Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Perl package statuses (was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Re: What version of RH is SME 6 based on?)

2003-12-16 Thread Dan Brown
Quoting Dick Morrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> > and there are no such cases to be found, I would ask that a
> > statement to that effect be posted to this list.
> 
> Dan stop taking the steroids

What's the point of this response?  Your message seemed to suggest
that in some way Mitel was not complying with the GPL.  If that's true, it
seems reasonable that you'd indicate where that's the case so they can fix
it.  If not, you should either clarify your statement or post a
retraction.  A response of "stop taking the steroids" doesn't do either,
and doesn't seem appropriate.

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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] HowTo rsync smeserver-6.0unsupported.iso

2003-12-11 Thread Dan Brown
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Peter Samuel wrote:

|>mv \$OLD_ISO \$NEW_ISO
|>rsync \$RSYNC_OPTS \$MIRROR/\$NEW_ISO .
|
| These backslashes are not required. In fact, using them will cause
They are required if you're doing the "cat << EOF" stuff, I think.  Why
Darrell would come up with that needlessly complicated procedure I
couldn't say--it seems it'd be easier to just copy and paste the
relevant script into a file which could go anywhere.  I guess his
procedure would save on keystrokes, but it still seems like an odd way
of doing it...
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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] LDAP authentication - The old chestnut.

2003-10-01 Thread Dan Brown
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Gavin BS Cowie wrote:

| Quoting Myself:
|
|>So to avoid me searching further, can someone confirm that, as Fillipo
|>Carletti says "e-smith has an ldap db for username storage, but not for
|>auth." and that this is the case for 5.6?
|
| And if that's true, HOW does HORDE authenticate??
I've never seen anything to indicate that SME does authenticate via
LDAP, and the existence (and use) of /etc/shadow tends to suggest
otherwise.  Samba uses the smbpasswd file.  Horde authenticates through
IMP, via IMAP (which, if I'm not mistaken, uses system accounts and the
shadow file).
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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] GPG signing RPMs?

2003-09-25 Thread Dan Brown
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Gordon Rowell wrote:

| I've never had that work. I've always built the RPMs and then signed
| them afterwards with rpm --addsign or rpm --resign (or I suppose that
Hmmm, another rpm bug^H^H^Hundocumented feature?  Ah well--if it works,
that's better tham I've got now.  Thanks for the info!
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[e-smith-devinfo] GPG signing RPMs?

2003-09-23 Thread Dan Brown
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As a matter of good practice, I'm trying to get started in GPG-signing
the RPMs I build, but I'm finding documentation on the subject to be
somewhat less than clear and complete.  I build my RPMs on a RedHat 7.3
VM (with latest updates from redhat), which includes GPG 1.0.7.  I've
copied my keyring files to that VM, and I'm able to sign text messages
with GPG without a problem.
	I've edited ~/.rpmmacros to include these lines:

%_signature gpg
%_gpg_path ~/.gnupg
%_gpg_name "Dan Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"
The "gpg_name" above is reported by gpg as the owner of the key I want
to use (same as the one signing this message).  Now, here's the problem:
~ When I run
# rpmbuild -ba --sign php433.spec

I get asked for a passphrase.  When I enter that passphrase, it bounces
back immediately with "Pass phrase check failed".  I suppose it's
possible I've mistyped it, but I've tried it several times, typing
carefully each time.
So far, I haven't found any more information on Google than what I've
already done.  Any suggestions would be appreciated!
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[e-smith-devinfo] Peter Samuel please contact me

2003-09-16 Thread Dan Brown
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Sorry to send this to the list, but any time I try to e-mail you, I get
this back:
~ Failed Recipients 

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable. [SMTP Error Code 550]

from "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".  I had that problem with smebugs too, but
it now seems sorted.  Your address, however, still doesn't work.  Trying
to work out the rsync issue you wrote me about last week.
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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Ver 6

2003-09-15 Thread Dan Brown
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Rex Gaylord wrote:
| Just joined the list.  I've been looking for SME Server Ver 6 to DL and
| test, but all the mirrors I have checked only have up to 5.6.  Is 6 our
| there someplace?
Yes, it's in the "dev" directory on the mirrors.  They haven't released
6.0 yet; it's still in beta (hence the "dev" directory).
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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Getting webmail to work after PHP upgrade

2003-08-28 Thread Dan Brown
 
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> From: Rasjid Wilcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> libraries from horde) and I have not been able to get webmail to 
> work after upgrading to php 4.3.2.

Have you tried following the steps from

http://www.leiinc.com/repository/Linux/Mitel_SME_Server/HowToGuides/sm
e56_imp-horde-php_upgrade.htm

?  They seem to cover everything you'd need to do.

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[e-smith-devinfo] Possible PHP bug?

2003-08-14 Thread Dan Brown
I've recently been running into a bit of an odd problem with PHP on my
SME 5.6 server.  Periodically, in any of my PHP apps (IMP, phpmychat,
phpBB, ISMail, etc.), I'll get a blank page.  When I reload, the page will
display correctly.  With the blank page, I get this in the system log:

Aug  8 10:10:27 e-smith httpd: PHP Warning:  Unknown(): open_basedir
restriction in effect. File(/opt/ISMail/maillist.php) is not within the
allowed path(s): (/home/e-smith/files/ibays/howtos) in Unknown on line 0

It's always the /howtos path that appears in this error, and again,
reloading the page usually works.  Looking through httpd.conf, I only see
that restriction in one place, and it's within a set of  tags
specifying the appropriate directory.

I'm running PHP 4.3.2, and I'm suspecting this may be a PHP bug.  I'm
starting here, though, because I didn't see any discussion of this in the
PHP mailing list archives, and I'd like to see if anybody else has
encountered this or has any other ideas.  If it is a PHP bug, off I go
there...  Thanks for any suggestions!

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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] announce- updated awstats

2003-07-17 Thread Dan Brown
Quoting Craig Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  I have updated the awstats for SME contrib to include the latest
>  stable release (5.6).  This rpm originally by Michael

Was there a problem with 2.0.0 under 5.6?  I've been running it under
5.6 for quite some time without any apparent problems...

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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Installing SME 6 on VMware

2003-07-11 Thread Dan Brown
Quoting Greg Zartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I can't seem to get SME6beta2 to install in VMware 4.  I've
> successfully 
> intalled SME 5.1.2-5.6 on VMware.  SME6 install errors as it enters the
> RPM install phase saying that there isn't enough disk space.

Hmmm, I installed it without a problem on my system (VMware 4 under
win2k), but I had accepted the default virtual disk size (4gb, I think). 
I recall a friend of mine mentioning the same problem with SME 6b2 under
VMWare, though--try increasing the size of the virtual disk.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Updated cups, hpijs packages seeking x86 build host.

2003-07-10 Thread Dan Brown
 
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> From: Robert van den Aker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> The source RPMS can be found at
> http://www.contribs.org/contribs/rvandenaker/beta/e-smith-cups/SRPMS
> / (please grab the latest). Once we have x86 binaries, I can upload
> a new  

Built, and will be available tonight in my contribs directory on
your favorite ftp.e-smith.org mirror.

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[e-smith-devinfo] ANNOUNCE: PHP 4.3.2 packages available

2003-06-22 Thread Dan Brown
 
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I now have available in my contrib area (at any of the e-smith
mirrors) packages of PHP 4.3.2.  In addition to  the obvious version
increment since my previous packages, I've also corrected the spec
file to include the pear installer.  These packages should work with
SME 5.6 or 6.0beta, but probably won't work with 5.5.  However,
you'll need to make a custom template fragment to use them.

Make a copy of /etc/e-smith/templates/etc/php.ini/50PathsDirectories
in templates-custom, and edit include_path to read
".:/usr/share/pear".  Then expand the template.

After installing these RPMs, creating the fragment, and expanding
the template, you'll need to restart httpd-e-smith, and run the
following command:

# pear install Log

...which should install the pear Log class needed by IMP.

These packages seem to work, but they haven't received much testing.
 As always, feedback would be appreciated.

