RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Advise...
because generally for high trafic sites etc.. you want to be fiddeling with the apache settings add harddrives etc.. When you want a lot of flexibility the management console is an obstacle rather than an asset. -Original Message- From: Gordon Rowell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: donderdag 23 augustus 2001 3:08 To: Jelmer Cc: Alexander Wallace; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Advise... On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 02:36:44AM +0200, Jelmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: e-smith is just a customid redhat so it probably could be, but i wouldn't recommendend it as it is specificly targetted to small and medium sized enterprises.. You would probably be better off with standard redhat,suse slackware whatever... Why do it the hard way? The performance of e-smith will be identical to the performance of RedHat (since we use the same kernel, libraries, etc.), and we provide a management layer on top. Packages which install on the corresponding RedHat release will install directly on e-smith and you can manually configure them if you wish, or add templates and actions to have it done automatically. Gordon -- Gordon Rowell[EMAIL PROTECTED] VP Engineering Network Server Solutions Group http://www.e-smith.com Mitel Networks Corporation http://www.mitel.com -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard interface 2nd release
Sorry guys, I must have missed the first e-mail where can we get the second release of this Squidguard GUI??? Timothy Pugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Allen Rapini [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Trevor Thanks again, for the squidGuard package. I honestly didn't have any problems I knew of with ver. 1, but I figured I could guinea pig my home system for you. Works great, as advertised, without a reboot... Allen I my self wood agree not seen any problems it works a treat !!. -- Timothy Pugh -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org -- Regards Brandon Friedman Product Manager Tech-Knowledgy Advantage Ph: +27 (011) 486-0626 Fax: +27 (011) 486-0629 Cell: +27 (083) 408-7840 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.techknowledgy.co.za PO Box 1909, Houghton, 2041 South Africa No. 1 Mowbray Road, Greenside, Johannesburg, South Africa e-smith Authorised Partners -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard interface 2nd release
Hi Trevor I have the first release installed. Must I uninstall the first release before I install this one??? if so how? Trevor Ouellette [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [This may be a double post -- I haven't received my first post yet] I'm trying to fix all the problems that were plaguing the SquidGuard interface. If anyone cares, here's how to download/install it. I've had a lot of inexperienced people asking about content filtering, so I want to make this easy for them. I know it's unconventional (PHP scripts), please bear with me. - Log in as ROOT/PASSWORD - mkdir /squidguard2 - cd /squidguard2 - wget -nv http://www.greencomputer.com/squidguard-2.tar - tar -xf squidguard-2.tar - ./create-squidguard Rebooting is optional GRIN FIXES: Downloads the latest blacklist (Pal from squidguard removed all the bogus entries like Netscape and AOL from the blacklist). The blacklist is now called blacklist.tar.gz~ There is a workaround for when you go through the admin console and squidguard stops updating -- log in as root and enter /usr/local/squidGuard/setacls. Remember to password protect your ibay. This protects your internal network. If anyone knows how to do this from the commandline (shell please), let me know and I can implement it. Or do it yourself and send me a copy. (it's in the create-squidguard script). -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org -- Regards Brandon Friedman Product Manager Tech-Knowledgy Advantage Ph: +27 (011) 486-0626 Fax: +27 (011) 486-0629 Cell: +27 (083) 408-7840 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.techknowledgy.co.za PO Box 1909, Houghton, 2041 South Africa No. 1 Mowbray Road, Greenside, Johannesburg, South Africa e-smith Authorised Partners -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this appropriate?
Ever heard of the phrase 'The customer is always right' :P Telling customers that they're clueless hmm what a novell ideam, got to pass that on to the marketting dep. -Original Message- From: Brandon Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: donderdag 23 augustus 2001 13:33 To: Kirrily Robert Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this appropriate? Hi Kirrily Kirrily Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Ken, I've never seen you say a single useful or positive thing on this list. The only time you say anything is when you want to bash us for some licensing issue which, on every occasion, you have misunderstood and continued to wilfully misunderstand even after we explain it to you in small words. Please try to get a clue. I just wanted to ask if you feel that this sort of comment is approciate on a public list? Firstly I think it is unprofessional! You should just e-mail him privately with these comments! I am not here to cause an argument... just a suggestion! Regards Brandon Friedman Product Manager Tech-Knowledgy Advantage Ph: +27 (011) 486-0626 Fax: +27 (011) 486-0629 Cell: +27 (083) 408-7840 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.techknowledgy.co.za PO Box 1909, Houghton, 2041 South Africa No. 1 Mowbray Road, Greenside, Johannesburg, South Africa e-smith Authorised Partners -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this appropriate?
From: Brandon Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 23 August 2001 9:03 PM Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this appropriate? Hi Kirrily Kirrily Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Ken, I've never seen you say a single useful or positive thing on this list. The only time you say anything is when you want to bash us for some licensing issue which, on every occasion, you have misunderstood and continued to wilfully misunderstand even after we explain it to you in small words. Please try to get a clue. I just wanted to ask if you feel that this sort of comment is approciate on a public list? Firstly I think it is unprofessional! You should just e-mail him privately with these comments! This may be a cultural issue, having seen some of skud's other rants in other places I think she has shown great restraint. On the issue of it being an appropriate place, (and speaking as another Aussie), this is the place where he raised the issue(s) so is most likely a valid place to respond. Personally I didnt give it a moments thought until I read your post; I think this list in particular can cope with this. Rob. -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this appropriate?
