Re: [digitalradio] HF packet still being used ???
Thank you John --- On Sat, 9/4/10, John Becker wrote: From: John Becker Subject: Re: [digitalradio] HF packet still being used ??? To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, September 4, 2010, 1:18 PM Sorry Dan your about one mouse click to late. I already gave it away to a good home. But my 2nd SCS TNC with pactor 3 is still up on the selling block. No longer need it since I pulled all the stuff out of the pick up truck. (see QRZ dot com profile photo) John, W0JAB At 10:57 AM 9/4/2010, you wrote: >If no one wants your PK-232, I would like to play with it. Would pay shipping. >Dan WD5CND
Re: [digitalradio] HF packet still being used ???
If no one wants your PK-232, I would like to play with it. Would pay shipping. Dan WD5CND --- On Sat, 9/4/10, John Becker wrote: From: John Becker Subject: [digitalradio] HF packet still being used ??? To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, September 4, 2010, 10:11 AM I have been listening to the HF bands for packet over the last few days not hearing any. Is it still in us? I have 2 PK-232's not in use for sometime now and will try to sell, give away or donate to the trash system. John, W0JAB
Re: [digitalradio] Re: New
Thanks Jeff, that helps a lot. Dan --- On Sun, 8/29/10, Jeff Moore wrote: From: Jeff Moore Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 9:51 PM Dan, The TH-F6A DOES NOT have a modem in it. It can be used with an external TNC (like a Kantronics KPC-3+, Open-Tracker, TNC-X, etc.). Quite a few of the TH-F6A's suffer from a low deviation problem. If people complain about your low audio, you WON'T be able to use the radio for packet comms, until the deviation problem is fixed. Radios that do have TNC's in them: TH-D7; Yaesu VX-8GR, FT-350;Kenwood TM-D700, TM-D710; Alinco DR-635 (several other Alinco mobiles have an optional TNC module). There are probably a few others I missed. Most will require a separate GPS also. How complicated it is depends on exactly what you want to do. If you want to send out APRS packets so that others can track your movements - all you need is a TinyTrak type device and an HT. If you want to be able to track others APRS signals on a map, then you need a full blown TNC, radio, and a computer running APRS software. The in-between area (you don't need a map display) - you can use the self contained units like the Yaesu DX-8GR (includes the GPS) or the Kenwood D7 HT ( will need a GPS) or the mobiles with TNC's built-in that will also require a GPS. Your best bet is to hook up with a local mentor that can help guide you through the ins and out of getting up and running on APRS. 73, Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY Bend, Oregon - Original Message - From: Dan Walker Thank you, seems so complicated! very limited funds. Will try to get it setup with your help. Again Thanks, Dan --- On Sun, 8/29/10, Jerry W wrote: From: Jerry W Subject: [digitalradio] Re: New To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 7:58 AM Dan, Although the TH-F6A has a Packet modem, that is not all you need to operate APRS with that HT. You will also need a computer, laptop if operating portable or mobile connected to the TH-F6A, see page 45 of the operating manual for cables ect. Then you would need a TNC that would connect with the GPS unit or manually enter in lat - long locations though software (see UI-View: http://www.ui-view.org/) that the TNC can send to the TH-F6A. You may want to look for a used Kenwood TH-D7A/G that has APRS as one of the built in features. There is supposed to be a new Kenwood HT, Kenwood TH-D72? with built-in APRS and GPS, however no release date as to when the new HT will be available. You might watch the TH-D7 Yahoo group for more information: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Kenwood_TH-D7/ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Dan Walker wrote: Plan on orerating mobile have Kenwood TH-F6A and my Tom Tom is not the highend unit I thought it was. TH-F6A says it has 1200bps modem for VHF. How do I put it all togather? Not even sure what I can do with APRS. Been off the air for a while. Dan I would like to try APRS, but have no idea where to start. I now have a GPS unit from TomTom. What else do I need and where do I start? Thank you, Dan Walker WD5CND
Re: [digitalradio] Re: New
Thank you, seems so complicated! very limited funds. Will try to get it setup with your help. Again Thanks, Dan --- On Sun, 8/29/10, Jerry W wrote: From: Jerry W Subject: [digitalradio] Re: New To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 7:58 AM Dan, Although the TH-F6A has a Packet modem, that is not all you need to operate APRS with that HT. You will also need a computer, laptop if operating portable or mobile connected to the TH-F6A, see page 45 of the operating manual for cables ect. Then you would need a TNC that would connect with the GPS unit or manually enter in lat - long locations though software (see UI-View: http://www.ui-view.org/) that the TNC can send to the TH-F6A. You may want to look for a used Kenwood TH-D7A/G that has APRS as one of the built in features. There is supposed to be a new Kenwood HT, Kenwood TH-D72? with built-in APRS and GPS, however no release date as to when the new HT will be available. You might watch the TH-D7 Yahoo group for more information: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Kenwood_TH-D7/ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Dan Walker wrote: Plan on orerating mobile have Kenwood TH-F6A and my Tom Tom is not the highend unit I thought it was. TH-F6A says it has 1200bps modem for VHF. How do I put it all togather? Not even sure what I can do with APRS. Been off the air for a while. Dan I would like to try APRS, but have no idea where to start. I now have a GPS unit from TomTom. What else do I need and where do I start? Thank you, Dan Walker WD5CND
Re: Re[2]: [digitalradio] New
Never had a page, how does it work and how will I get there? Like to try. Dan --- On Sat, 8/28/10, Vlad_UA6JD wrote: From: Vlad_UA6JD Subject: Re[2]: [digitalradio] New To: "Dan Walker" Date: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 10:57 PM Hello, Dan. If you like samples - let me know and I will design qrzcom page for you with APRS clickable logo in. You wrote : > Thank You, > Dan > --- On Sat, 8/28/10, Vlad_UA6JD wrote: > From: Vlad_UA6JD > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] New > To: "Dan" > Date: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 10:01 PM > > Just my two cents worth.. > About QRV APRS . > I think nobody use it now. > It possible to add APRS logo to your qrzcom page and when you click > on it show your position > You can see sample of use it in the few pages now, for example click > to: > http://www.qrz.com/db/k8waw or > http://www.qrz.com/db/do3nn > You wrote : >> I would like to try APRS, but have no idea where to start. I now >> have a GPS unit from TomTom. What else do I need and where do I start? >> Thank you, >> Dan Walker WD5CND > Best regards > 73 Vlad UA6JD > web design in www.qrz.com > Sample and download books > on http://www.qrz.com/db/Ua6jd > Best regards 73 Vlad UA6JD web design in www.qrz.com Sample and download books on http://www.qrz.com/db/Ua6jd
Re: [digitalradio] New
Thank You, Dan --- On Sat, 8/28/10, Vlad_UA6JD wrote: From: Vlad_UA6JD Subject: Re: [digitalradio] New To: "Dan" Date: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 10:01 PM Just my two cents worth.. About QRV APRS . I think nobody use it now. It possible to add APRS logo to your qrzcom page and when you click on it show your position You can see sample of use it in the few pages now, for example click to: http://www.qrz.com/db/k8waw or http://www.qrz.com/db/do3nn You wrote : > I would like to try APRS, but have no idea where to start. I now > have a GPS unit from TomTom. What else do I need and where do I start? > Thank you, > Dan Walker WD5CND Best regards 73 Vlad UA6JD web design in www.qrz.com Sample and download books on http://www.qrz.com/db/Ua6jd
Re: [digitalradio] New
Plan on orerating mobile have Kenwood TH-F6A and my Tom Tom is not the highend unit I thought it was. TH-F6A says it has 1200bps modem for VHF. How do I put it all togather? Not even sure what I can do with APRS. Been off the air for a while. Dan --- On Sat, 8/28/10, Andy obrien wrote: From: Andy obrien Subject: Re: [digitalradio] New To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 7:45 PM You don't specifically NEED a GPS unit for APRS unless you plan on operating mobile. APRS uses VHF, HF, or both. Which do you plan? If mobile, most use VHF.. 2 meters. On HF is is mainly 30M but there is some HF APRS on 20M too. Most common APRS methods use packet radio. 300 baud packet on HF and 1200 baud packet on 30M . There is some APRS using PSK but that is not as common. So, to start, we need to figure out how you intend to generate the packet tones and decode the received signals . If mobile , we need to figure out if you have one of the special radios that has a TNC built in. or are you going to need one like the small TNC-X (designed by my neighbour a few blocks away). Not mobile, you can use a soundcard based application , like Multpsk, to generate the Packet tones in APRS mode. Many GPS units do not work with ham radio and APRS. Only the higher-end GPS units tend to come with data output presented in a manner than can be linked to a radio. So don't assume your Tom Tom will do what u want unless it outputs data via NMEA So, tell me more about what you have in mind ? Andy K3UK On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Dan wrote: I would like to try APRS, but have no idea where to start. I now have a GPS unit from TomTom. What else do I need and where do I start? Thank you, Dan Walker WD5CND
[digitalradio] New
I would like to try APRS, but have no idea where to start. I now have a GPS unit from TomTom. What else do I need and where do I start? Thank you, Dan Walker WD5CND
[digitalradio] Re: SDR Info request
Where did you order it? I have been going in circles on the web, seems to be out of stock every where I found. Thanks Dan kc2sta
[digitalradio] Re: SDR Info request
Where did you order it? tkx Dan kc2sta
Re: [digitalradio] VHF Contesting