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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] ftp.e-smith.org down?

2003-06-20 Thread Dan Brown
Quoting Gordon Rowell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> After almost 1000 days of service, and 450 days of uptime since the
> last power outage at its co-lo facility, ftp.e-smith.{com,net,org}
> is no more.

I hope it was decommissioned with all due pomp and ceremony; sounds
like it served its purpose quite well!  Sounds like it's off to update my
HOWTOs, though.

Is there a preferred way of referring to paths to download?  I can, of
course, just give URLs for a single mirror in the HOWTO, but that defeats
the purpose of having lots of them.  OTOH, directing the user to the
mirrors list adds another level of complexity.  You know the saying--if
you give the user more than one option, they'll pick the wrong one.  Not
sure if there's an elegant way around this. 

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[e-smith-devinfo] ftp.e-smith.org down?

2003-06-20 Thread Dan Brown
I haven't been able to get to ftp.e-smith.org since about the time of
the 6.0b1 announcement.  I could understand the server being busy, but
it's not even resolving any more.  Has this been taken down, and if so, is
there a replacement, or are we left with only the mirrors, with no master
site?

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Checking SME version from when installing an rpm

2003-06-17 Thread Dan Brown
 
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> From: Michiel Blotwijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> I'm trying to build an rpm that checks at installation time which
> SME version it's running on. I've put the following code in my
> SPECS file  

How about just

Requires: SMEServer >= 5.5

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[e-smith-devinfo] ANNOUNCE: New horde RPMs available

2003-04-06 Thread Dan Brown
 
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I've just released updated versions of my e-smith-horde,
e-smith-imp, and e-smith-turba RPMs, along with RPMs for kronolith (a
calendar), mnemo (a notes/memo app), and nag (a task list).  With the
exception of the mysql.init issue mentioned earlier today, they seem
to work fine on my SME 5.6 test machine, and on my SME 5.6 production
server.  After installing these files, here's what you'll need to do:

# mysql < /home/httpd/html/horde//scripts/drivers/*.sql
## If you've installed more than one of kronolith, nag, and mnemo,
you'll need to repeat this for each of them

# rm -f /etc/e-smith/sql/init/*
# /sbin/e-smith/signal-event horde-update

You will get errors when mysql.init runs, for reasons that I don't
yet understand (if for some reason you don't, you shouldn't need to
create the db manually).  However, once you've manually created the
database as indicated above, the packages seem to work fine.  Of
course, I hope to find out what's going on and eliminate that step,
but for the time being, I'm stuck with it.

These packages have been tested only on SME 5.6.  They may work on
5.5, but I wouldn't bet on it, and I don't have any plans to support
that configuration.

The new RPMs should be available in my contrib area at
ftp://ftp.e-smith.org/pub/e-smith/contrib/DanBrown/RPMS/noarch within
the hour.  As always, feedback is appreciated.

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[e-smith-devinfo] Suggestions wanted re: horde RPMs

2003-04-04 Thread Dan Brown
 
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I've noticed lately that a number of the horde packages have
achieved actual release status, so I'd like to build RPMs to
integrate them with the rest of the SME system.  I'm mostly OK with
the process, but I'm stuck at one point, and I'd like to solicit
input on how to best handle it.

Each of the horde apps has a conf.php file, and each of those files
has a section that looks like this:

/**
 ** Menu settings
 **/

// This is an array of applications (using the names defined in
// horde/config/registry.php) to include links to in the menubar. An
// example providing a link to Turba (an addressbook program) would
// be: $conf['menu']['apps'] = array('turba');
$conf['menu']['apps'] = array('turba');

As the comment says, this array contains a list of the other horde
apps to include links to in the menu bar.  If some more apps were
installed, that last line might look like this:

$conf['menu']['apps'] = array('turba', 'kronolith', 'nag', 'mnemo');

What I'd like to come up with is a way to automatically generate
this line based on the packages that are actually installed, so the
menu bar will link to all the packages that are installed, and only
those that are installed.  The only way that comes to mind at the
moment is to set some database value when the e-smith-whatever
package is installed (and clear the value when it's uninstalled), and
then write a script that will test for all the possible values, and
include only the ones that are set.  This sounds both kind of messy,
and a little beyond my skill level.

So, I'm opening the floor for suggestions--is there another way to
do what I'm trying to do, or if what I've mentioned above is the only
(or best) way, how should I go about implementing it?  As always,
thanks for any information!

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] ANNOUNCE: updated RPMs for IMP and Turba

2003-04-02 Thread Dan Brown
 
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>   I've build updated RPMs of imp (3.2.1-2es), e-smith-imp
> (1.9.0-03db), and e-smith-turba (1.1.0-04db), which should be

Just for the information of any who may care, e-smith-imp is now up
to 1.9.0-05db, fixing a few bugs.  Anybody using an older version of
my contrib for IMP 3.2.1 is encouraged to upgrade.  Feedback
continues to be appreciated.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Changing IMAP daemon (was Re: Changing MTA)

2003-03-28 Thread Dan Brown
 
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> From: Charlie Brady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Courier does apparently avoid the problems mentioned above, but
> also introduce some of its own. Courier comes with a lot of
> "baggage" - if you use courier as it comes off the shelf you get a
> new way of managing network connections, a new way of
> authenticating users, a new way of naming and laying out mail
> folders.

It seems that Michael's packaging (of which I have a derivative in
my contrib area) addresses these issues, including converting the
mail folders.  And is it really "a new way of authenticating users"? 
Courier uses PAM as one possibility, which plugs right into the SME
system (I've used courier-imap on and off since the days of e-smith
3.something, and never really had an auth problem).

> Courier has an overly complex
> configuration system.

I'll have to take your word for that, I guess, but even in earlier
days when I was installing courier-imap myself, I didn't run into
much trouble with it.

> And finally you get some IMAP protocol bugs that the
> developer refuses to fix.

...and, as with many projects, the developer has his own idea of how
things Ought To Be, and a bit of ego behind that belief.  However,
courier, unlike qmail, is GPL'd, so it's possible to fix it (and
release a fixed version) without the developer if necessary.

Now, I really don't have much of an interest in courier-imap as
such.  I've used it a bit, and it works for what I need it to do, but
it's only one possibility.  If there are others out there that will
give its benefits without its drawbacks (or others even worse), so
much the better.

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[e-smith-devinfo] ANNOUNCE: updated RPMs for IMP and Turba

2003-03-26 Thread Dan Brown
 
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I've build updated RPMs of imp (3.2.1-2es), e-smith-imp
(1.9.0-03db), and e-smith-turba (1.1.0-04db), which should be
available in my contrib area by 2200 EST tonight.  These RPMs fix a
few bugs in earlier releases.  The IMP RPM now includes the download
directory, which should resolve problems with opening attachments. 
The e-smith-imp RPM has added the reply_quote parameter to the
template for prefs.php, so replies will quote the original message. 
Finally, the e-smith-turba should now allow you to connect to the
local LDAP server (thanks to Bob Todd for catching a silly error I
made).  Feedback, as always, is appreciated.

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[e-smith-devinfo] ANNOUNCE: New RPMs of IMP, Horde, and Turba available

2003-03-12 Thread Dan Brown
 
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I have built RPMs of Horde 2.2.1, IMP 3.2.1, and Turba 1.2 for SME
5.6; they'll be available in a couple of hours in my contrib area. 
Also available are updated e-smith-horde-1.7.0, e-smith-imp-1.9.0,
and e-smith-turba-1.1.0 (not -1.1) RPMs.  They've been tested a bit
on SME 5.6, not at all on prior versions.  Feedback, as always, is
appreciated.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Devel packages

2003-03-02 Thread Dan Brown
 
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> From: Laurent DINCLAUX [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Is there a place to retrieve these ?

rpmfind.net should help...

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[e-smith-devinfo] ANNOUNCE: IMP 3.2 RPMs available

2003-02-26 Thread Dan Brown
As of last night, RPMs of IMP 3.2 and horde 2.2.1 are available in my
contrib area on ftp.e-smith.org.  I also have an updated e-smith-imp RPM
(1.9.0-01db), because IMP 3.2 wants servers.php to look a little different
than 3.0 and 3.1 did.