Hello Jelmer, Of course we would never engage in a dialogue like this with a customer in a public forum. We strongly agree with you that the customer is always right. However, I should make sure it is clear that Ken Yuinipo is not a customer. He is using our software for free (which he is completely welcome to do), and is using our public forums (which we host using our hardware and Internet connections) to make accusations about us that are unwarranted and untrue. That really smarts, considering that we have spent a great deal of time and money developing and maintaining the software that he enjoys (at no charge). We have also gone to great lengths to avoid messing with the GPL on our server software. Given that these accusations were made in a public forum - again, by someone that we have no formal relationship with - we feel that it is completely appropriate for us to defend ourselves in the same forum. Best regards, - Joe Jelmer Kuperus wrote: Ever heard of the phrase 'The customer is always right' :P Telling customers that they're clueless hmm what a novell ideam, got to pass that on to the marketting dep. -- Joseph Morrison, AVP Technology Strategy+1 613 368 4399 Network Server Solutions Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mitel Networks, Ottawa, Canada http://www.mitel.com -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced
Yes but he is entitled to his opinion... wether it is good or bad! There is no need to insult him! Ross Laver [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I think Ken's motives have been clear from the moment he popped up on this list. And they clearly have nothing to do with helping the open source community. Ross Ken Yuinipo wrote: Ok Charlie, then why wasn't the IPSEC VPN Service released GPL? I don't mean SWAN... there was NO support from Esmith re: the IPSEC/SWAN stuff on the devinfo list. The truth is managagement gave you the green light on your log program because log programs don't threaten the bottom line. Am I right? Charlie, I believe that you take GPL very seriously, but frankly you are not in charge. Ken Y. Did anyone look at the license on my view log files add-on released (with management blessing) on Friday? Charlie Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lead Product Developer Network Server Solutions Grouphttp://www.e-smith.com/ Mitel Networks Corporationhttp://www.mitel.com/ Phone: +1 (613) 368 4376 or 564 8000 Fax: +1 (613) 564 7739 _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org -- Ross Laver Director, Marketing Communications Mitel Networks - Network Server Solutions Group direct: +1.613.368.4384 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org -- Regards Brandon Friedman Product Manager Tech-Knowledgy Advantage Ph: +27 (011) 486-0626 Fax: +27 (011) 486-0629 Cell: +27 (083) 408-7840 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.techknowledgy.co.za PO Box 1909, Houghton, 2041 South Africa No. 1 Mowbray Road, Greenside, Johannesburg, South Africa e-smith Authorised Partners -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this appropriate?
Ever heard of the phrase 'The customer is always right' :P Has anyone determined that this individual IS a customer? And if so, I for one would appreciate anyone not starting a slamfest on either side. If this individual is a customer, then pick up the phone and gritch in person and quit sniping at the developers... I much prefer the normal discussions, maybe there should just be a complaints forum, right next to the Wish List Allen -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this appropriate?
I agree with Allen...this isn't the place to post messages of that nature.. It should be a private message to that person whether he/she is a customer or not! Allen Rapini [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Ever heard of the phrase 'The customer is always right' :P Has anyone determined that this individual IS a customer? And if so, I for one would appreciate anyone not starting a slamfest on either side. If this individual is a customer, then pick up the phone and gritch in person and quit sniping at the developers... I much prefer the normal discussions, maybe there should just be a complaints forum, right next to the Wish List Allen -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org -- Regards Brandon Friedman Product Manager Tech-Knowledgy Advantage Ph: +27 (011) 486-0626 Fax: +27 (011) 486-0629 Cell: +27 (083) 408-7840 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.techknowledgy.co.za PO Box 1909, Houghton, 2041 South Africa No. 1 Mowbray Road, Greenside, Johannesburg, South Africa e-smith Authorised Partners -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this appropriate?
Hi Joseph I don't argue with what you say... I just feel the comments that were made are out-of-line.. You cannot insult a 'potential' customer(or anyone for that matter) on a public forum, in the way Kirrily did. It isn't the first time it's happened either. I don't feel that it was necessary.. Joseph Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hello Jelmer, Of course we would never engage in a dialogue like this with a customer in a public forum. We strongly agree with you that the customer is always right. However, I should make sure it is clear that Ken Yuinipo is not a customer. He is using our software for free (which he is completely welcome to do), and is using our public forums (which we host using our hardware and Internet connections) to make accusations about us that are unwarranted and untrue. That really smarts, considering that we have spent a great deal of time and money developing and maintaining the software that he enjoys (at no charge). We have also gone to great lengths to avoid messing with the GPL on our server software. Given that these accusations were made in a public forum - again, by someone that we have no formal relationship with - we feel that it is completely appropriate for us to defend ourselves in the same forum. Best regards, - Joe Jelmer Kuperus wrote: Ever heard of the phrase 'The customer is always right' :P Telling customers that they're clueless hmm what a novell ideam, got to pass that on to the marketting dep. -- Joseph Morrison, AVP Technology Strategy +1 613 368 4399 Network Server Solutions Group[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mitel Networks, Ottawa, Canadahttp://www.mitel.com -- Regards Brandon Friedman Product Manager Tech-Knowledgy Advantage Ph: +27 (011) 486-0626 Fax: +27 (011) 486-0629 Cell: +27 (083) 408-7840 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.techknowledgy.co.za PO Box 1909, Houghton, 2041 South Africa No. 1 Mowbray Road, Greenside, Johannesburg, South Africa e-smith Authorised Partners -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Advise...
