[digitalradio] Re: FNpsk

[Vojtech Bubnik]

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Leigh L Klotz, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Vojtect OK1AK's PocketDigi may be the answer here, in the x86 version.  
> Especially if the cntrol gets done over TCP.
> Leigh/WA5ZNU

There is a file interface built in the desktop build of PocketDigi
similar to the one that gMFSK implements.

73, Vojtech OK1IAK

Re: [digitalradio] Te-Tec Jupiter

[Mark Milburn]

I'm no expert on these things, but I use a Jupiter and
it does quite well.  I have used it with MixW,
MultiPSK, Digipan and Zakanaka and no problems at all
except the usual fussiness about getting the audio
input adjusted right.  I use it regularly for HF
packet forwarding with MixW as the TNC and it really
shines.
73  Mark   KQ0I
Des Moines, Iowa


--- Walt DuBose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is anyone on the list using a Ten-Tec Juliter?
> 
> If so, I would be interested in its performance on
> sound card  digital modes.
> 
> Tnx & 73,
> 
> Walt/K5YFW
> 
> 
> 
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[digitalradio] Re: Te-Tec Jupiter

[Kurt]

Hi Walt, I use a Jupiter on the digital modes and have had no problem 
at all other then make sure you change to line in, instead of mic 
input. I use HRD,MMTTY/SSTV,IZ9BLY Hell/Stream,Multipsk software.
I have a Donner interface and connect to accessory jack on the rear of 
the radio.
If you have any specific questions, email me direct and I will see if I 
can answer them for you.

73 and Gud Luck
Kurt
K8YZK
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Walt DuBose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is anyone on the list using a Ten-Tec Juliter?
> 
> If so, I would be interested in its performance on sound card  
digital modes.
> 
> Tnx & 73,
> 
> Walt/K5YFW
>

Re: [digitalradio] Te-Tec Jupiter

[KV9U]

I had a Ten Tec Pegasus which is basically the precursor to the Jupiter, 
but strictly computer controlled. It was OK as a rig, but of course 
fairly low end as is the Jupiter. I am just amazed at the comments made 
by a number of hams as to how wonderful this equipment compares to other 
rigs.

I liked the ability to change the DSP filters to a number of presets. 
The DSP was not comparable to more expensive rigs, but was not too bad 
either. The IMD DR, which many consider to be the most important 
parameter, is quite poor as are many rigs in the under $1000 price 
class. The Jupiter has to be the most expensive transceiver for the 
performance delivered and I feel that I am being somewhat charitable 
when I say that. The eham reviews show a very low 4.3 rating with well 
over 100 reviews. This tells me that a lot of hams have purchased this 
unit, but found it well below average. Any rating on eham that is below 
4.5 and with a substantial number of reviews, suggests a problem. The 
Pegasus had a 4.7 rating with about 40 reviews and I think that was 
because of the new concept of one of the first DSP rigs with moderate 
cost ($900) at the time.

These rigs are relatively easy to interface because they are designed 
with a 5 pin DIN plug to handle line in and line out and PTT. This means 
you can set up keying via VOX. It is not always easy to set up but can 
be done. ICOM rigs can not do this unless you go through their 
microphone port which to me is completely unacceptable as I want to keep 
the digital modes through the data ports.

The main reason for trading my Pegasus in for an Argonaut V was to have 
a QRP type rig for fun (and the trade price after all those years for a 
"used" Argo was only about $150) and because Ten Tec abandoned these 
rigs and no longer updates them. They also never developed good software 
for the interface and expected you to buy a third party software which 
can get very expensive if you purchase an annual subscription. They gave 
you the impression that they would continue to develop and improve 
software for their rigs and they have completely failed in this regard. 
The real concern I had was that I may eventually do more with Linux OS 
and I am concerned that these rigs may be more orphan rigs since they 
are not the mainstream big three Japanese products.

I do find that that my ICOM 756 Pro 2 works a lot better than the Ten 
Tec product, but then you would expect it to considering the price 
difference.

