RE: [digitalradio] Complete Bozo's Guide to ALE

2007-10-07 Thread Peter G. Viscarola

Here is a snippet from page one, the intro


Gosh... I can't wait to hear how it all ends!  Does the German tourist
enjoy his visit to Kata Tjuta National Park?  Do Bruce and Dolly become
friends with benefits, or does Dolly encounter the barbie?  Does Sheila
manage to remove the Devil's Marbles brochure from her jeep, and thus
avoid suspicion from Bruce?

These are the sorts of things that keep you up at night...

de Peter K1PGV



[digitalradio] Re: Complete Bozo's Guide to ALE

2007-10-07 Thread Demetre SV1UY
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Peter G. Viscarola [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 Here is a snippet from page one, the intro
 
 
 Gosh... I can't wait to hear how it all ends!  Does the German tourist
 enjoy his visit to Kata Tjuta National Park?  Do Bruce and Dolly 
become
 friends with benefits, or does Dolly encounter the barbie?  Does 
Sheila
 manage to remove the Devil's Marbles brochure from her jeep, and thus
 avoid suspicion from Bruce?
 
 These are the sorts of things that keep you up at night...
 
 de Peter K1PGV

Oh no Peter and I thought it was digital modes that do that! hi hi hi!!

73 de Demetre SV1UY




[digitalradio] Monitor interference

2007-10-07 Thread Bob Henning
Hi Folks,

I just found this groupa few weeks ago and have just been lurking.  I 
have a Buxcomm interface on the way to my QTH, It may be here tomorrow 
or Tuesday. My question is I am getting some noise/interference from 
my monitor (Regular CRT, not lcd flatscreen) on my radio.  The radio 
is a Yeasu FT-101Z. IS there any fiz for this interference problem ?

Also, do the new LCD flat screen monitors have the same problem ??

Thanks
Bob
KC9GMN
Clinton, Ill



[digitalradio] FW: Ham Radio

2007-10-07 Thread John Bradley
Off the digital radio topic , but an interesting reminder from our past.
VE7CK is a distant cousin and has been a Ham since the days of sail, hi hi

 

From: Arthur Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



Subject: Re: Ham Radio

 



Ham. Amateur radio operators are often referred to as hams -- a term with
an complicated history. At the start of the 1900s, ham was sometimes used
to refer to someone as unskilled -- Ham actor being the most common
example. Wire-line telegraphy employees at this time had a rich vocabulary
of insults for describing less-than-capable operators, and in The Slang of
the Wire http://earlyradiohistory.us/1902slng.htm  section of Telegraph
Talk and Talkers, from the January, 1902 issue of McClure's Magazine,
author L. C. Hall noted It is an every-day thing to hear senders
characterized as Miss Nancys, rattle-brains, swell-heads, or cranks, or
'jays,' simply because the sound of their dots and dashes suggests the
epithets. Hall's review further noted that senders of hog-Morse, called
technically 'hams'  were known for their propensity for transmitting
garbled Morse code. So it was natural, in light of wire-telegraph practice,
for commercial stations to dismiss amateur radio operators as hams--and in
Floods http://earlyradiohistory.us/1915ama.htm  and Wireless by Hanby
Carver from the August, 1915 Technical World Magazine the author noted Then
someone thought of the 'hams'. This is the name that the commercial wireless
service has given to amateur operators... 