Steps to install follow:

* Install the three RPMs (horde, imp, and e-smith-imp)
* /sbin/e-smith/signal-event email-update
* /sbin/e-smith/expand-template /home/httpd/html/horde/config/horde.php
* /sbin/e-smith/expand-template /home/httpd/html/horde/config/registry.php

Apparently the email-update event doesn't expand the horde config
files, hence the last two steps.

These have been tested minimally on 5.6, and not at all on <= 5.5.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] PHP Upgrade...

2003-02-10 Thread Dan Brown

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> From: Peter Riis Mørk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> Has anybody figured out how to upgrade from PHP 4.1.2 to 4.2.2 or
> more, on the SME 5.6 ?

Sure--just install my RPMs of PHP 4.3.0 from my contrib directory on
ftp.e-smith.org.  Be warned, though, that since 4.2.x some of the
PEAR libraries aren't included in the base PHP distribution; you'll
need to install them manually for IMP to work.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] VM WARE

2003-02-09 Thread Dan Brown
 
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> From: Rob Wellesley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> We are trialing VM-Ware for sme dev. Could a Mitel Dev guy help me
> with CTRL-ALT-F2 access to tty when using VM Ware?

It's not CTRL-ALT-F2, it's just ALT-F2.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Central contrib and howto location

2003-02-04 Thread Dan Brown
Quoting Jeff Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> So far, there have been a total of eight comments posted with no
> suggestions as to a solution.  The discussion page centers
> around a number of "requirements".

You're right--we're still working on what we need, before we start
sorting through possible solutions.  Or did you miss those posts last
week?  There is no hurry to implement something, and certainly no reason
to rush into implementing something before we fully understand what we
need to do--that's a sure recipe for frustration and disappointment.

Keep in mind, the number of comments does not accurately reflect
participation in the discussion; often that is done by directly editing
the page (which any participant can do).

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[e-smith-devinfo] Changing MTA

2003-02-04 Thread Dan Brown
Brandon's message from earlier today suggested that qmail might need
replacing, because it's old.  I disagree; as somebody else wrote, if it
ain't broke, don't fix it.

However, I think the imapd could stand a serious look.  Maildir on
wu-imap has always been a bit of a hack, for one thing.  For another, it's
pretty resource-hungry.  Finally, the version in SME 5.6 has at least one
bug, that it doesn't display accurate message counts in any folder until a
client lists messages in that folder (yes, I've already reported this to
bugs@e-smith, and it's confirmed).

Michael Weinberger has built an RPM for courier-imap (which I've
rebuilt with the current version of courier-imap, 1.7.0, and will be
available this evening in my contrib directory on e-smith.org, along with
fam and portmap, which it seems to require).  Courier avoids all three of
these problems, and Michael's RPM does a pretty good job of integrating it
into the SME environment, including converting existing users' mail
folders to the Courier format.

Unlike qmail, there are issues with wu-imap, which it appears that
another daemon (like courier-imap) would solve.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Requirements definition for contrib system

2003-01-29 Thread Dan Brown
Quoting Darrell May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I do not see a need for an all-in-one app solution.  Do you?

I don't suppose it's essential, but it'd be ideal.  An all-in-one app 
would be almost certain to be better integrated than a collection of 
apps.  Even if we do end up needing more than one app, we're in a better 
position to choose apps if we know all our requirements.

Suppose we decide that we need a system that does X, Y, and Z.  We 
could choose separate apps to do each, or we might find one that does X 
and Y, and another to do Z.  We might decide that it's better to have 
separate apps than to combine some of the functions.  We can't do that, 
though, if we don't know what X, Y, and Z are.

What do we gain by leaping into a discussion of possible solutions 
when we don't have a grasp on the problem yet?  We do not need to 
implement anything today, or tomorrow, or even this week.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Requirements definition for contrib system

2003-01-29 Thread Dan Brown
Quoting Darrell May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> The first defined area presented was the need for a central,
> searchable
> contrib database.  LinkBase was provided as a potential solution. 
> Let's
> stick on this one defined topic and see if there exists a better

Darrell, I don't think this is the best way to go about this.  I 
think Charlie's suggestion makes more sense--first define what we need 
and want to do, in total, and then start looking at potential solutions.  
What good does it do to determine that, say, Linkbase does a fantastic 
job of storing a database of links, if we subsequently determine that it 
can't handle something else that's essential?

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] LinkBase or something else? (was Re: Central contrib and howto location)

2003-01-28 Thread Dan Brown
 
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> From: Charlie Brady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> Let's decide what is required/desired, and then see how LinkBase
> and some alternatives stack up against the requirements?

I agree; this certainly seems a prudent idea.  Toward that end, here
are some things that seem necessary/desirable from my perspective:

Necessary:

*   Room to store contributed RPMs and documentation.  This one, as
such, is kind of a no-brainer, and we already have it.

*   Search function.  This would preferably search by name,
contributor, category(ies), and/or keyword.  We don't have this now,
and as I see it, this is the biggest shortcoming of the existing
system.

*   Incorporate material that isn't hosted at
e-smith.org/mitel.com/whatever.  For a variety of reasons,
contributors may prefer to host their own material; for this project
to have maximum value, it should deal with that material as though it
were hosted locally.

Desirable:

*   Self-maintaining.  I, as a contributor, would be able to add a
HOWTO (or RPM) by myself.  This would need some safeguards to avoid
abuse, but I think it would (1) make things more convenient for
contributors, (2) keep the listings more up-to-date, and (3) save
time on Mitel's end.  This should allow adding links as well as
uploading files.

*   Classification.  Distinct from (but related to) searching, this
would categorize items and allow users to filter or browse by
category.  Contributors should be able to assign multiple categories
to an item (ideally an arbitrary number of categories).  Categories
would be fairly specific--at least as much so as the ones currently
used on the contrib HOWTO page.  These could refer to what the item
does (anti-virus, administration, backup, etc.), level of development
(alpha, beta, stable), and/or applicable SME versions.  It might be
better to keep these separate--that is, separate entries for
stability and applicable versions.  Preferably this system would
allow multiple items to be indexed together (e.g., a HOWTO and the
RPMs it refers to).

For contributed RPMs, it seems that rpm2html, or something like it,
would be a big help.  Unfortunately, it seems that development's been
cancelled on it, but it's probably pretty stable already.  The RPM
should already contain a lot of the information people want
(particularly a description of what the thing is), and a tool like
this on Mitel's server would save the contributor from having to
duplicate that effort, or at least give initial values for some of
the blanks.  The output from rpm2html could then be indexed like any
other html document.

The objective of classification points strongly (perhaps
inescapably) toward a database-driven system.  Designing tables to
allow an arbitrary number of categories for any given item would be
pretty straightforward, but doing this without a database would be a
mess.

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[e-smith-devinfo] ANNOUNCE: RPMs of PHP 4.3.0 available

2003-01-26 Thread Dan Brown
 
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For your general amusement and amazement, I have two new sets of PHP
RPMs available for SME Server 5.6.  The first, uploaded to my contrib
area last night, is a set of RPMs for PHP 4.2.3.  The second, which
will be going up tonight and should be available after 10 PM EST, is
4.3.0.  Testing has so far consisted of installing them on a 5.6 box
and making sure the phpinfo page shows the correct version.

Be aware, these will almost certainly break webmail, so only install
them if you know what you're doing.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] RPM building question

2003-01-26 Thread Dan Brown
 
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> for i in i386 i586 i686 athlon
> do
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> done
> rpmbuild -bs spec

Hmmm, sounds pretty lame.  Looks like RH (or whoever else develops
rpm/rpmbuild) dropped the ball in a big way.  Any idea how to get
php-manual to build as .noarch?  Don't expect that will work if the
other won't, but it's always seemed to me that it belongs that way
(after all, there's no binary code in it).