73,

Rick, KV9U


Walt DuBose wrote:

>Is anyone on the list using a Ten-Tec Juliter?
>
>If so, I would be interested in its performance on sound card  digital modes.
>
>Tnx & 73,
>
>Walt/K5YFW
>
>  
>

[digitalradio] Re:CQ CH?

[Jeff Beiermann]

County Hunters? I know more are trying for the digital modes. 73,  
Jeff/wb0m

Re: [digitalradio] CQ CH?

[Jim Orcheson]

Try "County Hunters".

Jim  VA3JNO

Dave wrote:
> 
> 
> What is CQ CH? I'm used to seeing CQ WY, or CQ ID, or even CQ KL7, but
> CH has me puzzled. Just heard it on PSK31 on 30 meters.
> 
> Tnx es 73
> Dave
> KB3MOW
> 
> 

[digitalradio] PocketDigi and ATS-3A

[Vojtěch Bubník]

Hi gang.

In spirit of QRP digital operation, I plan to extend PocketDigi and ATS-3A 
firmware to support modulation of FSK modes (RTTY, MFSK16, Olivia, Domino) and 
PSK modes by the ATS-3A DDS directly.

Ron Pfeiffer N1ZSW donated his ATS-3A for my Pocket PC / DDS experiments! 
Thanks a lot, Ron!

73, Vojtech OK1IAK

Re: [digitalradio] PocketDigi and ATS-3A

[kd5nwa]

You might consider getting Michael Harnage W1MT to mirror you 
changes, he has several versions of the software available at his site.

<  URL:http://w1mt.qrpradio.com/  >


At 08:52 AM 2/12/2007, you wrote:
>Hi gang.
>
>In spirit of QRP digital operation, I plan to extend PocketDigi and 
>ATS-3A firmware to support modulation of FSK modes (RTTY, MFSK16, 
>Olivia, Domino) and PSK modes by the ATS-3A DDS directly.
>
>Ron Pfeiffer N1ZSW donated his ATS-3A for my Pocket PC / DDS 
>experiments! Thanks a lot, Ron!
>
>73, Vojtech OK1IAK
>


Cecil Bayona
KD5NWA
www.qrpradio.com www.hpsdr.com

'Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then 
beat you with experience.'  

[digitalradio] Can I get a rig with MORE?

[Peter G. Viscarola]

I work digital modes (PSK, RTTY, MFSK, Olivia, etc) almost exclusively. 

I also have a pretty low noise environment, living out in the country
and with my antenna (a dipole) almost 100' from the nearest RF noise
source.  Note that upgrading my antenna system is really not an option
at this point for a whole lot of reasons.

I presently have a TS-2000 and I like it a lot.  I like the ability to
use the IF DSP to narrow the passband from each side to isolate the
signal I want.  I've been pretty successful with it, too.  Given my
modest setup I'm rapidly closing-in on my first 100 for DXCC, after
being on HF for only about 4 months.

Could I gain some sensitivity/selectivity/better filtering by upgrading
my rig?   What rigs might folks suggest?   How about the SDR-1000?
Better?  Worse?  Something else?

I'm relatively new to HF, so I'm looking for some elmering I  suppose --
Is my rig doing as well as any?  Or, is a significant step up possible?

Again... I'm interested strictly in digital mode performance.  And,
again, while I'd *like* to put up a tower with a beam (and I *know* the
old adage about 1 dollar spent on antennas is worth 100 spent in teh
shack), that just can't happen (for any price I can pay) given my
location.

Thanks for your opinions,

de Peter K1PGV

RE: [digitalradio] Can I get a rig with MORE?

[DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA]

Peter,

IMHO, the SDR-1000 has some of the best specs. out and is the most configurable 
transceiver on the market.  I have seen the insides of the transceiver several 
times and the construction looks good.

But note that it is only controllable using MS NT (maybe), W2K, XP but I 
understand that there is a problem controlling it with Vista.  According to 
Felx Radio there is third party software to control the SDR-1000 with Linux but 
I'll be darned if I can find anything that gives steps 1, 2, 3, to take, to 
download, compile the application or configure the radio.

If a manufacturer claims that there is 3rd party software but can't tell you 
where it is, then I think they should not claim that there is such software and 
let it go at that.  For that reason I am leery of buying hardware that makes 
such claims.

