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Re: [digitalradio] Re: CSS releases EmComm Ops Radio Software for Packet Radio
I won't repeat it here, but I did provide a comment after the press release on this product on eham. This product is probably at least 10 years too late. We have free products that will greatly outperform packet modes with much lower signal to noise using a sound card and a simple low cost interface so I do not see how it could possibly compete well with the more advanced modes. 73, Rick, KV9U Andrew O'Brien wrote: > - > > Is my brain dead? I may be missing the point of this product, I read > the manual and it says "PSK31 is a new mode" and it references 20 year > old concepts . Seems like a step backwards to me. > > Andy > >
RE: [digitalradio] Re: CSS releases EmComm Ops Radio Software for Packet Radio
Time warp? 73, Dave, AA6YQ -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew O'Brien Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:05 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: CSS releases EmComm Ops Radio Software for Packet Radio - Is my brain dead? I may be missing the point of this product, I read the manual and it says "PSK31 is a new mode" and it references 20 year old concepts . Seems like a step backwards to me. Andy
Re: [digitalradio] ASCII ?
--- On Wed, 10/1/08, "John Becker, WØJAB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "John Becker, WØJAB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ASCII ? > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 9:56 PM > Rick > I agree about your ASCII comment but as far as RTTY goes, > just > about anyone can copy it with machine (as I still do) or by > computer. > Did you ever notice that the ARRL bulletins still to this > day put a > CR/LF at the end of a 70 letter line. Still a lot of > machines out > there still working after all these years. > > Gee it would be so nice if the software writers would do > the same. > > John, W0JAB > > Yes, it would be nice if they did. About 20 years ago I wrote a simple rtty program for an 8080 processor. I programmed it to send a cr/cr/lf after 60 characters and then the next space between words. If the word hapened to be longer than 12 or so characters, then it would do a forced cr/cr/lf at 72 characters. I could also defeat this if I wanted to for the pix mode. I am not a programmer and if I can do this, I am sure others could do it.
[digitalradio] Re: ASCII ?
I guess some people thought it was a Big Deal, but there were lots of reasons why it didn't go anywhere. I'd say the overriding one is that with 60 wpm Baudot RTTY the bit length is 22 milliseconds. With 100 wpm ASCII 110 baud the bit length is 9 milliseconds. That means 2.4 times the bandwidth, and correspondingly more noise sensitivity. Maybe for VHF local work it wouldn't matter; but for HF that's a big penalty. And we were already running 500 watts or so to get good copy on RTTY. Other reasons include the plentiful supply of old Baudot Teletype machines, versus having to buy a new one for ASCII, until CRT terminals came along. And so many guys can't even type 60 wpm that the ability to operate at 100 wpm wasn't interesting. And for rag chewing, contests, and DX, the upper case only Baudot character set is entirely sufficient. Of course the earlier ASCII Teletypes were also upper case only. And the lower cost ASCII Teletype, Model 33, had terrible keyboard touch compared with the older Baudot machines. ASCII was advantageous only for applications involving connection to computers, or for applications requiring upper and lower case characters. Teletype's original up/low machines, Model 37 and Model 38, were failures; so it was the CRT terminal business that really made ASCII practical. Jim W6JVE
[digitalradio] Regional contest club looking for members (PA, Maryland, DC, WNY , OH, WV and Ontario.)
The Allegheny Valley Radio Association is a cyber radio club with an emphasis on contesting. If you live within a 175 mile radius of Gobbler's Knob, PA, you are eligible to join (it is free!) Check the map of the 175 mile radius at http://www.obriensweb.com/avramap.jpg The area covers most of PA, ad some parts of Maryland, DC, Western NY , Ohio, West Virginia and Ontario. For more details go to http://w3wpa.org/ Looking for a few new members with digital mode contesting interests. Particularly the upcoming Rumble. -- Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Rumble Team Rules...Please Read Immediately!
Hello Andy, K3UK: We appreciate you getting a team going on your end. Let us know if we can be of any service to you or your team 73 de Bill NY2U In a message dated 10/1/2008 10:09:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am drumming up a team for my local contest club. Andy k3UK **Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall0001)
[digitalradio] Re: Rumble Team Rules...Please Read Immediately!
