Re: [digitalradio] Does an RST of 519 Make Sense ?

2006-08-20 Thread Kevin der Kinderen
Now that was funny!

Kev K4VD

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Re: [digitalradio] Re: HEATHKIT HD15 PHONE PATCH

2006-08-12 Thread Kevin der Kinderen
I used to have a TS-830S. On the 830 mailing list, there were a number of
people using the PC-1 phone patch for PSK operation. I had the SignaLink so
I never bothered, but I think, if you can figure out the connections, it
should make a great interface for digital work.

I always recommend picking up a KK7UQ IMD Meter or the PSK Meter (other
vendor) to keep an eye on your own signal. They can often show a problem
before it is noticed on the air. It might help when setting up your phone
patch.

In google, I put in phone patch for PSK and got a number of hits. You
might find some good information there to help you set it up.

Good luck and 73,
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[digitalradio] Anyone Using the SDR-1000?

2006-07-16 Thread Kevin der Kinderen
I'm considering trading my current rig for the SDR-1000 and would like 
to hear what other digital operators think of the rig.

My current rig is the Yaesu FT-1000MP MkV Field. I've got an offer for 
trade on a five month old SDR-1000 that I'm seriously considering.

Any thoughts appreciated.

73,
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Re: [digitalradio] How much power do you run?

2006-06-30 Thread Kevin der Kinderen
Johnne:

The Argonaut should be fine for PSK31. I used the ArgoV for a little while.
For some of the other digital modes, more power might be nice to have on
hand.

I have a buddy that uses his Jupiter daily on PSK31. It looks great on the
waterfall from this end.

In my opinion, the Argo V and Jupiter are close to the same rig but the
extra power makes the Jupiter that much more versatile.

73,
Kevin - K4VD

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 modes.  I am interested in a new TenTec rig.  Is the 20 watt Argonaut
 516 adequate or would the Jupiter be a better choice?  The Orion is
 not in my 'blue-collar budget'.

 Anyone with TenTec digital experience around?

 Thanks!

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[digitalradio] I Should Know The Answer - Confused Myself

2006-06-21 Thread Kevin der Kinderen
Be kind... sometimes I make the simplest things complicated. There are two
questions here...

I was working on bands.ini for MixW using the US Amateur Bands sheet from
the ARRL. I have never noticed this before... are data (digital) modes not
permitted in the SSB sub bands?

For instance:
7000 - 7150 = CW, RTTY and data (I thought RTTY was data)
7150 - 7300 = CW, phone and image (no data modes allowed here?)

I had been told in the past that it is not permitted for U.S. hams to
transfer pictures using MFSK from 7000 - 7150 but it is permissable above
7150. So MFSK is data or image or ... ya, content based regulation has me
confused?

Again, be kind. I pigeon hole my operations into the generally accepted sub
bands and kind of lost track of what the regulations actually say or mean.

73,
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Re: [digitalradio] Re: Throb

2006-05-31 Thread Kevin der Kinderen



MultiPSK I think.

K4VD
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So that's what that was... what software is available for Throb?? I know MixW will do it, any others?? 73's
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Re: [digitalradio] Throb

2006-05-30 Thread Kevin der Kinderen



Thanks for joining in Jim. I've not used that mode in ages.

Right after we were done I hadanother QSO with Bill, N9DSJ. Then I heard KB9LNC in a THROB QSO with HK4QHD. I guess it's THROB night on 40.

73,
Kevin - K4VD
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Re: [digitalradio] Mono mic input?

2006-05-29 Thread Kevin der Kinderen



I run mono with no problems at all. I don't think you'll have problems. I'm not sure who always recommends stereo.

73,
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Re: [digitalradio] Dominoex soundcard problem

2006-05-21 Thread Kevin der Kinderen



Seli:

That seems to be an issue with the main DominoEX program. You cannot select sound cards. I had to move to MultiPSK so I could use my second card.

73,
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Re: [digitalradio] Longtime RFI problem solved

2006-05-16 Thread Kevin der Kinderen



Bill:

I don't have another power supply to swap with but I am using an Astron and have similar issues - though the problem does not exist when on the dummy load. I'll be real interested in the results you have troubleshooting the RS-35.


