Re: DCD 0.5.0 beta
I'm not sure if this is a DCD bug or an issue with the DMD installer? The DCD beta code compiled without issue. But when I started the server I got this error: C:\Program Files\Zeusdcd-server.exe -iC:/dmd2/src/phobos [info ] Getting symbols for C:/dmd2/src/phobos\etc\c\curl.d ... [info ] Getting symbols for C:/dmd2/src/phobos\std\container\package.d [info ] Getting symbols for C:/dmd2/src/phobos\std\container\array.d [info ] Getting symbols for C:/dmd2/src/phobos\std\container\util.d [info ] Shutting down sockets... [info ] Sockets shut down. object.Error@(0): Access Violation If I remove the C:/dmd2/src/phobos\std\container folder the server starts fine: C:\Program Files\Zeusdcd-server.exe -iC:/dmd2/src/phobos [info ] Getting symbols for C:/dmd2/src/phobos\etc\c\curl.d ... [info ] Getting symbols for C:/dmd2/src/phobos\unittest.d [info ] Import directories: [C:/dmd2/src/phobos] [info ] 22153 symbols cached. [info ] Startup completed in 6677.97 milliseconds. I was using the DMD v2.066.1 release installed using the zip file.
Re: D support in Exuberant Ctags 5.8 for Windows
On Thursday, 26 July 2012 at 22:06:08 UTC, Gary Willoughby wrote: I'm looking at this page and trying to download the latest CTags 5.8 with D patch compiled for Windows but i'm getting a dead link. FYI the Zeus IDE uses ctags and many years ago I updated ctags to have some understanding of the D language. Those code changes where made against the last 5.8 version and they can be found here: http://www.zeusedit.com/z300/ctags_src.zip But as I said earlier those changes are quite old, so I don't know how well they work with the current D language.
[Zeus IDE] Dscanner Python Scripts
I've created a set of Zeus Python scripts to allow the Dscanner to be run from inside Zeus. The Dscanner will need to be downloaded and built form here: https://github.com/Hackerpilot/Dscanner The Zeus scripts can be found here: http://www.zeusedit.com/zforum/viewtopic.php?t=7196 Note: I'm the author of Zeus, Zeus is shareware, runs natively on the Windows platform and can also be run on Linux using Wine.
Re: No VisualStudio project for phobos?
On Thursday, 8 May 2014 at 13:58:51 UTC, Orvid King via Digitalmars-d wrote: I'm fairly certain that it can't build VisualC++ project files from a version of VS older than 2010, due to the fact that 2010 is the first version where VisualC++ projects were proper MSBuild project files. MSBuild can build VisualC++ 2008 project files, but you do have to use a version of MSBuild that is happy with those files. For those interested, more details can be found here: http://www.zeusedit.com/zforum/viewtopic.php?t=7143
Re: Compile-time memory footprint of std.algorithm
On Wednesday, 23 April 2014 at 20:04:09 UTC, Peter Alexander wrote: Maybe we should investigate where the memory is going first before planning our attack :-) FWIW one hint might be found in the DCD project found here: https://github.com/Hackerpilot/DCD/ In that project compiling the lexer.d file causes a massive increase in compiler memory usage. More details found here: https://github.com/Hackerpilot/DCD/issues/93 NOTE: That was DMD running on a 32 bit Windows XP machine.
