Re: [DDN] Boston Globe story on podcasting
I found a Mac application that helps with transcribing. It's called Listen & Type http://www.nattaworks.com/english.html Now if I can just find the time to transcribe all my Podcasts. Hopefully we'll find that audio file to text application. :) Putting the full text of a audio or video piece in RSS might be good way to share this info with people in the deaf community. -Brian One of the inherent problems with Internet radio, of course, is that they're audiocasts, and that means you'd have to transcribe the audiocast, unless there's an MP3-to-text transcriber tool that's readily accessible to the public. Is there one? Like I mentioned in a previous message, we intend to transcribe DDN podcasts. But I would imagine that we'd be in the minority for doing that, as most amateur podcasters are focused on exploring new multimedia casting technologies rather than thinking about equity issues. Surprisingly, I don't see transcripts for WGBH's Morning Stories podcast, which I would have expected given WGBH's accessibility work. It might be because this is such a new medium that people just aren't considering the accessibility implications yet. Of course, if you podcast video rather than audio, it's not very difficult to caption them... ac Grant W. Laird Jr wrote: Guys, Dont forget that it probably doesn't support transcripts for deaf community. I did talked about it in my recent blog... http://blog.grantlairdjr.com gwlj -- --- Andy Carvin Program Director EDC Center for Media & Community acarvin @ edc . org http://www.digitaldivide.net Blog: http://www.andycarvin.com --- ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
Re: [DDN] Boston Globe story on podcasting
There is some movement in this area. Adam Curry has been including an OPML file (a type of outline) when he posts his latest podcast. That gives a rundown of what, generally, is on the podcast. It can also include links that are mentioned in the recording. Along these lines, the best posting of a new podcast will also include a direct link to the mp3, for those without iPodder software or players that are compatible with the semi-automated process. An outline is good for determining if you are likely to enjoy a particular show, but this still doesn't address the needs of the deaf community. Dave On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:42:40 -0500, Grant W. Laird Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Guys, > > Dont forget that it probably doesn't support transcripts for deaf community. > > I did talked about it in my recent blog... > > http://blog.grantlairdjr.com > > gwlj > > On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:16:22 -0500, Dave Pentecost wrote > > As a small clarification: > > > > Andy wrote: > > > (You could also just download it to your computer, but that's not > > > as cool or tragically hip as listening to it on your iPod). So rather > > > than visiting someone's blog to listen to their audio program, my > > > computer captures the audio file automatically and downloads it, so the > > > next time I'm commuting on the train or whatever, I can listen to it. > > > > That, I think, is the key point in podcasting. You listen away from > > your computer, usually while doing something else. This is (one > > reason) why podcasting took off and videoblogging hasn't. > > > > And you needn't be tragically hip. There are many mp3 players out > > there, some built into jumpdrives and costing as little as $30. You > > can give every kid in a media program an mp3 player that also stores > > all their digital photos and written work. Is that a cheap enough > > platform for you? > > > > Best > > Dave > > > > -- > > The Daily Glyph http://www.gomaya.com/glyph > > Usumacinta http://www.gomaya.com/dams > > Cell 917 312 9733 > > ___ > > DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list > > DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org > > http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide > > To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the > > word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. > > > Grant W. Laird, Jr. / Fax: 1-702-543-2013 / AIM:"grantlaird" > Pager/E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.deafnetwork.com > http://www.crazytech.com > http://www.crazywebhosting.com > http://www.deafcoffee.com > "I know you think you understood what I said, but what you heard (saw) is not > what I meant!" > Have you check my blog lately? Go to http://blog.grantlairdjr.com > > ___ > DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list > DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org > http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide > To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE > in the body of the message. > -- The Daily Glyph http://www.gomaya.com/glyph Usumacinta http://www.gomaya.com/dams Cell 917 312 9733 ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
