.backImageSource,
backname: myCard.name,
value:
myCard.value,
backsLibrary: backsLibrary
}
)
pageStack.push(pageLoader.item)
}
}
So here is the flow:
MainPage - CardPage - AboutBackPage
Le 01/12/2014 16:40, sfietkonstan...@free.fr a écrit :
Hi Franck
How do you push the cardPage ? How do you expect backname to change ?
Regards,
Lucien
PS: Sorry for top-posting (my webmail don't give me any other option :()
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À: devel@lists.sailfishos.org
Envoyé: Lundi 1 Décembre 2014 16:27:10
Objet: [SailfishDevel] Refreshing pages
Hi,
I have aproblem with a page that has a property I can't update.
I'm using this page in a PullDownMenu, as this:
Page {
id: cardPage
property string backname
property CardBacksLibrary backsLibrary
SilicaFlickable {
Loader {
id: pageLoader
}
PullDownMenu {
MenuItem {
text: qsTr(About this card back...)
onClicked: {
pageLoader.setSource(AboutBackPage.qml,
{backname: backname, backsLibrary: backsLibrary})
pageStack.push(pageLoader.item)
}
}
}
But once loaded, the backname property stays forever unchanged, while
I'd like to change it each time the cardPage is shown again.
I know I'm missing some fundamental point about pages / objects
lifecycle / etc, but any pointer would be welcome.
Thanks in advance,
Franck
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Re: [SailfishDevel] ListView vs Repeater
Hello Olah, I would not recommand using Repeater for long list views, as Repeater do not manage the items. As you have guessed, ListView destroys items that are out of the view, to save memory and have better performances. In your case, the best way is to animate the removal only if the item is visible. This can be achieved quite easily: 1. create a signal inside the ListView (like doRemoval(int index)), and give it an id 2. inside each delegate, connect this signal to a method to perform animation and removal. Don't forget if the index sent by doRemoval matches the index of the delegate. 3. Send the signal when an item have to be removed, passing the index. If this item is out of the displayed items, nothing will happen, but if it is inside, the item will be removed. Regards, Lucien - Mail original - De: Krisztian Olah fasza2mob...@gmail.com À: Sailfish OS Developers devel@lists.sailfishos.org Envoyé: Vendredi 10 Octobre 2014 17:00:42 Objet: [SailfishDevel] ListView vs Repeater Hi everyone, I need some help between choosing ListView or Repeater. I've got a SilicaListView whose elements I want to remove(only remove, never add) dynamically from GUI. When I have fairly a long list count(~25), reaching the element with ListView.contentItem.children[index] is not possible for the mid to end of the list, probably because ListView destroys items that are not visible. When that happens children[index] will not refer to the same element as model.index and therefore I cannot call remove() on the item. Using a Repeater would of course prevent this, but I don't think I can have a RemoveAnimation and I think I would have to reset the model. Is there another way that I didn't think of that would allow me to remove items from my model with animation and would allow me to have a list up to 1000 members(in real use it will probably be under 100) long? Thanks in advance Kris ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Pause application on system events
Hi Riccardo,
At the moment, you can use nemo-keepalive [1] to make your phone not to enter
in deep sleep, as well as controlling the screen state etc (you can even make
the phone's screen stay permanently on).
nemo-keepalive is not allowed in harbour, so you need to dynamically (rpath) or
statically link it. Depending on the license of your app, you might chose the
former or latter option.
As for incoming calls, I don't know how to handle this. Maybe it is handled
automatically with pulseaudio ?
Regards,
Lucien
[1] https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-keepalive
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À: devel@lists.sailfishos.org
Envoyé: Lundi 4 Août 2014 08:51:53
Objet: [SailfishDevel] Pause application on system events
Hi,
I'm writing a Metronome application just to get started with Sailfish.
I want the application to not to pause when the screens turns black or when it
is minimized but to pause on incoming calls or alarms ringing.
At the moment i'm using this:
onApplicationActiveChanged: {
if(!applicationActive)
metronome._running = false;
}
But i want to be less restrictive. can someone give me any hint on how to
acheive it?
Thanks.
--
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Elevating process privileges?