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Re: [digitalradio] Re: K3UK Telnet Address

2006-01-29 Thread Kevin der Kinderen
Andy:

More often than not, I do not connect to your cluster. In fact, very
rarely have I actually made it in. Human nature leads me to suspect it
can't be my fault but that generally is not the case. Maybe you can
give me a pointer.

I put Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org into my browser (either IE or
FireFox). A Command window opens up and says:

Connecting to cluster.dynalias.org...

It never shows anything else, but after a minute or less the Command
prompt just goes away.

I do an nslookup and come up with the following:

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\kderkindnslookup cluster.dynalias.org
Server:  dslrouter
Address:  192.168.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:cluster.dynalias.org
Address:  66.24.209.66


C:\Documents and Settings\kderkind

I try pinging 66.24.209.66 and get request timeouts.

I do a tracert to that address and I'm getting out to the Internet.
After many hops (17), I start timing out around at a router with the
end of the name nyroc.rr.com.

This scenario happens all the time to me. Am I broke or is the cluster
down a lot?

Kev - K4VD



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Re: [digitalradio] Best program?

2006-01-29 Thread Kevin der Kinderen
Howdy Graeme:

For all-around digital ops, I like MixW. It has a ton of modes to play
with and has a pretty nice interface. I believe MultiPSK also has a
bunch of modes and is free. I prefer MixW because the user interface
is a bit easier to navigate.

73,
Kev - K4VD


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Re: [digitalradio] Re: Bubba net?

2006-01-17 Thread Kevin der Kinderen
I believe the net is informal, it's more of a calling freq around
3582.5 where the group gathers to try out things or get questions
answered. Often times it starts as two in a QSO with others listening
in or joining as the topics change.

Kev - K4VD

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  Can someone send me the info on the Bubba Net?  I lost my info and
  want to send to a few local hams that have expressed an interest.
 


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Re: [digitalradio] Soundcard Calibration

2006-01-08 Thread Kevin der Kinderen
I would be VERY curious how the numbers come out if you set the sample
rate to 12000 instead of 11025. Not sure it will be better, worse or
any any more accurate.

As far as accuracy of calibration goes. I would trust WWV. I
understand that the sound checker program is based on an internal PC
clock which only has an accuracy of +/- 100 ppm. I think that Olivia's
requirements are fairly tight but SSTV even tighter.

If you give 12000 a try, please let me (us) know the results.

By the way, I use the MixW SSTV method against WWV for calibration on
receive. I usually set transmit to the same value assuming it is using
the same clocks. Not sure of this assumption.

Regards  73,
Kevin - K4VD

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 Yes, you guest it, right during the RTTY test I lost audio in, thought I
 had a bad cable or lose connection, but no, the dam sound card
 (Soundblaster 16bit) just stopped working.  So in the mean time I
 decided to drop back and use the on board sound card.  I then check the
 calibration against WWV tick using both MMTTY and MMvari and MixW SSTV
 calibration method.

 All three showed a +40 PPM at 11025hz.  No problem, but I also wanted to
 make sure that the transmit (Audio out) was also calibrated and
 downloaded the sound card calibration program off Yahoo and ran it at
 the 11025 sample rate.

 After a long time that program started to zero in on the in and out
 corrections, they were +15ppm on the in and -79ppm on the output.

 Using the 40 ppm corrections for two SSTV programs (MixW) and MMSSTV, I
 transmitted on one and received on the other and got a considerable
 slant, tried it both ways same slant conditions.,  I then inserted the
 -79 ppm in the transmitting and the slant almost disappeared but was
 still there, then I adjust the receive in to +20 PPM and the slant
 almost disappeared.

 Question:  Show I rely on the WWV tick correction +40ppm for most other
 programs?  or the +15ppm that the soundcard checker program returned
 based on the PC's internal clock or some compromised value?

 Should I rely on the OUT correction of -79ppm which up until this
 incident I had not set.  When running both SSTV programs that were
 consistent with a good display based on the checker program, when using
 the WWV values I had a slant on the receiving pics.

 I operate Olivia, Contestia, MFSK and some PSK RTTY.  I do not think
 that the PSK, RTTY adjustments are as critical but I am concerned how
 well Olivia and Contestia and Hell will work.

 Am I being overly concerned with such small (Less than 1HZ) adjustments?

 Probably by the time some of you read this I will have slipped in
 another SB soundcard and started the calibration process. all over
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Re: [digitalradio] Soundcard Calibration

2006-01-08 Thread Kevin der Kinderen
Thanks for the info Ron.