Cool! I'm liking it! I really trust e-smith with the security, and it performs marvelously in the servers that I have it installed on, but didn't know how it would behave in big machines with critical situations... Thanks again! On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Gordon Rowell wrote: On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 02:23:39PM -0500, Alexander Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there... Can e-smith be used as a serious, expect high trafic, web server? running on a dual processor machine with 1 gig of ram??? Yes. e-smith fully supports SMP machines (assuming your motherboard is support by the appropriate RedHat release) and Apache is certainly up to high traffic loads. Can it also be used as a serious database server (probably db2) running on a quad xeon machine with 4 gb or fam, and 640 GB fibre channel disk array??? Yes, assuming the hardware is supported by the appropriate RedHat release. You will need to do some post-install customisation as e-smith is designed for a single disk or mirrored disk pair install. Large database servers tend to run well with lots of spindles, with tables, logs and indexes split across those spindles. However, this is no different from building a large database server on any other *nix variant. Thanks, Gordon -- Gordon Rowell[EMAIL PROTECTED] VP Engineering Network Server Solutions Group http://www.e-smith.com Mitel Networks Corporation http://www.mitel.com -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this appropriate?
I agree completly with the e-smith stance Now isn't it time for this thread to die? Garret - Original Message - From: Brandon Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jelmer Kuperus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Kirrily Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this appropriate? Hi Joseph I don't argue with what you say... I just feel the comments that were made are out-of-line.. You cannot insult a 'potential' customer(or anyone for that matter) on a public forum, in the way Kirrily did. It isn't the first time it's happened either. I don't feel that it was necessary.. Joseph Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.273 / Virus Database: 143 - Release Date: 8/16/2001 -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this appropriate?
I started it so I will end it. Thanks guys for your response.. #END little bark BIG BYTE [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I agree completly with the e-smith stance Now isn't it time for this thread to die? Garret - Original Message - From: Brandon Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jelmer Kuperus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Kirrily Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this appropriate? Hi Joseph I don't argue with what you say... I just feel the comments that were made are out-of-line.. You cannot insult a 'potential' customer(or anyone for that matter) on a public forum, in the way Kirrily did. It isn't the first time it's happened either. I don't feel that it was necessary.. Joseph Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.273 / Virus Database: 143 - Release Date: 8/16/2001 -- Regards Brandon Friedman Product Manager Tech-Knowledgy Advantage Ph: +27 (011) 486-0626 Fax: +27 (011) 486-0629 Cell: +27 (083) 408-7840 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.techknowledgy.co.za PO Box 1909, Houghton, 2041 South Africa No. 1 Mowbray Road, Greenside, Johannesburg, South Africa e-smith Authorised Partners -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this appropriate?
Being the managing developer for myPHPnuke, I'd like to respond to this.:-) What if? All of the forks of PHP-Nuke, which by the way was developed from some other weblogs, have been very good for the community as a whole I believe. Just a year and a half ago choices were very limited, as were features. Because of the expanded development base users have a huge selection now, with many options. I have looked at e-smith, from a developers point of view, and if and when I decide to make a Linux distro, I have to be honest . . . it will be based on e-smith. Garret - Original Message - From: Lars Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this appropriate? Since this devinfo-list more and more has taken the shape of an opinion-list lately, here's my contibution: I've closely followed the E-Smith project all the way since version 2 or so, and I've used (and I still use!) the technology from E-Smith professionally as well as privately, and yes I am a customer as well, - if you equals that with someone who pays his support fee. There is of course no doubt about that the E-Smith Concept is a winner! It's simply the best server system I've stumbled into for small or meduim sized organisations! I just want to express my sincere worries for the future of the E-Smith concept as the roads seems to take maybe too sharp bends too suddenly. One of (but of course far from the only!) the most apparent reasons for a small or medium sized business to take a closer look at E-Smith used to be the unbeatable price/performance factors. Now this has suddenly changed very quickly, and I would find it hard to convince someone to choose an E-Smith-based server for his new business. The future feels too unsure, and if the customer would be in great need of a STABLE long term support license (most of them are!), how would I convince him that this is going to be a stable choice for quite some future? What would convince him that this move isn't going to be followed by another major price change in the future, - since Mitel already has showed they're capable of doing it once they could of course do it twice? I also feel worried for where all good guys in the E-Smith community will direct their contributions in the future. It wouldn't surprise me if this recent move from Mitel clearly is going to prove that their GPL-licensed products live their own life. What if the community would thart to develop and distribute the E-Smith concept into some new direction, - ending up with the famous PHP-Nuke/Post-Nuke/My-Nuke/Your-Nuke-syndrome? ..Just an opinion, - no need to flame me.. //Lasse Jelmer Kuperus wrote: Ever heard of the phrase 'The customer is always right' :P Telling customers that they're clueless hmm what a novell ideam, got to pass that on to the marketting dep. -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.273 / Virus Database: 143 - Release Date: 8/16/2001 -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this appropriate?