I have seen demonstrations of the SDR-1000 and I have used the TS-1000/2000 
series radios and the SDR-1000 is most impressive against the Yaesu radios.

73,

Walt/K5YFW

-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter G. 
Viscarola
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 1:30 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] Can I get a rig with MORE?


I work digital modes (PSK, RTTY, MFSK, Olivia, etc) almost exclusively. 
I also have a pretty low noise environment, living out in the country and with 
my antenna (a dipole) almost 100' from the nearest RF noise source.  Note that 
upgrading my antenna system is really not an option at this point for a whole 
lot of reasons.
I presently have a TS-2000 and I like it a lot.  I like the ability to use the 
IF DSP to narrow the passband from each side to isolate the signal I want.  
I've been pretty successful with it, too.  Given my modest setup I'm rapidly 
closing-in on my first 100 for DXCC, after being on HF for only about 4 months.
Could I gain some sensitivity/selectivity/better filtering by upgrading my rig? 
  What rigs might folks suggest?   How about the SDR-1000?  Better?  Worse?  
Something else?
I'm relatively new to HF, so I'm looking for some elmering I  suppose -- Is my 
rig doing as well as any?  Or, is a significant step up possible?
Again... I'm interested strictly in digital mode performance.  And, again, 
while I'd *like* to put up a tower with a beam (and I *know* the old adage 
about 1 dollar spent on antennas is worth 100 spent in teh shack), that just 
can't happen (for any price I can pay) given my location.
Thanks for your opinions,
de Peter K1PGV
 

__ 

RE: [digitalradio] Ten-Tec Jupiter

[DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA]

Thanks for the comments.

The Jupiter now cost $1495 without an antenna tuner.

The SDR-1000 now cost $1499 without an antenna tuner.

The IC-746PRO now cost $1499 with an antenna tuner and they will through in a 
power supply.

I think that the 746 will do everything that the Jupiter will and probably 
almost as much as the SDR-1000 will do.

73,

Walt/K5YFW

-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of KV9U
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 8:43 AM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Te-Tec Jupiter


I had a Ten Tec Pegasus which is basically the precursor to the Jupiter, 
but strictly computer controlled. It was OK as a rig, but of course 
fairly low end as is the Jupiter. I am just amazed at the comments made 
by a number of hams as to how wonderful this equipment compares to other 
rigs.

I liked the ability to change the DSP filters to a number of presets. 
The DSP was not comparable to more expensive rigs, but was not too bad 
either. The IMD DR, which many consider to be the most important 
parameter, is quite poor as are many rigs in the under $1000 price 
class. The Jupiter has to be the most expensive transceiver for the 
performance delivered and I feel that I am being somewhat charitable 
when I say that. The eham reviews show a very low 4.3 rating with well 
over 100 reviews. This tells me that a lot of hams have purchased this 
unit, but found it well below average. Any rating on eham that is below 
4.5 and with a substantial number of reviews, suggests a problem. The 
Pegasus had a 4.7 rating with about 40 reviews and I think that was 
because of the new concept of one of the first DSP rigs with moderate 
cost ($900) at the time.

These rigs are relatively easy to interface because they are designed 
with a 5 pin DIN plug to handle line in and line out and PTT. This means 
you can set up keying via VOX. It is not always easy to set up but can 
be done. ICOM rigs can not do this unless you go through their 
microphone port which to me is completely unacceptable as I want to keep 
the digital modes through the data ports.

The main reason for trading my Pegasus in for an Argonaut V was to have 
a QRP type rig for fun (and the trade price after all those years for a 
"used" Argo was only about $150) and because Ten Tec abandoned these 
rigs and no longer updates them. They also never developed good software 
for the interface and expected you to buy a third party software which 
can get very expensive if you purchase an annual subscription. They gave 
you the impression that they would continue to develop and improve 
software for their rigs and they have completely failed in this regard. 
The real concern I had was that I may eventually do more with Linux OS 
and I am concerned that these rigs may be more orphan rigs since they 
are not the mainstream big three Japanese products.