I am drumming up a team for my local contest club. Andy k3UK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Howdy Folks: > > I've been reading some great news on guys/gals getting together and forming > some teams for the upcoming TARA PSK "Rumble" this coming weekend and that is > so awesome! I thought I had better post this information so you all know > there is some time limitations with your announcement of taking the TEAM > CHALLENGE. > > "Each team must declare its name or ID and each of its members names and > callsigns, at least 24 hours before contest kickoff. You can add and drop > members from the Team up until this dead line. Then the Teams will be frozen. > These declarations will be posted on the Results web page along with the teams > other declarations. > > The team Gaffer can throw a challenge to another team indicating that they > will whip em! Royally in the contest. If accepted by the other team, this > challenge will be posted in the team's declaration on the Results web page. The > winning team will add 100 points to its total and the loosing team subtracts > 100 points. A maximum of 5 teams can be challenged by a single team for a > total of +/- 500 whip em! points on the final score. Once the challenge is > declared, if the challenged team declines, that challenge cannot be used again so > think carefully before challenging :)" > > You can use this "NEW" easy to use link to DECLARE your team to the World! > Meaning..."you are ready to RUMBLE!!" > _http://www.n2ty.org/seasons/tara_rumble_challenge.html_ (http://www.n2ty.org/seasons/tara_rumble_challenge.html) > > > > **Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and > calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall0001) >
[digitalradio] Re: CSS releases EmComm Ops Radio Software for Packet Radio
- Is my brain dead? I may be missing the point of this product, I read the manual and it says "PSK31 is a new mode" and it references 20 year old concepts . Seems like a step backwards to me. Andy
Re: [digitalradio] CSS releases EmComm Ops Radio Software for Packet Radio
There are those of us who do not wish to be bombarded by Fred's muck & mire, especially in the body of an e-mail. Beyond that, you know as do all of us that posting a copy of a thread from another forum is a huge no-no due to copyright infringement. --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Mark Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Mark Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [digitalradio] CSS releases EmComm Ops Radio Software for Packet Radio To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 6:09 PM W4PC QRZ Member CSS releases EmComm Ops! EmComm Ops Radio Software Now Available Creative Services Software Releases New Addition to Its Radio Operations Center Software Suite for Packet Radio FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Muscle Shoals, AL, September 30, 2008 —Creative Services Software, Inc. (CSS) today announced the availability of EmComm Ops™, a new software solution for packet radio operations. Designed primarily for emergency radio communications, EmComm Ops helps amateur (Ham), commercial and MARS radio operators connect to, access, integrate and operate packet radio stations with a Windows PC or laptop from a fixed station or in the field. EmComm Ops is the first addition to CSS’ recently-rebranded Radio Operations Center™ (ROC) product line. The just-released version of EmComm Ops supports Kantronics and Timewave/AEA TNCs. A version for MFJ TNCs is now in beta testing and is available for pre-order or trial download. The pending release of EmComm Ops for MFJ hardware is in response to the recent re-introduction of TNC solutions by MFJ Enterprises. At an introductory price of $29.95, EmComm Ops offers radio operators an efficient and affordable entry into advanced software-enhanced packet and radio control. For operators who require support beyond packet radio, CSS’ ROC Digital Desktop™ ($99.95) offers a step up that supports the classic HF digital modes, as well as support for soundcard-based radio modes including PSK-31 and MT-63. EmComm Ops allows users to control radios, TNCs, rotors, and to access logging applications, call books and more — all from within a single Microsoft Windows application. Unlike MS-DOS or Windows 3.1-based radio software, EmComm Ops is a 32-bit Windows application designed from the ground up for Windows 2000, XP and Vista, offering users true multitasking, seamless integration of other radio or PC productivity tools, and the ability to take full advantage of the speed and processing power of the latest Windows-based computers. Operators can control radio transmissions while simultaneously running logging programs, call book programs or any Windows application (including Microsoft Office). “True multitasking means that EmComm operators can send and receive packet communications while simultaneously relaying messages to families and rescue personnel in e-mail,” said Rick Ruhl, W4PC, CSS president and chief architect of the company’s software suite. “And in emergency situations where communications infrastructure has been compromised or conditions limit reliable radio operation, messages can be noted in a text or Microsoft Word file, then imported into EmComm Ops to be re-transmitted at a later time when conditions improve. Operators can also export messages to a file to document communications. Of course, simple Windows cut-and-paste is also supported.” EmComm Ops supports emergency operations by accelerating, streamlining and automating packet radio. Features include: • One-click access to any data stream, packet mode, radio, TNC and rotor for quicker response in an emergency. • Support for multiple packet radio data streams, connection types and transmit/receive/ listen modes. Up to 25 packet conversations and links can be managed when used with a Kantronics TNC, and up to nine with Timewave/AEA TNCs. • Built-in and customizable macros that automate common commands. • Support for dual TNCs, allowing radio amateurs to work in multiple packet modes simultaneously. • Multiple monitor windows, including separate windows for network traffic. • Robust support for packet mailboxes, including point-and-click settings for multiple TNC start-up/shut- down commands. Operators can manage Packet bulletin board systems from the TNC, even when the software and computer are shut down. • Robust file transfer capabilities in ASCII (text) or binary (data) formats, with an unlimited buffer for ASCII file transfers. • A built-in mini logging program built on a Microsoft Access database, plus interoperability with Log Window and DX4Win software. • Multiple call-book integration. • Compatibility with over 70 radios from leading manufacturers including ICOM, Kenwood, Tentec, Yeasu and Alinco. • Includes an advanced TN
Re: [digitalradio] ASCII ?