Ever heard of the phrase 'The customer is always right' :P An excellent philosophy on how to treat the customer, whether paying or not since those in the not category often influence others as much or more than those in the paying category, and you know what they say of the effect of one bad customer vs one good customer. But as a factual statement? Often very far removed from fact! ;-) Scott -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard 2
Hi Brandon, You do not have to uninstall the 1st version. 1. Simple follow the instructions for installing version 2. 2. You can now delete the /squidguard and /squidguard2 installation directories. That's it! If you have any other questions or concerns, please let me know and I will do my best to help you through it. Trev. -Original Message- From: Brandon Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 5:39 AM To: Trevor Ouellette Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard 2 Hi Trevor I have the first release installed. Must I uninstall first?? if so how? Trevor Ouellette [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'm trying to fix all the problems that were plauging the squidguard interface. If anyone cares, here's how to download/install it. I've had a lot of inexperienced people asking about content filtering, so I want to make this easy for them. I know it's unconventional (PHP scripts), please bear with me. - Log in as ROOT/PASSWORD - mkdir /squidguard2 - cd /squidguard2 - wget -nv http://www.greencomputer.com/squidguard-2.tar - tar -xf squidguard-2.tar - ./create-squidguard Rebooting is optional GRIN FIXES: Downloads the latest blacklist (Pal from squidguard removed all the bogus entries like Netscape and AOL from the blacklist). The blacklist is now called blacklist.tar.gz~ There is a workaround for when you go through the admin console and squidguard stops updating -- log in as root and enter /usr/local/squidGuard/setacls. Remember to password protect your ibay. This protects your internal network. If anyone knows how to do this from the commandline (shell please), let me know and I can implement it. Or do it yourself and send me a copy. (it's in the create-squidguard script). -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org -- Regards Brandon Friedman Product Manager Tech-Knowledgy Advantage Ph: +27 (011) 486-0626 Fax: +27 (011) 486-0629 Cell: +27 (083) 408-7840 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.techknowledgy.co.za PO Box 1909, Houghton, 2041 South Africa No. 1 Mowbray Road, Greenside, Johannesburg, South Africa e-smith Authorised Partners -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this appropriate?
On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 11:13:58AM -0400, Smith, Jeffery S (Scott) wrote: Ever heard of the phrase 'The customer is always right' :P An excellent philosophy on how to treat the customer, whether paying or not since those in the not category often influence others as much or more than those in the paying category, and you know what they say of the effect of one bad customer vs one good customer. But as a factual statement? Often very far removed from fact! ;-) And as for our friend Ken actually being a *customer* ... heh. I've yet to see any evidence that he's even a *user* of our product rather than (to pull a hypothetical example out of thin air) an agent of a rival company planted in our midst to spread dissent, much less a member of our target market and/or a potential source of revenue. As you've seen, we've made the best attempt we can to answer peoples' questions on this subject, especially when those questions are asked out of a genuine desire to know the answer, rather than a desire to cause us discomfort. We'll never meet Ken's high standards for open source software (incidentally, it's funny that such a vocal advocate of the GPL doesn't show up in a search on google or deja) because his standards are not based on reality but on some other value system which appears to have at its core the desire to degrade e-smith's (sorry, Mitel's) reputation. K. (PS: those of you with some time on your hands may like to search for the term astroturf on slashdot.org) -- Kirrily Skud Robert -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer website: http://www.e-smith.org Corporate website: http://www.e-smith.com -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
[e-smith-devinfo] myphpnuke for e-smith
Garret How's the burn-out? ;-) I've been looking for an *nuke* and have settled on myphpnuke. Do you (or anyone else) have any advice or how-to on installing/running with e-smith? TIA Scott -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
[e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard 2 Development
I've still got two questions that I can't figure out. Any experienced developer should be able to nail this down for me. If you request more information I can post the script on the list. If there is any security issues, please bring them to my attention. 1. When you go through the admin console squidguard stops working. The only workaround that I know of is to exec /usr/local/squidGuard/setacls 2. I need to know how to set a password on an ibay from the commandline. I am going to put it in my shell script -- you will have to log in with an account and password for additional security. Thanks! Trev. -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard 2 Development
Hi Keith!
I haven't heard from you in a while. I appreciate the code... :-) In fact,
the code below is what you sent me last time.
Here is my script so far. Currently the ibay doesn't prompt the user for a
password when accessed directly at http://192.168.1.1/squidguard
SNIP
/sbin/e-smith/db accounts set squidguard ibay Group admin UserAccess
wr-admin-rd-group PublicAccess local CgiBin enabled PasswordSet no Name
squidguard Gid 5101 Uid 5101
# create the account on the system
/sbin/e-smith/signal-event ibay-create squidguard
# hack to use the setibay function from command line
perl -e 'use esmith::util;' -e
'esmith::util::setIbayPassword(squidguard,pass);'
# Notify manager that password is set
/sbin/e-smith/db accounts setprop squidguard PasswordSet yes
/SNIP
-Original Message-
From: Keith Woody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 1:35 PM
To: Trevor Ouellette
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard 2 Development
Trev,
i dunno about the first one, but...