Re: D-Scanner 0.1.0-beta3 and DCD 0.3.0-beta4
The latest Zeus IDE beta adds support for DCD document comment completion. Zeus already has support for DCD goto definition, brace and dot completion. For more details refer to this link: http://www.zeusedit.com/zforum/viewtopic.php?p=10795 NOTE: Zeus is shareware, runs natively on the Windows and can run on Linux using Wine. Jussi Jumppanen Author: Zeus Editor
Re: D-Scanner 0.1.0-beta3 and DCD 0.3.0-beta4
On Wednesday, 5 March 2014 at 08:37:28 UTC, Brian Schott wrote: New betas are available for both tools. Hopefully no more bugs will be found. I plan to tag these as non-beta this Saturday. https://github.com/Hackerpilot/Dscanner/tree/0.1.0-beta3 https://github.com/Hackerpilot/DCD/tree/0.3.0-beta4 On building this zip file: https://github.com/Hackerpilot/DCD/archive/0.3.0-beta4.zip It generates this compiler error: D:\projects\dcd\DCDbuild.bat D:\projects\dcd\DCDdmd -wi client.d messages.d stupidlog.d msgpack-d/src/msgpack.d -Imsgpack-d/src -release -inline -noboundscheck -O -ofdcd-client.exe D:\projects\dcd\DCDdmd actypes.d conversion/astconverter.d conversion/first.d conversion/second.d conversion/third.d autocomplete.d constants.d messages.d modulecache.d semantic.d server.d stupidlog.d dscanner/stdx/d/ast.d dscanner/stdx/d/entities.d dscanner/stdx/d/lexer.d dscanner/stdx/d/parser.d dscanner/stdx/lexer.d dscanner/stdx/allocator.d dscanner/formatter.d msgpack-d/src/msgpack.d -Imsgpack-d/src -Idscanner -wi -g -O -release -noboundscheck -inline -ofdcd-server.exe modulecache.d(138): Error: cannot implicitly convert expression (f.size()) of type ulong to uint Cheers Jussi
Re: D-Scanner 0.1.0-beta3 and DCD 0.3.0-beta4
On Thursday, 6 March 2014 at 19:11:19 UTC, Brian Schott wrote:
This is fixed on the master branch and will be included in the
next beta / final release.
The master branch zip file fixed the compile issue but the linker
now fails with this link error:
OPTLINK (R) for Win32 Release 8.00.15
Copyright (C) Digital Mars 1989-2013 All rights reserved.
http://www.digitalmars.com/ctg/optlink.html
dcd-server.obj(dcd-server)
Error 42: Symbol Undefined __aligned_malloc
dcd-server.obj(dcd-server)
Error 42: Symbol Undefined __aligned_free
dcd-server.obj(dcd-server)
Error 42: Symbol Undefined __aligned_realloc
--- errorlevel 3
The project was build as follows:
D:\projects\dcd\DCDdmd actypes.d conversion/astconverter.d
conversion/first.d conversion/second.d conversion/third.d au
tocomplete.d constants.d messages.d modulecache.d semantic.d
server.d stupidlog.d dscanner/stdx/d/ast.d dscanner/stdx/d/
entities.d dscanner/stdx/d/lexer.d dscanner/stdx/d/parser.d
dscanner/stdx/lexer.d dscanner/stdx/allocator.d dscanner/for
matter.d msgpack-d/src/msgpack.d -Imsgpack-d/src -Idscanner
-wi -g -O -release -noboundscheck -inline -ofdcd-server.exe
Using this version of the compiler:
DMD32 D Compiler v2.065
Copyright (c) 1999-2013 by Digital Mars written by Walter
Bright
Documentation: http://dlang.org/
Usage:
dmd files.d ... { -switch }
Cheers Jussi
Re: DCD 0.3.0-beta1 and DScanner 0.1.0-beta1
On Friday, 31 January 2014 at 08:26:49 UTC, Brian Schott wrote: Textadept, Zeus, Sublime, and Kate are up to date as far as I know. All the updated Zeus scripts can be found here: http://www.zeusedit.com/z300/dcd_scripts.zip These latest scripts also include the first cut of a Doc Comment script. While the dot, brace, intellisense and goto definition scripts seem to be working fine, the Doc Comment script still requires a few enhancements. The Doc Comment script will require a binary change to the Zeus editor itself and that should happen with the next release. Details on how to use all these scripts can be found here: http://www.zeusedit.com/zforum/viewtopic.php?t=7020
Re: DCD 0.3.0-beta1 and DScanner 0.1.0-beta1
On Thursday, 30 January 2014 at 04:18:12 UTC, Rory McGuire wrote: Could you try build with the dmd beta? The latest beta produced the same results. But with help form Brian Schott it turns out it just takes a lot longer to compile that one lexer.d file. So the fix is to just be very patient ;) For anyone that might be interested, I added some more details to the DCD bug report: https://github.com/Hackerpilot/DCD/issues/93
Re: DCD 0.3.0-beta1 and DScanner 0.1.0-beta1
On Tuesday, 28 January 2014 at 09:58:27 UTC, Brian Schott wrote: New DCD and DScanner betas are ready for testing. The Zeus IDE dot completion, parenthesis completion and goto declaration scripts have been updated and are all working fine with this latest DCD release. As yet there is no script for the new DCD Doc Comment display feature. For more details see here: http://www.zeusedit.com/zforum/viewtopic.php?t=7020
Re: DCD 0.3.0-beta1 and DScanner 0.1.0-beta1
On Tuesday, 28 January 2014 at 09:58:27 UTC, Brian Schott wrote:
New DCD and DScanner betas are ready for testing.