Hi Michal, Depending on what you want to do, there are several ways. Using sudo or su might be quite clumsy, especially su, where you need to have the user entering the root password. sudo can be used if you add in /etc/sudoers.d/ and install sudo, that requires mer-tools repo to be enabled IIRC. The best way to gain privileges is (in my opinion), to write a system daemon that will be invoked via DBus and runs as root. It do not mess with sudo etc, and works rather well for many cases. Example of code in https://github.com/sailfishos-patches/patchmanager/tree/master/src/daemon. Regards, Lucien - Mail original - De: Michał Radwański enedil.isil...@gmail.com À: devel@lists.sailfishos.org Envoyé: Jeudi 7 Août 2014 09:41:19 Objet: [SailfishDevel] Elevating process privileges? Hi all! Is Jolla user able to run processes that require root account? I mean something like 'nemo' is in `/etc/sudoers`. And if it is possible, how to gain privileges from C++? Is it like in Android, where I have to execute `su` command? Best regards, Michał Radwański a.k.a enedil ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Platform icons
Hi Kris, The fastest way would be open a terminal and cd /usr/share/themes/jolla-ambient/meegotouch/icons ls But I agree that an index in developers doc is welcomed. Regards, Lucien - Mail original - De: fasza2mob...@gmail.com À: Sailfish OS Developers devel@lists.sailfishos.org Envoyé: Lundi 4 Août 2014 15:21:58 Objet: [SailfishDevel] Platform icons Hi all, Is there a way to see a list/dictionary of platform icons, such as image://theme/icon-[s/m/l]-iconname; Preferebly with the corresponding pictures, but a path in the OS will do just fine. Ideally it could be available in the Sailfish reference under Theme object or something. Thanks in advance Kris ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
[SailfishDevel] [API] Ambience DBus API
Hello list, Following what has been decided during today's Sailfish OSS meeting, I would like to open a first discussion about internal API to be provided for developers to take advantages of all the capabilities of Sailfish OS. One of the specific capabilities of Sailfish OS is the ambience system. It's a profile system that is extended to changing the whole phone (currently wallpaper + sounds). Accessing this feature is currently done via a QML module (Sailfish.Ambience), that is only usable from privileged applications. It can also be accessed via an userspace daemon, *ambienced*, that provides a DBus API accessible through com.jolla.ambienced. This API is quite limited as it only allows setting an ambience from an image. I can understand that allowing the QML module to be used might cause problems, either with API breakage, or with security, since the Ambience db is privileged for a reason. In the other hand, the DBus API is safer: an API change will only trigger a runtime error, and the API can be made to only leak minimal data for the developer. That's why I'm asking to extend this API to allow developers to take advantage of Ambiences. I would like to discuss with you about the API the developers want to see for Ambience, and what sailors can provide. What I expect personally as a basis would be - Setting an ambience (already existing) - Getting the list of favourited ambiences (name + image path) Some more advanced API can be welcomed too - Getting a favourited ambience highlight colors - Favouriting / unfavouriting an ambience TJC post is here: https://together.jolla.com/question/51602/api-discussion-ambience-dbus-api/ It is a wiki and will be used to log the final APIs when a concensus has been reached, to have a basic documentation for devs, and a todolist for sailors. Feel free to elaborate on this topic, propose more APIs or detail those I proposed (the best would be to provide a DBus introspect XML file). You are also free to post a new thread on ML about other APIs you want to see from Jolla. Regards, Lucien PS: link for today's meeting minutes: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2014/mer-meeting.2014-07-22-10.03.html ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Is support for commercial apps a TABOO subject?
Hello, I nemo-qml-plugin-configuration is not used to manage settings inside the Settings app, you need actually to put some QML files in specific subfolders (/usr/share/jolla-settings/something) of the system. However, you are not allowed to install files here. I think that (for now), the settings should be defined inside your app. Cheers, Lucien PS: I think that the subject line is wrong. - Mail original - De: Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com À: Sailfish OS Developers devel@lists.sailfishos.org Envoyé: Jeudi 17 Juillet 2014 14:28:41 Objet: Re: [SailfishDevel] Is support for commercial apps a TABOO subject? When the Harbor becomes open for paid apps, will we be permitted to use nemo-qml-plugin-configuration? Should we then put the apps' settings into the Settings app or should they be handed inside the app? -- Marcin 2014-05-29 9:22 GMT+02:00 Giuliettasw users.giulie...@gmail.com : Another cool thing could be possibility to have beta testing on end users (as for example steam does for games). Von meinem iPad gesendet Am 29.5.2014 um 2.32 schrieb Artem Marchenko artem.marche...@gmail.com : Hi there In the mean time, you have time to get your apps ready, tested and polished. Also, let us know what additional APIs you need for your Harbour app so that by the time payments are available, your app is ready to sail. As for harbour-related APIs and functions, subscription-based and try-before-you-buy would have been very nice [for me at least] as IMHO they motivate developers for continuous app improvement. I'd love to have platform support for something like WhatsApp is doing: have free usage for a substantially long time (a month at least, maybe a year), and then something like $1 or even $0.1 per half a year. That would motivate for paying only for the actually useful apps (you tried app for a long time and still use it) and for continuing development (if app doesn't improve, user uninstalls and goes for another app). Sure, how to implement it technically without touching user privacy too much is a separate story (who will check whether user still has the app installed/running?). One option could be to encourage implementing this via in-app purchase of subscriptions (a'la iOS?) that could be verified completely on device without contacting the home base except for the act of purchase. Cheers, Artem. On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Karl Granström karl.granst...