I do find that that my ICOM 756 Pro 2 works a lot better than the Ten 
Tec product, but then you would expect it to considering the price 
difference.

73,

Rick, KV9U


Walt DuBose wrote:

>Is anyone on the list using a Ten-Tec Juliter?
>
>If so, I would be interested in its performance on sound card  digital modes.
>
>Tnx & 73,
>
>Walt/K5YFW
>
>  
>




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Our other groups:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 

 
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RE: [digitalradio] Ten-Tec Jupiter

[Les Warriner]

And my Pegasus with the W(N?)4PY software will work right along side 
them!! ($850.00) many years ago.


73

Les

At 01:43 PM 2/12/2007, you wrote:


Thanks for the comments.

The Jupiter now cost $1495 without an antenna tuner.

The SDR-1000 now cost $1499 without an antenna tuner.

The IC-746PRO now cost $1499 with an antenna tuner and they will 
through in a power supply.


I think that the 746 will do everything that the Jupiter will and 
probably almost as much as the SDR-1000 will do.


73,

Walt/K5YFW

-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of KV9U
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 8:43 AM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Te-Tec Jupiter

I had a Ten Tec Pegasus which is basically the precursor to the Jupiter,
but strictly computer controlled. It was OK as a rig, but of course
fairly low end as is the Jupiter. I am just amazed at the comments made
by a number of hams as to how wonderful this equipment compares to other
rigs.

I liked the ability to change the DSP filters to a number of presets.
The DSP was not comparable to more expensive rigs, but was not too bad
either. The IMD DR, which many consider to be the most important
parameter, is quite poor as are many rigs in the under $1000 price
class. The Jupiter has to be the most expensive transceiver for the
performance delivered and I feel that I am being somewhat charitable
when I say that. The eham reviews show a very low 4.3 rating with well
over 100 reviews. This tells me that a lot of hams have purchased this
unit, but found it well below average. Any rating on eham that is below
4.5 and with a substantial number of reviews, suggests a problem. The
Pegasus had a 4.7 rating with about 40 reviews and I think that was
because of the new concept of one of the first DSP rigs with moderate
cost ($900) at the time.

These rigs are relatively easy to interface because they are designed
with a 5 pin DIN plug to handle line in and line out and PTT. This means
you can set up keying via VOX. It is not always easy to set up but can
be done. ICOM rigs can not do this unless you go through their
microphone port which to me is completely unacceptable as I want to keep
the digital modes through the data ports.

The main reason for trading my Pegasus in for an Argonaut V was to have
a QRP type rig for fun (and the trade price after all those years for a
"used" Argo was only about $150) and because Ten Tec abandoned these
rigs and no longer updates them. They also never developed good software
for the interface and expected you to buy a third party software which
can get very expensive if you purchase an annual subscription. They gave
you the impression that they would continue to develop and improve
software for their rigs and they have completely failed in this regard.
The real concern I had was that I may eventually do more with Linux OS
and I am concerned that these rigs may be more orphan rigs since they
are not the mainstream big three Japanese products.

I do find that that my ICOM 756 Pro 2 works a lot better than the Ten
Tec product, but then you would expect it to considering the price
difference.

73,

Rick, KV9U

Walt DuBose wrote:

>Is anyone on the list using a Ten-Tec Juliter?
>
>If so, I would be interested in its performance on sound card digital modes.
>
>Tnx & 73,
>
>Walt/K5YFW
>
>
>

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Re: [digitalradio] Can I get a rig with MORE?

[Andrew O'Brien]

Peter,

I just bought the TS-2000 and my neighbor obtained an SDR-1000 recently.  I
think for purely cutting edge features, the SDR-1000 would be the rig that
would give you "more".  I decided not to buy it because I would have likely
needed a further investment of $1000 to upgrade to a professional sound card
and a PC with enough RAM and CPU power.  Software support for the SDR-1000
in digital modes is growing but there are still some that lack the full
support you usually see for other rigs.  In the SDR-1000 forum I saw a post
that suggested that one should view the SDR-1000 as a "work in progress", an
evolving experiment.  That was a year old post and I think it has evolved
quite well in the past year.