But, interestingly, ham would eventually lose its negative meaning and
become a general nickname for all amateurs. This evolution was spotty and
not very well documented. As early as the May, 1909 Wireless Registry
http://earlyradiohistory.us/1909wr2.htm  list in Modern Electrics, Earl C.
Hawkins of Minneapolis, Minnesota was listed with the callsign of H.A.M.
This callsign was likely assigned by the magazine -- this was before the
U.S. government began licencing stations and issuing callsigns -- but was
this an inside joke or just a coincidence? In two articles by Robert A.
Morton, Wireless Interference http://earlyradiohistory.us/1909ama.htm , in
the April, 1909 Electrician and Mechanic, and The Amateur Wireless Operator
http://earlyradiohistory.us/1910ama.htm , in the January 15, 1910 The
Outlook, the author included an overheard transmission between amateur
stations asking Say, do you know the fellow who is putting up a new station
out your way? I think he is a ham. However, ham took a while to
completely lose its negative connotations. A letter from Western Union
employee W. L. Matteson in the December, 1919 issue of QST, Why is an
Amateur? http://earlyradiohistory.us/1919why.htm , complained that
amateurs, now regulated by the government, were not getting the respect they
deserved, noting that Many unknowing land wire telegraphers, hearing the
word 'amateur' applied to men connected with wireless, regard him as a 'ham'
or 'lid'. But in the next month's issue, Thomas Hunter's exuberant pome,
I http://earlyradiohistory.us/1920pome.htm  am the Wandering Ham, showed
that other amateurs had already embraced ham as a friendly description for
their fellow hobbyists. 


and this from another site :

Why an Amateur Radio Operator is called a HAM
By Gerry Crenshaw (WD4BIS)

(This was previously published in the Amateur Radio Communicator MARCH/APRIL
1994)

Have you ever wondered why we radio amateurs are called HAMS? Well,
according to the Northern Ohio Radio Society, it goes like this: the word
ham was applied in 1908 and was the call letters of one of the first Amateur
wireless stations operated by some members of the HARVARD RADIO CLUB. There
were Albert S. Hyman, Bob Almy and Peggie Murray. At first, they called
their station Hyman-Almy-Murry. Tapping out such a long name in code soon
called for a revision and they changed it to HY-AL-MU, using the first two
letters of each name.

Early in 1909, some confusion resulted between signals from Amateur wireless
HYALMU and a Mexican ship named HYALMO, so they decided to use only the
first letter of each name and the call became HAM.

In the early pioneer unregulated days of radio, Amateur operators picked
their own frequency and call letters. Then, as now, some Amateurs had better
signals than some commercial stations. The resulting interference finally
came to the attention of congressional committees in Washington and they
gave much time to proposed legislation designed to critically limit Amateur
activity.

In 1911, Albert Hyman chose the controversial Wireless Regulation Bill as
the topic for his thesis at Harvard. His instructor insisted that a copy be
sent to Senator David I. Walsh, a member of one of the committees hearing
the bill. The Senator was so impressed, he sent for Hyman to appear before
the committee. He was put on the stand and described how the little Amateur
station was built. He almost cried when he told 

Re: [digitalradio] Monitor interference

2007-10-07 Thread Jerry W
Bob,

A few things to try for monitor interference. Change refresh rate(s),
move the monitor around  on the desk to see if that helps.

Jerry - K0HZI


On 10/7/07, Bob Henning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Folks,

 I just found this groupa few weeks ago and have just been lurking.  I
 have a Buxcomm interface on the way to my QTH, It may be here tomorrow
 or Tuesday. My question is I am getting some noise/interference from
 my monitor (Regular CRT, not lcd flatscreen) on my radio.  The radio
 is a Yeasu FT-101Z. IS there any fiz for this interference problem ?

 Also, do the new LCD flat screen monitors have the same problem ??

 Thanks
 Bob
 KC9GMN
 Clinton, Ill


Re: [digitalradio] Monitor interference

2007-10-07 Thread Dave 'Doc' Corio
   Depending on the monitor, you may be able to change the sync 
frequency in it. This may move the interference but will probably not 
eliminate it. Changing my sync frequency in my old CRT moved the 
interference to parts of the bands that I don't use. The monitor manual 
should tell you what frequencies you can use. If you can use several 
different ones, increase the frequency one step at a time. You may get 
flicker at some of the frequencies, so it might take a little 
experimentation.


   I recently got an Acer AL2016W LCD flat screen, and have absolutely 
no interference from it within the ham bands that I use, although I 
understand such interference is possible from them.