I'm no D expert so I'm not really sure if this is a bug with DCD
or
with the DMD compiler itself? I suspect it might be the later?
I was testing your latest DCD against the Zeus IDE but came across
the following issue when trying to build DCD.
I tried doing the build using the zip files as follows:
1) Download the dmd.2.064.2.zip from here:
http://dlang.org/download.html
2) Download the DCD, DScanner and msgpack source zip files from
these pages:
https://github.com/Hackerpilot/DCD/tree/0.3.0-beta1
https://github.com/Hackerpilot/Dscanner/tree/0.1.0-beta1
https://github.com/msgpack/msgpack-d
When I run the BUILD.BAT the client exe builds just fine but
the build of the server exe hangs.
So I played around with the BUILD.BAT and found the build was
hanging on this file:
dscanner/stdx/d/lexer.d
I then ran this command to just build that one file:
dmd -v -wi dscanner/stdx/d/lexer.d -Imsgpack-d/src -Idscanner
-O -release -noboundscheck -inline -ofdcd-server.exe
That command gives the compiler trace output shown below.
It appears that the dmd.exe hang on this file with this as the
last
line of trace output:
TTY_FUNCTION__, __TIME__, __TIMESTAMP__, __traits,
__vector, __VENDOR__, __VERSION__]).advance
The task manager shows the dmd.exe running but just continually
consuming more and more memory.
Compiler Trace Output
-
NOTE: Some excessive trace output trimmed with ... characters.
D:\projects\dcd\DCD-0.3.0-beta2dmd -v -wi
dscanner/stdx/d/lexer.d -Imsgpack-d/src -Idscanner -O -release
-noboundscheck
-inline -ofdcd-server.exe
binaryc:\dmd2\windows\bin\dmd.exe
version v2.064
configc:\dmd2\windows\bin\sc.ini
parse lexer
importall lexer
importstd.uni
(c:\dmd2\windows\bin\..\..\src\phobos\std\uni.d)
...
importcore.sys.windows.windows
(c:\dmd2\windows\bin\..\..\src\druntime\import\core\sys\windows\windows.d)
importstdx.lexer(dscanner\stdx\lexer.d)
semantic lexer
semantic2 lexer
semantic3 lexer
importstd.stdio
(c:\dmd2\windows\bin\..\..\src\phobos\std\stdio.d)
...
importstd.internal.uni_tab
(c:\dmd2\windows\bin\..\..\src\phobos\std\internal\uni_tab.d)
semantic3 lexer
...
semantic3 utf
semantic3 uni
importstd.internal.unicode_comp
(c:\dmd2\windows\bin\..\..\src\phobos\std\internal\unicode_comp.d)
...
importstd.internal.unicode_decomp
(c:\dmd2\windows\bin\..\..\src\phobos\std\internal\unicode_decomp.d)
semantic3 unicode_tables
...
inline scan lexer
code lexer
function stdx.d.lexer.LexerConfig.__xopEquals
...
function stdx.d.lexer.DLexer.Lexer!(ubyte,
TokenStructure!(ubyte, \x0a\x09string comment;\x0a\x0a\x09int
opCmp(size_t
i) const pure nothrow @safe {\x0a\x09\x09if (index i) return
-1;\x0a\x09\x09if (index i) return 1;\x0a\x09\x09return
...