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[e-smith-devinfo] RPM building question

2003-01-25 Thread Dan Brown
 
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OK, this is getting kind of annoying, so hopefully somebody here will
have some idea of what's going on.

I've been building PHP RPMs for a while.  Through RH 7.1, I've been
able to include this line in the spec file:

BuildArchitectures: i386 i586 i686

and it would build for all three archs.  With rh72 and rh73, however,
this doesn't work--it only builds for i386.  Any ideas why this might
be, or even where to start looking for an answer?  Thanks for any
info!

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] HowTos (Was SpamAssassin)

2003-01-25 Thread Dan Brown
 
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> One issue that I have been struggling with in my mind recently is 
> what to do after writing a mini-How-To.

I'd send links to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or is it @e-smith.com?). 
They'll even host them there, if you like, but that's up to you.  I
agree with the other poster, though; too much info is much better
than too little.

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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Virualdomain forwarding..help

2003-01-24 Thread Dan Brown
Quoting w9ya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Um, suggestion: why not offer to send him to the appropriate e-smith
> forum or email list ?

Maybe because he already knows where the appropriate forum is?

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Documentation of 5.6

2003-01-20 Thread Dan Brown
 
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> From: Dan York [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> As the group re-did the 5.6 manual, they also decided to change 
> the license
> to bring it inline with the docs for all other Mitel products so
> that they are consistent across all product lines.  It is now the
> standard copyright and no license to republish that you will find
> with pretty much all corporations out there.

Since this manual is contained on the 5.6u CD, I guess this also
means that we can't make copies of that CD?  Or mirror the ISO?

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Announcing SME Server V5.6 developer release

2003-01-15 Thread Dan Brown
 
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> From: Gordon Rowell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

>   - The Blades web panel has been removed from the server manager
> as we 
> have chosen to focus all blades-related development on our 
> commercially
> supported products. Updates to this developer release will
> continue  

So, just to make sure I understand this clearly:  In spite of
everything you've (plural, not you in particular, Gordon)
consistsently told us for over a year, there will _not_ be a
mechanism for community-developed, unsupported blades?  This is
somewhat disappointing, in light of the clear, unequivocal, and
repeated statements that such a mechanism would exist, and would soon
be well-documented.  I can understand a number of reasons why you
might make such a decision, but the reversal is somewhat troublesome.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Root access

2002-12-21 Thread Dan Brown
 
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> From: Paul Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> Anyway I was wondering if somehow it was possible to SSH into SME
> and gain root access.

1.  This isn't even remotely a development issue, so it doesn't belong
on devinfo.

2.      RT*M.

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Re: Re[4]: [e-smith-devinfo] GD ?

2002-12-11 Thread Dan Brown
Quoting Haj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I confirm that Arvin's RPMs work very well on 5.6  :-)
> What do you mean by 'confusing' ?

The biggest issue that I'm aware of is that RedHat's 'php' contains
Arvin's 'php' and 'php-standalone'.  This makes switching from one to the
other more involved than just "rpm -Uvh ".  There may be other
issues as well.

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Re: Re[2]: [e-smith-devinfo] GD ?

2002-12-11 Thread Dan Brown
Quoting Haj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> The latest php versions I have found are on Troels Arvin web site
> http://rpms.arvin.dk/ . Work well on a 5.6 box.

Apparently you haven't looked in my contrib directory recently; I have
RPMs of PHP 4.2.3 for SME 5.5.  Haven't build them for 5.6 though, and
don't plan on it until it's released.  I'd been using and recommending
Arvin's RPMs for quite a while, but they're different enough from standard
RH that they can get confusing on SME.

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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] GD ?

2002-12-11 Thread Dan Brown
 On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 11:11:24AM -0500, Peter Samuel
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> We ship gd-1.8.4-4 with 5.6. However, that just gives you the shared
> libraries. What you are after is php-gd which we do not ship. I don't
> know why we don't ship it.

Actually, it may be included with the php package now.  I know it is
with my 4.2.1 packages, but I'm not sure how far back that inclusion goes.
 To the original poster, take a look at a phpinfo page and see if gd
support is included--I think it probably is.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] replying to list

2002-11-02 Thread Dan Brown
 
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> From: Togan Muftuoglu [mailto:toganm@;users.sourceforge.net]

> Thanks but I would appreciate if you just send a reply to the list
> so I  

Unlike some mailing lists, this one does not automatically set the
Reply-To: header to send replies to the list.  The reasons for this
are stated at http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html.  The
result of this is that when somebody replies to a message, the reply
goes only to the original sender.  To reply to the list, the easiest
way is to use the "reply all" feature of most MUAs, which usually
sends a copy to the original sender, as well as to the list.  Sending
only to the list requires manually editing the to: field on the
reply.

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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] devfino - where is it going?

2002-11-01 Thread Dan Brown
Quoting Nick Ramsay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> No doubt Mitel had good reasons to change to mailfront, but the fact 
> remains that it is less capapble than obtuse-smtpd in some important 

Obtuse was mangling and/or losing messages under some circumstances;
mailfront doesn't.  Between spam blocking and reliable mail delivery, I'll
pick reliability every time, and that seems to be the decision they made.
 Since then, they've funded development of the missing feature in
mailfront, as they've repeatedly stated right here.  No, it's not in
5.5--but it will be in 5.6.

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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Port opening contrib (was Re: Server and Gateway?)

2002-09-20 Thread Dan Brown

Quoting Charlie Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Just "opening" ports on the firewall, OTOH, does help your problem of 
> servers/clients behind the firewall. Your posting just emphasises my

Did you mean to say "does not" here, or am I misunderstanding things?

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Compil PHP as cgi

2002-09-18 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> I want to log in ssh as haj to test if it can't execute a script
> thought /etc/httpd/conf/vhosts/mySite.com/php-bin/php.
> 
> How can I enable ssh access to  a user other than root or admin ?

This isn't at all a development issue, but a search of the forums
should find the answer to this one (it's been covered many times).

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Compil PHP as cgi

2002-09-11 Thread Dan Brown

 
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>   I really nead to compil php in cgi mode on a e-smith 5.5.
>   In fact I get many errors when runing  ./configure

Dunno why you'd prefer CGI mode to the apache module, but it appears
to already be there--the PHP interpreter can be found at
/usr/bin/php.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Internet news groups

2002-09-08 Thread Dan Brown


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> From: James Redfern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> ¦ We have no plans to implement news groups (FYI qmail is a mail
> server  ¦ and would not be involved in news).
>
> Thanks for your informative answer.  I will just have to continue
> running my news server on a Win2K host on the LAN and forward port
> 119 to it.

FWIW, there is a howto on installing leafnode on your SME server
that works quite nicely, but may not do exactly what you're wanting
to do.  Leafnode will connect to a specified NNTP server (or servers)
and pull new articles in groups that have seen recent activity on
your server (that is, somebody's read them in the last week or so).
It then would be your NNTP server for your LAN.  It's pretty much
self-maintaining, as long as nobody starts reading
alt.binaries.whatever (if they do, hope you've got an OC12 or more).
However, I don't believe it yet supports local newsgroups (though I
believe it's being worked on).

> ¦ > Also, is Webmin at http://www.webmin.com/ a useful tool for
> e-smith or ¦ > will it break it?
> ¦
> ¦ http://www.e-smith.org/faq/#8q15
>
> That's the answer I expected, but apparently others in here have
> tried it with acceptable results.

If you use webmin to modify something that isn't directly controlled
by the SME server (most MySQL stuff, for example), those changes
wouldn't be overwritten by SME.  However, if you use it to make
changes to, say, your apache configuration, those changes will be
lost the next time you make any changes using the SME interface.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] IMP in 5.5, can one "leave copy of email on server"?

2002-08-15 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Bob Meyers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> Is there an option or config switch that will permit users to
> remotely check email with IMP, but keep same read messages on
> server for

Sure, it's called "not deleting the messages while in IMP".  Might
want to suggest that users use IMAP instead of POP in the office;
that way they'll get the same inbox/folders in the office as they get
with IMP.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] [Announce] SME Server V5 version 5.6alpha

2002-08-08 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Charlie Brady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> You wanted it! Here it is!