GL es 73
Dave KB3MOW


Bob Henning wrote:


Hi Folks,

I just found this groupa few weeks ago and have just been lurking. I
have a Buxcomm interface on the way to my QTH, It may be here tomorrow
or Tuesday. My question is I am getting some noise/interference from
my monitor (Regular CRT, not lcd flatscreen) on my radio. The radio
is a Yeasu FT-101Z. IS there any fiz for this interference problem ?

Also, do the new LCD flat screen monitors have the same problem ??

Thanks
Bob
KC9GMN
Clinton, Ill




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[digitalradio] Introducing Digiital Radio Century Club numbers

2007-10-07 Thread Andrew O'Brien
It took a while, but I have mined the information associated with the
2900 plus members of the Digitalradio mail list and created membership
numbers from those that were obvious amateur radio call signs.  Of the
 2900+, I managed to find 1415 call signs.  Just about 50%

You can find the membership list , by call sign and number, at
http://www.obriensweb.com/drccalpha.xhtml

I will also upload the list sorted alphabetically and by number to the
files sections of this mail list

To find your call sign , you can use the FIND command in your browser,
I will put up a more sophisticated database that you can search when I
figure out how (advice/ideas  accepted).

If you are not listed, it is because I could not find your call sign
in the Yahoo groups roster.  Just email me and I will add you.  New
members,  henceforth, will automatically be assigned a number when
they join.  

I assigned LOW numbers to some of the well known digital hams and to
some of the people that have posted here recently.  I have reserved 70
or so other low numbers for people that I may have missed or those
with a high number who want to advocate for a lower one.  Low numbers
will have special multiplier significance in future digital mode contests.

So what do you do with the numbers?

The numbers will have two purposes: 
1. They will be used for future digital mode contests (as part of the
exchange) and 

2. will be used in casual QSOs where both parties (if members of
Digitalradio) will exchange their DRCC Number (Digital Radio Century
Club number). I stole the idea from the Straight Key Century Club , a
CW club that I belong to .

There will be several awards announced in the  next few weeks but the
first ones will be

DRCC  .  Have a digital QSO and collect 100 DRCC numbers (PSK,
MFSK16/8, ALE 8FSK, Olivia, PACTOR, PACKET, DominoEx, Hell, MT63, PAX, 
RTTY, SSTV, Throb, etc , etc) Upon receiving the DRCC award, a special
letter will be affixed to your membership number.  Your membership
number will then worth more points in a digital modes contest.


DRCC Multimode :  Exchange 100 individual DRCC numbers in FIVE
different digital modes (100 in each mode). Upon receiving the DRCC
Multimode award, a special letter will be affixed to your membership
number.  Your membership number will then worth even more points in a
digital modes contest.

Certificates will be emailed to each successful applicant upon
submission of a log detailing each QSO
(date/time/band/mode/callsigns/RST and both DRCC numbers exchanged)
The QSOs must have taken place SINCE September 30 , 2007.   

A web based submission process will eventually be developed.

Email me for more details.

Andy K3UK
Owner.
 





[digitalradio] Overcrowded on 14109.5

2007-10-07 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Hi all,

I would like to quot John VE5MU  (ALE yes ... or no?
digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sun, 23 Sep 2007 11:33:05 -0600) :

On the subject of ALE;  in my humble opinion some operators have become
too focused on ALE, forgetting that ALE is the means to establish which
stations available, and the best frequency to communicate from A to B.
Once these are established, then other modes can be used to effect the
actual communications.

I don't want to be a policeman , I think it is to many of them already, 
but I have a wish. 14109.5 seems to be a bit overcrowded when
everyone  are sounding and trying to make a AMD qso. What about QSYing
to another frequency when a contact is establish on 14109.5? 14112.0  is
a great frequency. It is perfect for playing with Patrick's wonderful
ARQ FAE mode.

Don't flame me now . This is meant to be a constructive proposal.

73 de LA5VNA Steinar







[digitalradio] Multipsk ALE actiivity this week + Complete Bozo's Guide to ALE (?)