Amateur radio is not for contesting. Amateur radio is not a sport, it is for communications...meaningful communications. Exchanging signal reports and series numbers or such other drivel is not what amateur radio was intended for. We need to start getting back to RADIO and COMMUNICATIONS, which when you put them together gives us the concept of actually using radio to communicate with each other, You contesters want to do this stupid garbage on the radio, then you need to petition the FCC for contest radio spectrum for which a special license would be issued. Then, you can exchange all of your meaningless non-communications related garbage to your heart's content. You contesters are making us all look bad. How about some of you actually getting outside and exercising while using radio the correct way? Go hang a wire through some trees and actually have something called a conversation. Take your HT with you on a walk and actually get to know your fellow local hams, attract others to amateur radio while showing them that we actually know how to have conversations. I know that the concept of actually having a conversation with people is hard for most of you to wrap your mind around, but you should really try it! It works! You can actually make a few more friends! A conversation happens when two people actually spend time together in a social manner while one person talks and the other listens, then the one who was listening responds with meaningful replies on an actual topic based on everyday reality. Friendships happen when two people actually connect. You gotta have human connection man! Yes, there are actually people out in the world who would like to know you if you just think about more than contesting and actually use some social skills. It works just fine when you try! Let's put the communications back into radio, and goodwill back into the amateur meaning of amateur radio, and bring back a focus on elmering so new hams can actually learn a technical skill instead of just having books shoved in their faces without any incentive to learn. --- On Sat, 7/10/10, KH6TY wrote: From: KH6TY Subject: Re: [digitalradio] VHF Contesting To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 1:16 PM Greg, PSK31 is a very narrow signal and unless every transceiver has a TCXO, the drift may be too much for the AFC to follow. PSK31 is also very subject to Doppler distortino. In South Caronina, we use DominoEx 8 or DominoEx4 for 2m, but Olivia or Contestia works even better with the mulitpath and Doppler disturbances you often encounter. Contestia 64/1000 has proven to be the very best digital mode for UHF and VHF weak signsl and I run a daily schedule using that mode on 432. The problem is that probably nobody else is on any of the digital modes on 2m to talk to, but you could arrange some skeds. I suggest you use Contestia 64/1000 for the best results. Unfortunately, only fldigi currently supports Contestia 64/1000, so instead, try Contestia 32/1000 which DM780 and Multipsk both support. You will lose 3 dB in S/N, but it will still work pretty well. At least it will survive the QSB and Doppler disturbances on VHF. It would be great to see more people using Contestia on 144 and 432 weak signal work. Contestia will copy down to the noise when SSB is no longer able to be understood, and, at 30 wpm, is twice as fast as Olivia. You need at least a 1000 Hz signal bandwidth to fight the Doppler disturbances. 73, Skip KH6TY On 7/10/2010 7:38 AM, GregCT wrote: Hello and Good morning to all, Just looking for a little advise and guidance here. Next weekend is the CQ WW VHF Contest, I'm looking forward to setting out and playing in the contest and I'm thinking of attempting some digital contacts along with the usual SSB to up the score a bit. I've been having alot of fun with PSK31 mostly on HF with a spattering of other modes mixed in but PSK being the most prevelant. I think I would most likely see some PSK activity on 6m, but don't really know what to expect or look for as far as modes on the 2m side of things. Would someone operate PSK on that band or one of the other modes? I'm running HRD with DM780. My personal best score in the contest was in 2006 when I earned 1st place Rover for the New England Division with 8142 points. Due to work and family commitments, I was not able to enter again until last year, which also earned me 1st place New England again. I'm hoping that by adding the weak signal digital modes to the mix that I may "Defend" my title in this year's contest but also beat my personal best score and possible make it into the mix of the competition at the National level. My hopes are high, but i'm not sure if the effort of lugging the laptop along and keeping it powered up will be worth the result.. Any thoughts, ideas, comments that can you can send my way are appreciated, both 'for' and
Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital
Mr. Hinton, You have hit the nail right on the head! I have a really busy life the last many months and want to get study in for my Extra class ticket. I have my ARRL VE Credentials but cannot give a test until I have that Extra ticket in hand. Your comment about being proud of earning your ticket is right on and it really resonated with me because even though I am a No Code, I actually wish they would have kept the code and added skills instead of taking away. I just came along at the wrong time. I was once very proficient with CW, but wonder if I can ever pick it up again. I never used it on the bands, as I didn't have my ticket back then. I wanted to say that my pride in having earned everything I have is diminished. I am contemplating letting my ticket expire and giving it up from the experience I have had so far. I was going to sell my shack many months ago because I needed money, but it worked out that I didn't have to go that far. I have ambitions such as getting DXCC and WAS and Triple Play, but I have sadly found that everyone wants to use eqsl.cc and those don't count! No one wants to send real cards. I would have cards made, but who would I send them to when i know damn well I ain't gonna get a REAL card in return? My LOTW confirmations are a joke. I see many amateurs who can get confirmation on LOTW like wildfire, but those are powerhouse stations and I think I see that us lower power 100 watt stations just don't seem to be worth anyone's time. --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Gary A. Hinton wrote: From: Gary A. Hinton Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 7:27 PM Hello Gary, Gone are the days of being proud of getting your General or Extra Class ticket. Taking a bus to the FCC field office in the city making a day of it. Now days just memorize the answers and your a Extra Class. The system nowadays is so easy a Cave Man with a IQ of five, could get a license. Being a VE here also, I see testes that know the answers but nothing more about them. The basic problem people are just lazy and want everything on a silver platter. You should show these Tech's what they are missing out on, maybe they will upgrade. Remember you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. Now flame time. 73 Gary WB6BNE - Original Message - From: Gary To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 10:55 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital I thought I'd run something up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes: With the currently extended low sunspot cycle reducing the occurrence of 10 meter openings to near zero, there is little to offer new hams for radio operating opportunities besides VHF FM. Many of the people who attend our Technician license classes are interested in doing much more than chatting with the local guys on a local repeater. Sure, VHF SSB is a possibility but for us rural folks, even that provides slim pickings for distant contacts. We are seeing a very low percentage of newly licensed people ever buying a transceiver and getting on the air. We are estimating that number to be less than 10%. Other clubs in our area are experiencing the same problem: good turn out for classes and lots of licenses issued but few new hams getting on the air. It may be that VHF FM is not a viable stepping stone to getting very many new folks active in Amateur Radio. Being an old fart, I naturally began as a novice operating CW on the HF bands. Finding other stations to make contact with was never a problem as there was always activity on either 40 or 80 meters, depending upon the time of day. Making contact with other stations hundreds of miles away was common. While that same opportunity is available today, at least theoretically, CW operation is not part of a new ham's skill set. So... Here is the idea. Would you be amenable to allowing Technician Class licensees to operate digital modes in the Technician CW bands and do you think that would be of interest to new hams? I would imagine, the license limitations would have to state something like a maximum of 300 baud and 500 Hz bandwidth with a 200 watt power limit. There may be other limitations that might be nice to toss into the mix but this is a starting point for discussion. Your thoughts? Gary - N0GW
Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital
...We're no longer amateur radio operators though. We're all just a bunch of "educated CB'ers". When you take the licensing we have in place, the lack of equipment availability for working on one's equipment and teh fact that the factories make it damn impossible even if you DO know what you're doing. Take all teh similarities between us and CB, especially the ignorance that happens on ALL of the bands CONSTANTLY, and we're just using "souped up CB". Like any other amateur, I understand some things better than others and have my weaknesses. My strength is antenna feedlines, antennas, propagation, and manipulative operating in substandard propagation conditions. Others are more skilled in the interior of the radios and are hard core components gurus. Most of those folks are also the math geniuses. My strength is NOT math, except certain types of math for very specific uses. That goes to say I have a limitation. In the end, we're all just a bunch of nerds who enjoy a strange hobby. --- On Tue, 12/15/09, "John Becker, WØJAB" wrote: From: "John Becker, WØJAB" Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 6:02 PM At 06:54 PM 12/15/2009, you wrote: >I would agree with Danny but think it would be better just limiting them to 5 >watts (and avoiding the CW bands) . To really annoy people, I will point out >my long standing view that a license should not be required at all, other >than the completion of a three hour safety and regulation course. > >Andy K3UK I remember way back in the 50's and 60's listing to the 11 meter band there was some kind of law & order. Then the FCC again with all their wisdom dropped having to have a license of any kind and I think the rest of the story is well known by all.
Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital
The key word here is "past". we are in the here and now. People have changed. I
agree with Andy...get rid of licensing and just give amateurs a good, solid
course on safety, regulations, and ethical behavior.
--- On Tue, 12/15/09, Dave Ackrill wrote:
From: Dave Ackrill
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 4:38 PM
Dan Hensley wrote:
> I want to start with the fact that we remain in a very bad economy and people
> are losing their jobs. People are losing their homes, and everyone is trying
> to hold on to their money. Along with this problem, there exists the issue of
> what it costs to buy quality amateur equipment and then there is having to
> deal with any antenna restrictions.
Sorry, but it you look back over the last 60 years the economic ups and
downs have very little effect on the numbers of Radio Amateurs, or even
people engaging in hobbies.
In fact, if you look at slot cars and model trains, the major jumps in
people taking up these hobbies occur when the slumps in economic trends
occur...
Dave (G0DJA)
Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital
Perhaps I can give you some insight at various levels of though as to why new hams are NOT getting on the air. What I'm about to say should not be mistaken for the words of someone with an axe to grind or confused with someone who is simply being unpleasant. I want to start with the fact that we remain in a very bad economy and people are losing their jobs. People are losing their homes, and everyone is trying to hold on to their money. Along with this problem, there exists the issue of what it costs to buy quality amateur equipment and then there is having to deal with any antenna restrictions. There are new hams who don't have antenna restrictions and have to contend with neighbors who complain to the hills about an antenna being erected before it can even become operational. I personally had to deal with some local idiots who kept calling the police and the police kept trying to tell me I had to stop operating or get arrested for som offense they couldn't even name. I explained to these coppers that amateur radio is not within their jurisdiction, but was simply told to shut up. Another problem is that the "old guard" who have an axe to grind against new amateurs due to the change in licensing requirements and other new FCC policies to go with that change which occurred back in Feb of 2007, are running new amateurs off in droves. Hazing or outright threatening behavior by hams licensed before Feb of 2007 is another reason new hams are not getting on the air. I went through this myself. A mentality has arisen that "amateur radio is only for listening and you're never supposed to transmit". Everyone wants the bands quiet and wants the next amateur to just stop operating. It was so bad in my area that I am one of several amateurs who have had their vehicle vandalized or an attempt made to remove their antenna. There are more details I could go into, but will suffice to say that amateur radio has become a very nasty place to be with other hams who want to run everyone off. This is proven by the various amateur radio internet forums...outsiders such as new hams or potential hams see what is being discussed and they see the behavior there and decide they can spend their time and money in better places on better activities. Over the past year, I have tried to introduce amateur radio to two local schools. My proposals were turned down solely because of disparaging and unbecoming behavior on part of the amateur community. The schools cited two sources: amateur radio internet forums and one incidence during which a school official bought a radio receiver, heard horrible discussions happening locally and on the HF bands, and labeled it a possible threat to the children. Another incidence happened when I forgot to turn my radio down while waiting for one of my kids to come out of school and a school official heard one of our local jammers...the school wanted nothing to do with us at that point and opted to say thanks but no thanks. Combine this with a city official who found the online amateur radio enforcement letters at the FCC site who used that to also say thank you but we aren't interested. I have been told that Digital is very neat and have been at several demonstrations. I've operated RTTY with a good friend / elmer from my club and enjoy it immensely! Let's all examine the named factors now that I have put them out here and try to work with whatever we have left of a good public image. There has to be a way for us to find some redeeming quality in spite of the bad behavior of our ranks. --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Glenn L. Roeser wrote: From: Glenn L. Roeser Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 10:48 AM Gary, I think that it is a very good idea. I would surely go into the Novice sub-bands to work them. I for one see the Digital Modes as the future of Amateur Radio. As the Digital Modes become more popular we are also going to need more bandwidth. That will be something to think about as well. Very 73 to all, Glenn (WB2LMV) From: Gary To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 12:55:14 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital I thought I'd run something up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes: With the currently extended low sunspot cycle reducing the occurrence of 10 meter openings to near zero, there is little to offer new hams for radio operating opportunities besides VHF FM. Many of the people who attend our Technician license classes are interested in doing much more than chatting with the local guys on a local repeater. Sure, VHF SSB is a possibility but for us rural folks, even that provides slim pickings for distant contacts. We are seeing a very low percentage of newly licensed people ever buying a transceiver and getting on the air. We are estimating that number to be less t
Re: [digitalradio] Echolink Re: Ham HF networking digital communication systems
Echolink is just another computer messenger. Echolink is not ham radio, it has no place in ham radio, and fails the test even as a tool of ham radio. Echolink is for those who can't figure out how to make a real radio work! --- On Tue, 11/24/09, expeditionradio wrote: From: expeditionradio Subject: [digitalradio] Echolink Re: Ham HF networking digital communication systems To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 7:02 AM Hi Sigi, Yes, Echolink is a wonderful example of a modern networked radio communication system. Can you please tell me which HF frequencies and modes in europe you use to ring up your friend with echolink? How can you ring up your friend day and night with it on HF? Does anyone have a multi-band HF node on Echolink? I ran an HF-SSB voice echolink node for over a year, on 5371.5kHz and 18157.5kHz. It was fun and useful. Over 1000 hams used it during that year. Some of the more interesting QSOs on it were the ones with the most distant and unusual situations.. . such as: A european ham on holiday, walking along a beach in Canary Islands on a 2m FM HT, talking with an american ham hiking with a PRC-1099 manpack on 20W SSB 18MHz in Colorado USA. But of course, all the connections were manual operation with voice calling. Echolink lacked the key signaling and alerting feature to ring up someone if they were not listening to the speaker. It also lacked "remote PTT", so it had to be manually monitored, the old way. Perhaps the recent software updates have added new alert methods or remote PTT? The use of DTMF tones for signaling from end-to-end is not available in most systems due to many repeaters auto-muting DTMF. This makes it difficult to add any type of universal on-channel audio signalling. Bonnie VR2/KQ6XA > dg9bfc sigi wrote: > > > ….snip Bonnie VR2/KQ6XA wrote: > > From our mobile phone, we can instantly call a friend > > on their mobile phone in a distant part of the world, > > and it will ring... Can you do the same thing with > >your ham radio? > > -snip > > Yes I can do ….. with echolink … but there is > something missing in the system … > > It should be possible to connect to an echolink > node and tell the node that you are available > via this node (with dtmf tones) > > Something like the mybbs in the packet net …. > .
