Re: ApplyYourDLang - A YouTube channel for D introduction videos

2014-02-27 Thread simendsjo

On 02/27/2014 12:51 AM, deadalnix wrote:

On Sunday, 23 February 2014 at 22:07:39 UTC, simendsjo wrote:

The cat's out of the bag..

http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1ypg91/getting_started_with_d_and_vibed/


We didn't want to announce the site before we had more videos, but it
has found its way to reddits frontpage.


Watching it right now. Basic but really nice !


Thanks. Aimed at beginners to D. Only the first video might be of 
interest to people here, the rest are even more basic and probably 
better suited for people that doesn't know much programming at all.


Re: ApplyYourDLang - A YouTube channel for D introduction videos

2014-02-27 Thread Mengu

On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 08:15:26 UTC, simendsjo wrote:

On 02/27/2014 12:51 AM, deadalnix wrote:

On Sunday, 23 February 2014 at 22:07:39 UTC, simendsjo wrote:

The cat's out of the bag..

http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1ypg91/getting_started_with_d_and_vibed/


We didn't want to announce the site before we had more 
videos, but it

has found its way to reddits frontpage.


Watching it right now. Basic but really nice !


Thanks. Aimed at beginners to D. Only the first video might be 
of interest to people here, the rest are even more basic and 
probably better suited for people that doesn't know much 
programming at all.


keep 'em coming.


Re: DigitalMars' GSoC application has been rejected

2014-02-27 Thread Craig Dillabaugh
On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 02:34:53 UTC, Andrei 
Alexandrescu wrote:
Unfortunately we won't participate in GSoC this year. The 
decision was not surprising - our application has been rejected.


Sadly there are lots of things we could have done better. Our 
application has been a low-priority side job for Walter and 
myself and as such its quality has suffered greatly.


GSoC applications are a great example of things where one or 
more community members can have a large impact on D's well 
being by offloading a parallelizable work from the two of us.


Please consider taking a leadership role for GSoC 2015.


Andrei


How much time did you spend on the application this year?  How 
much time do you think would be needed to put together a good 
quality proposal?




Re: DigitalMars' GSoC application has been rejected

2014-02-27 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu

On 2/27/14, 10:10 AM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 02:34:53 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

Unfortunately we won't participate in GSoC this year. The decision was
not surprising - our application has been rejected.

Sadly there are lots of things we could have done better. Our
application has been a low-priority side job for Walter and myself and
as such its quality has suffered greatly.

GSoC applications are a great example of things where one or more
community members can have a large impact on D's well being by
offloading a parallelizable work from the two of us.

Please consider taking a leadership role for GSoC 2015.


Andrei


How much time did you spend on the application this year?  How much time
do you think would be needed to put together a good quality proposal?


Walter and I pleaded that the other completes the application, with me 
saying I don't have the time and him saying he's not suited for the job. 
In the end I won and he spent a couple of hours drafting a proposal, 
which was indeed bad. I spent maybe an hour a late evening trying to 
improve the proposal and that was about it. Made no page on dlang.org 
and did nothing on the wiki ideas page (which I think was weak as well).


But sheer time spent is not essential here as the availability of mental 
cycles. When I do something right I think of it in small quanta all the 
time - showering, walking, running, whatever. So by the time I sit down 
to work on it I have ideas and plans already formed. The GSoC was the 
exact opposite - unprepared todo work vying for attention at the 
periphery of an already overflowing plate. There's no way I could have 
done a good job at it.


For better or worse Walter and I are the bottlenecks on a lot of 
D-related stuff. (Just look at http://goo.gl/jGYzir which is developing 
a nice tenure as a tab in my web browser.) Kenji wrote me an email 
months ago asking for my take on DIP49, and has done a lot of legwork 
before I came back to him saying we need a radical simplification. No 
wonder he wouldn't answer my emails. Whenever anything comes, I need to 
act managerial - absorb context quickly, make a decision, delegate 
details, move on.


There's just too much important AND urgent stuff going on right now in 
D, which gives a whole other perspective on the people who advise us on 
how to do things better, to dissolve into the shrubs when a very 
concrete opportunity to do something. From that angle, every single 
little thing that's parallelizable and off our plate (such as build 
system, auto tester, release management, GSoC, and such) is a double 
improvement for the language as a whole: once because that part gets 
done better, and twice because it frees us to better focus on other 
things. Concretely: there wasn't much time to work on allocators lately...



Thanks,

Andrei



Re: ApplyYourDLang - A YouTube channel for D introduction videos

2014-02-27 Thread Jacob Carlborg

On 2014-02-26 21:23, simendsjo wrote:


The video quality is good, isn't it? Or did you mean the content quality
(which is pretty poor)?