2007-10-07 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello to all,

Thanks to Bonnie, there are two interesting pictures which show a typical 
configuration of the 141A mode (ALE). The pictures don't correspond exactly to 
the last version (4.4.2) but it's 98 % OK. 

The first step is to leave the soft in monitoring on 14109.5 KHz (on the XCVR) 
USB and see the ALE frames (up the band closes). There is now some activity and 
some interest in Europ for this system of modes which is new.

73
Patrick


- Original Message - 
From: expeditionradio 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 5:41 AM
Subject: [multipsk] Multipsk ALE actiivity this week


I would like to encourage all Multipsk users to try ALE 141 this week.
There is a lot of activity now, and this is a really good chance to
get to know more about how ALE works in Multipsk, and link up with
lots of other hams on the air. 

Here are 2 diagrams that may be helpful for using Multipsk with ALE:
http://www.hflink.com/multipsk/MultipskALEoptionsSetup.jpg
http://www.hflink.com/multipsk/MPSK_OPTIONS_USA.jpg

73 Bonnie VR2/KQ6XA
-

ALE On The Air Week: 05-15 October

AOTAW (ALE On The Air Week) is an annual International Amateur Radio event
sponsored by HFLINK, a resource for ALE, HF Interoperative
Communications, and
HF Emcomm. Ham radio operators worldwide are invited to participate in
a 10 day
readiness event of ALE HF activity on the air. AOTAW-2007 is an
excellent chance
to explore ALE communications.

Start: 0001 UTC Friday 05 October
End: 2359 UTC Monday 15 October

Thousands of amateur radio operators worldwide have ALE capability
now, using HF
ham transceivers and computers running PCALE software, Multipsk
software, or
commercial ALE HF transceivers adapted to ham radio ALE use. The
experience
gained by operator participation is also useful for HF Emergency /
Disaster
Relief Communications.

What Is ALE? Automatic Link Establishment. In the hands of a skilled
HF ham
operator, ALE is a force multiplier. With the capability to call up a
specific
HF station, a group of stations, a net, or a networked station, ALE is a
versatile digital calling system for initiating and maintaining QSOs
with SSB
voice, data, text, instant messaging, internet messaging, or image
communications.

Each ALE station uses the operator's callsign as the digital address
in the ALE
controller. When not actively in communication with another station, the
transceiver constantly scans through a list of frequencies in multiple
HF or VHF
bands, listening for its callsign. To reach a specific station, the
operator
simply enters the callsign just like dialing a phone number, and
transmits a
short digital signal burst. When the distant scanning station detects
the first
few characters of its callsign, it stops scanning and stays on that
frequency.
The receiving station, which was muted up until now, typically emits
an audible
alarm and visual alert for the receiving operator of the incoming
call. It also
indicates the callsign of the linked station. The two stations' ALE
controllers
automatically handshake to confirm that a link is established and they
are ready
to communicate in any mode, such as SSB voice, text or image. All of this
happens quite fast, usually within a few minutes.

A unique ALE Operator Certificate is available to operators who
participate in
AOTAW. To qualify for the certificate, the operator simply completes
at least 5
QSOs through Automatic Link Establishment communications on HF or VHF. The
initial ALE linking QSO can use SSB Voice or AMD Text Message (the
standard
text messaging format in all ALE systems). See AOTAW Guidelines and
Details.
http://hflink.com/aotaw

Additional certificate endorsements are issued to operators who link
with 25
stations or more, or send 2 ALE-SMS text messages through High
Frequency Network
Pilot Stations.