@jolla.com wrote: Ahoy!!! We see the payment support in store as a really important part of our developer offering. We are currently working to support payments in our Jolla Store and Harbour but there are a lot of things for us to do. Our current target is to provide you the monetizing possibility durign the 2nd half of 2014. In the mean time, you have time to get your apps ready, tested and polished. Also, let us know what additional APIs you need for your Harbour app so that by the time payments are available, your app is ready to sail. Br, Jolla Store team On 24 Apr 2014, at 14:34, Mohammed Hassan mohammed.has...@jollamobile.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 09:33:22AM +0200, tw_bolek wrote: [...] So my question is: is this some kind of taboo subject, or something of as little importance that for over 4 months now no Jollan has said A WORD about it despite numerous requests? A couple of my friends already gave up after waiting so long for even just any information, and I must say that I'm slowly losing hope, too. We all understand and are aware of the enormous job Jolla has been doing, so we're asking for just INFORMATION about the progress, even just if AT ALL there are any plans to do it in a foreseeable future, and if so then knowing even just as little as if it will take a month or half a year would be all we need... There will be support for commercial apps and those will have copy protection. This was mentioned bt Rainisto long ago already. I cannot give more info nor can I give an ETA for that though :/ Cheers, ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list -- Artem Marchenko http://agilesoftwaredevelopment.com http://twitter.com/AgileArtem ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to
Re: [SailfishDevel] How to properly hide and show UI elements?
Add an opacity change from 1 to 0 inside your animation ?
Or add a SequentialAnimation with a PropertyChanges to set visible at false at
end of animation. Don't forget to disable reversible property, and write the
reverse animation too.
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Envoyé: Vendredi 18 Juillet 2014 13:09:37
Objet: Re: [SailfishDevel] How to properly hide and show UI elements?
Visible = false is instant so it can't be animated. It won't look really nice
without animation
On 18.07.2014 12:42 Dmitriy Purgin wrote:
so you try to hide a component by setting its height = 0? have you
tried visible = false?
2014-07-18 16:30 GMT+06:00 Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com :
I'm want to display some elements only when needed. So I did it like this
(the components are inside a Column):
TextSwitch
{
id: switchTextColor
text: qsTr(Override text color)
checked: settings.overrideTextColor
states: State
{
name: checked; when: switchTextColor.checked == true;
PropertyChanges { target: textColorButton; height:
Theme.itemSizeSmall}
}
transitions: Transition
{
from: *; to: checked; reversible: true
NumberAnimation { property: height; duration: 200;
easing.type: Easing.InOutQuad }
}
}
ColorButton
{
id: textColorButton
height: 0
}
And the ColorButton component is:
Row
{
id: root
property string color: transparent
width: parent.width
Rectangle
{
id: colorIndicator
color: root.color
width: Theme.itemSizeSmall
height: Theme.itemSizeSmall
border.color: black
border.width: 5
}
Button
{
id: button
text: Choose a color
onClicked:
{
var dialog = pageStack.push(Sailfish.Silica.ColorPickerDialog)
dialog.accepted.connect(function() { root.color = dialog.color
})
}
}
}
Instead of hiding, the textColorButton is at the top of the Page. If I check
switchTextColor, then it goes where it should be. If then I uncheck the
Switch, the component below goes up, but the textColorButton doesn't
disappear (screenshot)?
What am I doing wrong?
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On 18.07.2014 12:42 Dmitriy Purgin wrote:
so you try to hide a component by setting its height = 0? have you
tried visible = false?
2014-07-18 16:30 GMT+06:00 Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com :
I'm want to display some elements only when needed. So I did it like this
(the components are inside a Column):
TextSwitch
{
id: switchTextColor
text: qsTr(Override text color)
checked: settings.overrideTextColor
states: State
{
name: checked; when: switchTextColor.checked == true;
PropertyChanges { target: textColorButton; height:
Theme.itemSizeSmall}
}
transitions: Transition
{
from: *; to: checked; reversible: true
NumberAnimation { property: height; duration: 200;
easing.type: Easing.InOutQuad }
}
}
ColorButton
{
id: textColorButton
height: 0
}
And the ColorButton component is:
Row
{
id: root
property string color: transparent
width: parent.width
Rectangle
{
id: colorIndicator
color: root.color
width: Theme.itemSizeSmall
height: Theme.itemSizeSmall
border.color: black
border.width: 5
}
Button
{
id: button
text: Choose a color
onClicked:
{
var dialog = pageStack.push(Sailfish.Silica.ColorPickerDialog)
dialog.accepted.connect(function() { root.color = dialog.color
})
}
}
}
Instead of hiding, the textColorButton is at the top of the Page. If I check
switchTextColor, then it goes where it should be. If then I uncheck the
Switch, the component below goes up, but the textColorButton doesn't
disappear (screenshot)?