Re: [DDN] Boston Globe story on podcasting
One of the inherent problems with Internet radio, of course, is that they're audiocasts, and that means you'd have to transcribe the audiocast, unless there's an MP3-to-text transcriber tool that's readily accessible to the public. Is there one? Like I mentioned in a previous message, we intend to transcribe DDN podcasts. But I would imagine that we'd be in the minority for doing that, as most amateur podcasters are focused on exploring new multimedia casting technologies rather than thinking about equity issues. Surprisingly, I don't see transcripts for WGBH's Morning Stories podcast, which I would have expected given WGBH's accessibility work. It might be because this is such a new medium that people just aren't considering the accessibility implications yet. Of course, if you podcast video rather than audio, it's not very difficult to caption them... ac Grant W. Laird Jr wrote: Guys, Dont forget that it probably doesn't support transcripts for deaf community. I did talked about it in my recent blog... http://blog.grantlairdjr.com gwlj -- --- Andy Carvin Program Director EDC Center for Media & Community acarvin @ edc . org http://www.digitaldivide.net Blog: http://www.andycarvin.com --- ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
Re: [DDN] Boston Globe story on podcasting
Guys, Dont forget that it probably doesn't support transcripts for deaf community. I did talked about it in my recent blog... http://blog.grantlairdjr.com gwlj On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:16:22 -0500, Dave Pentecost wrote > As a small clarification: > > Andy wrote: > > (You could also just download it to your computer, but that's not > > as cool or tragically hip as listening to it on your iPod). So rather > > than visiting someone's blog to listen to their audio program, my > > computer captures the audio file automatically and downloads it, so the > > next time I'm commuting on the train or whatever, I can listen to it. > > That, I think, is the key point in podcasting. You listen away from > your computer, usually while doing something else. This is (one > reason) why podcasting took off and videoblogging hasn't. > > And you needn't be tragically hip. There are many mp3 players out > there, some built into jumpdrives and costing as little as $30. You > can give every kid in a media program an mp3 player that also stores > all their digital photos and written work. Is that a cheap enough > platform for you? > > Best > Dave > > -- > The Daily Glyph http://www.gomaya.com/glyph > Usumacinta http://www.gomaya.com/dams > Cell 917 312 9733 > ___ > DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list > DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org > http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide > To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the > word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. Grant W. Laird, Jr. / Fax: 1-702-543-2013 / AIM:"grantlaird" Pager/E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.deafnetwork.com http://www.crazytech.com http://www.crazywebhosting.com http://www.deafcoffee.com "I know you think you understood what I said, but what you heard (saw) is not what I meant!" Have you check my blog lately? Go to http://blog.grantlairdjr.com ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
RE: [DDN] Boston Globe story on podcasting
Seems like mobile phones that can download and store mp3's would be a great way for podcasting to take off in 3rd world and/or authoritarian countries. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Pentecost Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 8:16 PM To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group Subject: Re: [DDN] Boston Globe story on podcasting As a small clarification: Andy wrote: > (You could also just download it to your computer, but that's not > as cool or tragically hip as listening to it on your iPod). So rather > than visiting someone's blog to listen to their audio program, my > computer captures the audio file automatically and downloads it, so the > next time I'm commuting on the train or whatever, I can listen to it. That, I think, is the key point in podcasting. You listen away from your computer, usually while doing something else. This is (one reason) why podcasting took off and videoblogging hasn't. And you needn't be tragically hip. There are many mp3 players out there, some built into jumpdrives and costing as little as $30. You can give every kid in a media program an mp3 player that also stores all their digital photos and written work. Is that a cheap enough platform for you? Best Dave -- The Daily Glyph http://www.gomaya.com/glyph Usumacinta http://www.gomaya.com/dams Cell 917 312 9733 ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