ALE High Frequency Network (HFN)
The HFN Pilot Stations are equipped with scanning ALE transceivers,
multiband
antenna systems, and special software control systems for internet
connectivity.
Ham radio ALE users in the field on HF connect with the HFN Pilot
Stations to
exchange digital ALE-SMS text messaging to and from internet devices
such as
cell mobile phones, black berry type devices, PDAs, PCs and laptops.
The free
service includes:
HF-to-Cellphone message
HF-to-email message
HF-to-HF message

All HFN stations automatically exchange signal reports with each other
every
hour on every HF band, and all this ALE HF activity with signal
reports and
messages is displayed in real time on the web at ALE CHANNEL ZERO:
http://hflink.net/qso

Organized ALE ham activity began about 6 years ago, when a group of
operators
started working together to experiment with various methods of HF
selective
calling on HF. The need to call up emergency nets or inter-operability and
liaison with government HF systems led many hams to adopt the
government ALE
standard, called FED-STD-1045 or MIL-STD 188-141. This standard caught
on slowly
in the ham community, initiated by a few 

Re: [digitalradio] Overcrowded on 14109.5

2007-10-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Steinar Aanesland wrote:
 I don't want to be a policeman , I think it is to many of them already, 
 but I have a wish. 14109.5 seems to be a bit overcrowded when
 everyone  are sounding and trying to make a AMD qso. What about QSYing
 to another frequency when a contact is establish on 14109.5? 14112.0  is
 a great frequency. It is perfect for playing with Patrick's wonderful
 ARQ FAE mode.
I will admit that I have looked at, but steered clear of ALE for a 
number of reasons, which are all personal and maybe based upon my 
incomplete understanding of what ALE is designed to do.

1st off, ALE seems like a sort of digital net system, where stations 
sign in and out and there is some system to see what frequency might or 
might not be better to contact each other on.  Again, please bear with 
my incomplete or partial knowledge, this is all based upon reading other 
emails on the subject...

2nd, it seems like the sort of mode that standing groups would find very 
useful.  I was a member of RAYNET (the UK Amateur Emergency Network) way 
back in the 1980s and 90s and they used early Packet radio systems (like 
Cambridge Packet) before AX.25 became the standard Amateur system.  The 
problem that I could see is that, if too many stations joined in then 
the channels become overloaded and the advantage of being able to 
validate contact with certain stations becomes lost.

The next issue is defining a 'contact'.  Many Amateur awards and 
certificates are based upon two way peer-to-peer contacts.  Nets are, of 
course, valid as long as the two stations are in direct contact.  
However, in my own logs I differenciate between direct QSOs and AX.25 
contacts, either direct or via digipeaters of some sort, as I cannot 
always remember what was direct and what was via an intermediary such as 
a digipeater, IGATE or some other 3rd party system, as it's not always 
obvious unless you are very careful to log where each contact went and 
came via at the time.

Now, ALE may, or may not suffer from these issue at the moment, but 
automatic systems which allow one station to be relayed from one 
frequency to another are not uncommon these days and I could see the 
advantages, to a network of stations, of having automatic gateways from 
one band to another.  These exist in APRS now.  So, ALE is one of those 
things that I've not become involved in whilst I try to build up more 
peer-to-peer digital contacts.

Dave (G0DJA)


Re: [digitalradio] Overcrowded on 14109.5

2007-10-07 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
And some still wonder  *why*  the MT63 guys packed up and moved...

Reminds me a lot of the psk'ers parking right in the center of all the 
pactor stations. Yes I know that no one owns a frequency so you
can save the hate reply's.

- just an option -  before a get in trouble again.






















Re: [digitalradio] Introducing Digiital Radio Century Club numbers

2007-10-07 Thread Andrew O'Brien
The spreadsheet can also be viewed at


http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pWRKA1oXIEhhGHeWIEjihCQhl=en_US




A Excel spreadsheet has also been uploaded to the files section.


On 10/7/07, Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   It took a while, but I have mined the information associated with the
 2900 plus members of the Digitalradio mail list and created membership
 numbers from those that were obvious amateur radio call signs. Of the
 2900+, I managed to find 1415 call signs. Just about 50%

 You can find the membership list , by call sign and number, at
 http://www.obriensweb.com/drccalpha.xhtml

 I will also upload the list sorted alphabetically and by number to the
 files sections of this mail list

 To find your call sign , you can use the FIND command in your browser,
 I will put up a more sophisticated database that you can search when I
 figure out how (advice/ideas accepted).