I am surprised there wasn't a noticeable difference when using WWV
also - but I'm not really surprised about the soundcard checker's
results. 12000 always seemed to work good for me.

Only way I know of to faithfully check the output would be with a
well-calibrated freq counter with enough resolution. I guess that's
something you don't find in too many ham shacks. But, in reading the
docs for MMVARI, there is a note in there that states:

2 - 12000Hz: Soundcard frequency that is unlikely to have TX offset.
Supported by some cards in the market.

Based on this, I've always set my in  out to the same. With PSK and
Olivia, I've not been told of any problems. I have not sent any SSTV -
that might be more sensitive.

From previous comments on this list, I think I understand that 0 ppm
+/- 100 ppm is sufficient for Olivia.

Thanks for posting your results. The looped SSTV test should be real
interesting.

73 and see you on the air.

Kevin - K4VD



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 Using WWV tick as the standard I get the same correction which is 40 ppm
 for either the 11025 or 12000, however, when using the soundcard checker
 based on the PC's time clock I get a change between 11025 and 12000.
 The change is from 15 PPM IN at 11025 to 4PPM IN at 12000 and the
 biggest change come in the OUT from -79ppm at 11025 to 8ppm when using
 12000.

 I am going to try a loop between two different SSTV programs, MixW and
 MMSSTV transmitting and receiving both and see what happens, let you
 know how close the soundcard checker is.  Yes I know that program is +/-
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RE: [digitalradio] Time-Sharing Our Ham Bands, Designing Digital Methods for Time-Sharing

2006-01-01 Thread Kevin der Kinderen












Rick KV9U
wrote
 I have
to say that with Bonnie's attitude it is no wonder 
 there
is so much contention. The practices that Bonnie are 

recommending are the exact opposite of proper amateur conduct 
 and
should not be supported by those of us who believe in 
 the
Amateur Code. 

Hi Rick,

Maybe you
are confusing my attitude with my observations of reality.
It is human
nature, and good amateur practice, for communicators to do
what they
can to get their message through QRM, QRN, or harsh conditions.





No, I
think Rick has it right. It's your attitude  and the attitude of the
opposition. Andy's decision to keep this thread going here is a mistake. But
that's just my observation of reality. Bonnie, Dave, etc I know this is
an important subject. It might even be worth its own Yahoo! group so that those
that want to take part can sign up. It will be interesting to see how things go
with a more specialized audience. Maybe someone can provide a weekly summary to
this group of your discussions. Weekly is about all I can take. Just take it
away somewhere else. Maybe you guys will actually come up with a good plan to
propose to somebody who can actually do something about it.

73 
Happy New Year  just not a year of this discussion please.

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RE: [digitalradio] Re: Digitalradio, forum for all digital operators to exchange ideas, cooperate?

2006-01-01 Thread Kevin der Kinderen
Hi Bonnie:

***
Description
 
This is a meeting place to discuss amateur radio digital applications such
as RTTY, CW, PSK31,PSK63, MFSK16, Olivia-MFSK, Contestia,RTTYM, Chip64,
THROB, ALE, PACTOR, AMTOR, HELL, SSTV and more. There are several reflectors
dedicated to these separate modes but this group focuses on ALL digital
modes. Software applications such as MixW, Logger32, MMVARI, MMTTY,
MultiPSK, Hamscope, Winwarbler, Digipan, etc, etc, are often discussed.
***

The above is the description from the home page of this group. I suppose if
you take the words and more and twist them, then this discussion fits in.

You say Digitalradio has become more than just an interactive software
guide.

I say it has become less.

The issues discussed here do not fall under the description above. I believe
your topic is important enough for a new group where all operators, not just
digital, are welcome.

Repeating a comment I made in an off-list reply... time to take it out of
committee and onto the house floor.

You (collective) have taken over the group and unfortunately Andy has
blessed it after some off-list prodding apparently. For that, I am sorry.

Kevin - K4VD




Hi Kevin,

As I understand it, the digitalradio group is where digital operators
can get together to talk about *all* methods of digital
communications, operating, and signals.

Sure, the digitalradio group is also a user support group, where you
can ask technical questions and find out things like: What baud rate
do I set my software for?

Digitalradio has become more than just an interactive software guide.
It is a place to share ideas and ways to improve digital
communications in ham radio. It is a forum for operators of various
digital methods to actually speak with each other about cooperation
and making things better. 