- Original Message -
From: Trevor Ouellette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: E-Smith Developers Info Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 12:01 PM
Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard 2 Development
sniparoony
2. I need to know how to set a password on an ibay from the commandline.
I
am going to put it in my shell script -- you will have to log in with an
account and password for additional security.
/sniparoony
## to set the password
#
perl -e 'use esmith::util;' -e 'esmith::util::setIbayPassword ('IBAYNAME',
'PASSWORD');'
##to show that its been set
#
/sbin/e-smith/db accounts setprop IBAYNAME PasswordSet yes
Regards,
-Keith
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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard 2 Development
Hi Darrell, All programs APPEAR to operate properly (checking the logs). In fact, squid's transproxy and squidguard both continue to load and work properly. It's something in the setacls file in /usr/local/squidGuard. Maybe permissions... that sounds right. Do you have any more information about using an alias directory instead of an ibay. That sounds pretty good. That way, internal clients won't see the /squidguard directory in Samba. In fact, I don't even want anyone to see the ibay in Samba. Good thinking... I'll keep looking around! Trev. -Original Message- From: Darrell May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 1:57 PM To: Trevor Ouellette; E-Smith Developers Info Mailing List Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard 2 Development What part stops working? Anyhow, probably due to the fact the admin console runs as user admin and your PHP page would be set www. 2. I need to know how to set a password on an ibay from the commandline. I see you got the answer for this already, however, I would recommend you not use an ibay to host your application. I agree e-smith makes it easier for websites to be run from ibays but it has been posted before that ibays really are intended for file sharing and simple web sites only. Not for hosting applications where advanced httpd.conf configuration is needed. (Just to counterdict myself, Dan Brown has a HowTo for adding some advanced ibay properties but limited to one line entry I believe) But in any event, to really have the freedom to go beyond the current ibay or advanced ibay settings, it may be better to host your squidguard implementation from an alias directory. This would also make it simpler to build the final product into an rpm. Just my thoughts, -- Darrell May DMC NETSOURCED.COM http://netsourced.com -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard 2 Development
I had posted a wish list entry about just that sort of thing. I would like to see the number of announced browsable share reduced to the minimum via SAMBA, and Appletalk. Allen -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard 2 Development
Trevor Ouellette [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: But you can still reach it by doing a \\servername\ibay right? It just becomes like the netlogon directory. Plus, netatalk is still running. Correct. Again, if these ibays in question are not used for file sharing, then again it is better not to use ibays. Use a directory alias in httpd.conf. -- Darrell May DMC NETSOURCED.COM http://netsourced.com -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard 2 Development
Darrell, have you used directory alias's yourself? Is it as simple at inserting a few templates into the httpd.conf directory (custom-templates of course)? Trev. -Original Message- From: Darrell May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 2:39 PM To: Trevor Ouellette; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Allen Rapini; E-Smith Developers Info Mailing List Subject: RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard 2 Development Trevor Ouellette [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: But you can still reach it by doing a \\servername\ibay right? It just becomes like the netlogon directory. Plus, netatalk is still running. Correct. Again, if these ibays in question are not used for file sharing, then again it is better not to use ibays. Use a directory alias in httpd.conf. -- Darrell May DMC NETSOURCED.COM http://netsourced.com -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Re: myphpnuke for e-smith
Wow, I hadn't expected that. I guess you and I should talk further Darrell. What I had invisioned Darrell was some sort of management interface that would allow people to create any number of mpn websites, along with the abilitiy to create virtual domains of course. That's one reason the ibays work so well. I've got e-smith servers that are hosting 20 or so websites, without ANY mods to the server. I would be very interested in speaking with you about this. As to which version...we are getting through much of the mud we've been going through lately, and 1.8.8 final should be available shortly. Looking forward to hearing from you on this. Garret - Original Message - From: Darrell May [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: little bark BIG BYTE2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Smith, Jeffery S (Scott) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Re: myphpnuke for e-smith little bark BIG BYTE2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Maybe we could talk e-smith into including us with their next version Do you have time to build the rpm or should I? If I build it would you recommend I use 1.8.7? Last question, would you recommend I keep the default alias http://yourdomain.com/mpn? -- Darrell May DMC NETSOURCED.COM http://netsourced.com -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
Fwd: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Re: myphpnuke for e-smith