What am I doing wrong?
--
Marcin
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Error building buteo caldav plugin
Hi ! I see that you are trying to build this plugin with the SDK, but some packages (most ?) from NemoMobile are made to be buildable on OBS but not on SDK directly. You need to patch the spec file to have it buildable. Actually, the best way is even to write a yaml file (taking inspiration from the spec), and let the SDK generate a spec for you. Cheers, Lucien - Mail original - De: Simon Brown li...@700c.org À: devel@lists.sailfishos.org Envoyé: Mardi 15 Juillet 2014 15:30:52 Objet: [SailfishDevel] Error building buteo caldav plugin Hi, I'm trying to build the buteo caldav sync plugin and the ide is just giving me the qmake help message. The source is here: https://github.com/nemomobile/buteo-sync-plugin-caldav and the last few lines of the build log before the qmake help are: Building target platforms: armv7hl-meego-linux Building for target armv7hl-meego-linux Executing(%build): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.DS53HQ Usage: /usr/lib/qt5/bin/qmake [mode] [options] [files] It looks like a problem with my sdk setup, any ideas? Simon P.S. as a system package I'm assuming it should build and the problem is with my setup. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Pagestack problems
Hello, looking a bit at your code, you are using a pagestack.push, meaning that you effectively adds another page to your pagestack. For adding a new beer, I think that the best would be using a Dialog component. - Mail original - De: Chris Walker cdw_noki...@the-walker-household.co.uk À: devel@lists.sailfishos.org Envoyé: Jeudi 10 Juillet 2014 15:53:10 Objet: Re: [SailfishDevel] Pagestack problems On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 19:45:28 +0600 Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com wrote: you do not need to reload page, so there wouldn't any navigation problems at all :) I'm afraid you have me thoroughly confused now. Can you do me a favour and take a look at my code and let me know where I'm going wrong and what I should be doing? It's here - https://github.com/tonercloud/beertent/tree/master/beertent The only change I've made since I uploaded that is to add #include QQmlContext to beertent.cpp Ta. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Why this error now?
A wild guess:
When debugging, you have QML debug enabled, that causes including of QtQuick,
that itself includes the QQmlContext header ?
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À: devel@lists.sailfishos.org
Envoyé: Mardi 8 Juillet 2014 14:13:01
Objet: [SailfishDevel] Why this error now?
I'm trying to deploy my app to my phone and on the emulator it works -
in debug mode. But as soon as I switch to release mode, it keels over.
Here's the cpp code where it fails :-
#ifdef QT_QML_DEBUG
#include QtQuick
#endif
#include QGuiApplication
#include QQuickView
#include sailfishapp.h
#include DatabaseManager.h
Q_DECL_EXPORT int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
QScopedPointerQGuiApplication app(SailfishApp::application(argc,
argv)); QScopedPointerQQuickView view(SailfishApp::createView());
DatabaseManager* db = new DatabaseManager();
db-open();
view-rootContext()-setContextProperty(db, db);
view-setSource(SailfishApp::pathTo(qml/beertent.qml));
view-show();
return app-exec();
}
The error is invalid use of incomplete type 'struct QQmlContext'
I can easily fix it by adding #include QQmlContext and it all then
works as expected but my query is this. Why does it work in debug mode
with no errors but fails in release mode?
