[freenet-dev] Can't edit new-wiki

[Ian Clarke]

Sorry for the slow reply Steve, but that would be great!  You've been
around for a while which is good, but would you mind emailing me
off-list with some background info, just for security's sake?

I assume you are comfortable with Ubuntu?

Matthew, what do you think are good next steps to get Steve
up-to-snuff with our infrastructure?

Ian.

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Steve Dougherty  wrote:
> I'd like to offer my assistance as a sysadmin.
>
> On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Matthew Toseland
>  wrote:
>>
>> On Sunday 25 Dec 2011 08:17:15 Ian Clarke wrote:
>> > I'm trying to edit the new wiki, but I get the following whenever I
>> > attempt
>> > to submit an edit:
>> >
>> > Internal error
>> >
>> > Set *$wgShowExceptionDetails = true;* at the bottom of LocalSettings.php
>> > to
>> > show detailed debugging information.
>>
>> Look people, I do not have time at the moment to be:
>> - Sysadmin on osprey.
>> - List admin.
>> - Release manager.
>> - General debugger.
>> - QA contact (Uservoice, bugs get reported to me; I have in the past done
>> the last-resort response on the support list, FMS, Freetalk).
>> - New Big Stuff Coder.
>> ...
>>
>> If somebody could take over some of these jobs, it would be very helpful.
>> I believe there were a couple of people with admin access to osprey? Bombe
>> has agreed to do the release manager bit; implementing this is in progress.
>>
>> Actually I don't have time to do anything at the moment, but I will in the
>> new year at some point.
>> >
>> > Any ideas?
>> >
>> > Ian.
>>
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Re: [freenet-dev] Can't edit new-wiki

[Ian Clarke]

Sorry for the slow reply Steve, but that would be great!  You've been
around for a while which is good, but would you mind emailing me
off-list with some background info, just for security's sake?

I assume you are comfortable with Ubuntu?

Matthew, what do you think are good next steps to get Steve
up-to-snuff with our infrastructure?

Ian.

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Steve Dougherty st...@asksteved.com wrote:
 I'd like to offer my assistance as a sysadmin.

 On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Matthew Toseland
 t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote:

 On Sunday 25 Dec 2011 08:17:15 Ian Clarke wrote:
  I'm trying to edit the new wiki, but I get the following whenever I
  attempt
  to submit an edit:
 
  Internal error
 
  Set *$wgShowExceptionDetails = true;* at the bottom of LocalSettings.php
  to
  show detailed debugging information.

 Look people, I do not have time at the moment to be:
 - Sysadmin on osprey.
 - List admin.
 - Release manager.
 - General debugger.
 - QA contact (Uservoice, bugs get reported to me; I have in the past done
 the last-resort response on the support list, FMS, Freetalk).
 - New Big Stuff Coder.
 ...

 If somebody could take over some of these jobs, it would be very helpful.
 I believe there were a couple of people with admin access to osprey? Bombe
 has agreed to do the release manager bit; implementing this is in progress.

 Actually I don't have time to do anything at the moment, but I will in the
 new year at some point.
 
  Any ideas?
 
  Ian.

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[freenet-dev] Can't edit new-wiki

[Steve Dougherty]

I'd like to offer my assistance as a sysadmin.

On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Matthew Toseland  wrote:

> On Sunday 25 Dec 2011 08:17:15 Ian Clarke wrote:
> > I'm trying to edit the new wiki, but I get the following whenever I
> attempt
> > to submit an edit:
> >
> > Internal error
> >
> > Set *$wgShowExceptionDetails = true;* at the bottom of LocalSettings.php
> to
> > show detailed debugging information.
>
> Look people, I do not have time at the moment to be:
> - Sysadmin on osprey.
> - List admin.
> - Release manager.
> - General debugger.
> - QA contact (Uservoice, bugs get reported to me; I have in the past done
> the last-resort response on the support list, FMS, Freetalk).
> - New Big Stuff Coder.
> ...
>
> If somebody could take over some of these jobs, it would be very helpful.
> I believe there were a couple of people with admin access to osprey? Bombe
> has agreed to do the release manager bit; implementing this is in progress.
>
> Actually I don't have time to do anything at the moment, but I will in the
> new year at some point.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Ian.
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Re: [freenet-dev] Can't edit new-wiki

[Steve Dougherty]

I'd like to offer my assistance as a sysadmin.