 If you are not listed, it is because I could not find your call sign
 in the Yahoo groups roster. Just email me and I will add you. New
 members, henceforth, will automatically be assigned a number when
 they join.

 I assigned LOW numbers to some of the well known digital hams and to
 some of the people that have posted here recently. I have reserved 70
 or so other low numbers for people that I may have missed or those
 with a high number who want to advocate for a lower one. Low numbers
 will have special multiplier significance in future digital mode contests.

 So what do you do with the numbers?

 The numbers will have two purposes:
 1. They will be used for future digital mode contests (as part of the
 exchange) and

 2. will be used in casual QSOs where both parties (if members of
 Digitalradio) will exchange their DRCC Number (Digital Radio Century
 Club number). I stole the idea from the Straight Key Century Club , a
 CW club that I belong to .

 There will be several awards announced in the next few weeks but the
 first ones will be

 DRCC . Have a digital QSO and collect 100 DRCC numbers (PSK,
 MFSK16/8, ALE 8FSK, Olivia, PACTOR, PACKET, DominoEx, Hell, MT63, PAX,
 RTTY, SSTV, Throb, etc , etc) Upon receiving the DRCC award, a special
 letter will be affixed to your membership number. Your membership
 number will then worth more points in a digital modes contest.

 DRCC Multimode : Exchange 100 individual DRCC numbers in FIVE
 different digital modes (100 in each mode). Upon receiving the DRCC
 Multimode award, a special letter will be affixed to your membership
 number. Your membership number will then worth even more points in a
 digital modes contest.

 Certificates will be emailed to each successful applicant upon
 submission of a log detailing each QSO
 (date/time/band/mode/callsigns/RST and both DRCC numbers exchanged)
 The QSOs must have taken place SINCE September 30 , 2007.

 A web based submission process will eventually be developed.

 Email me for more details.

 Andy K3UK
 Owner.


  




-- 
Andy K3UK
www.obriensweb.com
(QSL via N2RJ)


Re: [digitalradio] Overcrowded on 14109.5

2007-10-07 Thread F.R. Ashley

- Original Message - 
From: John Becker, WØJAB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Overcrowded on 14109.5


 And some still wonder  *why*  the MT63 guys packed up and moved...

 Reminds me a lot of the psk'ers parking right in the center of all the
 pactor stations. Yes I know that no one owns a frequency so you
 can save the hate reply's.

 - just an option -  before a get in trouble again.

So just where is MT-63 these days?   14.109.50 was originally the MT-63 
calling frequency.  So ALE took over?

73 Buddy WB4M

 


Re: [digitalradio] Overcrowded on 14109.5

2007-10-07 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Please please my HAM friends, don't destroy this thread with a new who
owns a frequency fight.
It's a never ending story, and you all know that.

73 de LA5VNA Steinar



[digitalradio] Consensus on power/audio setting

2007-10-07 Thread Paul
Long ago, when I started with PSK31, the word was - use low power.
Dial the rig down (approximately 20-35) watts,adjust mic gain for ALC
flicker, then back mic gain off a smidge.

But I've been out of digital mode for a year or more and my recent
searches come up with, ...keep the rig at high power (75 - 85 watts)
and adjust the mic gain till power meter reads 25-35 watts? It
couldn't be till ALC flickers because that's a standard SSB signal at
80 watts at 100% duty cycle and I don't think that was the goal.

There was something about keeping the power level high for linearity.
Would I use some digital software like the old WinPSK that has a tune
button. Push the tune button and adjust mic gain till forward power
meter reads the 30 or so watts?

What is today's Best Practices.

Thank you and 73,
Paul



[digitalradio] Italian DM780 guide

2007-10-07 Thread Andrew O'Brien
http://forums.ham-radio.ch/attachment.php?attachmentid=1228d=1191792232

-- 
Andy K3UK
www.obriensweb.com
(QSL via N2RJ)


Re: [digitalradio] Consensus on power/audio setting

2007-10-07 Thread lew
Paul:

I run mainly PSK, I have my TS-2000 set for 25watts, and the ALC so it justs 
moves. I avg IDM report is around -30
Lew  N4HRA
- Original Message - 
From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 4:57 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] Consensus on power/audio setting


 Long ago, when I started with PSK31, the word was - use low power.
 Dial the rig down (approximately 20-35) watts,adjust mic gain for ALC
 flicker, then back mic gain off a smidge.