Re: [digitalradio] More RSID - PLEASE!
I hate to sound stupid, but here goes: What is all this RSID stuff? I've never heard of it until all these e-mails have been going back and forth.. Thanks for any help --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Tony wrote: From: Tony Subject: Re: [digitalradio] More RSID - PLEASE! To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 1:30 PM Phil, > Yes, there had been a considerable jump in activity on the "less traveled" digital > modes. I get the same responses as you do about RSID and it "just works". > philw de ka1gmn Glad to hear that -- thanks for the response.. Tony -K2MO > On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 16:37 -0400, Tony wrote: >> >> All, >> >> I've noticed a BIG jump in 'exotic mode contacts since RSID became >> available in HRD / DM780. I've made more Contestia / DominoEx / Thor >> QSOs in one week than I usually see in months! >> >> The usual response is "I've never worked this mode before" or "didn't >> recognize the mode, but the RSID picked you up". >> >> The RSID has greater sensitivity than the majority of digital modes >> and signals are often decoded by the ID without actually hearing or >> seeing the digital mode itself. >> >> This has helped in a situation where the antenna was pointed in the >> wrong direction and has allowed me to zero-in on a station that would >> have otherwise gone unnoticed. >> >> Patrick's PROP-RSID (Multipsk) sends call sign, locator, power and >> even the antenna gain and beam heading. The information pops-up in the >> waterfall.. >> >> So has anyone else seen an increase in mode activity with RSID? >> >> Tony -K2MO >> > >
Re: [digitalradio] City attempts to shut down ham radio .... !!
Guys...this is OLD news and the ham took the city to court. He won his case and it's over. --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Raymond Lunsford wrote: From: Raymond Lunsford Subject: Re: [digitalradio] City attempts to shut down ham radio !! To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 8:38 PM Is yhis a joke?K4YDI wrote: City attempts to shut down ham radio !! http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=_d5B9UPw_ 10 Messages in this topic (2) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages |Files |Photos |Polls |Members |Calendar Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe. MARKETPLACE Mom Power: Discover the community of moms doing more for their families, for the world and for each other Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity 12 New Members Visit Your Group Sell Online Start selling with our award-winning e-commerce tools. Yahoo! Groups Auto Enthusiast Zone Auto Enthusiast Zone Car groups and more! Support Group Lose lbs together Share your weight- loss successes. . __,_.._,___
RE: [digitalradio] Rigblaster Duo
Thanks Mike - I asked West Mountain to address the concerns expressed by others on the e-Ham website equipment reviews. West Mountain has been VERY good with sending me information, addressing the specific concerns mentioned on e-Ham and giving me specifics on the TS-820S connection. They did mention being cautious about connecting the isolated CW output into the Ts820S. They are concerned about the negative voltage (-65volts) keying on the old Kenwood . they said it may exceed the optical isolator capability. So I was hoping that another user might have plugged in another Kenwood 820 into the Duo. Do you know if your 850 or 870 has negative voltage keying? From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Blazek Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 3:07 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Rigblaster Duo danielkohler61 wrote: Anyone have experience using the new Rigblaster Duo? I will be connecting an old Kenwood TS-820S and Yaesu FT897D I replaced a Rigblaster Pro with a Duo right after they came out, using it with a Kenwood TS-850 and 870. I like it, but it works a little differently from the other models - it uses speaker level rather than line level audio. You shouldn't have any problems using two different make radios - that's what the jumper blocks are for. Mike, N5UKZ <><>
[digitalradio] Re: Unfamiliar mode...
Aha!! Thanks Mike. I didn't try BPSK125, didn't sound like it to me. Guess I was expecting the normal longer transmissions, but this is a contest. --Dan --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Mike Blazek wrote: > > Hi, Dan: > > That's PSK125 - it's the EPC PSK125 contest this weekend, which is the > only time I've heard the mode used. > > 73, > Mike N5UKZ >
[digitalradio] Unfamiliar mode...
I'm listening around 7035 - 7038 khz and hearing a mode I'm not familiar with. Sounds like some sort of packet like bursts of a few seconds at a time. It has a bandwidth of about 125 hz. I'm running DM780 and it's not supported. Thanks. Dan, W9FCC
Re: [digitalradio] CSS releases EmComm Ops Radio Software for Packet Radio
There are those of us who do not wish to be bombarded by Fred's muck & mire, especially in the body of an e-mail. Beyond that, you know as do all of us that posting a copy of a thread from another forum is a huge no-no due to copyright infringement. --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Mark Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Mark Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [digitalradio] CSS releases EmComm Ops Radio Software for Packet Radio To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 6:09 PM W4PC QRZ Member CSS releases EmComm Ops! EmComm Ops Radio Software Now Available Creative Services Software Releases New Addition to Its Radio Operations Center Software Suite for Packet Radio FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Muscle Shoals, AL, September 30, 2008 —Creative Services Software, Inc. (CSS) today announced the availability of EmComm Ops™, a new software solution for packet radio operations. Designed primarily for emergency radio communications, EmComm Ops helps amateur (Ham), commercial and MARS radio operators connect to, access, integrate and operate packet radio stations with a Windows PC or laptop from a fixed station or in the field. EmComm Ops is the first addition to CSS’ recently-rebranded Radio Operations Center™ (ROC) product line. The just-released version of EmComm Ops supports Kantronics and Timewave/AEA TNCs. A version for MFJ TNCs is now in beta testing and is available for pre-order or trial download. The pending release of EmComm Ops for MFJ hardware is in response to the recent re-introduction of TNC solutions by MFJ Enterprises. At an introductory price of $29.95, EmComm Ops offers radio operators an efficient and affordable entry into advanced software-enhanced packet and radio control. For operators who require support beyond packet radio, CSS’ ROC Digital Desktop™ ($99.95) offers a step up that supports the classic HF digital modes, as well as support for soundcard-based radio modes including PSK-31 and MT-63. EmComm Ops allows users to control radios, TNCs, rotors, and to access logging applications, call books and more — all from within a single Microsoft Windows application. Unlike MS-DOS or Windows 3.1-based radio software, EmComm Ops is a 32-bit Windows application designed from the ground up for Windows 2000, XP and Vista, offering users true multitasking, seamless integration of other radio or PC productivity tools, and the ability to take full advantage of the speed and processing power of the latest Windows-based computers. Operators can control radio transmissions while simultaneously running logging programs, call book programs or any Windows application (including Microsoft Office). “True multitasking means that EmComm operators can send and receive packet communications while simultaneously relaying messages to families and rescue personnel in e-mail,” said Rick Ruhl, W4PC, CSS president and chief architect of the company’s software suite. “And in emergency situations where communications infrastructure has been compromised or conditions limit reliable radio operation, messages can be noted in a text or Microsoft Word file, then imported into EmComm Ops to be re-transmitted at a later time when conditions improve. Operators can also export messages to a file to document communications. Of course, simple Windows cut-and-paste is also supported.” EmComm Ops supports emergency operations by accelerating, streamlining and automating packet radio. Features include: • One-click access to any data stream, packet mode, radio, TNC and rotor for quicker response in an emergency. • Support for multiple packet radio data streams, connection types and transmit/receive/ listen modes. Up to 25 packet conversations and links can be managed when used with a Kantronics TNC, and up to nine with Timewave/AEA TNCs. • Built-in and customizable macros that automate common commands. • Support for dual TNCs, allowing radio amateurs to work in multiple packet modes simultaneously. • Multiple monitor windows, including separate windows for network traffic. • Robust support for packet mailboxes, including point-and-click settings for multiple TNC start-up/shut- down commands. Operators can manage Packet bulletin board systems from the TNC, even when the software and computer are shut down. • Robust file transfer capabilities in ASCII (text) or binary (data) formats, with an unlimited buffer for ASCII file transfers. • A built-in mini logging program built on a Microsoft Access database, plus interoperability with Log Window and DX4Win software. • Multiple call-book integration. • Compatibility with over 70 radios from leading manufacturers including ICOM, Kenwood, Tentec, Yeasu and Alinco. • Includes an advanced TN