with, __DATE__, __EOF__, __FILE__, __FUNCTION__,
__gshared, __LINE__, __MODULE__, __parameters, __PRE
TTY_FUNCTION__, __TIME__, __TIMESTAMP__, __traits,
__vector, __VENDOR__, __VERSION__]).generateMask
function stdx.d.lexer.DLexer.Lexer!(ubyte,
TokenStructure!(ubyte, \x0a\x09string comment;\x0a\x0a\x09int
opCmp(size_t
i) const pure nothrow @safe {\x0a\x09\x09if (index i) return
-1;\x0a\x09\x09if (index i) return 1;\x0a\x09\x09return
...
with, __DATE__, __EOF__, __FILE__, __FUNCTION__,
__gshared, __LINE__, __MODULE__, __parameters, __PRE
TTY_FUNCTION__, __TIME__, __TIMESTAMP__, __traits,
__vector, __VENDOR__, __VERSION__]).generateByteMask
function stdx.d.lexer.DLexer.Lexer!(ubyte,
TokenStructure!(ubyte, \x0a\x09string comment;\x0a\x0a\x09int
opCmp(size_t
i) const pure nothrow @safe {\x0a\x09\x09if (index i) return
-1;\x0a\x09\x09if (index i) return 1;\x0a\x09\x09return
...
of, ubyte, ucent, uint, ulong, union, unittest,
ushort, version, void, volatile, wchar, while,
with, __DATE__, __EOF__, __FILE__, __FUNCTION__,
__gshared, __LINE__, __MODULE__, __parameters, __PRE
TTY_FUNCTION__, __TIME__, __TIMESTAMP__, __traits,
__vector, __VENDOR__, __VERSION__]).generateCaseStatemen
ts
function stdx.d.lexer.DLexer.Lexer!(ubyte,
TokenStructure!(ubyte, \x0a\x09string comment;\x0a\x0a\x09int
opCmp(size_t
i) const pure nothrow @safe {\x0a\x09\x09if (index i) return
-1;\x0a\x09\x09if (index i) return 1;\x0a\x09\x09return
...
with, __DATE__, __EOF__, __FILE__, __FUNCTION__,
__gshared, __LINE__, __MODULE__, __parameters, __PRE
TTY_FUNCTION__, __TIME__, __TIMESTAMP__, __traits,
__vector, __VENDOR__, __VERSION__]).printCase
function stdx.d.lexer.DLexer.Lexer!(ubyte,
TokenStructure!(ubyte, \x0a\x09string comment;\x0a\x0a\x09int
opCmp(size_t
i) const pure nothrow @safe {\x0a\x09\x09if (index i) return
-1;\x0a\x09\x09if (index i) return 1;\x0a\x09\x09return
...
with, __DATE__, __EOF__, __FILE__, __FUNCTION__,
__gshared, __LINE__, __MODULE__, __parameters, __PRE
TTY_FUNCTION__, __TIME__, __TIMESTAMP__, __traits,
__vector, __VENDOR__, __VERSION__]).front
function
Re: DCD 0.3.0-beta1 and DScanner 0.1.0-beta1
Created this issue: https://github.com/Hackerpilot/DCD/issues/93
Re: DCD 0.2.0 Released
On Wednesday, 13 November 2013 at 19:40:08 UTC, Brian Schott wrote: * Only the Textadept module has support for go-to-declaration at the moment. FYI, the dcd_lookup.py Python script found on this page: http://www.zeusedit.com/zforum/viewtopic.php?t=7020 implements the *go-to-declaration* feature for the Zeus IDE.
Re: Let's give a honor to dead giants!
On Friday, 20 April 2012 at 03:33:43 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: One thing I miss, though, is ctags support for D. Here are the changes I made to the Exuburant ctags so it would do D language tagging. http://www.zeusedit.com/z300/ctags_src.zip These changes where made quite some so that the Zeus IDE would tag D code, so I'm not sure how well it handles the latest D 2.0 language changes.