On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org
 wrote:

 On Sunday 25 Dec 2011 08:17:15 Ian Clarke wrote:
  I'm trying to edit the new wiki, but I get the following whenever I
 attempt
  to submit an edit:
 
  Internal error
 
  Set *$wgShowExceptionDetails = true;* at the bottom of LocalSettings.php
 to
  show detailed debugging information.

 Look people, I do not have time at the moment to be:
 - Sysadmin on osprey.
 - List admin.
 - Release manager.
 - General debugger.
 - QA contact (Uservoice, bugs get reported to me; I have in the past done
 the last-resort response on the support list, FMS, Freetalk).
 - New Big Stuff Coder.
 ...

 If somebody could take over some of these jobs, it would be very helpful.
 I believe there were a couple of people with admin access to osprey? Bombe
 has agreed to do the release manager bit; implementing this is in progress.

 Actually I don't have time to do anything at the moment, but I will in the
 new year at some point.
 
  Any ideas?
 
  Ian.

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[freenet-dev] Can't edit new-wiki

[Matthew Toseland]

On Tuesday 27 Dec 2011 05:45:25 Daxter wrote:
> On Dec 26, 2011, at 10:32 PM, Ian Clarke wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:15 AM, Daxter  wrote:
> >>> Definitely seems that we need to decentralize this in the short term,
> >>> is anyone willing to take on these roles?
> >> 
> >> I've wanted to help out for a long time, and I might as well start now. I 
> >> have no dev experience with Freenet so I wouldn't be the right person for 
> >> a number of those jobs, but surely there's something I could take on. At 
> >> any rate, just wanted to say that I'm willing to help.
> > 
> > Thanks Daxter!  So what can you do? :-)
> 
> I can? learn how to do things? I only have a classroom-level understanding of 
> Java at this point, so there's certainly a lot for me to relearn if I'm to 
> contribute to the codebase. As for real experience, I've worked both on Ruby 
> on Rails and PHP web applications, as well as their database backends.
> 
> The biggest barrier to entry is the (AFAIK) lack of any updated guide of how 
> to get involved, as well as how everything's currently set up. I didn't want 
> to bother people with "noob" questions, so I've been lurking instead.
> 
> One thing I personally would like to do is provide a Mac-style install bundle 
> for OSX users, so that the install process looks more professional from the 
> perspective of a Mac user. Once the bundle itself is set up, it should be 
> very easy to script any changes to the installer for future updates.

The main problem with that being that you have to regenerate it *on a mac* each 
time, right? Of course if you're willing to do this that's fine. It does mean 
it can't be an integrated part of the release process unless the release 
manager (probably Bombe) is using a mac though.
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[Ian Clarke]

On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:15 AM, Daxter  wrote:
>> Definitely seems that we need to decentralize this in the short term,
>> is anyone willing to take on these roles?
>
> I've wanted to help out for a long time, and I might as well start now. I 
> have no dev experience with Freenet so I wouldn't be the right person for a 
> number of those jobs, but surely there's something I could take on. At any 
> rate, just wanted to say that I'm willing to help.

Thanks Daxter!  So what can you do? :-)

Ian.

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[freenet-dev] Can't edit new-wiki

[Ian Clarke]

On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Matthew Toseland
 wrote:
> Look people, I do not have time at the moment to be:

Definitely seems that we need to decentralize this in the short term,
is anyone willing to take on these roles?

I'll need to discuss offline with Matthew, but it looks like his time
as Freenet's paid code-monkey may be coming to an end :-/  I'll send a
separate email about where we go from here once I've discussed it with
him.