Re: [DDN] Boston Globe story on podcasting
As a small clarification: Andy wrote: > (You could also just download it to your computer, but that's not > as cool or tragically hip as listening to it on your iPod). So rather > than visiting someone's blog to listen to their audio program, my > computer captures the audio file automatically and downloads it, so the > next time I'm commuting on the train or whatever, I can listen to it. That, I think, is the key point in podcasting. You listen away from your computer, usually while doing something else. This is (one reason) why podcasting took off and videoblogging hasn't. And you needn't be tragically hip. There are many mp3 players out there, some built into jumpdrives and costing as little as $30. You can give every kid in a media program an mp3 player that also stores all their digital photos and written work. Is that a cheap enough platform for you? Best Dave -- The Daily Glyph http://www.gomaya.com/glyph Usumacinta http://www.gomaya.com/dams Cell 917 312 9733 ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
Re: [DDN] Boston Globe story on podcasting
Thomas A Webb wrote: Out of ignorance of the mac-redmond branded offerings, a question: I followed the link below and listened to the content [it's a pretty cool idea]. The content is in the form an mp3; is that what's inside an iPod? Any of you Linux users out there can do pretty professional production work with Audacity [an open source studio level production tool for audio that produces a wide variety of formats] and if iPods can play your stuff, it's a ->NO<-budget way to get into this.;-) Yes, iPods are just like other MP3 players in most respects; it's just got a cool, sleek interface and accompanying software that's made it extraordinarily popular. Podcasting is basically the next step in the convergence of audio/video webcasting, MP3 players and blogging. Blogs are generally made of text, and bloggers use RSS feeds to let other Internet users subscribe to their blog. Some bloggers then began to post audio and video on their sites as well -- including recordings equivalent to radio programs, with their own theme songs, hosts, guest interviews etc. But if a user wanted to listen to these programs, he or she previously would have to go to the blogger's website and click on the link to download the program, then listening to it on their computer. So former MTV VJ Adam Curry got together with RSS pioneer Dave Winer to develop a way for RSS feeds to recognize links to multimedia clips, including MP3 audio clips and Quicktime videos. This allowed them and others to develop software like iPodderX, which is a cross between iTunes software (used to manage your iPod MP3 player) and an RSS newsreader (used to subscribe to RSS feeds, like Bloglines.com or Amphetadesk). This convergence of MP3 management software and an RSS newsreader is what led to the birth of podcasting. Using software like iPodderX, I can now subscribe to blogs that produce podcasts (ie, MP3 radio programs). The iPodder software captures the RSS feed of the blog, automatically downloading the latest podcast audio files for me to listen to on an iPod (You could also just download it to your computer, but that's not as cool or tragically hip as listening to it on your iPod). So rather than visiting someone's blog to listen to their audio program, my computer captures the audio file automatically and downloads it, so the next time I'm commuting on the train or whatever, I can listen to it. There's still a bit of a learning curve when it comes to podcasting. You need to know something about blogging and RSS feeds for starters, plus you'll have to be somewhat proficient at creating and editing audio files. Right now I consider myself to be self-apprenticing podcaster, learning from other podcasters by observing their methods, then testing it for myself. Just for fun I may post some informal podcasts over the next week during the holidays, but hopefully by January I'll be able to incorporate podcasting into my blog and into DDN as a new format to publish articles about the digital divide. Stay tuned - to my RSS feed, at least. :-) http://www.andycarvin.com/index.xml ps - for more about RSS feeds, please check out my recent DDN article on the subject: http://www.digitaldivide.net/articles/view.php?ArticleID=68 -- --- Andy Carvin Program Director EDC Center for Media & Community acarvin @ edc . org http://www.digitaldivide.net Blog: http://www.andycarvin.com --- ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
Re: [DDN] Boston Globe story on podcasting