 But I've been out of digital mode for a year or more and my recent
 searches come up with, ...keep the rig at high power (75 - 85 watts)
 and adjust the mic gain till power meter reads 25-35 watts? It
 couldn't be till ALC flickers because that's a standard SSB signal at
 80 watts at 100% duty cycle and I don't think that was the goal.

 There was something about keeping the power level high for linearity.
 Would I use some digital software like the old WinPSK that has a tune
 button. Push the tune button and adjust mic gain till forward power
 meter reads the 30 or so watts?

 What is today's Best Practices.

 Thank you and 73,
 Paul



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[digitalradio] peer-to-peer ALE

2007-10-07 Thread expeditionradio
 Dave (G0DJA) 
  So, ALE is one of those 
 things that I've not become involved in whilst I try to build up more 
 peer-to-peer digital contacts.
 


Hi Dave,

90% of all ALE contacts are peer-to-peer. You can use any mode once
you link up, or you can use the built-in text mode called AMD. There
are several other ARQ texting and file transfer modes associated with it.

Most operators use ALE to initiate or maintain communications with
another specific station, or a group, or a net. 

It also can be used to send/receive e-messages via internet or SMS
phone system, if you connect with one of the 9 HFN Pilot Stations. 

The HFN Pilot Stations also can relay a text message HF-to-HF between
two stations, but this feature is not normally used very much. Perhaps
during an emergency it will be.

73 Bonnie VR2/KQ6XA



[digitalradio] Re: Consensus on power/audio setting

2007-10-07 Thread jgorman01
You are dealing with two issues here, continuous power output and
distortion caused by ALC.  

PSK31 is basically like turning your transmitter on continuously.  If
your rig is rated for continuous full output then you should have no
problem.  Please recognize that most amateur rigs are rated for
intermittent service not for continuous service.  Also, maximum output
may not result in the cleanest signal.  The best level can vary from
rig to rig and should be measured, however, in most cases, running
less power results in cleaner signals.

The other issue is caused by ALC.  Remember, ALC is used to limit the
drive levels of amplifiers in the transmitter chain to prevent
overdriving and the consequent intermodulation distortion (IMD) that
results.  With SSB you can use ALC to achieve some compression without
raising distortion to objectionable levels.  But, even with SSB, if
you really bang the ALC hard you will get increased splatter, or IMD.

With PSK31, if you see any ALC, you can be sure you are overdriving
amplifier stages in the transmitter chain including the final
amplifier.  This causes IMD and a very wide signal.

Jim
WA0LYK

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, lew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Paul:
 
 I run mainly PSK, I have my TS-2000 set for 25watts, and the ALC so
it justs 
 moves. I avg IDM report is around -30
 Lew  N4HRA
 - Original Message - 
 From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 4:57 PM
 Subject: [digitalradio] Consensus on power/audio setting
 
 
  Long ago, when I started with PSK31, the word was - use low power.
  Dial the rig down (approximately 20-35) watts,adjust mic gain for ALC
  flicker, then back mic gain off a smidge.
 
  But I've been out of digital mode for a year or more and my recent
  searches come up with, ...keep the rig at high power (75 - 85 watts)
  and adjust the mic gain till power meter reads 25-35 watts? It
  couldn't be till ALC flickers because that's a standard SSB signal at
  80 watts at 100% duty cycle and I don't think that was the goal.
 
  There was something about keeping the power level high for linearity.
  Would I use some digital software like the old WinPSK that has a tune
  button. Push the tune button and adjust mic gain till forward power
  meter reads the 30 or so watts?
 
  What is today's Best Practices.
 
  Thank you and 73,
  Paul
 
 
 
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