Re: [digitalradio] Grouply's comment
The Grouply thing just seems as if it is something along the lines of just another e-mail account for your group messages to go to. Why do that when one can just choose to receive a digest at the original e-mail address? Yahoo allows you to choose daily individual messages or a daily digest (daily archive) of all the groupo messages. I just don't see the point. --- On Sun, 8/31/08, Andrew O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Andrew O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [digitalradio] Grouply's comment > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "DIGITALRADIO" > Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 3:53 PM > FYI... > -- > Andy K3UK > > > I am one of the co-founders of Grouply. > I did want to clear up a couple of points, though. As far > as security > goes, we carefully protect your Yahoo password - we do not > phish or do > identity theft. We use it only for discovering your group > list and > retrieving messages - we will NOT use it for anything else, > like your > Yahoo email. > > People cannot read messages in Grouply unless they are a > member of > your Yahoo Group. Part of the reason we need your Yahoo ID > and > password, is that every time you login, we go and check > Yahoo Groups > to see which groups you have joined and which you have > left. Go to > http://blog.grouply.com/protect and view the "How does > Grouply protect > the confidentiality of my group messages?" question. > So Grouply does > not expose messages to non-members. > > Honestly we do not want to have the passwords, but that is > the only > way now for us to respect the memberships in Yahoo Groups. > If Yahoo > provides an Yahoo Groups API, we would noy have this issue. > We have > talked to them about this, but there are no firm > timetables. If you > have influence with them… ;-) While I prefer not to get > the password, > there are successful services that use passwords from other > websites. > Are you familar with meebo? It allows you to use all of > your IM > accounts from one site (like what Grouply does, but for > IM). To do > that, you have to store your Yahoo, AOL, MSN, etc. > passwords and IDs > on their website. They have over 19 million users - any of > which could > be a member of these groups. Check out mint.com - they > aggregrate your > financial data. There you store your bank and credit card > account > passwords and IDs - which is more sensitive than even my > Yahoo ID and > password, at least for me. > > Rich" > > > > Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked > Page at > http://www.obriensweb.com/sked > > Check our other Yahoo Groups > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology
That's the ARRL for ya. Individual hams aren't hams because they don't have that corporate body effect. The way i see it, although I love amateur radio is that alot of people want it to die so that they can make a buck with it like some of the GMRS repeater owners do, and then the PS agencies / military will get what is left of the freqs, then the businesses, etc. Echolink and Winlink never had much of a chance in reality anyway. It's good for it's intended uses, but with the number of people against it...it's an impossible situation. --- On Sat, 7/5/08, Miroslav Skoric (YT7MPB) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Miroslav Skoric (YT7MPB) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, July 5, 2008, 11:16 AM expeditionradio wrote: > A blatant example was what we saw with abolition of morse testing. If > the old morse test wasn't enough to scare away the first generation of > computer-raised youngsters, then the next generation of web kids was > turned off by the vitriol spewed by those who fought to keep ham radio > locked in the 19th Century. After ham radio stupidly shot ourselves in > that foot, we sat back and allowed a huge and vicious attack on > Winlink and Echolink. There went the next wave of youngsters. > Some time ago I wrote to ARRL asking for donating free copies of QST and their promotive materials I could use to promote ham radio during various technical conferences in Europe. They refused with an explanation they preferred other ham radio societies to promote the hobby, rather than individual hams doing that. Recently I wrote to the QRZ editors for the same reason. They did not bother to reply at all. So far about 'efficient' promoting of ham radio ... 73 Misko YT7MPB PS: Btw, does anybody know whom to contact about copies of old articles of Greg Jones WD5IVD: 'Packet Radio Prospects for Educational Data Communications' (1992) and 'An Educator's Alternative to Costly Telecommunications' (1992). (I would need copies of them for reviewing and referencing in my planned book chapter.)
Re: [digitalradio] Signal on 3850
Download Digipan or Ham Radio Deluxe. Then there is also MixW. Use it, tune to the freq, do some fiddling and find out! --- On Tue, 5/13/08, Ralph Mowery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Ralph Mowery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [digitalradio] Signal on 3850 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2008, 7:23 PM A friend told me to lisen on 3850 lsb +- a kc or two. There is some digital type signal there. Does anyone know what it is and where it is comming from.
[digitalradio] Re: Need to Expand the HF Auto Band Segments
Posted by: "Greg" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:47 pm (PST) Apparently Bonnie is ignoring me because I keep asking how can you call winlink a 24/7 system when you need a live operator to generate the email and a live operator on the other end to read it. Lot of good that email does going to that automatic system only to sit there because no one, according to Bonnie's message below, is around to get it. Greg KC7GNM == Others are being ignored because the questions are too hard to answer. Back to the topic: I have read nothing that justifies why these wide band modes need to overtake the allocation of other modes. It appears to be a group that belongs to a sub-sub section of the population that believes they should have more of the pie over 99% of the whole. The emergency line of discussion is mute. All modes are needed during an emergency. But, there in no signal that is more important than the call for help in what ever form it need be. The op center reports and HQ updates should never interrupt or negate that priority. If you want the respect of other hams world wide, improve the robots. Make them more efficient in use of band width. Make them reactive to other signals on the frequencies. Make them better so they do not create QRM to other modes or themselves. Don't complain about your neighbors house when your own house needs fixing. As I often say to people who have problems, "It is not the machine, tool, device, or technology that is good or bad, it is how you use it." Since my last three posts never got thru the email reflector, and I am not sure that this one will, I am done on this topic. I don't know if I have ticked off the moderators (no, Andy...) or the internet gods, but I am out of this discussion. I will delete this topic without reading from this point forward. 73 es God Bless, Dan, KA3CTQ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[digitalradio] Re: Need to Expand the HF Auto Band Segments
Give me an example of how your little group of robots has helped out in an emergency. If you do, I can give you one hundred times the examples of how live operators reacted and even were there ahead of emergencies. Ask any ham who was in the DC area on 9-11 how they kept the communications running. Ask the large group of ops who left this area and went to help out during Katrina. Ask my old neighbors in rural North Carolina who made sure we has communication during any of hurricanes or ice storms when the power and phones were down for days. We have people available all the time. We do not need to be on the air 24/7. We need to be active when and WHERE the problem is. Ask any group who respond to disasters if they want a ham or a computer. I am willing to bet they want a live person. Can your robots react to an emergency by being on the location in an instant? The only way they can is if a live op goes with them and then there are better ways to communicate. I am sorry Bonnie, but you are arguing from a very weak spot. 1% asking for 10% and more for a poor efficiency mode is nothing but a "land grab". Your points are based in personal opinion and lack any examples or numbers to back up the need to make this change. I spend all day working with people who want and need to make improvements in products and processes. The problem is put before me with some data and facts to analyze. I see no fact or real information. I would tell you that you have no real problem that requires you to take resources from others and you need to go improve your own area. Basically, improve your own mode before you try to run off all the others. Make the robots more efficient and and responsive before trying to take band allocations others. Dan expeditionradio wrote: Respectfully, those are all wonderful groups. But none of them provide 24/7 access for emergency traffic on HF. At best, their response is measured in hours or days. Such 24/7 emergency access only exists with automatic systems. If you are voluteering to provide 24/7 service with manual systems, you will need more than just handwaving and oratory. You will need operators on duty around the clock, and a real system for alerting them. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[digitalradio] Re:Need to Expand the HF Auto Band Segments