Ian.

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Re: [freenet-dev] Can't edit new-wiki

[Matthew Toseland]

On Tuesday 27 Dec 2011 05:45:25 Daxter wrote:
 On Dec 26, 2011, at 10:32 PM, Ian Clarke wrote:
  On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:15 AM, Daxter xovat...@gmail.com wrote:
  Definitely seems that we need to decentralize this in the short term,
  is anyone willing to take on these roles?
  
  I've wanted to help out for a long time, and I might as well start now. I 
  have no dev experience with Freenet so I wouldn't be the right person for 
  a number of those jobs, but surely there's something I could take on. At 
  any rate, just wanted to say that I'm willing to help.
  
  Thanks Daxter!  So what can you do? :-)
 
 I can… learn how to do things? I only have a classroom-level understanding of 
 Java at this point, so there's certainly a lot for me to relearn if I'm to 
 contribute to the codebase. As for real experience, I've worked both on Ruby 
 on Rails and PHP web applications, as well as their database backends.
 
 The biggest barrier to entry is the (AFAIK) lack of any updated guide of how 
 to get involved, as well as how everything's currently set up. I didn't want 
 to bother people with noob questions, so I've been lurking instead.
 
 One thing I personally would like to do is provide a Mac-style install bundle 
 for OSX users, so that the install process looks more professional from the 
 perspective of a Mac user. Once the bundle itself is set up, it should be 
 very easy to script any changes to the installer for future updates.

The main problem with that being that you have to regenerate it *on a mac* each 
time, right? Of course if you're willing to do this that's fine. It does mean 
it can't be an integrated part of the release process unless the release 
manager (probably Bombe) is using a mac though.


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[Matthew Toseland]

On Sunday 25 Dec 2011 08:17:15 Ian Clarke wrote:
> I'm trying to edit the new wiki, but I get the following whenever I attempt
> to submit an edit:
> 
> Internal error
> 
> Set *$wgShowExceptionDetails = true;* at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to
> show detailed debugging information.

Look people, I do not have time at the moment to be:
- Sysadmin on osprey.
- List admin.
- Release manager.
- General debugger.
- QA contact (Uservoice, bugs get reported to me; I have in the past done the 
last-resort response on the support list, FMS, Freetalk).
- New Big Stuff Coder.
...

If somebody could take over some of these jobs, it would be very helpful. I 
believe there were a couple of people with admin access to osprey? Bombe has 
agreed to do the release manager bit; implementing this is in progress.

Actually I don't have time to do anything at the moment, but I will in the new 
year at some point.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Ian.
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[Daxter]

On Dec 26, 2011, at 10:32 PM, Ian Clarke wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:15 AM, Daxter  wrote:
>>> Definitely seems that we need to decentralize this in the short term,
>>> is anyone willing to take on these roles?
>> 
>> I've wanted to help out for a long time, and I might as well start now. I 
>> have no dev experience with Freenet so I wouldn't be the right person for a 
>> number of those jobs, but surely there's something I could take on. At any 
>> rate, just wanted to say that I'm willing to help.
> 
> Thanks Daxter!  So what can you do? :-)

I can? learn how to do things? I only have a classroom-level understanding of 
Java at this point, so there's certainly a lot for me to relearn if I'm to 
contribute to the codebase. As for real experience, I've worked both on Ruby on 
Rails and PHP web applications, as well as their database backends.

The biggest barrier to entry is the (AFAIK) lack of any updated guide of how to 
get involved, as well as how everything's currently set up. I didn't want to 
bother people with "noob" questions, so I've been lurking instead.

One thing I personally would like to do is provide a Mac-style install bundle 
for OSX users, so that the install process looks more professional from the 
perspective of a Mac user. Once the bundle itself is set up, it should be very 
easy to script any changes to the installer for future updates.