Right now, there is a lot going in the amateur community that greatly
affects the future of digital communications. IARU Region 1 just
implemented a new bandplan that affects digital. USA is changing its
FCC rules. New digital formats and techniques are being invented and
seen on the bands often. 

Like you, I recognize that some operators have rather extreme ways of
expressing their opinions. And yes, it is unfortunately true, some see
this forum as a place to complain, insult, soapbox, or publicly
ridicule other digital operations. I have learned to skip by messages
sent by certain authors who tend toward those habits. Anyone can
easily skip reading entire threads or subject lines. Some operators
simply skip by any subject like that is not How do I set my baud rate?. 

My point is, some parts of these discussions are very constructive
about new digital signals, digital bandwidths, and digital techniques
for sharing our ham bands. They are certainly within the spirit and
the stated purpose of the group.

There is room for us all here.

Bonnie KQ6XA

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RE: [digitalradio] Re: Why is Mix W so popular ?

2005-12-28 Thread Kevin der Kinderen
I am most impressed by the macros in MMVARI. It has conditional statements,
loops and menus. I'd love to see that in MixW. It would make a good program
even better.

To add to the list... if I understand the new architecture right, you will
be able to plug-in modes instead of waiting for new releases of MixW. If the
interface for the mode plug-in is published, and others use it for a
distribution platform, then I think this is a great advantage to MixW.

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 One thing I left out is ALL the Macro commands that Mixw has. 
 This allows one to automate most everything. Also Mixw has 
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[digitalradio] Sound Card Sample Rate - Olivia Pointing Out Something Interesting

2005-12-24 Thread Kevin der Kinderen










Hello all:



I've been experimenting [on | with] others lately. When I
get poor copy on them in Olivia the sample rate ususally shows up something
close to 1% or greater. Their copy of my sig is also pretty poor.



The experiment was to ask them to change their sample rate
of the sound card from 11025 to 12000. In each case, this brought the sample
rate error down to 0% (or close enough) and copy improved to 100% on both ends.



Last night there were four of us in a chat on Olivia 500/8.
I had 12000 Hz sample rate and the others were at 11025. One of the 11025ers
had poor copy both ways with all the others. The others looked good. I asked
him to try 12000 Hz and copy went to 100% all around. This was the first time I
think I proved to myself that I wasn't just matching his miscalibration to my
miscalibration as the other two 11025ers had great copy all around.



When I've done the sound card calibration (using both MixW
SSTV and MMVARI), it appears the correction for 12000 Hz is always less than
for 11025. It was something in the MMVARI documents I read and may have
misinterpreted that led me to experiment with this. Apparently at 12000 Hz, the
TX and RX sample rates are generally closer together.



Unfortunately, not being very scientifically minded, these
experiments were not controlled. I have no idea what sound cards were in use by
others. One was a laptop but I think the others were desktops. I'm using an old
SB16.



So the theory I'm proposing is that 12000 Hz sample rate for
some (many?) sound cards will generally provide better accuracy than 11025. Is
this too far a stretch? Can someone possibly shed some more light on the
subject? I'm not proposing calibration is unnecessary of course, just that it
might be easier at 12000 Hz than 11025.



73  Happy Holidays,

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RE: [digitalradio] Re: DOMONOEX

2005-12-19 Thread Kevin der Kinderen










I tried calling a while on 20 and had an
intermittent QSO with W3NF. Only about 70% copy and I think he had me even
worse.



I'm going to try some calls on 40 meters
and hope for stronger signals there. Speed is nice and that second channel can
be interesting.



73,

Kevin  K4VD

Shawsville, VA





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From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005
19:39
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] Re:
DOMONOEX





OK, have downloaded the software, help files. Anyone want to test
in
the defult
mode DominoEX 11? How about around 14.073 USB, best times
for me are
1800 UTC to 2300 UTC. Seems I only hear North American
stations at
my QTH.

Jerry
- K0HZI South St Paul,
 Minnesota, USA,
EN34lv



















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RE: [digitalradio] Re: DOMONOEX

2005-12-19 Thread Kevin der Kinderen










I'll be trying again on 80 when the sun
goes down. I got no answers on 40 meters.