Andy K3UK


On 2/12/07, DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


  Peter,

IMHO, the SDR-1000 has some of the best specs. out and is the most
configurable transceiver on the market. I have seen the insides of the
transceiver several times and the construction looks good.

But note that it is only controllable using MS NT (maybe), W2K, XP but I
understand that there is a problem controlling it with Vista. According to
Felx Radio there is third party software to control the SDR-1000 with Linux
but I'll be darned if I can find anything that gives steps 1, 2, 3, to take,
to download, compile the application or configure the radio.

If a manufacturer claims that there is 3rd party software but can't tell
you where it is, then I think they should not claim that there is such
software and let it go at that. For that reason I am leery of buying
hardware that makes such claims.

I have seen demonstrations of the SDR-1000 and I have used the
TS-1000/2000 series radios and the SDR-1000 is most impressive against the
Yaesu radios.

73,

Walt/K5YFW

-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
digitalradio@yahoogroups.com ]On Behalf Of
Peter G. Viscarola
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 1:30 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [digitalradio] Can I get a rig with MORE?

I work digital modes (PSK, RTTY, MFSK, Olivia, etc) almost exclusively.
I also have a pretty low noise environment, living out in the country and
with my antenna (a dipole) almost 100' from the nearest RF noise source.
Note that upgrading my antenna system is really not an option at this point
for a whole lot of reasons.
I presently have a TS-2000 and I like it a lot. I like the ability to use
the IF DSP to narrow the passband from each side to isolate the signal I
want. I've been pretty successful with it, too. Given my modest setup I'm
rapidly closing-in on my first 100 for DXCC, after being on HF for only
about 4 months.
Could I gain some sensitivity/selectivity/better filtering by upgrading my
rig? What rigs might folks suggest? How about the SDR-1000? Better? Worse?
Something else?
I'm relatively new to HF, so I'm looking for some elmering I suppose -- Is
my rig doing as well as any? Or, is a significant step up possible?
Again... I'm interested strictly in digital mode performance. And, again,
while I'd *like* to put up a tower with a beam (and I *know* the old adage
about 1 dollar spent on antennas is worth 100 spent in teh shack), that just
can't happen (for any price I can pay) given my location.
Thanks for your opinions,
de Peter K1PGV


__






--
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Skype Me :  callto://andyobrien73
www.obriensweb.com

[digitalradio] TS-20000 Low/Hi cut DSP settings for digital modes ?

[Andrew O'Brien]

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Peter G. Viscarola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> I work digital modes (PSK, RTTY, MFSK, Olivia, etc) almost 
exclusively. 
> 
> I presently have a TS-2000 and I like it a lot.  I like the ability to
> use the IF DSP to narrow the passband from each side to isolate the
> signal I want. 


Peter and others.  I would be interested in others sharing their 
low/high cut filter settings for the Kenwood TS-2000 when using digital 
modes.  AA6YQ's Commander program has some great ability to store  
mode, frequency and hi/low filter settings.  I thought I would save 
myself some learning effort by stealing other people's settings.  Are 
there 2-3 standard settings you have found useful for the various 
digital DXing conditions?

Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] Can I get a rig with MORE?

[KV9U]

Peter,

Here is my thinking. You have a good all around multiband/multimode rig. 
It may have one of the poorest IMD Dynamic Range numbers for a rig in 
that price class (OK maybe in most any price class), 5 KHz @ 69 dB and 2 
KHz @ 57 dB, but it is a popular rig based upon the reasonably good eham 
rating of 4.5 and the very large number of reviews at > 300 so that says 
there is a lot of owner satisfaction.

If you are not having close in problems with nearby stations, you likely 
will not find other rigs to be all that much better considering the 
versatility you have. In other words, you would not likely work many 
other stations unless you were going for the really weak signals buried 
in noise and next to strong signals. Then a rig with a much better 
receiver would be needed such as the Ten Tec Orion or even Omni's.