No, not the content, I'm referring to the video quality. Hmm, for some 
reason Youtube only displays it in 360p. If I download the video it's 
better. It's ok but not great. Why not 1080p?



The audio quality is due to using a laptop microphone. I haven't found a
way to increase the volume without uploading another video though. This
cannot replace the original, so all links would be invalidated.


If you want to do this a lot you should really get a real, external, 
microphone.


--
/Jacob Carlborg


Re: ApplyYourDLang - A YouTube channel for D introduction videos

2014-02-27 Thread Dicebot
On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 20:25:50 UTC, Jacob Carlborg 
wrote:

On 2014-02-26 21:23, simendsjo wrote:

The video quality is good, isn't it? Or did you mean the 
content quality

(which is pretty poor)?


No, not the content, I'm referring to the video quality. Hmm, 
for some reason Youtube only displays it in 360p. If I download 
the video it's better. It's ok but not great. Why not 1080p?


360p is default for embedded widget. You can chose better quality 
manually in player. Also after going full screen it will also 
adjust quality to screen resolution in a few seconds.


Re: ApplyYourDLang - A YouTube channel for D introduction videos

2014-02-27 Thread simendsjo

On 02/27/2014 09:25 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:

On 2014-02-26 21:23, simendsjo wrote:


The video quality is good, isn't it? Or did you mean the content quality
(which is pretty poor)?


No, not the content, I'm referring to the video quality. Hmm, for some
reason Youtube only displays it in 360p. If I download the video it's
better. It's ok but not great. Why not 1080p?


The audio quality is due to using a laptop microphone. I haven't found a
way to increase the volume without uploading another video though. This
cannot replace the original, so all links would be invalidated.


If you want to do this a lot you should really get a real, external,
microphone.



It's available in 1080p on YouTube. If I plan to do more of these, I 
should probably learn how to edit the videos too rather than using pause :)




Re: DigitalMars' GSoC application has been rejected

2014-02-27 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu

On 2/27/14, 11:11 AM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

One more question. Do you feel this is a job that someone who isn't
necessarily well versed in the various technologies could take on (in a
sort of manager role), or would you need someone who has the expertise
to evaluate various proposals.


Any motivated individual with little to moderate expertise can do it. 
The application is for the most part filling forms and creating prose. A 
person who's on top of things can prod contributors into submitting 
ideas, rally mentors, make sure the related web pages are in good shape, 
etc. etc. etc. To put things into perspective, we could have missed the 
deadline if the thing didn't bubble up to my level of consciousness.


Andrei




Re: DigitalMars' GSoC application has been rejected

2014-02-27 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu

On 2/27/14, 1:42 PM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 21:37:03 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

On 2/27/14, 11:11 AM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

One more question. Do you feel this is a job that someone who isn't
necessarily well versed in the various technologies could take on (in a
sort of manager role), or would you need someone who has the expertise
to evaluate various proposals.


Any motivated individual with little to moderate expertise can do it.
The application is for the most part filling forms and creating prose.
A person who's on top of things can prod contributors into submitting
ideas, rally mentors, make sure the related web pages are in good
shape, etc. etc. etc. To put things into perspective, we could have
missed the deadline if the thing didn't bubble up to my level of
consciousness.

Andrei


In that case, as Yoda would say:

Volunteer to prepare GSoC 2015 proposal I shall.

Do you have copies of past submissions as a guideline, or is it just
what is on the Wiki.


Congratulations and good luck! Stay tuned to the general GSoC process 
and I hope you'll be around in December :o).


Google doesn't save past submissions. We have our older gsoc pages on 
dlang.org and the wiki. I think Walter saved some form data.



Andrei



Re: DigitalMars' GSoC application has been rejected

2014-02-27 Thread Mathias LANG

On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 22:25:27 UTC, Brad Roberts wrote:
We can still do #2 without #1.  And we don't need google to 
make it happen.  How about trying a practice run despite not 
having google tossing in the funding?


If someone would want to contribute, what would be the right 
person to contact, or the right resource to turn to ?


I was looking to fix a (probably simple) bug in DMD but it's 
quite hard to grok 
(http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?DMDSourceGuide helps but 
it's a bit outdated).
Also, searching contributing in the wiki only yield GDC / LDC 
links.


Re: DigitalMars' GSoC application has been rejected

2014-02-27 Thread Mike
On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 18:47:37 UTC, Andrei 
Alexandrescu wrote:
For better or worse Walter and I are the bottlenecks on a lot 
of D-related stuff.