I agree with Roger. This plan would place uncontrolled stations on many of the presently used CW calling frequencies world wide. These are not "dormant" sections of the band. To use the "I don't hear anyone" statement during the solar minimum is just irresponsible. I hear the call of CQ in CW every night in these areas of the bands. The other group that would also be hurt are the controlled digital stations. PSK, Olivia, RTTY, and other modes use calling frequencies in these ranges. Yes, I hear them every day in these frequency ranges. I have been using both CW and digital for decades. Both are used by a great number of hams world wide. I need to say that controlled amateur radio stations far out-number these robots. The lion's share should not be given to the mouse. One last thing, amateur radio licenses are given to PEOPLE to operate on the air. Dan, KA3CTQ Posted by: "Roger J. Buffington" [EMAIL PROTECTED] w6vzv Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:10 am (PST) What nonsense. In fact it is a small group of hams that are using robot techniques, and if anything the number peaked in the 90s and has been decreasing ever since in terms of actual signals on the air. (Admittedly some of this decrease may be due to the sunspot cycle minimum). Automatic operations are extremely unpopular with most hams, and are far out of the mainstream of amateur radio. Most of the communications are probably illegal under US and other countries' regulations due to the lack of listening before transmitting, and in many cases the communications consists of business over-the-air internet messages which are violative of US Part 97 and other country counterparts. Automatic operation will continue to decrease as wireless internet service becomes more common, and Pactor robot operations will become less and less desireable as RV Parks, and boat marinas will allow users Wi Fi internet access. Most hotels do this now. Even Starbucks does this now. Pactor and unattended operation will then gradually fade away as a third-rate alternative to direct internet access. By the way, let's all remember who started this obvious flame-bait thread. de Roger W6VZV Posted by: "expeditionradio" [EMAIL PROTECTED] expeditionradio Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:57 pm (PST) The use of the Automatic Sub Bands on HF ham radio for digital data has been increasing tremendously over the past 5 years. Obviously, automatic and similar types of operation have become extremely popular with ham operators. This growth pattern appears to be continuing into the future as more digital methods and innovation are forged. The use of HF radios interfaced with computers is now commonplace, especially for ham radio emergency communications systems. When the Automatic Sub Bands were originally defined in the 20th century, the number of HF operators using automatic systems was much smaller than it is now. Currently, hams using these segments are experiencing severe congestion and longer waiting times for frequency availability, while adjacent band segments lay nearly dormant. There is now a great need to expand the Automatic Sub Bands, especially for the North America and European regions. A reasonable suggestion is that automatic sub bands be approximately 10% of each HF ham band. In other words, if an HF band is 350kHz wide, then at least 35kHz of it should be available as an automatic sub band for standard 3kHz bandwidth signals. It is especially important that 3kHz bandwidth be available, because this provides the best flexibility and enables modern fast time-division sharing methods for efficient spectrum use, with many stations sharing the same spectrum in short intervals of time. This trend is away from older slow data methods using frequency division sharing. Here are some suggested expanded frequency ranges for HF automatic band segments. 1805-1815 Worldwide 1990-2000 North America 3560-3610 North America 3590-3630 Worldwide 7100-7125kHz North America 7100-7110kHz Worldwide (in the new international band) 7035-7045kHz Worldwide 10140-10150 Worldwide 14085-14125kHz Worldwide (n 14099.5-14100. 5 IARU beacon net) 18100-18109. 5kHz Worldwide 21090-21135kHz Worldwide 24920-24929. 5kHz Worldwide 28100-28199. 5kHz Worldwide A push should be made by digital operators everywhere around the world to recognize and allocate band segments that are the same, or overlapping worldwide. This is needed to assure the interoperability and standardization necessary for emergency communications. It is in the interest of all HF ham operators for bandplanners and spectrum regulating authorities to designate adequate and reasonable portions of the HF bands for automatic use. 73---Bonnie Crystal VR2/KQ6XA __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[digitalradio] Anyone want to help a newbie
Hi all. Dan here KD7UFF in Forks, WA I have a Tigertronics SL1+ I have it set up right (I think) But I have only had another call sign show up once when I used it on JT65A & I have not even tried anything else yet. I am about to give up and sell this thing. So if anyone near me feels like giving me a hand I would be really thankful.. I have read the "Guide" that one person on this board made.. I seem to have everything right But no luck.. If I can't figure it out soon I may just sell the whole SL1+ Its set-up for a 706M2G... Thanks in advance.. 73 Dan/KD7UFF kd7uff(at)yahoo.com
[digitalradio] Uiview under Vista
Will Uiview using AGWPE run under Vistia Dan N0ZIZ
Re: [digitalradio] QRV JT65 40 meters
Can you also give me the freqs for each band? Thanks Tony.. I have no idea waht I am dong.. I keep getting a "73 ?" with no call sign.. I want to learn this bad, Dan/KD7UFF - Original Message From: KT2Q <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:56:19 PM Subject: [digitalradio] QRV JT65 40 meters All: QRV on 40 meter JT65 at 0600z -- 7076 dial LSB. Calling CQ second sequence. Will be in the shack for 1/2 hour or so... Tony KT2Q __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[digitalradio] Looking For An elmer (WA) or Anywhere
Hi All. Dan here KD7UFF. I have a 706M2G with a TigerTronics SL-1+ the USB version.. I really would like someone I could talk to about my setup.. I have read some info even the "Bozo's Guide" I just can't seem to figure this out. I have WJST, DigiPan & MixW... I have some more programs that come with the SignalLink disc... Anyone game? I would hate to have to sell this thing.. My wife bought it for me as a gift. So i would be in trouble if I got rid of it.. I hate to see sit here.. I have tried it a few times.. But no luck.. Maybe I am not waiting long enough.. Plus I hate to think if I am doing it wrong I am transmitting over someone or something like that.. That is my biggest worry.. Anyone interested in working with me can email me a kd7uff(at)yaho..com 73 Dan/KD7UFF/AG
[digitalradio] I am on.. No Idea what I am doing.
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Re: [digitalradio] Re: New to Digital
I have Digipan,WJST,MixW and what ever else that comes with the SL-1+ I really want to get started. And thanks for the congrats on the General. 73 Dan/KD7UFF/AG - Original Message From: Bill McLaughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 9, 2007 4:01:55 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: New to Digital Hello Dan, First, congratulations on the General ticket! Am sure if you give us details as to the software you are using and what modes are of interest (hopefully they coincide!), there are many hear that would be glad to help you. Suspect PSK31 would be the easiest mode to start with; the usual watering holes are 3.580, 7.070 and 14.070 USB. Listen alot, ask questions and have fun! 73 Bill N9DSJ --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, "Dan Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > Dan here KD7UFF in CN77 Forks, WA I got my Gereral ticket on 3/31/07 > and just got my Tigertronics SL-1+ USB version for my 706MIIG... I will > (with some of your help) try to start getting this thing going.. As Far > as I know I am the ONLY person in CN77 running digitalor anything in > Forks.. So I am game (with your help if needed) I guess my 1st questiin > would be what freqs for what bands.. > Thanks all > 73 > Dan/KD7UFF/AG > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news
[digitalradio] New to Digital
Hi all, Dan here KD7UFF in CN77 Forks, WA I got my Gereral ticket on 3/31/07 and just got my Tigertronics SL-1+ USB version for my 706MIIG... I will (with some of your help) try to start getting this thing going.. As Far as I know I am the ONLY person in CN77 running digitalor anything in Forks.. So I am game (with your help if needed) I guess my 1st questiin would be what freqs for what bands.. Thanks all 73 Dan/KD7UFF/AG
Re: [digitalradio] qrz.com ... down??