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Re: [SailfishDevel] my letter on switching sides [non-technical]
Thank you a lot for work done in SDK ! And good luck for the future :) - Mail original - De: Jarko Vihriala jarko.vihri...@jolla.com À: Sailfish OS Developers devel@lists.sailfishos.org Envoyé: Mercredi 11 Juin 2014 20:25:50 Objet: [SailfishDevel] my letter on switching sides [non-technical] Hello there! This is my announcement to Sailfish developer community that I'm switching sides. That's right, after next week I will be present in the community only as private person with no direct connection to Jolla Oy. If you did not read between the lines - I have resigned from my post as chief SDK Engineer in Jolla and my last working day is tomorrow, 12.6.2014. I recently got a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity at somewhere else and just could not resist to take it on, you'll find out about it soon enough. Making the decision to leave Jolla was not easy. What now? Actually the SDK team has received new members and they are already working on to get the next release out, so there should not be any stalling of the engine. The harbour ranks stay intact also, so the biggest difference is that you'll see someone else posting SDK announcement mails after this week is over. Traditional support channels (#sailfishos irc, devel mailing list and TJC) keep running just like before. I would like to thank you all in the community so far for such unforgettable journey. We have shown the world together what it means to be part of this tribe. Yes, there have been ups and downs but overall the atmosphere has been and is great. So there, I hate long goodbyes (like I told my colleagues yesterday) so - let's keep on rowing and keep those apps hitting the Jolla Store! with love, Jarko (jake9xx) ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla release plan for high-level features - update 8
In a slightly more technical level, can we expect Qt 5.2 to land, or is this migration still uncertain ? (Sorry for top post, web client etc.) - Mail original - De: Soumya Bijjal soumya.bij...@jollamobile.com À: devel@lists.sailfishos.org Envoyé: Mercredi 11 Juin 2014 19:10:00 Objet: [SailfishDevel] Jolla release plan for high-level features - update 8 Hi all, We will release another update (update8) in July before we take a break. ETA for the following update is end of August/beginning of September. Here is a quick summary of what we have planned for update8: * Ability to set synchronization schedule for different accounts separately https://together.jolla.com/question/662/enable-setting-of-account-specific-synchronization-schedule/ * Support filtering file selection by file type and uploading multiple files in Browser * Ability to define email signature per account https://together.jolla.com/question/11853/email-signature-per-email-account/ * Ability to define sender name per account https://together.jolla.com/question/565/a-way-to-specify-senders-name-and-e-mail-in-google-and-imap-account/ * Save unsent messages as drafts when messages app is pushed to background https://together.jolla.com/question/1224/bug-message-draft-is-deleted-when-moving-between-conversations/ * Add shortcuts to webpages in the launcher area https://together.jolla.com/question/21678/bookmark-as-launcher/ * Stroke entry for writing in Chinese * Improved HTML email viewer * Improved tutorial app for beginners * Display each Android app in its own window in the home screen https://together.jolla.com/question/322/android-applications-should-not-be-grouped-in-the-same-window/ * Search word auto-completion in the Store client * Enhanced layout for Google and generic mail accounts settings Changes to resource policy implementation in QtMultimedia - With update8, 1. QSoundEffect will behave nicely with resource manager and doesn't need user to do the resource policy integration themselves. Earlier, a bug in policy enforcement has allowed QSoundEffect to function even without acquiring resources. 2. QAudioOutput will have internal resource policy implementation. This will conflict with possible external resource policy implementation. 3. Resource-enabled objects residing in same binary will share the resource connection, thus allowing multiple objects to play along correctly. Previously multiple resource-enabled objects would conflict with themselves (a shortcoming of resource manager implementation). There will be an additional mail outlining the changes in more detail. Changes to RPM side-loading and packagekit authorization With update8, 1. “pkcon” will only work as privileged and root users (privileged = setgid privileged nemo aka “devel-su --privileged”) 2. “sdk-deploy-rpm” will be available in developer mode, and can be used to install single RPMs (right now, this does not have any confirmations, but we will add it later, so that the user knows when packages are installed, and not silently installed in the background) So if you had e.g. “pkcon install-local -y” kind of commands in your “deploy from sdk to device” scripts, you have to change that to “sdk-deploy-rpm”. If you are using the SDK (Qt Creator), it will continue working as before (the SDK has been updated to make use of the new command). 