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From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005
21:34
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] Re:
DOMONOEX





I was on MixW PSK31, seen what looked like MFSK up the band, tried to
decode the
signal, no go, then figured it must be DOMINOEX, by the
time I shut
down MixW and loaded DOMINOEX, everyone was gone or the
band changed
:-(

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RE: [digitalradio] Domino EX

2005-12-19 Thread Kevin der Kinderen










I was just watching a QSO between two
stations in Maryland.
Both were reporting 70 to 80% copy of each other but I had them 100%. The
strange thing was, they were both off from each other by about 500 Hz from each
other so I had to keep shifting the waterfall to keep up with them. 





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From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of F.R. Ashley
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005
01:40
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] Domino EX







Hi all,

















I have the program up and running and need to know where to
look for signals, or make a sked. A lot of digital on 80
meters at night, good thing! Glad to see 80 used more.

















73 





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[digitalradio] Sound Card Strangeness with Certain Rigs

2005-12-08 Thread Kevin der Kinderen










With my TS-830 and before with the FT-817 and 897 the sound
card acts normally.



With the PSK40 and the Argonaut, something strange is going
on. Let me try to explain



I set the capture volume level to minimum in the mixer. I
can see some static on the waterfall. Then I transmit. When I go back to
receive, the capture volume slider is in the same place, but the sensitivity
has somehow increased a lot. I nudge up the capture volume and back down to
zero and it is normal again until I transmit and go back to receive.



I have to do this every time and it's been going on for a
long time. It made the PSK40 troublesome to use and now the Argonaut is a pain.



Why is my soundcard (SB16) increasing in sensitivity when I
go back to receive? It's driving me nuts.



Latest drivers checked. Using the AUX port on the Argonaut.



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RE: [digitalradio] Propfire

2005-12-02 Thread Kevin der Kinderen










There is something in the FAQ for the new
Firebird about problems with loading plug-ins. I think the link is on their
main page. Something about doing it through the Firebird interface instead of
the web interface? Might want to try there.



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From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of k5gm
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005
23:15
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] Propfire





I am having problems installing this extension. I found it on the
Firefox
extensions list, and tried installing it, resulting in a
message
telling me I have installations denied or some such. Upon
clicking the
Edit Options tab presented, the only thing I found was
warn
when extension or add-on installations are attempted or
similar.
I unchecked that to no avail.

Can someone
please tell me where the referenced olption exists?

Thanks and
73
Pete K5GM














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RE: [digitalradio] No level LED on Rigblaster Pro

2005-11-30 Thread Kevin der Kinderen










My suggestion is to make sure the cables
are plugged into the right connectors on the soundcard. It always confuses me.
Use a pair of headphons to make sure you are really getting audio out right
from the soundcard.



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From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of obrienaj
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005
01:50
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] No
level LED on Rigblaster Pro





I'm trying to help a friend get his Icom 746 Pro , MixW, and 
Rigblaster
Pro to work together. So far we have got the 746 Pro to 
be read by
Mix and for the rig to be keyed when MixW is put in PSK 
transmit
mode. The PTT LED light on the Rigblaster comes on, but 
their is no
RF apparent. A support page at Rigblaster says...

You
should also see the RIGblaster level LED light indicating 
that you
have audio coming from the computer at an adequate level to 
feed your
radio via the RIGblaster.

The level
LED does not light . Rigblaster says 

If the
RIGblaster level light does not light un-mute and turn up 
your sound
card wave and master level controls

We have done
that and all levels are set correctly and un-muted. 
Still no
level led is lit. 

Does anyone
have any suggestion? I suspect the on-board soundcard 
is not
generating enough audio to drive the rigblaster/746 but my 
friend said
he had it working once before, so I wonder why it would 
not work
now. 


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[digitalradio] Re: Bandwidth-Based FCC Rules for USA

2005-11-26 Thread Kevin der Kinderen










Hello:



There are so many interests here that I
couldn't hope to understand all the different issues  but I thought I
might throw in a couple of comments to show my ignorance and maybe get put
straight (kindly please).




 QRM
 is a fact of life. When it is the cause of propagation changes, poor
 operating practice or other acts of Mother Nature (I'm defining human
 nature as a subset of that), then it's something we must learn to work
 with and no regulations are going to help with that.





 If
 a station is automated and cannot detect a QSO in progress, then it should
 be restricted to a sub band where the impact will be minimized.