Why myphpnuke instead of postnuke (personally use) or phpnuke? - Forwarded message from little bark BIG BYTE2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 14:46:46 -0600 From: little bark BIG BYTE2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: little bark BIG BYTE2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Re: myphpnuke for e-smith To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],Smith, Jeffery S (Scott) [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wow, I hadn't expected that. I guess you and I should talk further Darrell. What I had invisioned Darrell was some sort of management interface that would allow people to create any number of mpn websites, along with the abilitiy to create virtual domains of course. That's one reason the ibays work so well. I've got e-smith servers that are hosting 20 or so websites, without ANY mods to the server. I would be very interested in speaking with you about this. As to which version...we are getting through much of the mud we've been going through lately, and 1.8.8 final should be available shortly. Looking forward to hearing from you on this. Garret - Original Message - From: Darrell May [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: little bark BIG BYTE2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Smith, Jeffery S (Scott) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Re: myphpnuke for e-smith little bark BIG BYTE2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Maybe we could talk e-smith into including us with their next version Do you have time to build the rpm or should I? If I build it would you recommend I use 1.8.7? Last question, would you recommend I keep the default alias http://yourdomain.com/mpn? -- Darrell May DMC NETSOURCED.COM http://netsourced.com -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org - End forwarded message - -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard 2 Development
On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Trevor Ouellette wrote: On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Darrell May wrote: I see you got the answer for this already, however, I would recommend you not use an ibay to host your application. I'd strongly second Darrell's recommendation. Do you have any more information about using an alias directory instead of an ibay. That sounds pretty good. That way, internal clients won't see the /squidguard directory in Samba. I'd suggest that you start by looking at the way that the e-smith-imp RPM integrates /webmail into the website without using an i-bay. You'll find detailed instructions on making and modifying e-smith RPMs on the e-smith.org web site. -- Charlie Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lead Product Developer Network Server Solutions Grouphttp://www.e-smith.com/ Mitel Networks Corporationhttp://www.mitel.com/ Phone: +1 (613) 368 4376 or 564 8000 Fax: +1 (613) 564 7739 -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard 2 Development
Thanks Charlie, That's right, imp and webmail is a good example. I will start work on using the alias directory. Trev. -Original Message- From: Charlie Brady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 3:21 PM To: Trevor Ouellette Cc: E-Smith Developers Info Mailing List Subject: RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard 2 Development I'd suggest that you start by looking at the way that the e-smith-imp RPM integrates /webmail into the website without using an i-bay. You'll find detailed instructions on making and modifying e-smith RPMs on the e-smith.org web site. -- Charlie Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lead Product Developer Network Server Solutions Grouphttp://www.e-smith.com/ Mitel Networks Corporationhttp://www.mitel.com/ Phone: +1 (613) 368 4376 or 564 8000 Fax: +1 (613) 564 7739 -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
[e-smith-devinfo] RE: Squid Guard 2 Development
Hi Marco, You bet it does. Below are the instructions. You can delete /squidguard and /squidguard2 after the installation is complete. Trev. - Log in as ROOT/PASSWORD - mkdir /squidguard2 - cd /squidguard2 - wget -nv http://www.greencomputer.com/squidguard-2.tar - tar -xf squidguard-2.tar - ./create-squidguard Rebooting is optional GRIN FIXES: Downloads the latest blacklist (Pal from squidguard removed all the bogus entries like Netscape and AOL from the blacklist). The blacklist is now called blacklist.tar.gz~ There is a workaround for when you go through the admin console and squidguard stops updating -- log in as root and enter /usr/local/squidGuard/setacls. Remember to password protect your ibay. This protects your internal network. If anyone knows how to do this from the commandline (shell please), let me know and I can implement it. Or do it yourself and send me a copy. (it's in the create-squidguard script). -Original Message- From: Marco Ranieri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 3:39 PM To: Trevor Ouellette Subject: Squid Guard 2 Development I noticed that you mentioned the release of Squid Guard release 2 . Does it fix the problem where it stopped updating the blacklist file? Where can I download it to try for my e-smith box? Thanks. Marco Ranieri -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
RE: Re[2]: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard 2 Development
Bertrand, That's pretty straight-forward. Thanks for the template and I'll let you know how I make out! Trev. -Original Message- From: Bertrand CHERRIER [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 3:57 PM To: E-Smith Developers Info Mailing List Subject: Re[2]: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard 2 Development Bonjour Trevor Ouellette, This is the kind of template I use when I don't want a directory (ibay) to be used ... exemple is for phpSysinfo (I'll be building a RPM soon :) #--- # PHP SYSINFO #--- Alias /sysinfo /usr/local/phpSysinfo/ Directory /usr/local/phpSysinfo AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .php3 .phtml AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps Options Indexes Options +Includes AllowOverride None order deny,allow deny from all allow from 127.0.0.1 10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0 /Directory #-- The file itself is located here : /etc/e-smith/template-custom/etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf/93phpSysinfo I stock my web files in usr/local (this came from netsaints rpm :) after this you just have to expand template and that's it ! It's much safer than modifying directly the httpd.conf as e-smith restores it after an improper shut down and wipe out all the modifications, but by using the templates the pb doesn't occur. vendredi 24 août 2001, 07:45:58, vous avez écrit: TO Darrell, have you used directory alias's yourself? Is it as simple at TO inserting a few templates into the httpd.conf directory (custom-templates of TO course)? TO Trev. TO -Original Message- TO From: Darrell May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] TO Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 2:39 PM TO To: Trevor Ouellette; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Allen Rapini; E-Smith TO Developers Info Mailing List TO Subject: RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard 2 Development TO Trevor Ouellette [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: But you can still reach it by doing a \\servername\ibay right? It just becomes like the netlogon directory. Plus, netatalk is still running. TO Correct. Again, if these ibays in question are not used for file TO sharing, then again it is better not to use ibays. Use a directory alias TO in httpd.conf. TO -- TO Darrell May TO DMC NETSOURCED.COM TO http://netsourced.com -- Cordialement, Bertrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux-nc.org Linux, il y a moins bien, mais c'est plus cher ! -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