3. Third party apps should just open the RPM file with xdg-open/QDesktopServices::openUrl()/Qt.openUrlExternally(), which will give the RPM to store-client and it shows a nice GUI for installing the RPM (only when sideloading is enabled; this also works without developer mode being enabled, therefore can be used by apps submitted to Harbour too) 4. If for some reason your app really requires access to the full PackageKit API, you can use the normal polkit (http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/polkit/) mechanisms to allow your app to access PackageKit (this might require installing additional polkit config files alongside your application - this doesn't work for Harbour apps, but will work for apps distributed through other means) So if you had e.g. “pkcon install-local -y” kind of commands in your “deploy from sdk to device” scripts, you have to change that to “sdk-deploy-rpm”. If you are using the SDK (Qt Creator), it will continue working as before (the SDK has been updated to make use of the new command). Regards, Soumya Disclaimer: This is an intent of the release content and not a promise. We will do our best to keep you informed on the changes since the planning. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to
Re: [SailfishDevel] Recover WLAN password
Hi Alex, Try /var/lib/connman (and the subfolders). Cheers, Lucien - Mail original - De: Goulagman goulag...@gmail.com À: Sailfish OS Developers devel@lists.sailfishos.org Envoyé: Vendredi 6 Juin 2014 17:44:38 Objet: [SailfishDevel] Recover WLAN password Hi, I'm working on an information retrieval / backup app and, despite all my efforts, I can't find where the WLAN keys are stored. I thought that they would be available through gconftool but I can't see them. Any hint? Thanks! Alex. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] was Acceptable Behaviour.. -- Forum
+1 TMO is often the forum of choice for many developers (me included), to communicate with users. TJC could have taken this role, but the flat hiearchy, and the focus on QA, it don't fit that much for a discussion (especially between users and devs). - Mail original - De: Ruediger Gad r@gmx.de À: Sailfish OS Developers devel@lists.sailfishos.org Envoyé: Lundi 26 Mai 2014 10:16:34 Objet: Re: [SailfishDevel] was Acceptable Behaviour.. -- Forum On 05/26/2014 09:50 AM, Stefano Mosconi wrote: ... Should we invest our time into making a better together.jolla.com rather than a different platform (this is not rhetorical)? Thanks for you answer, both Norbert and you. :) Indeed, the time overhead to manage multiple platforms as well as the points Nobert mentioned are important aspects and to be honest I have no clue about weighting the real trade-offs. With respect to the question what a forum has that the other platforms don't have: In a forum, e.g., I feel that I somehow get better contact to users of my apps. See, e.g., the SkippingStones work-in-progress thread as example: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92695 I also enjoy to read some rather off-topic discussions like Look what I drew on my phone once in a while (which I wouldn't like ending up in my e-mail inbox btw.). There were also other aspects that got mentioned throughout this discussion that I found important. Unfortunately, I am pretty much on the run at the moment so I cannot repeat everything in detail. Generally, I got quite accustomed to using a forum. But then this is all about personal habits that one got used to. Right now, I am primarily using the Sailfish OS etc. sections at talk.maemo.org as semi-official Sailfish OS/Jolla forum replacement. So, in a sense, there is already something like a forum. Maybe this is a viable approach that can be used in the meantime? BR Ruediger Stefano ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org -- http://ruedigergad.com ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] was Acceptable Behaviour.. -- Forum
I went active on TMO while developing for SFOS. It's not even a habit but more about easiness to use. Forum have a clear hiearchy (better than TJC), and a thread system (like in ML). It's focused on discussion (unlike TJC), and provides some useful tools (edit, formatting, thanks button; better than a ML). IMO it's the perfect mix for engaging discussions inside the users community, and between devs and users. It might not work well to provide feedback to Jolla (TJC might do this better), and is less efficient than ML for devs to devs discussions. So I appreciate to have the 3 tools available, and would love to see Jolla cooperate with TMO as a forum of choice for discussions. - Mail original - De: Denis Zalevskiy denis.zalevs...@jollamobile.com À: devel@lists.sailfishos.org Envoyé: Lundi 26 Mai 2014 10:55:10 Objet: Re: [SailfishDevel] was Acceptable Behaviour.. -- Forum On Monday 26 May 2014 10:49:51 sfietkonstan...@free.fr wrote: +1 TMO is often the forum of choice for many developers (me included), to maybe because you are using TMO for a long time and have a habbit to use it ? Also because many people who develop and developed for mobile linux also has the same habbit :) So, it is easier to find 'em there. - denis communicate with users. TJC could have taken this role, but the flat hiearchy, and the focus on QA, it don't fit that much for a discussion (especially between users and devs). - Mail original - De: Ruediger Gad r@gmx.de À: Sailfish OS Developers devel@lists.sailfishos.org Envoyé: Lundi 26 Mai 2014 10:16:34 Objet: Re: [SailfishDevel] was Acceptable Behaviour.. -- Forum On 05/26/2014 09:50 AM, Stefano Mosconi wrote: ... Should we invest our time into making a better together.jolla.com rather than a different platform (this is not rhetorical)? Thanks for you answer, both Norbert and