 What
 is to stop someone from intentionally initiating a QSO where an automated
 station has been set up and thereby preventing the automated station from
 operating properly? Unfortunately, this doesn't seem so far fetched to me.
 Maybe a sub band that where automated stations are restricted to should
 only permit automated operations?





 The
 one thing that I see is strange about our current rules is that we are
 governed by content. It is currently illegal for me to use MFSK to
 transfer pictures (say down around 7073), yet it takes up the same
 bandwidth as MFSK transferring text. For me, this is what I see as the
 benefit of allocation by bandwidth. The removal of senseless restrictions.





 Gentlemen's
 agreements are basically ineffective. It requires everyone to be a lady or
 gentleman which is never the case. It only takes a one or two. New modes
 that come along generally invalidate old agreements when they try to find
 space to congregate.




I think this discussion would go a lot
further if we at first concentrate on and discuss our basic goals before trying
to hash out the merits of rules. At that point we may realize more easily why
we each support different proposals.



Not being a big contester or experimenter,
my goal is to get on the air and ragchew in the mode I choose. To do this
effectively, it helps to know where people using that mode congregate. I'm able
to do that with the current regulations. I just want to operate.



So the only changes that I see are needed
are:

1) don't restrict the content of my conversation

2) provide a safe haven for automated operations that provides them
protection from QRM while eliminating the QRM that they cause



What would happen if the only proposal in
front of the FCC was to remove restrictions on content, find a sub band for
automated operation and all else remain the same? For my purposes, this is a
proposal I could understand and support. 



73,

Kevin  K4VD





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RE: [digitalradio] K3UK cluster commands

2005-10-09 Thread Kevin der Kinderen










I never seem to be able to connect to this
site when I try it. The error I get is:



Connecting to 208.15.25.196Could
not open connection to the host, on port 23: Connection failed



Is this site really active? Been trying
about once a week for a few weeks now.



Kevin  K4VD





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From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Becker
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005
15:07
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] K3UK
cluster commands





here is the commands for the cluster...

telnet://208.15.25.196/



WinCluster
Commands Are:

T or TALK
user message - Send TALK message to user.
A or ANN
message - Send Local
announcement.
A/F or
ANN/FULL message - Send Full announcement.
DX
freq call comment - Send DX spot.
SH/U
or SHOW/USERS - List local users.
SH/CO
or SHOW/CONFIG - List cluster configuration.
SH/HE
call or SHOW/HEADING - List DXCC info for call.
SH/PR
call or SHOW/PREFIX - List DXCC info for call.
SH/WWV
or SHOW/WWV - List last five WWV spots.
SET/ANN
or SET/NOANN - Turn announcements ON or OFF.
SET/DX
or SET/NODX - Turn DX spots ON or OFF.
SET/HERE or
SET/H - Set your current
status to HERE.
SET/NAME
name
- Set your NAME.
SET/NOHERE
or SET/NOH - Set your current status to NOT HERE.
SH/DX/##
Band or Call or Prefix - List DX spots.

Where: ## = number of spots. 20 max TNC, 99 max TNet.

Default ## is 5. Band = 6,10,12,15,17,20,30,40,80,160

Prefix = KH2, JA, YV, etc. Call = KH2D, HM0DX, etc.

Examples: SH/DX - List last 5
spots.

SH/DX/10 - List last 10 spots.

SH/DX KH2 - List last 5 KH2 spots

SH/DX/10 KH2 - List last 10 KH2 spots

SH/DX/10 15 - List last 10 spots on 15 meters
SH/FDX/##
Band or Call or Prefix - List DX spots.
 Same
as SH/DX but spots in original format.
B or BYE -
Log off cluster.


If you have
any questions please feel free to ask Andy or myself.

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RE: [digitalradio] Chip64 and chip128

2005-09-18 Thread Kevin der Kinderen










I just downloaded the Chip65 software if
anyone wants to try around 7090 (I'm in Virginia).



I've noticed that the software crashes if
any window gets in front of the waterfall. I get resourse allocation and other
errors. I'll make a not of them next time.



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From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kurt
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005
19:58
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] Chip64 and
chip128





I see there are some qso's going on 7090, what other freq's are being 
used for now?
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RE: [digitalradio] K3UK cluster commands

2005-09-08 Thread Kevin der Kinderen










I have never been able to telnet to this
cluster. I keep getting the following:



telnet 208.15.25.196

Connecting To 208.15.25.196...Could not
open connection to the host, on port 23:

 Connect failed



Pings show request timed out.