Re: IDE Support for D
On Friday, 6 April 2012 at 23:45:49 UTC, Manu wrote: Fair enough I guess, but I'm a customer. I work commercially, and I'd happily pay money for tools that work. On Windows, the Zeus editor/IDE has support for the D language: http://www.zeusedit.com/zforum/viewtopic.php?t=2645 Sadly, I can't offer any significant amount of my own time Any Zeus bug reports are more than welcome ;) NOTE: Zeus is shareware
Re: Just starting out
J Arrizza Wrote: If that doesn't play, I'll stick with UltraEdit FWIW, Zeus is another Windows based editor and it is D language aware. It does syntax highlighting, class browsing, code folding etc. http://www.zeusedit.com/d.html It is also pretty easy to setup Zeus to run the DMD compiler inside the Zeus IDE. http://www.zeusedit.com/zforum/viewtopic.php?t=2645 Cheers Jussi
Re: std.path review: update
Lars T. Kyllingstad Wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:16:04 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Any .NET programmers out there? Can you please tell me what the
following functions return?
System.IO.Path.GetDirectoryName(\\foo\bar)
System.IO.Path.GetPathRoot(\\foo\bar\baz)
This code:
using System;
namespace Test
{
static class Program
{
[STAThread]
static void Main()
{
string test;
test = @\\foo\bar\;
Console.WriteLine(System.IO.Path.GetDirectoryName( + test + ));
Console.WriteLine(System.IO.Path.GetDirectoryName(test));
test = @\\foo\bar;
Console.WriteLine(System.IO.Path.GetDirectoryName( + test + ));
Console.WriteLine(System.IO.Path.GetDirectoryName(test));
test = @\\foo\bar\baz;
Console.WriteLine(System.IO.Path.GetDirectoryName( + test + ));
Console.WriteLine(System.IO.Path.GetPathRoot(test));
}
}
}
produced this output:
C:\temptest.exe
System.IO.Path.GetDirectoryName(\\foo\bar\)
\\foo\bar
System.IO.Path.GetDirectoryName(\\foo\bar)
System.IO.Path.GetDirectoryName(\\foo\bar\baz)
\\foo\bar
Cheers Jussi
Re: [OT] Spaces/tabs (Was: simple display (from: GUI library for
Bruno Medeiros Wrote: Why would editors not allow you to enter that right? I was wondering the same thing? Works fine in Eclipse, again because when it auto-indents on Enter, it uses the indentation of the previous line. :) It also worked fine in Zeus, because it too uses this same Enter key logic.
Re: If invalid string should crash(was:string need to be robust)
%u Wrote: I agree with a), but not b), Can't find anything in unicode standard says you can use the low surrogate like that According to: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ According to ISO 10646-1:2000, sections D.7 and 2.3c, a device receiving UTF-8 shall interpret a malformed sequence in the same way that it interprets a character that is outside the adopted subset and characters that are not within the adopted subset shall be indicated to the user by a receiving device. A quite commonly used approach in UTF-8 decoders is to replace any malformed UTF-8 sequence by a replacement character (U+FFFD), which looks a bit like an inverted question mark, or a similar symbol. Refer to this file for the above quote: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/examples/UTF-8-test.txt
Re: Phobos 2.051 CHM Help File
Joel Christensen Wrote: I just get Navigation to the webpage was canceled what ever I've click on in the left window. On 24-Jan-11 8:50 PM, Jussi Jumppanen wrote: For any one that might be interested, here's a Phobos 2.051 help file in Windows CHM format: http://www.zeusedit.com/z300/phobos.2.051.zip Seems to work for me. When I on this link (from above): http://www.zeusedit.com/z300/phobos.2.051.zip I get the file save explorer window. Cheers Jussi
Phobos 2.051 CHM Help File
For any one that might be interested, here's a Phobos 2.051 help file in Windows CHM format: http://www.zeusedit.com/z300/phobos.2.051.zip
Re: null [re: spec#]
so Wrote: At initialization rvalue should not contain anything about lvalue, this is absurd. That may well be the case. I was only pointing out that as far as the Microsoft compiler is concerned, saying the code: 'compiles with no warning, no error, nothing...' is incorrect. It will issue a warning even if the default warning level of 1 is used. Now as to question whether or not this is a smart way to handle the situation, that is a totally different discussion all together;)
Re: @property
Max Samukha Wrote: I don't think the rule applies universally. For example, .NET is full of functions starting with Set/Get that are not properties because they perform complex/lengthy computations or for some other washy reason. In .Net it is generally not a good idea to write a getter property that changes the object in any way (i.e. they should be written as pure read only). And why is that you ask? Because when you watch a object in the debugger the debugger extracts the object debug information by calling the these getter properties. So if the object properties are written badly and change the object, then by just adding that object to a watch window or hovering over it with the mouse will result in the corruption of the object. This can make for some very interesting debugging.