you. :) Indeed, the time overhead to manage multiple platforms as well as the points Nobert mentioned are important aspects and to be honest I have no clue about weighting the real trade-offs. With respect to the question what a forum has that the other platforms don't have: In a forum, e.g., I feel that I somehow get better contact to users of my apps. See, e.g., the SkippingStones work-in-progress thread as example: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92695 I also enjoy to read some rather off-topic discussions like Look what I drew on my phone once in a while (which I wouldn't like ending up in my e-mail inbox btw.). There were also other aspects that got mentioned throughout this discussion that I found important. Unfortunately, I am pretty much on the run at the moment so I cannot repeat everything in detail. Generally, I got quite accustomed to using a forum. But then this is all about personal habits that one got used to. Right now, I am primarily using the Sailfish OS etc. sections at talk.maemo.org as semi-official Sailfish OS/Jolla forum replacement. So, in a sense, there is already something like a forum. Maybe this is a viable approach that can be used in the meantime? BR Ruediger Stefano ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] was Acceptable Behaviour.. -- Forum
Thanks for the lengthy discussion. Don't forget that the topic will also be discussed tomorrow during the weekly sailfish OS meeting (http://piratepad.net/SailfishOSSMeetings) Please come and discuss on actions to be taken :) Cheers, Lucien - Mail original - De: Thomas Tanghus tho...@tanghus.net À: Sailfish OS Developers devel@lists.sailfishos.org Envoyé: Lundi 26 Mai 2014 17:59:07 Objet: Re: [SailfishDevel] was Acceptable Behaviour.. -- Forum On Monday 26 May 2014 10:18 Luca Donaggio wrote: +1 for keeping this ML and (eventually) improving TJC. Personally, TJC currently suffers of one big drawback, which is not even technical: it is perceived more as a generic issue-reporting / feature-requesting tool than anything else. Developer related questions have always been reported on this ML first, and later on TJC mainly when it resulted in a bug of some sort. I'm not against forums, I just can't afford following another on-line source, two is more than enough for my (limited I must admit) spare time :-) Also a +1 from me. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Tanghus ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Screenshots in silica reference
+2 it could be very welcomed. And it could be nice to discuss Silica API docs for next SFOS meeting, what do you think ? Will add it in the agenda. - Mail original - De: Gabriel Böhme m.gabrielboe...@googlemail.com À: Sailfish OS Developers devel@lists.sailfishos.org, Andrea Bernabei and.berna...@gmail.com Envoyé: Vendredi 23 Mai 2014 10:37:36 Objet: Re: [SailfishDevel] Screenshots in silica reference +1 -- Von meinem Nokia N9 gesendet Andrea Bernabei schrieb am 23.05.14 10:33: I agree, that'd be very convenient :) 2014-05-23 7:21 GMT+02:00 Kimmo Lindholm kimmo.lindh...@eke.fi : Hi, I so would like to see screenshots in silica reference. Like there is on common pitfails -page. -kimmo -- Lähetetty Jollastani ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Screenshots in silica reference
No, just ask Jolla to put some screenshots inside the documentation, to show components in action. - Mail original - De: Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com À: devel@lists.sailfishos.org Envoyé: Vendredi 23 Mai 2014 11:13:30 Objet: Re: [SailfishDevel] Screenshots in silica reference like this? https://together.jolla.com/question/39930/howto-take-a-screenshot-from-the-command-line/ 23.05.2014 15:11, Luca Donaggio пишет: +1 for the screenshots On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 7:21 AM, Kimmo Lindholm kimmo.lindh...@eke.fi wrote: Hi, I so would like to see screenshots in silica reference. Like there is on common pitfails -page. -kimmo -- Lähetetty Jollastani ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org -- Luca Donaggio ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] qt5 ?
- Mail original - De: mikete...@gmail.com À: devel@lists.sailfishos.org Envoyé: Vendredi 23 Mai 2014 15:29:34 Objet: [SailfishDevel] qt5 ? Hi sorry if missed this previously on some announcement or mailing list, are there any plans / ETA to move the sailfishos SDK to qt version 5 ? Hello ! Trying to not post with webmail client (not sure of the result) The SDK uses Qt 4 to display Qt Creator, however you are already using Qt 5 to develop. Indeed SailfishOS is based on Qt 5. So technically, SailfishOS SDK is already on Qt 5. Also, do you know if QML on qt 5 is much different from the current one ? Developing with QtQuick in Qt 5 should be quite close to Qt 4. However, you won't be able to develop apps like on Symbian or the N9. The API used on SailfishOS for their UI components is called Silica, and you have the documentation here: https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/ btw I love the phone and I love to develop on it, QML is very relaxing! I have a neo, my primary phone is an n900 from years, had a firefox os (cheap htc) but is currently, sadly, very flawled by hardware and software problems and the jolla, I think, is the natural evolution of the neo and the n900. I loved it from the first moment, I'm very impressed by it, everything worked out of the box, which for a techie power user is not to be taken for granted. Also, the battery duration