Traceroute shows



Tracing route to 208-15-25-196.netsync.net
[208.15.25.196]

over a maximum of 30 hops:



  1 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms  dslrouter
[192.168.1.1]

  2    29 ms    29 ms    29 ms  10.30.1.1

  3    29 ms    29 ms    29 ms 
so-1-1-0-0.CORE-RTR2.ROA.verizon-gni.net [130.81

.11.37]

  4    55 ms    54 ms    55 ms 
so-2-3-0-0.BB-RTR2.RES.verizon-gni.net [130.81.1

8.94]

  5    55 ms    55 ms    55 ms 
130.81.10.94

  6    55 ms    55 ms    55 ms 
dcx-edge-02.inet.qwest.net [208.46.127.253]

  7    55 ms    55 ms    55 ms 
dcx-core-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.251.13]

  8 *    *    * Request
timed out.

  9    75 ms    76 ms    77 ms 
chi-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.205.33]

 10    76 ms    76 ms    75 ms 
chi-edge-08.inet.qwest.net [205.171.20.114]

 11   203 ms   280 ms   219 ms 
216.207.8.150

 12    87 ms    87 ms    87 ms 
sw4.netsync.net [206.231.8.18]

 13 *    *    * Request
timed out.

 14 *    *    * Request
timed out.

 15 *



I seem to be getting pretty far along the
path. I'm not having problems connecting to anything else I've tried.



Any assist?



73 de K4VD

Kevin







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From:
digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Becker
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005
15:07
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] K3UK
cluster commands





here is the commands for the cluster...

telnet://208.15.25.196/



WinCluster Commands Are:

T or TALK user message - Send TALK
message to user.
A or ANN
message - Send Local
announcement.
A/F or ANN/FULL message - Send Full
announcement.
DX freq call comment -
Send DX spot.
SH/U or
SHOW/USERS - List local users.
SH/CO or
SHOW/CONFIG - List cluster configuration.
SH/HE call or SHOW/HEADING -
List DXCC info for call.
SH/PR call or SHOW/PREFIX
- List DXCC info for call.
SH/WWV or
SHOW/WWV - List last five WWV spots.
SET/ANN or
SET/NOANN - Turn announcements ON or OFF.
SET/DX or
SET/NODX - Turn DX spots ON or OFF.
SET/HERE or
SET/H - Set your current
status to HERE.
SET/NAME
name
- Set your NAME.
SET/NOHERE or
SET/NOH - Set your current status to NOT HERE.
SH/DX/## Band or Call or Prefix - List DX
spots.
 Where: ## = number of spots. 20 max TNC, 99
max TNet.
 Default ## is 5. Band = 6,10,12,15,17,20,30,40,80,160
 Prefix = KH2, JA, YV, etc. Call = KH2D,
HM0DX, etc.
 Examples:
SH/DX - List last 5 spots.

SH/DX/10 - List last 10 spots.

SH/DX KH2 - List last 5 KH2 spots

SH/DX/10 KH2 - List last 10 KH2 spots

SH/DX/10 15 - List last 10 spots on 15 meters
SH/FDX/## Band or Call or Prefix - List DX
spots.
 Same as SH/DX but spots in original format.
B or BYE - Log off cluster.


If you have any questions please feel free to ask
Andy or myself.

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RE: [digitalradio] Re: Too much power and courteous notifiication - how/if

2005-06-24 Thread Kevin der Kinderen










I don't mean to display my ignorance 
too much anyway. But I'd like to ask a question or more.



Being a QRPer, I enjoy running low power. That
was one of the attractions of PSK. But I don't try to impress my way of
operating on others. Is there a technical reason for maintaining low power that
affects others (not just the power user)? I understand the need for keeping the
IMD low but I'm not sure exactly what the issue is with running higher power.
Tradition or technical?



I often make my calls or answer with about
15 to 20 watts as a matter of tradition. It's how I was told to run PSK by
other PSKers. But sometimes, especially in a conversation or when I hear
someone well and they can't seem to hear me, I'll push the power up a bit. Sure,
I can improve my antenna, and I do. But increasing power for a QSO seems to
make sense to me. I have never gone above 50 watts based on a 50% rule that I
keep to help protect my rig.