Re: [feedback] folding in scintilla
Andrej Mitrovic Wrote: Personally, I would prefer the left and right brace to stay on the same line as the function definition, and maybe add an elipsis between them so I can tell that function is folded just by looking at the code. That's a bit like how Zeus does it's folding: http://www.zeusedit.com/images/lookfold.png
Re: Solution for Fatal flaw in D design which is holding back widespread adoption(tm)
Nick Sabalausky Wrote: I was thinking of it as whole-programming-world kind of thing not specific to any langauge, kind of like how UTF has been replacing ASCII and code pages (although this would use UTF). Basically kind of like a programmer's RTF (although it obviously wouldn't involve setting fonts and colors, but rather things like tab settings). You mean something like PTSC - http://www.synchro.net/ptsc_hdr.html
Re: Compiler: Size of generated executable file
Lutger Wrote: Funny enough distributing dll's alongside the app is exactly what a lot of windows apps do, to prevent dll hell or satisy some license. If the Windows application is developed correctly in that it is design to use the Windows Side-by-side assembly feature: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Side-by-side_assembly then provided the developer does not stuff up the manifest, DLL hell is pretty much a non event.
Re: Compiler as a service in C# 4.0
Nick Sabalausky Wrote: I thought C# compiling was already part of the .NET library...? It is. Class: CSharpCodeProvider Namespace: Microsoft.CSharp Assembly: System (in System.dll) Provides access to instances of the C# code generator and code compiler.
Re: How is D doing?
IkeaTheSofa Wrote: Can't run 'C:\D\dmd\dmd\bin\..\..\dm\bin\link.exe', check PATH ... Can anyone decipher this? The PATH is an environment variable that the system uses to locate executables. You can set the PATH environment variable using the Start Button, selecting the Settings, Control Panel menu, selecting the System icon and editing the environment variables found on the Advanced tab. What you need to do is add the DMD installation bin folder to this PATH environment variable. Any suggestions for a begginer(in general)? I also can not get the ecliseD plugin to work, but thats a different issue. FWIW here is a simple tutorial on how to get the D compiler to run from within the Zeus editor: http://www.zeusedit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2465 This tutorial also goes into details on setting up the PATH.
Re: IDE for D? Recommendations?
