Re: Video: Generic Programming Galore using D @ Strange Loop 2011

2012-04-18 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On 4/18/12, SomeDude  wrote:
> On Tuesday, 17 April 2012 at 08:00:36 UTC, Denis Shelomovskij
> wrote:
>>
>> It's pity that a video is read-only and it isn't easy to fix
>> slips of the tongue like this one. Maybe some notes can be
>> added?
>>
>> Anyway, these (Andrei's and Walter's) videos are too good to
>> not list them on the site.
>
> I've cleaned up the wiki a bit and added them:
> http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?WhySwitch

You could actually add them here and link to it:
http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?Videos
I made that page a long while ago but I didn't really know where to
link it from, so I just put it in the first tab I found (The D
Community: http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?NeighborHood)


Re: Video: Generic Programming Galore using D @ Strange Loop 2011

2012-04-18 Thread Jesse Phillips

On Wednesday, 18 April 2012 at 18:41:05 UTC, SomeDude wrote:


I've cleaned up the wiki a bit and added them:
http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?WhySwitch


And thank you for doing that.


Re: Video: Generic Programming Galore using D @ Strange Loop 2011

2012-04-18 Thread SomeDude
On Tuesday, 17 April 2012 at 08:00:36 UTC, Denis Shelomovskij 
wrote:


It's pity that a video is read-only and it isn't easy to fix 
slips of the tongue like this one. Maybe some notes can be 
added?


Anyway, these (Andrei's and Walter's) videos are too good to 
not list them on the site.


I've cleaned up the wiki a bit and added them:
http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?WhySwitch




Re: Pull requests processing issue

2012-04-18 Thread SomeDude

On Wednesday, 18 April 2012 at 09:00:59 UTC, Trass3r wrote:
I think the problem of ~100 open pull requests needs to be 
faced better. People that see their patches rot in that list 
probably don't feel rewarded enough to submit more patches.


So true. I won't do any further work if it's in vain anyway.
Also I regularly have to rebase my one cause of conflicts, 
which is annoying.


I really wonder what Walter's doing. Is he still running the 
whole testsuite instead of relying on the autotester?


Well, I've seen at least one regression in D.learn from 2.058 to 
2.059 and that doesn't give me much confidence in what random 
people are doing when they are submitting their patches.


So instead of bitching about what Walter's doing, people should 
be more careful what THEY are doing.


Re: »Haskell vs. D« backstage discussion featuring Andrei and Walter at Lang.NEXT

2012-04-18 Thread Brad Anderson

On Wednesday, 18 April 2012 at 17:05:08 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:

On 4/17/2012 9:00 PM, bearophile wrote:
> I think the problem of ~100 open pull requests needs to be
faced better. People
> that see their patches rot in that list probably don't feel
rewarded enough to
> submit more patches.


Consider that 8 out of 9 submitted pull requests for dmd have 
been pulled, and the current unpulled list does not include 
solutions for issues people are regarding as critical blockers.


It might be a good policy to have the submitter (or even 
yourself) close pull requests that aren't ready for merging and 
reopen them once they are ready to be reviewed. This would help 
make the queue more manageable and easier to see what's ready to 
consider and what is not (it's a shame pull requests don't have 
simple tagging/labeling like GitHub's issues).


Regards,
Brad Anderson


Re: »Haskell vs. D« backstage discussion featuring Andrei and Walter at Lang.NEXT

2012-04-18 Thread Adam D. Ruppe

On Wednesday, 18 April 2012 at 17:05:08 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Consider that 8 out of 9 submitted pull requests for dmd have 
been pulled


Another thing to consider is some of them are waiting
for other reasons.

My pull requests, for example, are waiting on ME to
address a comment and I haven't gotten around to it yet.

I don't think you can tell that by looking at it in github.
Who knows how many others are in a similar condition.


Re: »Haskell vs. D« backstage discussion featuring Andrei and Walter at Lang.NEXT

2012-04-18 Thread Walter Bright

On 4/17/2012 9:00 PM, bearophile wrote:
> I think the problem of ~100 open pull requests needs to be faced better. 
People
> that see their patches rot in that list probably don't feel rewarded enough to
> submit more patches.


Consider that 8 out of 9 submitted pull requests for dmd have been pulled, and 
the current unpulled list does not include solutions for issues people are 
regarding as critical blockers.


Re: »Haskell vs. D« backstage discussion featuring Andrei and Walter at Lang.NEXT

2012-04-18 Thread deadalnix

Le 18/04/2012 00:49, David Nadlinger a écrit :

Another video from Lang.NEXT 2012 went live recently: [1]. Erik Meijer
is joined by Andrew Adams-Moran, Walter and Andrei to discuss various
topics surrounding D and Haskell. Most of the things covered probably
aren't particularly new to most of the people here, but publicity for D
is alway nice to see (also don't miss Andrei's humorous remark on the
editor war).

One topic I found very interesting, but which was unfortunately barely
covered within the constrained time, is the question about what »dirty
laundry« is there for D, the language, right now (i.e. features/aspects
that turned out to be more of a liability than profit). Sure, bit is an
example, but that has been disposed of a long time ago. What has piled
up in the basket since then?

David


[1]
http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Alexandrescu-Bright-Meijer-Moran-Pure-versus-Native-and-much-more



yum on debian systems 


Re: Pull requests processing issue

2012-04-18 Thread Don Clugston

On 18/04/12 12:19, Alex Rønne Petersen wrote:

On 18-04-2012 11:00, Trass3r wrote:

I think the problem of ~100 open pull requests needs to be faced
better. People that see their patches rot in that list probably don't
feel rewarded enough to submit more patches.


So true. I won't do any further work if it's in vain anyway.
Also I regularly have to rebase my one cause of conflicts, which is
annoying.

I really wonder what Walter's doing. Is he still running the whole
testsuite instead of relying on the autotester?


Just looking at the auto tester, there seems to be tons of stuff that
can readily be merged...



One problem is github. IMHO github's pull requests are quite ridiculous, 
there is no way to prioritize them.
There are quite a lot of pull requests in there which are doubtful, 
high-risk, or require a lot of time to evaluate. Currently, we don't 
have a way to deal with them.


But, the announce list is not the appropriate place for this discussion.
Please move to the main list if you want to comment further.


Re: Pull requests processing issue

2012-04-18 Thread Alex Rønne Petersen

On 18-04-2012 11:00, Trass3r wrote:

I think the problem of ~100 open pull requests needs to be faced
better. People that see their patches rot in that list probably don't
feel rewarded enough to submit more patches.


So true. I won't do any further work if it's in vain anyway.
Also I regularly have to rebase my one cause of conflicts, which is
annoying.

I really wonder what Walter's doing. Is he still running the whole
testsuite instead of relying on the autotester?


Just looking at the auto tester, there seems to be tons of stuff that 
can readily be merged...


--
- Alex


Pull requests processing issue

2012-04-18 Thread Trass3r
I think the problem of ~100 open pull requests needs to be faced better.  
People that see their patches rot in that list probably don't feel  
rewarded enough to submit more patches.


So true. I won't do any further work if it's in vain anyway.
Also I regularly have to rebase my one cause of conflicts, which is  
annoying.


I really wonder what Walter's doing. Is he still running the whole  
testsuite instead of relying on the autotester?