I would really like to help with this, and (I think) others would 
too.


The ideas for GSoC 2015 could start now.  I took the liberty of 
adding the ideas page (http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2015_Ideas).  
Add your ideas today!  Deadlines, call for mentors, link to GSoC 
application instructions should all be added now, if possible.


Help me help you:
The recent CONTRIBUTING.md for DLang.org helped me make a few 
updates to neglected areas of the website, and I have more coming.


The GDC Project Ideas page 
(http://wiki.dlang.org/GDC/ProjectIdeas) helped me add a little 
value to that project.  I revisit it periodically to find out 
What can I do today?


I realize the last thing you need is another suggestion, but 
perhaps something like these could be created for the D effort as 
a whole.  For example, what needs to be done to help prepare for 
DConf 2014?


Mike

P.S. Forgive me if all this has been beaten to death before. My 
sincere thanks for all you and Walter have done to give us D.  
I'm hoping for a career changer with this language.  God knows I 
need one.


Re: DigitalMars' GSoC application has been rejected

2014-02-27 Thread Mike
On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 23:21:29 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:

https://community.kde.org/Getinvolved/development
(at the bottom)

Experienced D developers, who feel they could use
on a specific project, or who would be otherwise interested in
taking on an 'apprentice' could list projects they would like
to see someone take on.  Interested developers could browse
through and see if any of the proposed projects piqued their
interest.


IMO this is EXACTLY what this effort needs.  I don't know what 
happened to the apprenticeship custom, but it needs a 
comeback...badly.  This is a great idea.  The apprentices this 
year will likely become the mentors of next year, and it will 
only accelerate.


Make a wiki page to get started.  Post an announcement.  People 
may be apprehensive at first, but I think it will catch on.  If 
it doesn't, no harm done.



However, that doesn't entirely fulfill #2 in your list.
The 'student' needs some motivation to complete the project
I suppose.  Perhaps a DConf T-shirt autographed by Walter and
Andrei or something :o)


I would do it simply for the benefit of education.  Lord knows 
it'd be a better return on my investment than an overpriced 
university.  It would also help my career to say that I worked 
under some of the prominent names in this community.


Mentors would benefit as well.  I'm sure Iain would love some 
help doing the 2.065.0 merge, yes?  They would learn some 
valuable leadership skills as well, and may actually enjoy the 
experience.  I greatly enjoyed the little mentoring I've done in 
my career.


I can only see good things coming out of such an effort, if it 
takes hold.  It's a superb idea.


Mike


Re: DigitalMars' GSoC application has been rejected

2014-02-27 Thread Craig Dillabaugh

On Friday, 28 February 2014 at 01:02:11 UTC, Mike wrote:
On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 18:47:37 UTC, Andrei 
Alexandrescu wrote:
For better or worse Walter and I are the bottlenecks on a lot 
of D-related stuff.


I would really like to help with this, and (I think) others 
would too.


The ideas for GSoC 2015 could start now.  I took the liberty of 
adding the ideas page (http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2015_Ideas).  
Add your ideas today!  Deadlines, call for mentors, link to 
GSoC application instructions should all be added now, if 
possible.


Help me help you:
The recent CONTRIBUTING.md for DLang.org helped me make a few 
updates to neglected areas of the website, and I have more 
coming.


The GDC Project Ideas page 
(http://wiki.dlang.org/GDC/ProjectIdeas) helped me add a little 
value to that project.  I revisit it periodically to find out 
What can I do today?


I realize the last thing you need is another suggestion, but 
perhaps something like these could be created for the D effort 
as a whole.  For example, what needs to be done to help prepare 
for DConf 2014?


Mike

P.S. Forgive me if all this has been beaten to death before. My 
sincere thanks for all you and Walter have done to give us D.  
I'm hoping for a career changer with this language.  God knows 
I need one.


Thanks for setting up the idea's page for GSoC 2015, that is a 
start.
As you suggested it would be good to have a general Help Wanted 
page, possibly with links to willing mentors.   It would seem to 
add some
such thing to the Wiki, possibly under the Get Involved 
section, then

role some of these ideas into the GSoC projects.


Re: DigitalMars' GSoC application has been rejected

2014-02-27 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu

On 2/27/14, 3:22 PM, Mathias LANG wrote:

On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 22:25:27 UTC, Brad Roberts wrote:

We can still do #2 without #1.  And we don't need google to make it
happen.  How about trying a practice run despite not having google
tossing in the funding?


If someone would want to contribute, what would be the right person to
contact, or the right resource to turn to ?


Probably kickstarter or similar would be a good possibility for 
well-defined projects of broad interest.


Andrei