I assume here:

ftp://ftp.e-smith.org/pub/e-smith/dev/5.6dev/iso/

?

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] ANNOUNCE: PHP 4.2.2 RPMs available

2002-07-25 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Haj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> [root@e-smith dan]# rpm -Uvh php-pgsql-4.2.2-1db_rh72.i386.rpm
> error: failed dependencies:
> postgresql is needed by php-pgsql-4.2.2-1db_rh72
> libpq.so.2   is needed by php-pgsql-4.2.2-1db_rh72

Sounds like you don't have postgresql installed.

> I am curious to know What are the differnces between your rpms 
> and Arvin's ?

Mine are built from a pretty much unmodified redhat .spec file, use
the same package names, and hopefully will cause less trouble when
upgrading (php and mod_php are separate in his RPMs, not in mine,
etc.).

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[e-smith-devinfo] ANNOUNCE: PHP 4.2.2 RPMs available

2002-07-24 Thread Dan Brown

For those who are using my (or other) PHP 4.2.1 RPMs, I've released 
RPMs of PHP 4.2.2 to address the security vulnerability.  They are in my 
contrib directory on ftp.e-smith.org.  Currently, I only have i386 RPMs 
available for SME 5.5 (they're tagged _rh72 in the release number), but I 
have all archs available for SME 5.1.2.  These are COMPLETELY UNTESTED, 
but built from the same spec file as previous versions, which worked fine.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] ANNOUNCE: PHP 4.2.1 for SME 5.5 available

2002-07-23 Thread Dan Brown

Quoting David Erdman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Just curious, on the php rpms you build.  What are the differences
> between those and the stock redhat rpms

The only difference is that they're much more current.  I'm taking a 
Redhat spec file and using it to build an RPM with a much more current 
PHP source.  So yes, it should work on a stock redhat box, but I haven't 
tested it at all to know for sure.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] ANNOUNCE: PHP 4.2.1 for SME 5.5 available

2002-07-22 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Haj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> It will be good to upgrade them to 4.2.2 because of security fix
> and as Arvin says:

Working on it now; I'll have them done for SME 5.1.2 first.  I'll
post when they're available on ftp.e-smith.org.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Slashcode

2002-07-22 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Greg J. Zartman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> see what they are actually doing.  Take this site for
> example  I  have no idea what slashcode is.  If you goto
> slashcode.com, and look at   

If I'm not mistaken, slashcode.com runs on slashcode (as does
slashdot).  So, it's sort of a live demo site.

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[e-smith-devinfo] ANNOUNCE: PHP 4.2.1 for SME 5.5 available

2002-07-12 Thread Dan Brown

 
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For those who want them, I now have PHP 4.2.1 RPMs (release -3db)
available in my contrib area on ftp.e-smith.org built under RedHat
7.2.  These should work on SME 5.5, but as yet are COMPLETELY
UNTESTED.  At the moment only i386 is available.  As always, any
feedback is appreciated.

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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] ANNOUNCE: php-4.2.1-2db RPMs available

2002-07-10 Thread Dan Brown

Quoting Haj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Anyone have tested it on SME5.5? Me, I get:
> 
> error: failed dependencies:
> libcrypto.so.1   is needed by php-4.2.1-2db
> libssl.so.1   is needed by php-4.2.1-2db

SME 5.5 is built with openssl 0.9.6b, not 0.9.6.  The PHP packages 
will need to be rebuilt on a RH 7.2 machine.  I'll get around to this 
when I have time to set up a RH 7.2 development box.

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[e-smith-devinfo] ANNOUNCE: php-4.2.1-2db RPMs available

2002-06-23 Thread Dan Brown

 
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Following the example from rpms.arvin.dk, I've build a set of PHP
4.2.1 RPMs that include the Log class from the PEAR libraries.  This
should allow IMP 3.x (and any other recent Horde applications) to
operate without some of the error messages seen in the -1db release. 
These work fine on my 5.1.2 machine as far as I can see, but
additional feedback would be appreciated.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Missing /dev/nst0 (RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Emergency restore options)

2002-06-10 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Charlie Brady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> As you've noted later, /dev/nst0 does exist. However, if you've
> installed  a SCSI host adaptor after you've installed your system,
> there will be   

The context was trying to restore a system in an automated fashion,
following your suggestion (a few months ago) to try adding a few
commands to the ks.cfg file on a reinstallation floppy.  Run a tape
backup, create a reinstall floppy, edit the ks.cfg file on that
floppy, then drop in a new hdd and boot from the floppy.  The
installer detects the SCSI card (an Adaptec 2940UW) just fine, says
it's loading the driver for the card, and installs everything from
the 5.5b9 CD.  When it gets to the post-install configuration, the
errors I posted previously come up on one of the virtual consoles.

The commands I'd added at the bottom of ks.cfg were:

mknod /dev/nst0 c 9 128

cd /
/bin/mt -f /dev/nst0 rewind
/bin/mt -f /dev/nst0 fsf 1
/usr/bin/flexbackup -extract
/bin/mt -f /dev/nst0 rewind

/sbin/e-smith/signal-event post-restore

I could add a modprobe, I guess, but it sounds like that module
should already be loaded.  Any other ideas of things to try?  Thanks
for the info!

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Emergency restore options

2002-06-10 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Darrell May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> Hi Dan, this thread is very old.  After numerous attempts at making
> this work, I couldn't.

Yeah, I know it's an old one--I'd expected to be getting a tape
drive to mess with a lot sooner, but it didn't quite work out that
way.  I'm sure there must be a way to do this, but it sounds like
it's more complicated than it looks at first.  Mondo seems to be
pretty stable by now, though, and it would pretty well do the trick
(it just isn't the e-smith backup by default).

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Emergency restore options

2002-06-09 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Dan Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> 1./dev/nst0 doesn't exist.  I guess the solution would be to
> /bin/mknod /dev/nst0 c 9 128 (the 9 and 128 coming from /dev/nst0
> on a live system) before starting any of the other operations.

Apparently I guessed wrong:

/bin/mknod: '/dev/nst0': file exists
/dev/nst0: No such device
/dev/nst0: No such device

flexbackup version 0.9.8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
/etc/flexbackup.conf syntax OK

Errors:
 afio not found in $PATH
 rsh not found in $PATH
/dev/nst0: No such device
Can't open directory /etc/e-smith/events/post-restore

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Emergency restore options

2002-06-09 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Darrell May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> An excellent idea Charlie!  Dan, (or anyone else able to test) if
> you would, try adding these lines to the end of the ks.cfg file on
> the reinstallation disk:
> 
> cd /
> /bin/mt -f /dev/nst0 rewind
> /bin/mt -f /dev/nst0 fsf 1
> /usr/bin/flexbackup -extract
> /bin/mt -f /dev/nst0 rewind

Finally got a tape drive to play with, so I gave this a try on a
5.5b9 box.  Had a few problems; not quite sure what to do about them:

1.  /dev/nst0 doesn't exist.  I guess the solution would be to
/bin/mknod /dev/nst0 c 9 128 (the 9 and 128 coming from /dev/nst0 on
a live system) before starting any of the other operations.

2.  Can't find afio and rsh in $PATH.  Not sure why it needs them, but
it appears to be flexbackup complaining about this.  These don't
appear to be installed by default.  The tape restore from the web
manager appears to work properly, so I'm a little confused as to why
this would be coming up here, unless that's somehow related to the
missing /dev/nst0.

3.  Can't signal-event post-restore (sorry, didn't write down the
error message for this one).  Probably less significant than the
first two, though.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] ANNOUNCE: e-smith-imp 1.6.6 available

2002-06-06 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Alejandro Lengua - Virtual Orbis

> I wonder if this runs on the new e-smith 5.5b9...

No, it doesn't.  Once 5.5 is released, I'll get an e-smith-imp
package released that works with it.  IMP 3.1 as I've packaged it
will work on 5.5b4 (and presumably b9), but the new features in the
config files won't be supported.