AJ Wrote: Anyone have recommendations for which IDE to use to do an evaluation of D with? On the Windows platform, with a minimal amount of configuration the Zeus IDE will quite happily run the D compiler: http://www.zeusedit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2465 NOTE: Zeus is shareware Jussi Jumppanen Author: Zeus for Windows IDE
Re: looking for an IDE
Phil Deets Wrote: Is there a Windows IDE with support for D2 debugging, building, The Zeus IDE can be easily configured to run the D compiler or any of the build tools: http://www.zeusedit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2465 and basic code navigation (such as go to definition)? Zeus comes with a modified version of ctags meaning it can generate tag information for the D language. This tag information is used to drive the code navigation, class browsing and intelisensing features. I made these ctags changes quite some time ago changes when there was no D2 so I am not sure if this tagger stil works for D2. For any one that is inerested her are my ctags code changes: htp://www.zeusedit.com/z300/ctags_src.zip NOTE: Zeus is shareware Jussi Jumppanen Author: Zeus IDE
Re: Notepad++
Stewart Gordon Wrote: Or maybe I should just go back to TextPad (which isn't perfect either) and put up with its not supporting Unicode FWIW Zeus is very similar to TextPad in feature set and the latest version also adds support for Unicode/UTF8. http://www.zeusedit.com/ It will do D syntax highlighting and code folding out of the box. It also comes with a version of ctags.exe made with these changes specifically for the D languages: http://www.zeusedit.com/z300/ctags_src.zip meaning it can produce tags infomation for your D source files. NOTE: Zeus like TextPad is shareware. Jussi Jumppanen Author: Zeus for Windows
Re: Dynamic D Library
BCS Wrote: If I'm understanding the situation correctly, what you just described is ONLY a problem on Windows and only because of a design flaw in the way DLL's work. That might be well be the case. But to basically then say that when developing with D on Windows it is highly recommended that DLL's are not used will just end up sounding like limitation of D and not of Windows DLLs. Windows developers know languages like C/C++, C#, Visual Basic, in fact almost any language you care to name, have no trouble working with DLLs so the question they will be asking is why should D?
Re: Oh Dear
Rainer Deyke Wrote: Integer division in Python uses floor division instead of truncated division, and to the best of my knowledge has always used floor division. Based on the results produced by Python 2.6.2 and Python 1.5.1 this does appear to be the case: Python Version: 2.6.2 (r262:71600, Jul 1 2009, 22:22:20) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] 8 // 3 = 2 8 // (-3)= -3 (-8) // 3 = -3 (-8) // (-3)= 2 8 % 3 = 2 8 % (-3) = -1 (-8) % 3 = 1 (-8) % (-3) = -2 8 / 3 = 2 8 / (-3) = -3 (-8) / 3 = -3 (-8) / (-3) = 2 8 % 3 = 2 8 % (-3) = -1 (-8) % 3 = 1 (-8) % (-3) = -2 Python Version: 1.5.1 (#0, Sep 11 2002, 21:19:56) [MSC 32 bit (Intel)] 8 / 3 = 2 8 / (-3) = -3 (-8) / 3 = -3 (-8) / (-3) = 2 8 % 3 = 2 8 % (-3) = -1 (-8) % 3 = 1 (-8) % (-3) = -2 Cheers Jussi Note: These results where created by running the Zeus/Python script shown below using a very old version of the Zeus and the recent version of Zeus. import sys import zeus def key_macro(): zeus.screen_update_disable() zeus.FileNew() zeus.write(Python Version: + sys.version); # This only works for 2.6.2 # zeus.write(\n\n) # zeus.write( 8 // 3 = + str( 8 // 3 ) + \n, 0) # zeus.write( 8 // (-3)= + str( 8 // (-3)) + \n, 0) # zeus.write((-8) // 3 = + str((-8) // 3 ) + \n, 0) # zeus.write((-8) // (-3)= + str((-8) // (-3)) + \n, 0) # zeus.write( 8 % 3 = + str( 8 % 3 ) + \n, 0) # zeus.write( 8 % (-3) = + str( 8 % (-3) ) + \n, 0) # zeus.write((-8) % 3 = + str((-8) % 3 ) + \n, 0) # zeus.write((-8) % (-3) = + str((-8) % (-3) ) + \n, 0) zeus.write(\n\n) zeus.write( 8 / 3 = + str( 8 / 3 ) + \n, 0) zeus.write( 8 / (-3) = + str( 8 / (-3)) + \n, 0) zeus.write((-8) / 3 = + str((-8) / 3 ) + \n, 0) zeus.write((-8) / (-3) = + str((-8) / (-3)) + \n, 0) zeus.write( 8 % 3 = + str( 8 % 3 ) + \n, 0) zeus.write( 8 % (-3) = + str( 8 % (-3) ) + \n, 0) zeus.write((-8) % 3 = + str((-8) % 3 ) + \n, 0) zeus.write((-8) % (-3) = + str((-8) % (-3) ) + \n, 0) zeus.screen_update_enable() zeus.screen_update() key_macro() # run the macro
Re: Any IDEs or editors that are compatible with D 2.0?