[freenet-dev] Can't edit new-wiki

[Daxter]

On Dec 26, 2011, at 9:55 PM, Ian Clarke wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Matthew Toseland
>  wrote:
>> Look people, I do not have time at the moment to be:
> 
> Definitely seems that we need to decentralize this in the short term,
> is anyone willing to take on these roles?

I've wanted to help out for a long time, and I might as well start now. I have 
no dev experience with Freenet so I wouldn't be the right person for a number 
of those jobs, but surely there's something I could take on. At any rate, just 
wanted to say that I'm willing to help.

-Daxter

Re: [freenet-dev] Can't edit new-wiki

[Matthew Toseland]

On Sunday 25 Dec 2011 08:17:15 Ian Clarke wrote:
 I'm trying to edit the new wiki, but I get the following whenever I attempt
 to submit an edit:
 
 Internal error
 
 Set *$wgShowExceptionDetails = true;* at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to
 show detailed debugging information.

Look people, I do not have time at the moment to be:
- Sysadmin on osprey.
- List admin.
- Release manager.
- General debugger.
- QA contact (Uservoice, bugs get reported to me; I have in the past done the 
last-resort response on the support list, FMS, Freetalk).
- New Big Stuff Coder.
...

If somebody could take over some of these jobs, it would be very helpful. I 
believe there were a couple of people with admin access to osprey? Bombe has 
agreed to do the release manager bit; implementing this is in progress.

Actually I don't have time to do anything at the moment, but I will in the new 
year at some point.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Ian.


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[Ian Clarke]

On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Matthew Toseland
t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote:
 Look people, I do not have time at the moment to be:

Definitely seems that we need to decentralize this in the short term,
is anyone willing to take on these roles?

I'll need to discuss offline with Matthew, but it looks like his time
as Freenet's paid code-monkey may be coming to an end :-/  I'll send a
separate email about where we go from here once I've discussed it with
him.

Ian.

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Re: [freenet-dev] Can't edit new-wiki

[Ian Clarke]

On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:15 AM, Daxter xovat...@gmail.com wrote:
 Definitely seems that we need to decentralize this in the short term,
 is anyone willing to take on these roles?

 I've wanted to help out for a long time, and I might as well start now. I 
 have no dev experience with Freenet so I wouldn't be the right person for a 
 number of those jobs, but surely there's something I could take on. At any 
 rate, just wanted to say that I'm willing to help.

Thanks Daxter!  So what can you do? :-)

Ian.

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Re: [freenet-dev] Can't edit new-wiki

[Daxter]

On Dec 26, 2011, at 10:32 PM, Ian Clarke wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:15 AM, Daxter xovat...@gmail.com wrote:
 Definitely seems that we need to decentralize this in the short term,
 is anyone willing to take on these roles?
 
 I've wanted to help out for a long time, and I might as well start now. I 
 have no dev experience with Freenet so I wouldn't be the right person for a 
 number of those jobs, but surely there's something I could take on. At any 
 rate, just wanted to say that I'm willing to help.
 
 Thanks Daxter!  So what can you do? :-)

I can… learn how to do things? I only have a classroom-level understanding of 
Java at this point, so there's certainly a lot for me to relearn if I'm to 
contribute to the codebase. As for real experience, I've worked both on Ruby on 
Rails and PHP web applications, as well as their database backends.

The biggest barrier to entry is the (AFAIK) lack of any updated guide of how to 
get involved, as well as how everything's currently set up. I didn't want to 
bother people with noob questions, so I've been lurking instead.

One thing I personally would like to do is provide a Mac-style install bundle 
for OSX users, so that the install process looks more professional from the 
perspective of a Mac user. Once the bundle itself is set up, it should be very 
easy to script any changes to the installer for future updates.
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[freenet-dev] Can't edit new-wiki

[Ian Clarke]

I'm trying to edit the new wiki, but I get the following whenever I attempt
to submit an edit:

Internal error

Set *$wgShowExceptionDetails = true;* at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to
show detailed debugging information.


Any ideas?

Ian.


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