Re: State of radeon driver
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 01:44:23PM +0100, Alexander Stohr wrote: > > I have tried these drivers but refuse to work. > > They think I have an (unsupported) OEM card (=powered by ATI) > > while according to the identity check programs > > run under XP it 'should' be an ATI one (=Built by ATI) > > There is no general OEM barrier anymore. > It only was it was in early days where no one was sure > if drivers would work well on those boards. > > It would be kind if you can you retry this test > with latest fglrx drivers and mail me the results > in private or public, just as you want. Any chance for getting a powerpc build of them, for the nice new powerbooks with mobility 9600 graphic card in it ? Friendly, Sven Luther ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: State of radeon driver
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:16:01 +0100, wim delvaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Thursday 11 December 2003 00:48, Gerhard W. Gruber wrote: >> On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 00:39:57 +0100, wim delvaux >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >The closed source drivers on the ATI website >> >> I tried them, but no success. But I think the problem is with KDE/OpenGL >> because I managed to get at least the Desktop with Mesa working. Only when >> I try to activate the ATI provided OpenGL lib I can't start X/KDE anymore. > >I tried it too and also had no success. What version did you use ? I was using the ATI drivers 3.2.8. Then I tried the ones from Suse 9.0 also 3.2.8. And I also tried the 3.2.7 download but I didn't know how to install that because this was an RPM only and I found no makefiles within. When I tried to load the module it said that my kernel is compile dwith gcc2 and the module with gcc3 wich doesn't work. I found a thread on linuxquestions which was quite good. At least it got me going so far that X now uses the fglrx driver, but I still have the problem that I can't use KDE with the 3D accelerated OpenGL. When I link against Mesa everything works, but of course I have about 350 FPS on glxgears. When I trie to use the provided OpenGL lib I get this errormessage when starting X: DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-3627' to 'kded' ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-3630' to 'knotify' ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! startkde: Shutting down... KLauncher: Exiting on signal 1 startkde: Running shutdown scripts... I don't think that the Radon 9800XT is so much different than the Radeon 9800Pro so the drivers should work. But I think the problem is maybe with KDE. Most of the users I found, which reported success were using Suse 9.0 so it could be that they have an updated KDE. I also tried the libGL.so from one of these users, but that gave me the same errormessage. Of course it could be that I would have needed to copy other lib*so files as well, but I don't think so. On the other hand I can run fvwm2 which works fine, but when I try to run glxgears it breaks also, so this points to the OpenGL stuff. I don't know what else I could try. Currently I install gentoo on my laptop and then I will see. I have a Radeon 900 Mobility in that, but I forgot to check how 3D works there. I plan to install gentoo on my main machine as well, but this will take quite some time until everything works. In the meantime I would be more than happy if somebody could point out what could be wrong. -- Gerhard Gruber Maintainer of SoftICE for Linux - http://sourceforge.net/projects/pice Fast application launcher - http://sourceforge.net/projects/launchmenu ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: State of radeon driver
On Thursday 11 December 2003 00:48, Gerhard W. Gruber wrote: > On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 00:39:57 +0100, wim delvaux > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >The closed source drivers on the ATI website > > I tried them, but no success. But I think the problem is with KDE/OpenGL > because I managed to get at least the Desktop with Mesa working. Only when > I try to activate the ATI provided OpenGL lib I can't start X/KDE anymore. I tried it too and also had no success. What version did you use ? W ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: State of radeon driver
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 00:39:57 +0100, wim delvaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The closed source drivers on the ATI website I tried them, but no success. But I think the problem is with KDE/OpenGL because I managed to get at least the Desktop with Mesa working. Only when I try to activate the ATI provided OpenGL lib I can't start X/KDE anymore. -- Gerhard Gruber Maintainer of SoftICE for Linux - http://sourceforge.net/projects/pice Fast application launcher - http://sourceforge.net/projects/launchmenu ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: State of radeon driver