Matt Nawrocki Wrote: Hi... are there any IDEs or editors out there that support DMD 2.0 yet? I am having a hard time finding a good one. Thanks! On the Windows platform there is the Zeus editor/IDE: http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?EditorSupport/ZeusForWindows Zeus is a shareware editor that also has quite few IDE like features. The current installer will be missing a few D2 keywords but they can be very easily added by hand.
Re: OT: on IDEs and code writing on steroids
BCS Wrote:
What I want is a language where most of the time you build
a project from only the information in the source code.
There is nothing in C# that stops you doing exactly this.
You can build this Simple.cs file:
using System;
using System.Windows.Forms;
namespace SimpleApplication
{
static class Program
{
[STAThread]
static void Main()
{
MessageBox.Show(Hello World!, C# Application,
MessageBoxButtons.OK,
MessageBoxIcon.Information);
}
}
}
to create a Simple.exe using nothing but this command line:
csc.exe /r:System.dll; D:\temp\simple.cs
What I don't want is a language where the only way to keep track
of the information you need to build a project, is with an external
data file.
People have been developing projects using an external data file
for decades. It's called the make file.
I don't want that because the only practical way to do that is _force_
the programmer to use an IDE and have it maintain that file.
What exactly is it about C# that makes you think you are FORCED
to use an IDE to write the code?
MSBuild.exe is nothing than Microsoft's replacement to make.exe.
It is nothing more than a version of make.exe that takes XML
make files as it's input.
Re: OT: on IDEs and code writing on steroids
BCS Wrote: Has anyone ever tried building a c# project without an IDE? Yes. I don't even know if it can be done. It is actually very easy to do: http://www.zeusedit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2518 and it is even easier if you have a simple 'one file', throw away project: http://www.zeusedit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1235 Yes you can trigger a build from the command line, but setting up a project without it would require hand editing of XML (yuck) and the build tool IS visual studio. It is true that Visual Studio creates XML project/solution files and the contents of these files is overly complex. But these XML files are Visual Studio specific and a lot of their complexity comes from the fact that they contain extra information that is only needed by the IDE. If you use the MsBuild approach the amount of XML that is needed to create a project/solution is much smaller and in general the XML is fairly trivial.
Re: why Unix?
Jason House Wrote: For example, as an emacs user, I can easilly program for an hour without touching my mouse. I would say 'not using the mouse' is clear sign the programmer is coding using a programmer's editor and not a modern day IDE. I would also say many Windows programmers are completely lost without their IDE, and this can makes them less productive as a developer. They could make themselves better programmers by overcoming their addiction to the IDE. http://www.charlespetzold.com/etc/DoesVisualStudioRotTheMind.html But programming on Windows without a mouse driven, language specific IDE, using nothing but the command line and a good editor is possible and really quite easy to do. As a commandline utility, it can be combined with other stuff such as ls, sort, grep, sed, awk, etc... I don't know if I'd start there though... Replace ls with dir, download the Win32 version of grep, sed, awk and you can run all those tools just fine from the Windows command line, or from within any decent editor. You don't have to go to Unix to find the command line.
Re: Eric S. Raymond on GPL and BSD licenses. Microsoft coming to
Yigal Chripun Wrote: That is why there are many successful companies that base their business model on free licenses like the GPL and zero companies that use the BSD. The Apple OS X is a BSD derivative: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X Mac OS X is based upon the Mach kernel.[7] Certain parts from FreeBSD's and NetBSD's implementation of Unix were incorporated in Nextstep, the core of Mac OS X.
Re: OT -- Re: random cover of a range
Yigal Chripun Wrote: Denis Koroskin wrote: I've heard many Jews refuse to do the blood transfusion even if it costs them their life. Where did you hear that? I'm not sure about the Jewish faith but Jehovah's Witnesses believe the Bible prohibits the accepting of blood and that to do so is a sin. Many a Jehovah's Witnesses have died because of this belief.