is from another planet, I don't know how you did it :) True that I don't use it with a sim card but it lasts ages! Btw number 2, sorry .. what about lte support ? :) LTE support is coming with the next update, as stated in this mailing list already: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2014-May/004253.html I work with phones, as many of you I had dozens, from the first StarTac ones :) The Jolla phone and Sailfish OS beats, destroys, pulverizes, hands down, everything else I've used and I use now. The usability (gestures) is genius, very quick and natural, and still power user. And it is OPEN .. so fresh and inspiring!! Thanks and have a nice day, pls stop the drama! Have a nice day ! Mike ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Next meeting on SailfishOS, open source, collaboration: 13-May @ 10:00 UTC
When will the next meeting be ? - Mail original - De: Carsten Munk carsten.m...@jolla.com À: Sailfish OS Developers devel@lists.sailfishos.org Envoyé: Lundi 12 Mai 2014 12:32:26 Objet: [SailfishDevel] Next meeting on SailfishOS, open source, collaboration: 13-May @ 10:00 UTC Hi, Sorry for taking so long with this. I've had a child baptisement this weekend so that ended up taking more AFK time than I had hoped for. Thanks to everyone who've responded on http://piratepad.net/SailfishOSSMeeting-20140429 Date: 13 May 2014 Time: 10:00 UTC, for your local time: http://bit.ly/1lsqhlA Duration 90 minutes Chair: Carsten Munk, Chief Research Engineer @ Jolla Location: #mer-meeting on Freenode IRC Those without an IRC client can access it here: http://webchat.freenode.net?channels=mer-meeting This is more of a discussion session this time around. Agenda: * Introductions (5 min) * Chum Sync (Basil/lbt/tbr) * More closed source discussion (Carsten) - how can the community help * Accepting graphical contributions by community BR Carsten Munk Chief Research Engineer @ Jolla ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla release plan for high-level features - update 6 / 7
(Sorry for top-posting, webmail) Thanks Somya for this summary ! I would also love to know if some developers would comment about the open-source components to be impacted. Folders support work seems to be started, since several pull requests have been done on lipstick library, but how about the other work that might be done ? Anyone from Jolla can give us some hint ? Regards, Lucien - Mail original - De: Soumya Bijjal soumya.bij...@jollamobile.com À: devel@lists.sailfishos.org Envoyé: Jeudi 15 Mai 2014 16:50:04 Objet: [SailfishDevel] Jolla release plan for high-level features - update 6 / 7 Hi all, As agreed in the community meeting on May 7, we will start sharing a high level software release content plan after each iteration planning day at Jolla. Based on the feedback received, we can re-visit the agreement later and discuss how to make things better for all of us. This reflects the current status. We are having a iteration planning session soon where we hope to add more technical details on where we intend to focus our efforts in software development. We are currently mid way through iteration 4, in the implementation phase for update7. In the meantime, we are finalising update 6 and here is a glimpse of what to expect with this release: * 4G support for users in Finland, Hong Kong and Estonia https://together.jolla.com/question/2135/enable-4g-lte/ * New events view sub-page for displaying Facebook notifications https://together.jolla.com/question/590/show-facebook-feed-in-notifications-instead-of-opening-a-browser/ * File picker and real tabs support in browser https://together.jolla.com/question/321/file-picker-needed/ https://together.jolla.com/question/373/tab-reloading-browser-settings/ * Personalise shortcuts on lockscreen pull-down menu https://together.jolla.com/question/564/personalization-of-the-pulley-menu-in-lock-screen/ * Support for additional Bluetooth profiles: PBAP and HID https://together.jolla.com/question/274/pbap-bluetooth-profile-support-is-requested/ https://together.jolla.com/question/1308/bluetooth-keyboard-support/ * Support for traditional and simplified Chinese Handwriting Recognition in virtual keyboard https://together.jolla.com/question/1504/provide-simplifiedtraditional-chinese-handwriting-input-method/ * Quick access to Sailfish OS updates in Settings For the next update (update 7), we have planned the following new additions: * LTE enabled for everyone https://together.jolla.com/question/2135/enable-4g-lte/ * Folder support in app launcher area https://together.jolla.com/question/291/folder-support-in-app-launcher/ * Google contacts 2-way sync https://together.jolla.com/question/9444/bug-contacts-people-app-does-only-add-to-local-contacts-database/ * Save unsent messages as drafts when messages app is pushed to background https://together.jolla.com/question/1224/bug-message-draft-is-deleted-when-moving-between-conversations/ * Option to clear browser history only https://together.jolla.com/question/8233/browser-how-to-clear-the-browsing-history/ * Clean cookies from browser * Do not track option under Browser settings * Enable quick scrolling feature in Sailfish views https://together.jolla.com/question/1154/no-way-to-quickly-navigate-through-a-long-list/ Disclaimer: As discussed during the meeting, this is an intent of the release content and not a promise. We will do our best to keep you informed on the changes since the planning. Regards, Soumya ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