Rick I agree about your ASCII comment but as far as RTTY goes, just about anyone can copy it with machine (as I still do) or by computer. Did you ever notice that the ARRL bulletins still to this day put a CR/LF at the end of a 70 letter line. Still a lot of machines out there still working after all these years. Gee it would be so nice if the software writers would do the same. John, W0JAB At 08:35 PM 10/1/2008, Rick, KV9U wrote in part: >They don't seem to want to even hear any suggestions to modernize and >move to some modes that will actually work exceedingly well compared to >the current modes. They should be moving to new modes as they become >available and drop the less effective ones. Quite frankly, it makes the >ARRL leadership appear to be out of touch with technology and what hams >are actually doing. > >73, > >Rick, KV9U
Re: [digitalradio] ASCII ?
Hi John, I was just getting relicensed about the time that ASCII was approved for ham radio as a major breakthrough for advanced technology. I asked one of my long time digital friends to explain what this meant. He said that after a very short time, it was quickly realized that 110 baud ASCII was a very poor HF mode compared with the existing 45 baud 5 level RTTY code. The ARRL felt compellled to transmit bulletins using ASCII and still do as you well note. They don't seem to want to even hear any suggestions to modernize and move to some modes that will actually work exceedingly well compared to the current modes. They should be moving to new modes as they become available and drop the less effective ones. Quite frankly, it makes the ARRL leadership appear to be out of touch with technology and what hams are actually doing. 73, Rick, KV9U John Becker wrote: > I recall that when the FCC first authorized the use of ASCII code for > RTTY in addition to Baudot in 1980, the ham radio press made it appear > that this was a really big deal. > > I've Googled information on ASCII RTTY, and find no indication that is > being used to any significant extent. ARRL states that their teleprinter > bulletins are transmitted in Baudot, AMTOR, and *in ASCII only as time > allows*. Why did ASCII fail to catch on? Just curious! > > 73, > > John, K9MM >
[digitalradio] CSS releases EmComm Ops Radio Software for Packet Radio
W4PC QRZ Member CSS releases EmComm Ops! EmComm Ops Radio Software Now Available Creative Services Software Releases New Addition to Its Radio Operations Center Software Suite for Packet Radio FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Muscle Shoals, AL, September 30, 2008 —Creative Services Software, Inc. (CSS) today announced the availability of EmComm Ops™, a new software solution for packet radio operations. Designed primarily for emergency radio communications, EmComm Ops helps amateur (Ham), commercial and MARS radio operators connect to, access, integrate and operate packet radio stations with a Windows PC or laptop from a fixed station or in the field. EmComm Ops is the first addition to CSS’ recently-rebranded Radio Operations Center™ (ROC) product line. The just-released version of EmComm Ops supports Kantronics and Timewave/AEA TNCs. A version for MFJ TNCs is now in beta testing and is available for pre-order or trial download. The pending release of EmComm Ops for MFJ hardware is in response to the recent re-introduction of TNC solutions by MFJ Enterprises. At an introductory price of $29.95, EmComm Ops offers radio operators an efficient and affordable entry into advanced software-enhanced packet and radio control. For operators who require support beyond packet radio, CSS’ ROC Digital Desktop™ ($99.95) offers a step up that supports the classic HF digital modes, as well as support for soundcard-based radio modes including PSK-31 and MT-63. EmComm Ops allows users to control radios, TNCs, rotors, and to access logging applications, call books and more — all from within a single Microsoft Windows application. Unlike MS-DOS or Windows 3.1-based radio software, EmComm Ops is a 32-bit Windows application designed from the ground up for Windows 2000, XP and Vista, offering users true multitasking, seamless integration of other radio or PC productivity tools, and the ability to take full advantage of the speed and processing power of the latest Windows-based computers. Operators can control radio transmissions while simultaneously running logging programs, call book programs or any Windows application (including Microsoft Office). “True multitasking means that EmComm operators can send and receive packet communications while simultaneously relaying messages to families and rescue personnel in e-mail,” said Rick Ruhl, W4PC, CSS president and chief architect of the company’s software suite. “And in emergency situations where communications infrastructure has been compromised or conditions limit reliable radio operation, messages can be noted in a text or Microsoft Word file, then imported into EmComm Ops to be re-transmitted at a later time when conditions improve. Operators can also export messages to a file to document communications. Of course, simple Windows cut-and-paste is also supported.” EmComm