73,

Rick, KV9U

Peter G. Viscarola wrote:

>I work digital modes (PSK, RTTY, MFSK, Olivia, etc) almost exclusively. 
>
>I also have a pretty low noise environment, living out in the country
>and with my antenna (a dipole) almost 100' from the nearest RF noise
>source.  Note that upgrading my antenna system is really not an option
>at this point for a whole lot of reasons.
>
>I presently have a TS-2000 and I like it a lot.  I like the ability to
>use the IF DSP to narrow the passband from each side to isolate the
>signal I want.  I've been pretty successful with it, too.  Given my
>modest setup I'm rapidly closing-in on my first 100 for DXCC, after
>being on HF for only about 4 months.
>
>Could I gain some sensitivity/selectivity/better filtering by upgrading
>my rig?   What rigs might folks suggest?   How about the SDR-1000?
>Better?  Worse?  Something else?
>
>I'm relatively new to HF, so I'm looking for some elmering I  suppose --
>Is my rig doing as well as any?  Or, is a significant step up possible?
>
>Again... I'm interested strictly in digital mode performance.  And,
>again, while I'd *like* to put up a tower with a beam (and I *know* the
>old adage about 1 dollar spent on antennas is worth 100 spent in teh
>shack), that just can't happen (for any price I can pay) given my
>location.
>
>Thanks for your opinions,
>
>de Peter K1PGV
>
>
>  
>
>
>
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>9:15 PM
>  
>

[digitalradio] New Rig!

[Andrew O'Brien]

I thought I would share the news with the group, after almost 18 
years with my trusty old Kenwood TS440S, I finally eased in to the 
current century by updating the shack with a Kenwood TS2000.

The TS440 has performed miracles in my opinion, never a problem .  It 
terms of money invested and hours of enjoyment, I think the 440 may 
have been the best thing I have ever spent money on (aside from the 
house!)  Let's seewith the 440 I have worked 243 DXCC entities 
and have had QSO's on :
SSB, FM, AM, CW, AMTOR, RTTY, PACKET, PSK31,PSK63, MT63, Throb, ALE, 
Olivia, RTTYM, Contestia, CCW, Domino, PAX, PACTOR, ASCII, Feld-Hell, 
Chip64/128, MFSK16, SSTV, Digital SSTV, FAX, and more.  

I have not found a piece of software that I could not use with the 
TS440, from PC-ALE to DX-LAB Suite, Logger32, and others the 440 
handled them all well.  PC-ALE did stretch the rig a little , so it 
was time to to think about something new.

We'll see if the new fangled rig lasts as long, and performs as well.

Andy K3UK

RE: [digitalradio] TS-20000 Low/Hi cut DSP settings for digital modes ?

[Peter G. Viscarola]

>
>myself some learning effort by stealing other people's settings.  Are
>there 2-3 standard settings you have found useful for the various
>digital DXing conditions?
>

Hey Andy,

Scanning the bands, I leave the rig in standard USB and set high and low
pretty much wide open (100hz low, 3000 or more high).  This gives me a
good view of the band.  I center any signal of interest at 1200Hz.  I
have a MixW macro to do this that reads:

 





When I want to "home in" on a signal, I use a trick courtesy of
Scott/K6IX: I put the rig in "packet filter" mode, set the bandwidth for
narrow and the shift for 170Hz.  In MixW the commands are:

;  move RX to1000 (center of filter bandwidth)
 
;  move TX to same place
 
; turn "packet filter bandwidth ON" (menu 50A)

; set low DSP filter to narrow

; set high DSP filter to 170 Hz 


This narrows the bandwidth down VERY narrow... 50Hz IIRC.  In this mode,
I'll often will open up the filter (by turning what's normally the lo
cut knob one click -- there are only two settings), this gives about
200HZ of bandwidth.

I often find the narrow setting TOO narrow, especially when trying to
copy a PSK-31 signal -- For some reason (and this doesn't make a great
deal of sense to me) the noise within the very narrow bandwidth seems to
get pulled-up to the level of the signal and it makes it harder to
decode -- the PSK31 trace actually becomes LESS distinct.  I find if I
use the wider setting (200HZ or so... ) that I can copy PSK
signals easier.  I do NOT find this to be true for RTTY, however... I
can copy an RTTY signal nicely within the 50HZ bandwidth.