I do notice that sometimes there are
signals loud enough to block my receiver. They might either be running higher
power or be close to me. Either way, I've been able to switch in the 500 Hz
filter and shift the IF enough to help in most cases. I'm thinking of a 300 Hz
filter to help even more. I also play with the RF gain, IPO (Yaesu) and
Attenuator and can usually operate under about any conditions.



Is the issue that some people can't make
these adjustments or don't think they should have to?



I like operating as low a power as I can
to maintain contact comfortably. Conditions have been bad lately and it seems
to take a bit more sometimes. The earlier argument that compared the
encroachment of higher power signals on the band to his small town being
overrun by big developers is understandable I guess. But as a mode (and a town)
attract more and more people, things will get more crowded with people that
have different methods of doing things. Not sure that's progress, but it is
fact.



73 de KJ4QF

Kevin





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RE: [digitalradio] Re: Too much power and courteous notifiication - how/if

2005-06-24 Thread Kevin der Kinderen










Thanks for the response Jerry.



If it's tradition, then only those that
respect that tradition will follow it. Others will have something much
different to say about it. Someone just discovering PSK today may not have the
same feelings about its roots as someone that was there from the beginning.
That's too bad in a way because we lose some common ground when we neglect
tradition. What that leaves is differences in opinion  not much
different from the CW argument I think. You can't force someone into following
tradition if the rules allow 1 KW. They either want to or don't.



I'm not sure that need comes
into it. Some enjoy the thrill of the contact, others enjoy the thrill of the
contact at the lowest power possible. I get a kick out of a 500 mw CW QSO (when
I had the 817), but minutes later I could be in a 100 watt QSO having just as
much fun depending on the conversation.



My answer to the 200 watt question
because he can. He has the capability and it's probably within the rules. If he
knew he was interfering with you, would he decrease his power or suggest you
get a better receiver?



I didn't mean to suggest that my PSK ops
were QRP. I do CW QRP  only had one PSK QRP QSO, but I do have a PSK40 kit
on order (yeah!). I do follow rules I've placed on myself  to use the
least power I believe is necessary to maintain a comfortable QSO. If I get a
report that copy is 60% and I'm running 20 watts  I'll bring it up a bit
to see if that helps. When I hit 50, we're done. I don't see this as bumping
anyone that's using low power (or any power for that matter) as I really think
that properly adjusted, most modern receivers can be operated in environments
with strong signals. It took me a long time to work out the right combination
(did I mention I usually turn the AGC off for PSK in crowded bands?).



Based on this thread, I'll be more
conscious of my power and try to keep it to a reasonable level when the bands
are crowded.



I'll get off my soapbox too and see you on
air!



73 de KJ4QF

Kevin





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From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 8:58
PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Too
much power and courteous notifiication - how/if





Kevin,

I thought
PSK31 is supposed to be a QRP mode, so therefore
Tradition.
But who operates true QRP 5 watts? I guess that is what
most think
the power level should be for QRP? Have made contacts with
stations
using 5 watts or less, and the copy was very good. The band
conditions
have been less than good for quite a while, so does that
mean
everyone should run more power to compensate for poor conditons?

Does one
really need to have that QSO so bad they increase the
power and
bump others who are operating at lower power off the band?
Have tried
narrowing the filter, shifting of IF center to no avail on
those
stations who operate higher power. Operating at my station more
than 25
watts the RFI gets back into my computer and locks it up. I
have no
choice, as my antenna is indoors, can not put any antenna
outside, or
fear eviction. I am eight floors above the ground, no
balcony so
have to do the best I can do with 15 to 20 watts. So I
miss having a
few QSO's no big deal!

Again today
someone on twenty meters was using an Amp at 200 watts on
PSK31, why?

Again if
those who wish to get into power wars, go up on 20 meter
phone
segment and blast away.

Off my soap
box!

73,

Jerry
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[digitalradio] Dual Soundcard Audio Routing

2005-04-06 Thread Kevin der Kinderen










Soundcard 0 is set to default and used for music, computer
sounds, etc.

Soundcard 1 is used for digital modes only and is selected
by MixW.



Question: Is there any way monitor the radio's audio at
soundcard 1 with soundcard 0 so I can get it to the speakers? XP seems to treat
the two cards totally independently with no interaction between the two. Is
there some sort of software mixer I can use or a hidden feature I can't find?



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