Ops supports emergency operations by accelerating, streamlining and automating packet radio. Features include: • One-click access to any data stream, packet mode, radio, TNC and rotor for quicker response in an emergency. • Support for multiple packet radio data streams, connection types and transmit/receive/listen modes. Up to 25 packet conversations and links can be managed when used with a Kantronics TNC, and up to nine with Timewave/AEA TNCs. • Built-in and customizable macros that automate common commands. • Support for dual TNCs, allowing radio amateurs to work in multiple packet modes simultaneously. • Multiple monitor windows, including separate windows for network traffic. • Robust support for packet mailboxes, including point-and-click settings for multiple TNC start-up/shut-down commands. Operators can manage Packet bulletin board systems from the TNC, even when the software and computer are shut down. • Robust file transfer capabilities in ASCII (text) or binary (data) formats, with an unlimited buffer for ASCII file transfers. • A built-in mini logging program built on a Microsoft Access database, plus interoperability with Log Window and DX4Win software. • Multiple call-book integration. • Compatibility with over 70 radios from leading manufacturers including ICOM, Kenwood, Tentec, Yeasu and Alinco. • Includes an advanced TNC Wizard that accelerates connecting and configuring a TNC for radio operation. “EmComm Ops was designed in response to requests from emergency communications volunteers who need advanced tools that help then set up and operate emergency radio services quickly, reliably and affordably,” Ruhl said. “It also gives radio operators who only work in packet mode a streamlined solution specific to their requirements.” A free, 30-day trial of EmComm Ops is available now on the CSS Website at www.cssincorp.com. The purchase of EmComm Ops includes one year of e-mail or phone technical support, access to the CSS user forum and free maintenance updates. About the Radio Operations Center
Re: [digitalradio] Re: ASCII ?
--- On Wed, 10/1/08, hankvond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: hankvond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [digitalradio] Re: ASCII ? > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 8:30 PM > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Becker > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Why did ASCII fail to catch on? Just curious! > > > > 73, > > > > John, K9MM > > > > Hi John, > > Probably because ASCII requires separate equipment. The > standard TTY > would not do ASCII and the home computers of 1980 would > were a little > too "software challenged". > > Hank - KI4UMX > > The computers would handle rtty with no problem. I wrote a rtty program on an old 8080 computer mother board that only had about 2 K of rom and 1 K of ram to do the program. Could do 60 and 100 wpm. I was using a ST-6 to send the pulses to the computer and generate the tones. The old computers often used the 110 (think that is the speed) ASCII for the input/output hard copy. That same 8080 was used to decode the ascii from W1AW when they sent it. The old Comodore and Radio Shack computers could handle that slow speed with no problem. I am sure there were several reasons the ASCII did not make it. The slower 60 WPM Baudot gave fewer errors than the faster speeds. Most hams could not type 60 wpm or faster. There was already much Baudot equipment out. The mechanical ASCII devices cost a lot more.
[digitalradio] ASCII
In about 1979 I had a DGM electronic keyboard and display setup. It also sent and received ASCII besides decoding RTTY and CW. Software programs were transmitted on the ham bands and I remember receiving many of them letter perfect. There was even a British Broadcast station that sent ASCII software programs on SW every Sunday night. Learned a lot of programming from looking at those programs. Don KA5DON
Re: [digitalradio] ASCII ?
John, I first got on RTTY in 1981, and had a Robot 800 keyboard. tI would send and recv ASCII. It was fast, but it was more difficult to tune that Baudot, and it was quite error-prone. I always loved the Clover mode, but it did not catch on either. 73 Buddy WB4M - Original Message - From: "John Becker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 4:57 PM Subject: [digitalradio] ASCII ? >I recall that when the FCC first authorized the use of ASCII code for > RTTY in addition to Baudot in 1980, the ham radio press made it appear > that this was a really big deal. > > I've Googled information on ASCII RTTY, and find no indication that is > being used to any significant extent. ARRL states that their teleprinter > bulletins are transmitted in Baudot, AMTOR, and *in ASCII only as time > allows*. Why did ASCII fail to catch on? Just curious! > > 73, > > John, K9MM > > > > Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at > http://www.obriensweb.com/sked > > 30M digital activity at http://www.projectsandparts.com/30m > > Recommended software : DM780, Multipsk, FLDIGI, Winwarbler ,MMVARI. > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
[digitalradio] Re: ASCII ?