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[e-smith-devinfo] ANNOUNCE: e-smith-imp 1.6.6 available

2002-06-06 Thread Dan Brown

 
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To complement the IMP 3.1 RC3 RPM I posted a couple of days ago,
I've updated e-smith-imp to version 1.6.6 to incorporate the new
configuration options available with IMP 3.1.  Because IMP 3.1 is
still in RC status, I'd classify both of these as Beta, but they seem
to work fine on my machine.  They're available in my contrib area on
ftp.e-smith.org.  Feedback is always appreciated.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] 5.5b9 rsync

2002-06-06 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Darrell May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> http://myezserver.com/downloads/mitel/howto/rsync-howto.html

Exactly what I was looking for, thanks!

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[e-smith-devinfo] 5.5b9 rsync

2002-06-06 Thread Dan Brown

 
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I have 5.5b4, and would like to test out 5.5b9.  The instructions I
found on e-smith.org don't seem to work (maybe they're only for
release versions, not betas).  What's the best way to rsync from
5.5b4 to b9?  Thanks!

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Re: mailfront conversion (was Re:

2002-06-03 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Jeff Coleman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> I agree with everything you have said here although there is
> certainly more than one contrib/internal development project
> obsoleted by the new rev.

Speaking as somebody who has had a few of his contrib projects
obsoleted, that's not entirely a bad thing.  I was quite happy to see
IMP included, for example, as it meant I didn't have to be supporting
everybody who tried to install it; I could just tell them to upgrade
to 4.1.2 (same with IMP 3.0 in 5.5b4, except that it's about time to
do a 3.1 upgrade).

Of course, the issue here isn't that the new version includes
equivalent functionality to Darrell's contrib; it's that it
apparently makes it impossible to do what Darrell was trying to do
(at least, impossible without some major redesign of the mail
system).  This is unfortunate, as that contrib makes the mail system
operate much more like the way it should (which is to bounce mail for
invalid users at the front door, rather than accepting it and then
generating a bounce locally).

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Anyone know python?

2002-06-03 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Dan Brown wrote:
> >  In any case,
> > there's a howto up on installing phpbb2. 
> 
> you mean for SME? I can't find it Dan.

http://www.familybrown.org/howtos/phpbb2-howto.html

It is linked from the contrib howto page.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Anyone know python?

2002-06-03 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Dub Dublin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> on.  Given how well Phorum works, I've been a little surprised 
> it's not part of the "standard" SME environment,

Interesting--I don't much like Phorum; I find the interface of
(e.g.) phpBB2 much cleaner.  Don't know about an e-mail gateway,
though--it's possible for phpbb to mail new messages to you if you
like, but I don't know of a bidirectional gateway.  In any case,
there's a howto up on installing phpbb2.  I agree that some sort of
discussion board system would be nice to have, but I'm not sure that
it necessarily needs to be included in the stock distro.

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[e-smith-devinfo] ANNOUNCE: IMP 3.1RC3 RPM available

2002-06-02 Thread Dan Brown

 
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By popular demand, I've built an RPM of IMP 3.1RC3.  It's currently
in the updates directory on my server, and will be mirrored to
e-smith.org tomorrow night.  Testing so far as been EXTREMELY minimal
(I installed it on a 5.5b4 machine and was able to log in without
errors), but it appears to work with the stock e-smith-imp RPM for
5.5b4, and should thus probably work with my e-smith-imp RPM for
5.1.2.  However, a new e-smith-imp RPM should really be built
incorporating some of the new configuration options; I'll see if I
can get to that tomorrow.

IMP 3.1 will work with horde >= 2.0 and turba >= 1.0, so I haven't
yet built RPMs of horde 2.1rc3 or turba 1.1rc3.

As always, feedback is appreciated.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Vpop and Virtual domains

2002-06-02 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Darrell May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> I agree SME falls short on effective virtual domain e-mail 
> support.  What is
> surprising is qmail is very effective at this, it is just the
> unique SME implementation of qmail that makes this difficult.

Agreed, but keep in mind that SME isn't just a mail server, nor just
a web or FTP server.  It's also a file server, and Samba doesn't
support multiple namespaces AFAIK.  It results in a compromise
between SME's capabilities as an intranet server and its capabilities
as an internet server.

> I see in 5.5B4 that now all domains are treated as virtual.  Mitel
> has not mentioned why they made this change or what their plans
> are.

Where do you see this?  When I go to the "virtual domains" panel on
my 5.5b4 machine (on which I've configured no virtual domains), it
reports that there are none.  It'd be nice if it did this, if for no
other reason than that it would allow you to use any ibay to serve
your main web site (and thus it could be edited by anybody you
wished).

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] RPM's: noarch or i386

2002-06-01 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Jon Blakely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

>   Is it better to build RPM's for SME as .noarch or .i386 and 
> what is the
> difference. My understanding was that .noarch would work for all
> types and spec processors.  The reason I ask is that a user has
> installed my Jabber  

That's about right.  Generally, .noarch would be used for stuff that
isn't binaries (for example, horde and IMP, since they're just
platform-independent PHP scripts).  Binaries, actual executable code
compiled for a particular processor, would be tagged for that
processor, as with .i386.  Code for i386 should also run on i[456]86.
 If, in the compiling process, you built code that's specific to,
say, i686, and you're trying to run it on i486, you might have
problems.

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[e-smith-devinfo] ANNOUNCE: familybrown.org down for a few hours tonight

2002-05-29 Thread Dan Brown

Due to some changes with my ISP, familybrown.org will be down for a 
few hours tonight, probably between 2300 and 0400 EDT.  Hope this isn't a 
great inconvenience for anybody (I doubt it).

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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] IMP 3.0 problems

2002-05-28 Thread Dan Brown

Quoting Richard Fleming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 1) Save as draft - displays an error message saying it
> couldn't be saved (although if you then check the
> drafts folder it has worked.
> 
> 2) In the Drafts folder, there is no way to continue
> editing a draft message in order to then send it. 
> Apparently there is meant to be a link to allow
> the user to continue editing the draft message.

Interesting--I hadn't noticed these before because I don't save 
drafts with any regularity, but the same thing happened for me.  I know 
I've seen a "resume" link on draft messages before, but I'm not sure 
where it would have gone.

> 3) Is there an easy way for users to pick addresses
> whilst composing an e-mail? There don't appear to be
> any links to the address book.

You're looking for the "Expand Names" button.  Type in part of the 
name or address, then click on that button.  If only one address matches, 
it'll fill in; if more than one matches, you'll get a drop-down list with 
all the matching ones.

> 4) We often get timeouts whilst using the web
> interface, is there a way toimprove/cater for this?

No idea on this, but PHP and MySQL do take some additional system 
resources; is the server running on a terribly low-end machine?

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[e-smith-devinfo] Blades?

2002-05-25 Thread Dan Brown

 
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OK, so we know (or at least, have been told) that a blade is simply
a .noarch.rpm with a set of strict dependencies for the packages that
need to be installed.  We have the .src.rpm files for the existing
"official" blades.  And really, that's about all we have.  Obviously,
there's at least one critical step missing: where do they go?

The blades panel has been in the product since version 5.0, and it's
had a space for "unsupported" blades since day 1.  We still don't
have any way to provide contributed blades.  We probably have enough
information to make one, but no way of getting it out to the world. 
Mitel guys, you've been saying for quite some time (about since day
1, if memory serves) that documentation is on the way.  I understand
that projects which directly generate revenue take priority, but it
seems by now there could have been at least a brief tip sheet.  In
particular, I haven't seen any answer to the question, "I've built a
blade, now what?"

How do you plan to handle unsupported blades?  What does a developer
need to do to get his package listed there?  It's your call in any
case, of course, but I think these questions merit answers.  If you
have no plans to deal with unsupported blades, maybe it'd be better
to remove that part of the panel.

Thanks for your attention.