Re[2]: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard 2 Development
On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Bertrand CHERRIER wrote: Bonjour Trevor Ouellette, This is the kind of template I use when I don't want a directory (ibay) to be used ... exemple is for phpSysinfo (I'll be building a RPM soon :) Have you looked at my contrib, e-smith-phpsysinfo? Not that I would mind you doing another version, but it might save you a little work to start with mine. It hasn't been updated in a while, so it's not the latest version. -- Charlie Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lead Product Developer Network Server Solutions Grouphttp://www.e-smith.com/ Mitel Networks Corporationhttp://www.mitel.com/ Phone: +1 (613) 368 4376 or 564 8000 Fax: +1 (613) 564 7739 -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
Re[3]: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard 2 Development
Bonjour Charlie Brady, Oooppss didn't knew you've made one :) I had a look at it, install it, is it supposed to be in the webmanager ?? I've tried http://myserver/phpSysinfo ... without success :( I'll get the src and have a look at it ... as I use it a lot, I might (with your approval) upgrade it to the latest version ... vendredi 24 août 2001, 09:07:07, vous avez écrit: CB On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Bertrand CHERRIER wrote: CB Have you looked at my contrib, e-smith-phpsysinfo? Not that I would mind CB you doing another version, but it might save you a little work to start CB with mine. CB It hasn't been updated in a while, so it's not the latest version. -- Cordialement, Bertrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux-nc.org Linux, il y a moins bien, mais c'est plus cher ! -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
Re[2]: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard 2 Development
On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Bertrand CHERRIER wrote: Directory /usr/local/phpSysinfo AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .php3 .phtml AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps I doubt that you want to have your source code viewable, in case there are security holes, or secret passwords, or whatever, in the code. Options Indexes You almost certainly don't want indexes. Options +Includes And you probably don't want/need includes. AllowOverride None order deny,allow deny from all allow from 127.0.0.1 10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0 /Directory -- Charlie Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lead Product Developer Network Server Solutions Grouphttp://www.e-smith.com/ Mitel Networks Corporationhttp://www.mitel.com/ Phone: +1 (613) 368 4376 or 564 8000 Fax: +1 (613) 564 7739 -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
RE: Re[2]: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard 2 Development
On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Trevor Ouellette wrote: Any suggestions how to fix or make them more secure, Charlie? Delete these lines: AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps Options Indexes Options +Includes Please correct me if I'm wrong, anyone. I'm not an Apache config guru, I just get by. -- Charlie Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lead Product Developer Network Server Solutions Grouphttp://www.e-smith.com/ Mitel Networks Corporationhttp://www.mitel.com/ Phone: +1 (613) 368 4376 or 564 8000 Fax: +1 (613) 564 7739 -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
RE: Re[2]: [e-smith-devinfo] alias directories(was SquidGuard 2 Development)
Nevermind, I assume that if you just take the lines out it will work more securely. Trev. -Original Message- From: Trevor Ouellette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 4:48 PM To: Charlie Brady; Bertrand CHERRIER Cc: E-Smith Developers Info Mailing List Subject: RE: Re[2]: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard 2 Development Any suggestions how to fix or make them more secure, Charlie? -Original Message- From: Charlie Brady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 4:45 PM To: Bertrand CHERRIER Cc: E-Smith Developers Info Mailing List Subject: Re[2]: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard 2 Development On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Bertrand CHERRIER wrote: Directory /usr/local/phpSysinfo AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .php3 .phtml AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps I doubt that you want to have your source code viewable, in case there are security holes, or secret passwords, or whatever, in the code. Options Indexes You almost certainly don't want indexes. Options +Includes And you probably don't want/need includes. AllowOverride None order deny,allow deny from all allow from 127.0.0.1 10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0 /Directory -- Charlie Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lead Product Developer Network Server Solutions Grouphttp://www.e-smith.com/ Mitel Networks Corporationhttp://www.mitel.com/ Phone: +1 (613) 368 4376 or 564 8000 Fax: +1 (613) 564 7739 -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
[e-smith-devinfo] awk stopped outputting anything
has anybody had awk just up and quit on their e-smith server v4.1.2? any ideas about how i can get it back up and running? it won't output _anything_ awk -W won't even print out version info, and there's nothing in any error logs. any help appreciated greatly. -keith -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
Re: [e-smith-devinfo] awk stopped outputting anything
On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 04:07:36PM -0700, Keith Woody [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: has anybody had awk just up and quit on their e-smith server v4.1.2? any ideas about how i can get it back up and running? it won't output _anything_ awk -W won't even print out version info, and there's nothing in any error logs. any help appreciated greatly. First step would be to run: rpm -Vf /usr/bin/awk to see if the awk binary has been corrupted. This command checks the integrity of the package containing the named file. Gordon -- Gordon Rowell[EMAIL PROTECTED] VP Engineering Network Server Solutions Group http://www.e-smith.com Mitel Networks Corporation http://www.mitel.com -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