On Wednesday 10 December 2003 22:47, Gerhard W. Gruber wrote: > On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:47:27 +0100, wim delvaux > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I haven't seen this posting. ??? > > >> There is no general OEM barrier anymore. > >> It only was it was in early days where no one was sure > >> if drivers would work well on those boards. > >> > >> It would be kind if you can you retry this test > >> with latest fglrx drivers and mail me the results > >> in private or public, just as you want. > > > > Sure with pleasure ... where can I download the 'lastest' drivers ? > > Which drivers are we talking about here? I have also the problem that I > can't get my 3D acceleration not to work with an ASUS 9800XT, but I have > XFree86 4.3.0. The closed source drivers on the ATI website ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: State of radeon driver
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:47:27 +0100, wim delvaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I haven't seen this posting. ??? >> There is no general OEM barrier anymore. >> It only was it was in early days where no one was sure >> if drivers would work well on those boards. >> >> It would be kind if you can you retry this test >> with latest fglrx drivers and mail me the results >> in private or public, just as you want. > > Sure with pleasure ... where can I download the 'lastest' drivers ? Which drivers are we talking about here? I have also the problem that I can't get my 3D acceleration not to work with an ASUS 9800XT, but I have XFree86 4.3.0. -- Gerhard Gruber Maintainer of SoftICE for Linux - http://sourceforge.net/projects/pice Fast application launcher - http://sourceforge.net/projects/launchmenu ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: State of radeon driver
On Wednesday 10 December 2003 13:44, Alexander Stohr wrote: > > I have tried these drivers but refuse to work. > > They think I have an (unsupported) OEM card (=powered by ATI) > > while according to the identity check programs > > run under XP it 'should' be an ATI one (=Built by ATI) > > There is no general OEM barrier anymore. > It only was it was in early days where no one was sure > if drivers would work well on those boards. > > It would be kind if you can you retry this test > with latest fglrx drivers and mail me the results > in private or public, just as you want. Sure with pleasure ... where can I download the 'lastest' drivers ? W > > -Alex. > ___ > Devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: State of radeon driver
On Wed, 2003-12-10 at 12:26, wim delvaux wrote: > On Wednesday 10 December 2003 13:09, Alexander Stohr wrote: > > the _ is the mailmain default but can be canged. > > > > only the fglrx closed source drivers from ATI > > for the i386/Linux platform do have 3D. > > > > Data"books" are no longer state of the art > > in the information technologies age. > > I have tried these drivers but refuse to work. > They think I have an (unsupported) OEM card (=powered by ATI) > while according to the identity check programs > run under XP it 'should' be an ATI one (=Built by ATI) > > (phoned to medion - who makes the card - and they claimed > that ATI built the card for them ???) > > Any idea when the data-e-book will be available ;-) Well, probably not until a certain place in norway freezes over.. -- Torgeir Veimo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
RE: State of radeon driver
> I have tried these drivers but refuse to work. > They think I have an (unsupported) OEM card (=powered by ATI) > while according to the identity check programs > run under XP it 'should' be an ATI one (=Built by ATI) There is no general OEM barrier anymore. It only was it was in early days where no one was sure if drivers would work well on those boards. It would be kind if you can you retry this test with latest fglrx drivers and mail me the results in private or public, just as you want. -Alex. ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: State of radeon driver