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[e-smith-devinfo] ANNOUNCE: dcb-e-smith-* is now e-smith-*dcb

2002-05-25 Thread Dan Brown

 
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To be consistent with Mitel naming practices, and allow for simpler
upgrades, I've changed the names of my dcb-e-smith-* packages to
e-smith--dcb-.  The new files have been
uploaded to my contrib area on e-smith.org, and are set to obsolete
the dcb-e-smith-* ones.  My IMP upgrade HOWTO, the only one which
depended on any of these RPMs, has been updated accordingly.

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[e-smith-devinfo] New dcb-e-smith-horde RPM available

2002-05-24 Thread Dan Brown

 
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I've placed a new version of my dcb-e-smith-horde RPM (release 5) up
on familybrown.org, to be mirrored on e-smith.org within an hour or
so.  It corrects an error in the horde.php configuration file, which
was made visible with PHP 4.2.1.  This is a recommended upgrade.

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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Installing procmail

2002-05-14 Thread Dan Brown

Quoting Brandon Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> But how do you use procmaillet me guess RTFM?

Well, there's a bit of RTFM (or STFW) involved, but there are RPMs 
which smooth the process a bit.  My system has a dmc-mitel-procmail-0.0.1-
2 RPM installed, but I don't find that now on myezserver.com; maybe 
Darrell's updated it and changed the name.  Try taking a look at this:

http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/dungog/sme/howto/procmail.html

for a howto linked from the e-smith contributed howtos list.

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[e-smith-devinfo] ANNOUNCE: PHP 4.2.1 RPMs available

2002-05-14 Thread Dan Brown

 
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I have RPMs of PHP 4.2.1 available in my contrib area on
e-smith.org.  They install and run on my SME 5.1.2 server, but I
can't make any guarantees about yours.

WARNING: These RPMs DO cause problems with IMP 3.0, at least on my
machine.  Haven't had much time to try to track them down yet.  I
wouldn't install these on a production machine at this point.  Any
feedback would be appreciated.

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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Changing SSL certificate info

2002-05-10 Thread Dan Brown

Quoting Brandon Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I know how to regenerate the SSL cert for server.
> 
> Is there an easy way to change the info...

To change the info, you need to build a new cert.  The only way I 
know of to do that is either by running openssl by hand or by using 
scripts to handle it--I use the ssl.ca scripts I found lying around a 
while back.

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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] GPL Licence

2002-05-07 Thread Dan Brown

Quoting Brandon Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Another question - when you publish an RPM, where do you stipulate that
> it is under the GPL? On the page you download from? or in the .spec
> file?

Definitely in the .spec file (I believe it's the "License" tag), but 
on the download page wouldn't hurt either.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] RPM Building and Source Questions

2002-05-06 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Brandon Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> Perhaps I should contact Sherpath and let them know I have made an
> rpm?  

It's not required, but I think it's generally considered good form
to do so.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] RPM Building and Source Questions

2002-05-06 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Brandon Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> I downloaded a few src rpm from different developers what is
> the GPL  issue involved? Do I have to send my changes to the
> author?
> 
> I used their spec files as a base to build my own RPMS?

With the caveat that this is not legal advice, etc., you are not
required by the GPL to send your changes to the author as such. 
However, you must make source (including the spec file) available to
anybody you give a binary to.  Also, any derivative work must itself
be licensed under the GPL.

Now, as a practical matter, I've sent suggestions on changes I've
made to the horde/IMP spec files to the maintainer of those RPMs. 
Those changes made it easier for me to modify them to build
e-smith-compliant RPMs, and also would have made it easier for
anybody else who wanted to customize things like document locations. 
I wasn't required to do that, but it made everybody's life a bit
easier (including mine).

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[e-smith-devinfo] FW: How to build yourself an e-smith interface RPM

2002-05-06 Thread Dan Brown

 
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Charlie sent this out to the list a while ago, but it sounds like
there might be some interest in seeing it again.  Hope it helps...

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- -Original Message-
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I'm working on some additional documentation so that you can "move up
the
food chain" and turn your customisation into an RPM that other people
can
use.  Here is a draft:

[Step zero - configure your personal RPM environment

# make yourself an RPM playpen - doing things this way means you
don't
# have to be root to build things.

 mkdir -p rpms/{SRPMS,BUILD,SPECS,RPMS,lib}
 mkdir -p rpms/RPMS/{i386,noarch}
 rpm --initdb --dbpath ~/rpms/lib

# configure rpm to use this playpen
 echo "%_topdir $HOME/rpms" > ~/.rpmmacros
]

* Install a skeletal e-smith package:

 rpm -iv ftp://ftp.e-smith.net/pub/e-smith/contrib/\
   charlieb/SRPMS/e-smith-skel-0.1-1.src.rpm

* Make yourself a new RPM spec file:

 cd ~/rpms/SPEC
 mv e-smith-skel.spec e-smith-mypackage.spec

* Make yourself a workspace to develop your code in:

 rpm -bp e-smith-mypackage.spec
 cd ../BUILD
 mv e-smith-skel-0.1 e-smith-mypackage-0.1

* Make your changes to the skeletal package

 # edit the spec file
 # Change all or some of Summary, %define name, %changelog,
 # %description, %pre, %preun, %post
 # Add to Requires the name of the package that you are configuring
 vi ../SPEC/e-smith-mypackage.spec
 
 # Create e-smith-mypackage-0.1/root/etc/e-smith/templates/foo/bar
 # for each template you need
 # Create e-smith-mypackage-0.1/root/etc/e-smith/events/actions/fred
 # for each action that you need
 # Create directories
e-smith-mypackage-0.1/root/etc/e-smith/events/
 # for each event that your actions need to be performed for

 # Edit the creatlinks program to create the symlinks you require to
 # associate each of your actions with all of the events it need to
be
 # run for 
 vi e-smith-mypackage-0.1/createlinks

 # Create e-smith-mypackage-0.1/root/etc/e-smith/web/functions/blah
 # for each new screen that will be part of the e-smith-manager or
other
 # panel
 # Edit the creatlinks program to create the symlinks you require to
 # attach these web screens to the manager or other panel
 vi e-smith-mypackage-0.1/createlinks

* Make a tarball of your package:

 tar zcvf ../SOURCES/e-smith-mypackage-0.1.tar.gz
e-smith-mypackage-0.1

* Build new binary and source RPMS:

 rpm -ba ../SPEC/e-smith-mypackage.spec

* Post your RPMs to your ftp site, and tell the world

* Start testing your RPMs before your mailbox fills up

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Indexer for How-to

2002-05-06 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Brandon Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> I see a few people using some sort of generic indexer for their
> how-to  sites (Darrell May, Dan Brown)

The one I'm using is the lophty directory indexer by Brian Donvan. 
The indexer.tgz file in my howtos directory has all you'll need.  I'm
not thrilled with it (I wish it did real alpha sort, for one), but it
looks a lot better than the Apache default.  Maybe some day I'll find
a better one...

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Snort / Acid howto and contrib module - help required.

2002-04-25 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Thor Anthrax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> When people change their MySQL password, they put it also in 

People shouldn't be changing their MySQL password.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] certificates

2002-04-24 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Kees Vonk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> Can I regenerate and sign my own certificates on SME 5.1.2? And 
> if so, how do I do that.

Yes, you can.  I don't know the steps off the top of my head, but
you'll use openssl to do it, and there are docs out there explaining
how.  Or, use a helper program like ssl.ca (just a set of scripts to
make the process a bit easier).  Don't remember where I got it, but a
Google search should pick it up.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Drafting Securing Web-Apps Howto....Questions?

2002-04-17 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Brandon Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> 2. .htaccess control - Is this required?

I'd tend to say no--anything you'd want to do in an .htaccess file
can be done in the template fragment you need to create anyway. 
However, the fragment I posted for Gallery does allow for a limited
application of an .htaccess file.  The main reason for this is to
keep the setup pages from complaining that it didn't work.

> 3. Directory ownership - Who should be the owner of this directory?
> www  or root:shared? Why?

The question also applies to files contained in the directory.  I'm
really not sure.  I'm still inclined to say www:www, but Darrell has
pointed out that this would allow a malicious PHP script (or,
presumably, a malicious CGI) to overwrite any files with that
ownership.  Maybe if the files aren't owner-writable?