RE: Re[2]: [e-smith-devinfo] alias directories(was SquidGuard 2 Development)
Trevor Ouellette [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Nevermind, I assume that if you just take the lines out it will work more securely. Trev. Here's another phpsysinfo template fragment example. Application is installed in /opt/administration/phpsysinfo. Access by entering: https://yourdomain.com/phpsysinfo Note this forces SSL and requires the admin login/password: # Administration: phpsysinfo Alias /phpsysinfo /opt/administration/phpsysinfo Directory /opt/administration/phpsysinfo RequireSSL on Options -Indexes AllowOverride None order deny,allow deny from all allow from all AuthName phpSysInfo AuthType Basic AuthExternal pwauth require user admin Satisfy all AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .php3 php_flag magic_quotes_gpc on php_flag track_varson /Directory If you want multiple user security, including both internal and external users, follow this HowTo: http://netsourced.com/servers/docs/website-access-security-howto.html Regards, -- Darrell May DMC NETSOURCED.COM http://netsourced.com -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
RE: Re[2]: [e-smith-devinfo] alias directories(was SquidGuard 2 Development)
That's pretty slick... :-) Trev. -Original Message- From: Darrell May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 6:09 PM To: Trevor Ouellette; E-Smith Developers Info Mailing List Subject: RE: Re[2]: [e-smith-devinfo] alias directories(was SquidGuard 2 Development) Trevor Ouellette [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Nevermind, I assume that if you just take the lines out it will work more securely. Trev. Here's another phpsysinfo template fragment example. Application is installed in /opt/administration/phpsysinfo. Access by entering: https://yourdomain.com/phpsysinfo Note this forces SSL and requires the admin login/password: # Administration: phpsysinfo Alias /phpsysinfo /opt/administration/phpsysinfo Directory /opt/administration/phpsysinfo RequireSSL on Options -Indexes AllowOverride None order deny,allow deny from all allow from all AuthName phpSysInfo AuthType Basic AuthExternal pwauth require user admin Satisfy all AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .php3 php_flag magic_quotes_gpc on php_flag track_varson /Directory If you want multiple user security, including both internal and external users, follow this HowTo: http://netsourced.com/servers/docs/website-access-security-howto.html Regards, -- Darrell May DMC NETSOURCED.COM http://netsourced.com -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
Re: [e-smith-devinfo] awk stopped outputting anything
it had been, reinstalled. thanks gordon. -Keith - Original Message - From: Gordon Rowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Keith Woody [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] awk stopped outputting anything First step would be to run: rpm -Vf /usr/bin/awk to see if the awk binary has been corrupted. This command checks the integrity of the package containing the named file. -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this appropriate?
One of (but of course far from the only!) the most apparent reasons for a small or medium sized business to take a closer look at E-Smith used to be the unbeatable price/performance factors. Now this has suddenly changed very quickly, and I would find it hard to convince someone to choose an E-Smith-based server for his new business. The future feels too unsure, and if the customer would be in great need of a STABLE long term support license (most of them are!), how would I convince him that this is going to be a stable choice for quite some future? What would convince him that this move isn't going to be followed by another major price change in the future, - since Mitel already has showed they're capable of doing it once they could of course do it twice? For the record, it's incorrect to say there has been a major price change. Yes, we've introduced a new $595 90-day starter package that includes all of the ServiceLink services (antivirus, monitoring, VPN config, DNS and guaranteed email). But existing customers, and those who have purchased the starter package, can continue to purchase 12-month renewals of their support agreements for $595. If they choose to purchase one of the more expensive packages, it's because they want the additional services and perceive them to be good value (as do we, or we wouldn't have invested time and enormous effort in developing them). We can't be expected to introduce new services, and incur substantial additional costs in the process, and provide them all at the same price that we used to charge for support only. Yes, customers need and want stability. By launching new (optional) services that offer an additional revenue stream for ourselves and our partners, we ensure greater stability for all concerned. One example: we're in the process of expanding our development team. That's good for our customers and good for the open source community. Companies with insufficient revenues cut back on R and D and eventually disappear. (OK, I'll grant you that rigor mortis is a kind of stability.) You're free to decide for yourself whether our services are fairly priced. Our server is open source, so your options are limitless. In the early days of this company we sat around talking about the importance of preserving the customer's freedom to choose, and that commitment hasn't changed one iota. But I can tell you that the feedback we've been getting from our target market has been extremely positive. We anticipate strong demand for V5/ServiceLink, and we can't for a second understand why someone would believe it would bad for our customers and users if had more money at our disposal with which to invest in development and support. ..Just an opinion, - no need to flame me.. I hope you won't consider that a flame. I am thinking, though, that perhaps we need a separate list called bizinfo to ensure that discussions of business issues don't clutter up this list. Mea culpa :-( Ross -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
[e-smith-devinfo] E-Smith Manager and Konqueror 2.1.1
Has anyone had any problems with accessing the E-Smith Manager with Konqueror 2.1.1? Specifically, when I open the manager from a Mandrake 8.0 system using Konqueror, all entries under Security direct you to www.e-smith.com... All other panels work fine... Accesing the manager using Nutscrape, Mozilla or Opera all works fine... it's just Konqueror... -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