Dave Pentecost wrote: As it happens, I am on this list AND a podcaster, though I've just done a couple of casts so far, which I call "Jungle Tales": http://www.gomaya.com/glyph/rss.xml As you'll see, that's an RSS feed with enclosures, and it requirers getting a piece of software called an ipodder (see below). This stuff is not automatic yet but it's getting easier. I've been posting occasional audio/video blogs to my website over the last 15 months or so, but I only managed to figure out how to add enclosures to my RSS feed in the last week. I have to thank Brian Russell for his excellent podcasting tutorial, which helped me figure out this missing piece of the equation. http://www.digitaldivide.net/blog/brussell/view?PostID=848 I followed the ramp up to podcasting last summer, met with Dave Winer this fall, and I'm maintaining the "Travel" node at Adam Curry's directory of podcasts: http://www.ipodder.org/directory/4/podcasts If anybody has a travel-themed podcast they would like to be listed, let me know. There are also other good links, including how-to and ipodder software, at that site - ipodder.org Most of my audio/video blogs to date have been travel related, covering my experience at WSIS-related events around the world over the last year (Tunisia, Geneva, Mauritius, Dubai). But they haven't been traditional podcasts in the sense that they weren't edited into a narrated broadcast format; instead, I've been using the text of my blog to serve as the narrative while the audio and video was added for additional multimedia depth. The one instance, I guess, where I played true podcaster was at the Democratic Natl Convention here in Boston this summer, while covering the anarchist protests. Here's a comparison of that podcast with a video blog I posted that same day: podcast: http://www.audlink.com/mailbox/1587/0407291323.mp3 video blog: http://www.andycarvin.com/000590.html These two links show the difference between a podcast and an audio/video blog. The first link is an MP3 file I recorded on my phone while walking with the protestors. It's a self-contained story in itself and can be downloaded into an iPod from my blog's RSS feed - hence, a podcast. The other contains a link to a video clip plus text and photos explaining it. It probably wouldn't be considered podcasting because the video clip lacks narrative by me. This isn't a big deal when you visit my blog on the Web, but if you've got your iPod set up to download my video stream automatically, it wouldn't have included the text of my website and would have appeared in the iPod out of context. Now that I'm getting more technically proficient with podcasting, I plan to podcast from future WSIS-related events that I attend. We're also exploring posting podcasts on the new DDN website. How am I using this to address the digital divide? At the Lower Eastside Girls Club we are working on girl-produced music, radio, and video as part of a community-wide network. Podcasting will be an important part of the distribution process for all of this. Podcasting seems like such a natural next-step for kids learning blogging and multimedia in general. Considering how young people flock to tools like iMovie, it seems inevitable to me that a groups of kids at telecentres will develop their own popular podcasts. Just as blogging lets anyone become their own online author, podcasting will let anyone become their own online broadcaster. It's just a matter of time until podcasting tools become so straightforward and millions of people start doing it. The revolution will be televised? Blogged? Nope. Podcast. ac -- --- Andy Carvin Program Director EDC Center for Media & Community acarvin @ edc . org http://www.digitaldivide.net Blog: http://www.andycarvin.com --- ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
Re: [DDN] Boston Globe story on podcasting
Out of ignorance of the mac-redmond branded offerings, a question: I followed the link below and listened to the content [it's a pretty cool idea]. The content is in the form an mp3; is that what's inside an iPod? Any of you Linux users out there can do pretty professional production work with Audacity [an open source studio level production tool for audio that produces a wide variety of formats] and if iPods can play your stuff, it's a ->NO<-budget way to get into this.;-) Dave Pentecost wrote: As it happens, I am on this list AND a podcaster, though I've just done a couple of casts so far, which I call "Jungle Tales": http://www.gomaya.com/glyph/rss.xml As you'll see, that's an RSS feed with enclosures, and it requirers getting a piece of software called an ipodder (see below). This stuff is not automatic yet but it's getting easier. I followed the ramp up to podcasting last summer, met with Dave Winer this fall, and I'm maintaining the "Travel" node at Adam Curry's directory of podcasts: http://www.ipodder.org/directory/4/podcasts If anybody has a travel-themed podcast they would like to be listed, let me know. There are also other good links, including how-to and ipodder software, at that site - ipodder.org How am I using