Re: [freenet-dev] Possible Active Pitch Black Attack
Very much appreciated! On Dec 4, 2015 11:35 AM, "Bert Massop" wrote: > The circle plot shows the peer location, the histogram does not. We should > instead fix the histogram to show the peer locations. > > Should be 15 minutes of work at most, if I don't see a pull request by > tomorrow I'll file one. > > All the best, > Bert > Op 4 dec. 2015 17:29 schreef "Michael Grube" : > > > If this graph is a measure of your distance from your peers we should > > reconsider the graph title. > > On Dec 4, 2015 11:25 AM, "Steve Dougherty" wrote: > > > > > On 12/04/2015 11:20 AM, Bert Massop wrote: > > > > Also, the clusters all appear close to your respective node's > > locations, > > > as > > > > expected, and certainly not around 0.00 (which would be on the top or > > on > > > > the extreme right of the circle plot, I'm not reading the code at the > > > > moment). > > > > > > > > Again, I see no reason to worry. > > > > > > Oh, okay. That makes sense. I will say that naming a distance plot > "Peer > > > Location Distribution" is extraordinarily misleading. > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Devl mailing list > > > Devl@freenetproject.org > > > https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl > > > > > ___ > > Devl mailing list > > Devl@freenetproject.org > > https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl > ___ > Devl mailing list > Devl@freenetproject.org > https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
Re: [freenet-dev] Possible Active Pitch Black Attack
The circle plot shows the peer location, the histogram does not. We should instead fix the histogram to show the peer locations. Should be 15 minutes of work at most, if I don't see a pull request by tomorrow I'll file one. All the best, Bert Op 4 dec. 2015 17:29 schreef "Michael Grube" : > If this graph is a measure of your distance from your peers we should > reconsider the graph title. > On Dec 4, 2015 11:25 AM, "Steve Dougherty" wrote: > > > On 12/04/2015 11:20 AM, Bert Massop wrote: > > > Also, the clusters all appear close to your respective node's > locations, > > as > > > expected, and certainly not around 0.00 (which would be on the top or > on > > > the extreme right of the circle plot, I'm not reading the code at the > > > moment). > > > > > > Again, I see no reason to worry. > > > > Oh, okay. That makes sense. I will say that naming a distance plot "Peer > > Location Distribution" is extraordinarily misleading. > > > > > > ___ > > Devl mailing list > > Devl@freenetproject.org > > https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl > > > ___ > Devl mailing list > Devl@freenetproject.org > https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
Re: [freenet-dev] Possible Active Pitch Black Attack
If this graph is a measure of your distance from your peers we should reconsider the graph title. On Dec 4, 2015 11:25 AM, "Steve Dougherty" wrote: > On 12/04/2015 11:20 AM, Bert Massop wrote: > > Also, the clusters all appear close to your respective node's locations, > as > > expected, and certainly not around 0.00 (which would be on the top or on > > the extreme right of the circle plot, I'm not reading the code at the > > moment). > > > > Again, I see no reason to worry. > > Oh, okay. That makes sense. I will say that naming a distance plot "Peer > Location Distribution" is extraordinarily misleading. > > > ___ > Devl mailing list > Devl@freenetproject.org > https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl > ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
Re: [freenet-dev] Possible Active Pitch Black Attack
On 12/04/2015 11:20 AM, Bert Massop wrote: > Also, the clusters all appear close to your respective node's locations, as > expected, and certainly not around 0.00 (which would be on the top or on > the extreme right of the circle plot, I'm not reading the code at the > moment). > > Again, I see no reason to worry. Oh, okay. That makes sense. I will say that naming a distance plot "Peer Location Distribution" is extraordinarily misleading. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
Re: [freenet-dev] Possible Active Pitch Black Attack
Also, the clusters all appear close to your respective node's locations, as expected, and certainly not around 0.00 (which would be on the top or on the extreme right of the circle plot, I'm not reading the code at the moment). Again, I see no reason to worry. Op 4 dec. 2015 17:16 schreef "Bert Massop" : > The histogram shows peer locations w.r.t. your own peer, otherwise known > as *distances*. You expect >70% of your peers to be in the [0.0,0.05) > column. Looks perfectly normal to me, or am I missing something? > > — Bert > Op 4 dec. 2015 17:10 schreef "Steve Dougherty" : > >> The network may be experiencing a pitch black attack, or maybe a Sybil >> variant on it? (Given the assumption that few people are using darknet; >> we should add a probe for security levels.) From talking on IRC, I am >> not alone in observing peer locations severely clustered around 0.00: >> >> Me: https://i.imgur.com/PDxrKVT.png >> Psalle: https://i.imgur.com/DWJVgRR.png >> mrsteveman1: https://i.imgur.com/6ORJz9m.jpg >> https://i.imgur.com/JLqoc0J.jpg >> >> Might this explain my relatively recent inability to see some posts / >> messages on FMS / FLIP / Sone? I'll see replies but not the original >> messages. >> >> - Steve >> >> >> ___ >> Devl mailing list >> Devl@freenetproject.org >> https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl >> > ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
Re: [freenet-dev] Possible Active Pitch Black Attack
The histogram shows peer locations w.r.t. your own peer, otherwise known as *distances*. You expect >70% of your peers to be in the [0.0,0.05) column. Looks perfectly normal to me, or am I missing something? — Bert Op 4 dec. 2015 17:10 schreef "Steve Dougherty" : > The network may be experiencing a pitch black attack, or maybe a Sybil > variant on it? (Given the assumption that few people are using darknet; > we should add a probe for security levels.) From talking on IRC, I am > not alone in observing peer locations severely clustered around 0.00: > > Me: https://i.imgur.com/PDxrKVT.png > Psalle: https://i.imgur.com/DWJVgRR.png > mrsteveman1: https://i.imgur.com/6ORJz9m.jpg > https://i.imgur.com/JLqoc0J.jpg > > Might this explain my relatively recent inability to see some posts / > messages on FMS / FLIP / Sone? I'll see replies but not the original > messages. > > - Steve > > > ___ > Devl mailing list > Devl@freenetproject.org > https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl > ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
[freenet-dev] Possible Active Pitch Black Attack
The network may be experiencing a pitch black attack, or maybe a Sybil variant on it? (Given the assumption that few people are using darknet; we should add a probe for security levels.) From talking on IRC, I am not alone in observing peer locations severely clustered around 0.00: Me: https://i.imgur.com/PDxrKVT.png Psalle: https://i.imgur.com/DWJVgRR.png mrsteveman1: https://i.imgur.com/6ORJz9m.jpg https://i.imgur.com/JLqoc0J.jpg Might this explain my relatively recent inability to see some posts / messages on FMS / FLIP / Sone? I'll see replies but not the original messages. - Steve signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