I hope that gives you some starting ideas for your new rig, Andy.

de Peter K1PGV

Re: [digitalradio] Can I get a rig with MORE?

[Leigh L Klotz, Jr.]

As they used to say about Leica, get a K2 for backup so when one of your 
rigs breaks you can use the K2...
Leigh/WA5ZNU

[digitalradio] 160M 1807.5

[John Bradley]

at 0315 Z  K9NP, VE5MU, and K3GAU on 500/16 olivia 

ve5mu , John

Re: [digitalradio] Can I get a rig with MORE?

[KV9U]

I have looked at the K2 and other offerings from that company and while 
they do have some nice numbers, the rigs are extremely expensive by the 
time you get everything installed. Even connecting up digital requires 
yet another expensive option that would be standard on any other rig.

Not to mention you would build it yourself or have someone else build 
it. And they are not all that ergonomic either, with small controls and 
menus. The one thing that I most look for in a rig is the main tuning 
knob. Is it solid, well balanced, comfortable for extended use, etc.? 
The K2's tuning knob looks very poor and I have heard complaints from 
some as well.

I happen to do a lot of SWLing, just like I did in the late 50's when I 
built my first 3 tube Knight Kit:) . Spending a few hours twiddling the 
tuning for a contest or for causal tuning around causes one to value 
that feature. That is what sold me on the 756 Pro series after using one 
for Field Day a few years ago. Have used a 7800 too for FD and it is a 
nice rig, but not the kind of rig that I personally would buy.

To extend the metaphor, I would stick with Nikon or Canon (ICOM or 
Yaesu) and maybe not consider Pentax. HI HI.

If I wanted the ultimate rig for HF digital, it would almost have to be 
the Orion. I have the ICOM 756 Pro 2 and find that to be quite well 
designed. No surprises, no odd behaviors, no unfinished tweaking, 
ergonomically pretty good and it has the superb continuously operating 
spectrum scope that only ICOM has been able to do well, even much better 
than the Orion. But the receiver specs are not that great in the 756 
series with a close in IMD DR of about 75 dB @ 2 KHz,  compared with the 
unbelievable 90 + dB of the Orion which is far superior to any other rig 
including the Yaesu FT9000 series and ICOM 7800.

But do you really need this kind of superior receiver? Most of us don't. 
Other factors have to be factored in as well.

73,

Rick, KV9U


Leigh L Klotz, Jr. wrote:

>As they used to say about Leica, get a K2 for backup so when one of your 
>rigs breaks you can use the K2...
>Leigh/WA5ZNU
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Re: [digitalradio] 160M 1807.5

[KV9U]

I watched the print tonight on 160 and it was not all that good even 
though signals were 20 over 9 at times from some of the stations. One of 
the stations mentioned that the copy was rough at times. What do you 
think would have worked better?

Right now QRN has been building this evening with S5 to S-9 on peaks. I 
see that there are Tstorms just south of us a few hundred miles. 80 
meters is also noisy too with S7 to S9 QRN.

73,

Rick, KV9U



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Re: [digitalradio] 160M 1807.5

[John Bradley]

probably going to 1000/32.  Copied all stations tonight 100% but had them 
squeezed with a 500hz filter, DSP , and a combination of noise blankers
( I use a TS480SAT both CW filters) pre-amp didn't help, but backing off the rf 
gain just a little did. The only one that couldn't hear me was K3GAU, who, like 
you, was closer to the storms in the south.

would like to try this with dominoEX or PAX2

John
VE5MU


  - Original Message - 
  From: KV9U 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 10:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] 160M 1807.5


  I watched the print tonight on 160 and it was not all that good even 
  though signals were 20 over 9 at times from some of the stations. One of 
  the stations mentioned that the copy was rough at times. What do you 
  think would have worked better?

  Right now QRN has been building this evening with S5 to S-9 on peaks. I 
  see that there are Tstorms just south of us a few hundred miles. 80 
  meters is also noisy too with S7 to S9 QRN.

  73,

  Rick, KV9U

  John Bradley wrote:

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