> 4. Access right? - chmod ? 755 should be ok?

For the directory; and for the files 644 (though wrt the above,
maybe 444 would be better).

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Securing Web-based Apps

2002-04-16 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Ari Novikoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> AFAIK, the root MySQL password -is- relatively safe... but it 
> still wouldn't 
> hurt to create a dummy user with basic permissions to use for MySQL
>  applications. 

The MySQL root password is probably about as safe as you're ever
likely to see-- it's 76 at least semi-random characters (don't know
if it's generated using a crypto-grade PNRG, but it's a lot more
random than English text in any case), which is assuredly more secure
than any password you or I would think up off the tops of our
collective heads.  The problem comes with using that password too
freely--it's possible (especially if the app in question has a
security flaw) that the DB password for an app could be compromised. 
If that password happens to be your root password, the attacker now
has the ability to do anything he likes to any of your databases.  If
it's the password of a user created just for that app, however, he
can only hose that app's database.

This is why I wrote my "How to change the MySQL root password" HOWTO
at http://www.familybrown.org/howtos/mysql-password-howto.html (which
is really a how-not-to, and which was meant seriously, in spite of
being posted on April 1).

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Securing Web-based Apps

2002-04-16 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Brandon Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> I was looking to see if any one written a general howto for
> securing web  based application on SME (particularly php and mysql
> driven apps)?  

Not that I know of; sounds like a good idea.

> Things like setting up a mysql database and NOT using root as the
> owner!  

Very good idea--you could link to my HOW-NOT-TO if you like...  (-: 
Each app really should have its own DB user.

> SSL, configuring I-Bays (should we use I-Bays for that 
> matter),.htaccess, mysql security! etc...

As Ari posted, the tendency seems to be placing those apps outside
of the web root.  IIRC (not at all guaranteed), it was Charlie who
suggested that I-Bays weren't really the right vehicle for this sort
of thing.  I don't recall the reasons given at the time, but here are
a few that occur to me:

*   Ability to specify anything you want in httpd.conf for your app. 
My "advanced settings" HOWTO allows for a bit of flexibility, but
it's still pretty limited.  Most of the advantages flow from this
capability.  You can lock out config files, require SSL, require
authentication, etc.

*   Doesn't expose the app as a share on the LAN.

I suppose the files could go anywhere; somebody (probably either
Charlie or Darrell) started putting stuff in /opt, and I figured that
was as good a place as any, so I did the same.  They shouldn't be
only root-readable, as www needs to be able to read them as well.  I
figure having them owned by www:www should work, but it may not be
the best solution either.

As for general things, my Gallery and phpBB HOWTOs illustrate my
general method.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] How to administer your E-Smith/Mitel SME server using PuTTY

2002-04-15 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Graeme Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> Not that we ever use the root account for remote administering do
> we?

To remotely log in as root?  No; I connect as a user and then su.

> One of the first things you will do in setting up a server is
> create a user account for yourself, set the shell for your account
> to /bin/bash and then give your account equivalent root sudo
> privileges in /etc/sudoers.  

I'd agree with the first two steps, but the third seems like you'd
be back to the equivalent of just logging in as root.  A little
better, I guess, as an attacker would need to know what accout to try
to crack, but once they're in, it's just a matter of 'sudo rm -rf /".
 If you have to su, you also need the root password.  Of course, it's
entirely possible I'm missing something.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] How to administer your E-Smith/Mitel SME server using PuTTY

2002-04-14 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Togan Muftuoglu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> 2) Passwords should not be sent clear use of public keys would be
> better  

Even when using standard password authentication, the passwords are
not sent in clear text--the whole channel is encrypted.  Yeah, a
public key would be more secure, but if your passwords are robust,
this shouldn't really be a problem.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] external e-smith-manager access

2002-04-12 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Jason Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> Definitely one of my personal favourite features which is one of
> the first things I do on a fresh install :>

Any chance of expanding this feature to allow for separate IP ranges
for the password page and the server manager?  Seems like should be a
relatively straightforward change (he says, without looking at the
templates).

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[e-smith-devinfo] Blade Attempt: IMP 3.0

2002-04-09 Thread Dan Brown

I've uploaded my first attempt at building a blade to my server.  The 
URL is:

http://www.familybrown.org/updates/RPMS/noarch/IMP_Blade-3.0-01.noarch.rpm

http://www.familybrown.org/updates/SRPMS/IMP_Blade-3.0-01.src.rpm

I'm basing this on what I can figure out from the Update1 blade.  It 
seems too simple, but I've followed the same format.  Any feedback on 
this would, as always, be greatly appreciated.

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FW: [e-smith-devinfo] ANNOUNCE: HOWTO for phpBB 2.0

2002-04-08 Thread Dan Brown

 
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Sorry to follow up to my original post, but I've made a few updates
to this HOWTO, including a security fix, and a bug fix for users
upgrading from a previous version.  You might want to take another
look at it if you've followed the earlier version.

- -Original Message-----
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To: e-smith devinfo
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Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] ANNOUNCE: HOWTO for phpBB 2.0

I've written a brief HOWTO on installing phpBB 2.0 on an SME server.
 I've tested it (sort of) on 2 SME 5.1.2 machines running PHP 4.1.2,
but I can't see any reason it shouldn't work on any version >= 4.1.2,
without any PHP upgrade required.  Testing on this point would be
appreciated.  The HOWTO is at

http://www.familybrown.org/howtos/phpbb2-howto.html

If you're interested in seeing what it looks like, take a look at my
forum at http://www.familybrown.org/phpBB2/index.php.

As always, feedback is appreciated.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Mail relay.

2002-04-08 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Gordon Rowell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> This still opens you to being a relay. If I know you have
> dmay@yoursite,  I can send mail as dmay@yoursite to anyone in the
> world courtesy of your mail server.

I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I don't remember ever
seeing a resolution: would it be possible to implement authenticated
SMTP, or at least POP-before-SMTP, on SME?  If I understand the
system correctly, it'd need to be handled by Obtuse, not qmail,
right?  This capability seems to be one that a lot of people are
asking for.

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[e-smith-devinfo] ANNOUNCE: HOWTO for phpBB 2.0

2002-04-07 Thread Dan Brown

 
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I've written a brief HOWTO on installing phpBB 2.0 on an SME server.
 I've tested it (sort of) on 2 SME 5.1.2 machines running PHP 4.1.2,
but I can't see any reason it shouldn't work on any version >= 4.1.2,
without any PHP upgrade required.  Testing on this point would be
appreciated.  The HOWTO is at

http://www.familybrown.org/howtos/phpbb2-howto.html

If you're interested in seeing what it looks like, take a look at my
forum at http://www.familybrown.org/phpBB2/index.php.

As always, feedback is appreciated.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] New HOWTO re: changing MySQL root password

2002-04-01 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: Darrell May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> It is entirely correct and the first Don't_HowTo I've seen ;->

Sometimes those are needed too, of course...  BTW, if you (or
anybody else) can think of any other reasons why somebody would think
they need to change the password, let me know so I can add them.

> Maybe you should add something like the script below to complete 

I think something like that script would be overkill for this
HOW(not)TO, as it really goes beyond the scope of the document.  The
idea is great as part of a post-install script for an RPM (though I
prefer to use the mysql.init service), though.  I have, though, added
some information on adding a new MySQL user to the document, which
may prove useful.

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[e-smith-devinfo] New HOWTO re: changing MySQL root password

2002-04-01 Thread Dan Brown

 
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I've written a brief how-to on changing the MySQL root password. 
Feedback is, as always, appreciated:

http://www.familybrown.org/howtos/mysql-password-howto.html

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Moving user files to a second disk on the 2.4.x Kernel

2002-04-01 Thread Dan Brown

 
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> From: David Fowler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> When I try
> to logon to the main website, I get an error HTTP 403 (Forbidden) 

I think FollowSymLinks is turned off by default in Apache, which
would cause this.

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