this to address the digital divide? At the Lower Eastside Girls Club we are working on girl-produced music, radio, and video as part of a community-wide network. Podcasting will be an important part of the distribution process for all of this. Best Dave Pentecost On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:04:48 -0500, Andy Carvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Today's Boston Globe has a nice story on podcasting and some of the locals who are pioneering the medium. Just as blogging allows any netizen to become an online writer, podcasting opens the doors for people to become Internet radio personalities as well. The article notes Dave Winer and Adam Curry's iPodder project and interviews local video blogger Steve Garfield. It also covers WGBH's Morning Stories, one of the first podcasts to come out of the public broadcasting community. Expect to hear lots more about podcasting through the mainstream media in 2005, not to mention some of my own podcasts from my blog as well... -andy http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/12/20/through_ipod_technology_anyone_can_be_a_broadcaster/ or http://tinyurl.com/3ude2 -- --- Andy Carvin Program Director EDC Center for Media & Community acarvin @ edc . org http://www.digitaldivide.net Blog: http://www.andycarvin.com --- ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
Re: [DDN] Boston Globe story on podcasting
As it happens, I am on this list AND a podcaster, though I've just done a couple of casts so far, which I call "Jungle Tales": http://www.gomaya.com/glyph/rss.xml As you'll see, that's an RSS feed with enclosures, and it requirers getting a piece of software called an ipodder (see below). This stuff is not automatic yet but it's getting easier. I followed the ramp up to podcasting last summer, met with Dave Winer this fall, and I'm maintaining the "Travel" node at Adam Curry's directory of podcasts: http://www.ipodder.org/directory/4/podcasts If anybody has a travel-themed podcast they would like to be listed, let me know. There are also other good links, including how-to and ipodder software, at that site - ipodder.org How am I using this to address the digital divide? At the Lower Eastside Girls Club we are working on girl-produced music, radio, and video as part of a community-wide network. Podcasting will be an important part of the distribution process for all of this. Best Dave Pentecost On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:04:48 -0500, Andy Carvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Today's Boston Globe has a nice story on podcasting and some of the > locals who are pioneering the medium. Just as blogging allows any > netizen to become an online writer, podcasting opens the doors for > people to become Internet radio personalities as well. The article notes > Dave Winer and Adam Curry's iPodder project and interviews local video > blogger Steve Garfield. It also covers WGBH's Morning Stories, one of > the first podcasts to come out of the public broadcasting community. > > Expect to hear lots more about podcasting through the mainstream media > in 2005, not to mention some of my own podcasts from my blog as well... > -andy > > http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/12/20/through_ipod_technology_anyone_can_be_a_broadcaster/ > or > http://tinyurl.com/3ude2 > > -- > --- > Andy Carvin > Program Director > EDC Center for Media & Community > acarvin @ edc . org > http://www.digitaldivide.net > Blog: http://www.andycarvin.com > --- > ___ > DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide > To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE > in the body of the message. > -- The Daily Glyph http://www.gomaya.com/glyph Usumacinta http://www.gomaya.com/dams Cell 917 312 9733 ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
[DDN] Boston Globe story on podcasting
Today's Boston Globe has a nice story on podcasting and some of the locals who are pioneering the medium. Just as blogging allows any netizen to become an online writer, podcasting opens the doors for people to become Internet radio personalities as well. The article notes Dave Winer and Adam Curry's iPodder project and interviews local video blogger Steve Garfield. It also covers WGBH's Morning Stories, one of the first podcasts to come out of the public broadcasting community. Expect to hear lots more about podcasting through the mainstream media in 2005, not to mention some of my own podcasts from my blog as well... -andy http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/12/20/through_ipod_technology_anyone_can_be_a_broadcaster/ or http://tinyurl.com/3ude2 -- --- Andy Carvin Program Director EDC Center for Media & Community acarvin @ edc . org http://www.digitaldivide.net Blog: http://www.andycarvin.com --- ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