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why did ASCII fail to catch on? Just curious! > > 73, > > John, K9MM > Hi John, Probably because ASCII requires separate equipment. The standard TTY would not do ASCII and the home computers of 1980 would were a little too "software challenged". Hank - KI4UMX
Re: [digitalradio] ASCII ?
It seems not so robust and more prone to errors. It requires the correct decoding of 7 bits vs 5 bits on Baudot. I read the same in old QST's. Jose, CO2JA John Becker escribió: > I recall that when the FCC first authorized the use of ASCII code for > RTTY in addition to Baudot in 1980, the ham radio press made it > appear that this was a really big deal. > > I've Googled information on ASCII RTTY, and find no indication that > is being used to any significant extent. ARRL states that their > teleprinter bulletins are transmitted in Baudot, AMTOR, and *in ASCII > only as time allows*. Why did ASCII fail to catch on? Just curious! > > 73, > > John, K9MM
Re: [digitalradio] ASCII ?
I think it had to many errors vs RTTY. And the lack of a machine. John, W0JAB At 03:57 PM 10/1/2008, you wrote: >I recall that when the FCC first authorized the use of ASCII code for >RTTY in addition to Baudot in 1980, the ham radio press made it appear >that this was a really big deal. > >I've Googled information on ASCII RTTY, and find no indication that is >being used to any significant extent. ARRL states that their teleprinter >bulletins are transmitted in Baudot, AMTOR, and *in ASCII only as time >allows*. Why did ASCII fail to catch on? Just curious! > >73, > >John, K9MM
[digitalradio] ASCII ?
I recall that when the FCC first authorized the use of ASCII code for RTTY in addition to Baudot in 1980, the ham radio press made it appear that this was a really big deal. I've Googled information on ASCII RTTY, and find no indication that is being used to any significant extent. ARRL states that their teleprinter bulletins are transmitted in Baudot, AMTOR, and *in ASCII only as time allows*. Why did ASCII fail to catch on? Just curious! 73, John, K9MM
[digitalradio] Re: Sound Card general question - follow up
If I run the calibration and it suggests and adjustment, I'm guessing there is some button push that implies, "Make it so." If I do that, will the adjustment be global? That is, apply to all the other Ham software I use that employs the sound card? For example, my PSK programs and CWGet? Also, I have a 16bit external sound card box and a 24bit external soundcard box. Sometimes bigger isn't always better. If the 24 bit is better, or even if it isn't and I have to use it, are there any configuration changes I need to make or can I just select it in the SoundCard popup menu of choices and be done with it? Thank you and 73, Paul
[digitalradio] Rumble Team Rules...Please Read Immediately!
Howdy Folks: I've been reading some great news on guys/gals getting together and forming some teams for the upcoming TARA PSK "Rumble" this coming weekend and that is so awesome! I thought I had better post this information so you all know there is some time limitations with your announcement of taking the TEAM CHALLENGE. "Each team must declare its name or ID and each of its members names and callsigns, at least 24 hours before contest kickoff. You can add and drop members from the Team up until this dead line. Then the Teams will be frozen. These declarations will be posted on the Results web page along with the teams other declarations. The team Gaffer can throw a challenge to another team indicating that they will whip em! Royally in the contest. If accepted by the other team, this challenge will be posted in the team's declaration on the Results web page. The winning team will add 100 points to its total and the loosing team subtracts 100 points. A maximum of 5 teams can be challenged by a single team for a total of +/- 500 whip em! points on the final score. Once the challenge is declared, if the challenged team declines, that challenge cannot be used again so think carefully before challenging :)" You can use this "NEW" easy to use link to DECLARE your team to the World! Meaning..."you are ready to RUMBLE!!" _http://www.n2ty.org/seasons/tara_rumble_challenge.html_ (http://www.n2ty.org/seasons/tara_rumble_challenge.html) **Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall0001)
[digitalradio] Spotless Sun: Blankest Year of the Space Age
Here is confirmation that conditions are as bad as we thought. http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/30sep_blankyear.htm Darrel
[digitalradio] Re: RTTY: Some "new ones" I mopped up this weekend
> > What software and/or hardware did you use? I've used both MMTTY and > MixW. It seems much easier to tune with MixW since you can "see" much > more of the band and any signals present. > > Tim, N9PUZ > Currently I'm using a KAM connected to the PKT jack on my FT-1000MP Mk.V and the WinWarbler program from the DXLab Suite. I plan to upgrade to a soundcard interface very soon. This was just the fastest way I could get on RTTY with what I already have. 73, John, K9MM