> It's 16:45Z, and it seems that both WWW.QRZ.COM and online.qrz.com are > down (neither is even answering pings). > > Anybody else seeing this, and if so... anybody know what's up?? Out for me here in Nevada, too... My guess would be that they're doing a software/hardware upgrade. Guess we'll just have to check back later in the day... 73 de Dan, KE7HLR
[digitalradio] WAS: Re: US Hams Codeless Feb 23/NOW: upgrading
James et al; Here is the way we do it at the VE sessions that I help. If a person passes a test with flying colors, such as maybe only missing a couple or 3 questions, we ask him/her if they want to take the next higher test. That way, they may take it without paying for another test session. You never know, you might just pass it! On the other hand, if the person just barely passes, we don't suggest another test. So, in conclusion, if you pass with a pretty darn good score, why not take the next one? What have you to lose? You have everything to gain! 73 es gud luk de Dan Harriman Orange, Texas --- James Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was in this same boat, but when I went to take the > test I was prepared. Had I waited another 5 weeks I > would have to continue studying and wondering if I > could pass the test. > > One possibility is that I could take the extra test > when I upgrade to general. The issue with this is I > am not ready for the extra test and I doubt I will > be ready in 4 weeks. > > k6wrj > - Original Message - > From: James M Punderson IV > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 8:55 AM > Subject: [digitalradio] Re: US Hams Codeless Feb > 23
Re: [digitalradio] Your first ever PSK31 QSO?
> When was your first ever PSK31 QSO ? December 22, about two weeks ago... Already made DX contacts with stations in Canada, Mexico, Japan, Venezuela, and Cuba. I love this mode! 73 de Dan, KE7HLR
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Can You Call Another Ham On The Air? Right Now?
Hey Bill, You know, this is a group that is focused primary on serious technical issues. A simple google search on you reveals your fairly wide participation in various groups that marks you as a fairly good enabler for threads that ultimately end up as . flames. Bill, don't do that to this group. Just let some of your internet experience continue being serious and apply your argumentative techniques elsewhere. You are pretty good at what you do but I don't think digitalradio is a good playground to apply your masterful techniques. Thanks Bill. You probably have a canned answer for requests such as this but what the hey. 'Good luck in the contest'. 73 - Original Message - From: Bill Turner To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Can You Call Another Ham On The Air? Right Now? ORIGINAL MESSAGE: On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 07:13:49 -, "expeditionradio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi Bill, > >With all your technical and operating expertise, you're stumped? > >Bonnie KQ6XA REPLY FOLLOWS Stumped about what? -- Bill, W6WRT [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] FH Re: Multiband Scanning ALE on HF and VHF
I have been trying to download PC-ALE from the HFLINK site for the past 3 days but it doesn't let me. Do I need to register somewhere before I can D/L? - Original Message - From: expeditionradio To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 9:39 PM Subject: [digitalradio] FH Re: Multiband Scanning ALE on HF and VHF --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, KV9U <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My understanding is that your group promotes frequency > hopping ALE. If you are referring to the HFLINK group, that is incorrect. HFLINK does not presently promote frequency hopping "FH". Currently, PCALE does not do FH, and I know of no plans for it to provide FH capability. Neither the CAT system nor the system architecture of most common ham radios would have the necessary timing to enable the common standards for FH. However, it may be possible to invent a new amateur version of FH that could be used with common CAT control. There are a few hams I know who have FH-capable radios for HF, but I don't know of any with FH ALE radios. The QMAC HF-90 has FH option, but it doesn't do ALE. Instead, QMAC uses a scanning flavor of CCIR 493-4 SELCALL that does a good job of approximating some of the most desirable features of ALE. The HFLINK group is involved on HF and VHF with the most common international standards for both ALE and SELCALL. If there is interest among hams in freqeuncy hopping ALE in the future, it is likely that HFLINK will also be involved in FH ALE or FH SELCALL. You can view the ALE information on the web, or join the HFLINK group on yahoo to see exactly what amateur ALE is about. The information on the web covers the main details. Questions can be answered on the HFLINK group. But, the bottom line is: mainstream HF ALE amateur radio activity presently does not use frequency hopping. More ALE info: http://hflink.com Bonnie KQ6XA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: N2CKH REPLY - Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSK with Mike Plug or ACC plug on Icom Rig
Thanks Steve. I thought I would look into PCALE as a result of your post but it seems like HFLINK does not authorize the downloads (Download PCALE Software Version v1.061). Maybe the G4GUO server is down. Do anyone know if PCALE is still publically available? Dan AI4QJ - Original Message - From: Steve Hajducek To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 8:03 PM Subject: Re: N2CKH REPLY - Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSK with Mike Plug or ACC plug on Icom Rig [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: N2CKH REPLY - Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSK with Mike Plug or ACC plug on Icom Rig
Thanks Steve and I stand corrected. I didn't know Pactor I is OK and in fact the defacto standard. As you say, a 100% reliable soft protocol supporting pactor I is not available. I have never run into one that is free (but I have seen shareware/not freeware). >From the MARS site: Eligibility to join MARS The applicant must: a.. Be 18 years of age or older. b.. Be a United States citizen or resident alien. c.. Possess a valid amateur radio license issued by the Federal Communications d.. Commission. e.. Have digital capability, i.e., Packet, Amtor, Pactor, or G-TOR. f.. Possess a station capable of operating on MARS HF frequencies. MARS members must agree to operate in accordance with the rules and regulations governing MARS as follow: a.. A Minimum of 12 hours participation per calendar quarter with 6 hours in their primary HF assignment. I think the bullet about digital capability causes people to think they must have a TNC to apply for MARS and for all practical purposes, it is true. Sorry about the pactor II/III confusion as I was incorrectly assuming pactor I was obsolete and assuming MARS went to the proprietary II/III versions. Thanks for the great info! -- Original Message - From: Steve Hajducek To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 4:43 PM Subject: N2CKH REPLY - Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSK with Mike Plug or ACC plug on Icom Rig Hi Dan, Regarding "I have seen a website in which one military branch requires MARS affiliates to have PACTOR II or III", there is NO requirement in MARS (be it Army, Air Force or Navy-Marine Corp) that PACTOR II or III capability be possessed. Taking into account the cost of the sole source SCS PTCII modems, that would be a stupid and unrealistic requirement. 98-99% of all MARS members that own a TNC can do no better than PACTOR I and its not going to change, most that buy one these days get a used one and if it doesn't have PACTOR I and can be updated (old KAM's, PK232's) they do so, the last one I bought with PACTOR I cost me $10USD. The reader interested in just those facts can stop here! Within the MARS programs, PACTOR I has become the defacto standard TNC/Modem protocol as it exists in most all TNC/Modems made or updated since the early 1990's, thus the bulk of MARS members that own a TNC have PACTOR I. MARS also makes use of the CLOVER, GTOR and PACTOR II and III protocols found in commercial TNC/Modems, all of which are proprietary to single source vendors. All of the existing Legacy BBS systems in MARS use PACTOR I, some operators have added SCS modems, in Army MARS where WL2K is now authorized an operator of a PMBO must have an SCS modem, however PACTOR I is all that is needed of the end user and frankly, I don't foresee more than about 1 or 2 percent of MARS members ever owning an SCS PTCII modem unless they get it cheap used. Just as has been the case with Amateur Radio, the MARS program makes use of protocols using the PC Sound Device Modem (PCSDM) a.k.a. "Sound Card". To date however there is not a 100% timing reliable PCSMD software tool that supports PACTOR I, that will change in time as SCS allows non-commercial implementation of PACTOR I on the PCSDM by whomever desires write such and there are DOS and *nux implementations. PACTOR I is also planned for the MARS-ALE tool. For attended station-to-station the modes used the most in MARS at present to pass traffic are the Broadcast (BRD) modes that make use of robust Forward Error Correction (FEC) protocols such as MT-63 developed for Amateur use and DTM BRD, DMB BRD and FS-1052 BRD Miltary protocols via MARS-ALE as FEC is usually much faster than ARQ, the later being necessitated when accessing an unattended system obviously. The TNC ARQ protocols have been giving way big time to these BRD FEC protocols for all attended operations in MARS, this is especially true when on a Net and sending a Broadcast of a message to all hands. The MARS-ALE tool currently supports the MIL-STD-188-141 protocols used with ALE of AMD, DTM BRD/ARQ, DBM BRD/ARQ via 125 baud FSK modems and MIL-STD-188-110 PSK modem for high speed waveform support with FED-STD-1052 Data Link Protocol (DLP) implemented for BRD and ARQ, the use of FS-1052 DLP ARQ is in the same raw speed ballpark at PACTOR III. The current Alpha build of MARS-ALE has also added support for external TNC/Modems to add those protocols supported which are not yet implemented on the MARS-ALE PCSDM, as stated PACTOR I is planned, as is GTOR, we are also looking at developing an adaptive MT-63 ARQ protocol with additional symbol rate and data rate capabilities for both more robust operation on one hand and speed on the other as the channel conditions warrant, MT-63 is basically an F
Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSK with Mike Plug or ACC plug on Icom Rig
I have seen a website in which one military branch requires MARS affiliates to have PACTOR II or III capability (which automatically disqualifies me). Of course, PACTOR must use a TNC when used with a PC since it is proprietary and they do not have software versions available. - Original Message - From: jhaynesatalumni To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 12:53 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: PSK with Mike Plug or ACC plug on Icom Rig That should work fine. As a matter of academic curiosity, what kind of TNC are they using in MARS these days? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Newbie
While I do not neccessarily agree or disagree with this interpretation of Part 97, I did not foresee any controversy to my original post and request that we do not continue with a debate on this topic in this particular group. There is a sister group suitable for that purpose (of which I am not a member). If anyone wants to continue: "A sister group, Digipol, exists at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digipol . Digipol is a separate area for discussion of policy matters such as band allocation, ARRL and FCC digital policies, unattended operation debates, etc, etc. Debates about the aforementioned should be on digipol only. If in doubt, contact the group owner (Andy K3UK)." 73 es GL de AI4QJ - Original Message - From: Ralph Mowery To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Newbie --- Dan Finn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, you can receive that way. Also, you can > transmit by pressing PTT on the mic and hold it to > the computer speaker. Very simple, good isolation :) > and many reports of a good waterfall. > > It can be done that way, but I would not recommend it unless you take steps to keep out other sounds. When you hook the mic up and use it in the nonvoice portions of the band, any sound in the room (telephone ringing , yelling at the kids, and so on) is a violation of the FCC rules. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Newbie
Yes, you can receive that way. Also, you can transmit by pressing PTT on the mic and hold it to the computer speaker. Very simple, good isolation :) and many reports of a good waterfall. - Original Message - From: Ralph Mowery To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Newbie --- kd5zxx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Being a "newbie" to ham radio and digital in > particualr, I would like > to at least "listen in". Not much in the way fo > equipment at the time, > but I do have a Kenwood R-1000 receiver with a > random length long wire > antenna. What is the cheapest and easiest way to get > it connected to > my computer? Any help would be appreciated. > 73's > As others have mentioned , just to receive you can place your computer mic next to the speaker of the receiver. Beter may be to have some headphones and put the mic next to the headphone and wrap it with a cloth towl to keep out some of the room noise. Then go here and download some of the free programs that work off the sound card of the computer. http://www.muenster.de/~welp/sb.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Noise
I hear it loud and clear in central NC. I heard that ARRL has a person who specializes and spectrum protection and has had good results in the past reporting these problems and following thorugh with the FCC. I do not know who this person is though; it was mentioned in a recent QST article. It sure rips up the PSK31 freqs.. - Original Message - From: mac2251 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:58 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Noise --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "mac2251" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone know what the signal is on 14071.944 ? It runs about S8 with > some qsb, and sounds like high speed clicking noise. Hope its not a > local problem. Mike K9HCK > Its not Hell altho I did get a nice almost plaid print. It seems to have one main trail with several weaker trails on either side. I hope its not a permanent fixture on that part of the band,it tears up the psk freqs. Mike K9HCK [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[digitalradio] DominoEX EOT in a macro
I'm using ZL2AFP DominoEX. I figured out how to get the return to receive funcion to work in a macro. Just type and hit return at least twice to insert two blamk lines after the . Dan, W9FCC Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) SPONSORED LINKS Ham radio Craft hobby Hobby and craft supply YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "digitalradio" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [digitalradio] Have MFJ 1278 TNC Need Manual!!!
Googlt to "Manualman" They have 14000 manuals for old things. Dan N0ZIZ - Original Message - From: jeffnjr484 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 11:28 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Have MFJ 1278 TNC Need Manual!!! Hello Folks,I have a MFJ 1278 multi mode tnc and im in need of a manual I know this is a long shot but MFJ no longer has the manuals for this model is there anyone out there that can copy the manual or put it on pdf file and email it to me. I've heard bad things about this tnc and some good but im trying to do 2 meter packet at this time and maybe some hf digital modes later . Any help would be greatly appreciated im at a lost here!!. ThanksJeff KD4QIT Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) SPONSORED LINKS Ham radio Craft hobby Hobby and craft supply YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "digitalradio" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [digitalradio] Any X-Y Scope software available
Try APWGE. It uses both sound card channels. Dan N0ZIZ - Original Message - From: Stan To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 8:03 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Any X-Y Scope software available Anyone know of a soundcard program that would allow one to feed signals to both stero inputs? This would allow an external frequency standard to be used to adjust the soundcard calibration.Thanks, Stan Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) SPONSORED LINKS Ham radio Craft hobby Hobby and craft supply YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "digitalradio" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[digitalradio] Driver error
When loading HAMPAL I get the error message "TVICHW32 Driver open error". Click OK and the error message "Cannot load ASPI layer driver" When OK is clicked Hampla loads and operates correctly. What is TVICHW32 and ASPI? How do I correct this problem? Dan N0ZIZ Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to telnet://208.15.25.196/ Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ Looking for digital mode software? Check the quick commerical free link below http://www.obriensweb.com/digimodes.html SPONSORED LINKS Craft hobby Hobby and craft supply Ham radio YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "digitalradio" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [digitalradio] Anyone for a Christmas Day digital contest?
Wow! You either have a very understanding wife/girlfriend/partner/__ , or you will be looking for a new one in the new year :) 73, Dan Goodwin VO1MX VO2ZZ > >Any suggestions for a fun digital modes related HF contest that we can run >on Christmas Day? > > >Andy K3UK _ Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented Microsoft® SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/ELTolB/TM ~-> The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ More info at http:///www.obriensweb.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[digitalradio] digipan
I don't know what I did to change this. But my water fall on my digipan is just blue. with now yellow steaks mixed in , like it used to be. I want to get the yellow back. It is hard to see in dark blue with black background. I tried going in to the file menu under configure, Color, waterfall, I set it for yellow palette, and I have click on default, and or load, or save or apply, and I still get a blue water fall. What am I doing wrong. I have been using digipan for two years now , and just recently ran into this problem. I don't know how it got changed. Dan, ka1bno The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ More info at http:///www.obriensweb.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