On Wednesday 10 December 2003 13:09, Alexander Stohr wrote: > the _ is the mailmain default but can be canged. > > only the fglrx closed source drivers from ATI > for the i386/Linux platform do have 3D. > > Data"books" are no longer state of the art > in the information technologies age. I have tried these drivers but refuse to work. They think I have an (unsupported) OEM card (=powered by ATI) while according to the identity check programs run under XP it 'should' be an ATI one (=Built by ATI) (phoned to medion - who makes the card - and they claimed that ATI built the card for them ???) Any idea when the data-e-book will be available ;-) W > > > > On Wednesday 10 December 2003 12:48, wim delvaux wrote: > > > > Any idea whether what support 4.4.0 will have from the > > > > Radeo 9600 Pro ? > > > > > And now in English ;-( > > > > > > Any idea what support 4.4.0 will have for the Radeo 9600 Pro ? > > > > ATI haven't released any databooks about newer GPUs like R300 > > & R350, so > > there's currently no 3D acceleration for these cards (9600, 9800 etc) > > yet. > > > > To the administrator; could the separator above the "Devel > > mailing list" > > be changed to be only "-- ", so that quoting when replying > > automatically > > removes that signature, when using compliant mailers. > > ___ > Devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
RE: State of radeon driver
the _ is the mailmain default but can be canged. only the fglrx closed source drivers from ATI for the i386/Linux platform do have 3D. Data"books" are no longer state of the art in the information technologies age. > > On Wednesday 10 December 2003 12:48, wim delvaux wrote: > > > Any idea whether what support 4.4.0 will have from the > Radeo 9600 Pro ? > > > > And now in English ;-( > > > > Any idea what support 4.4.0 will have for the Radeo 9600 Pro ? > > ATI haven't released any databooks about newer GPUs like R300 > & R350, so > there's currently no 3D acceleration for these cards (9600, 9800 etc) > yet. > > To the administrator; could the separator above the "Devel > mailing list" > be changed to be only "-- ", so that quoting when replying > automatically > removes that signature, when using compliant mailers. ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: State of radeon driver
On Wed, 2003-12-10 at 11:55, wim delvaux wrote: > On Wednesday 10 December 2003 12:48, wim delvaux wrote: > > Any idea whether what support 4.4.0 will have from the Radeo 9600 Pro ? > > And now in English ;-( > > Any idea what support 4.4.0 will have for the Radeo 9600 Pro ? ATI haven't released any databooks about newer GPUs like R300 & R350, so there's currently no 3D acceleration for these cards (9600, 9800 etc) yet. To the administrator; could the separator above the "Devel mailing list" be changed to be only "-- ", so that quoting when replying automatically removes that signature, when using compliant mailers. > > ___ > > Devel mailing list -- Torgeir Veimo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: State of radeon driver
On Wednesday 10 December 2003 12:48, wim delvaux wrote: > Any idea whether what support 4.4.0 will have from the Radeo 9600 Pro ? And now in English ;-( Any idea what support 4.4.0 will have for the Radeo 9600 Pro ? > > ___ > Devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: State of radeon driver
Any idea whether what support 4.4.0 will have from the Radeo 9600 Pro ? ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
RE: State of radeon driver
you do want to report, 2D is okay, but there are performance issues and some glitches in 3D? if yes, then this roughly matches what is expected state of the art. 2D is solid and maintained by XF86 whilst 3D is hardening in DRI project for almost some time and the last merge back into XF86 CVS should have happened some 2 months ago. two things will happen: xf86 4.4.0 will get releases in some near time frame (week to months), and development on drivers will continue for 2D and 3D. bug reports on showstoppers for the next XF86 release are greatly welcomed and bug reports for less ciritical flaws will be helpfull for any future release after the "hot" X4.4.0 release. i suppose that DRI people will make efforts to provide fixups for pending issues and then provide a) drivers for latest XF86 snapshot and b) for latest XF86 release (X4.4.0) to satisfy users. case b) might migrate to the hands of Linux distribution vendors over time. -Alex. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 12:22 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: State of radeon driver > > > I have installed xfree86 4.4.0 rc1 on my laptop (an acer > 1455LMi_ATI, with an > AMD 600+cou, 512MB ram, and rdeon 9200 graphics). I am > getting about 1000FPS > on glxgears. I would expect more. Also there are some > glitches( hesitations, > and uneven display). What is the state of the driver? Is > there a common > source of patches/future versions of it available. I would > like to be able to > track progress on the driver and install new versions without > redoing all of > xfree86 which is a minor pain. > > Thanks, > > Tom Corner > > --- > |\/\/\___/\/\/| Carol Anne Corner & > \ o o / Thomas Corner [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ) ( 10-Dec-2003 12:15:44 Vienna, Austria > ( * * ) mailer: xfmail > \___/ Web Page: www.corner.chello.at > --- > ___ > Devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel > ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
