Re: [digitalradio] City attempts to shut down ham radio .... !!

2009-07-11 Thread Cortland Richmond

Try a different link.
http://forums.qrz.com/showpost.php?p=1632618postcount=179

It referenceses something more useful than YouTube, too.

excerpt:
Any use permit for a ham radio antenna shall include a condition that
it shall be inspected annually to certify its safety and to verify that
liability
insurance is in effect and also that the ham radio equipment may be
inspected
without prior notice upon the receipt by the City of a complaint that the
radio
operation is causing interference with neighbors electronic devices due to
the
use of higher wattage than allowed by the FCC. The City shall provide this
inspection service at applicantÂ’s cost. Permittees shall pay an annual
inspection
fee adopted by Resolution of the City Council in an amount sufficient to
reimburse the City for an inspector qualified to inspect amateur radio
equipment.

What this has to do with digital modes, however, I can't say!


Cortland
KA5S



 [Original Message]
 From: Robert Ellis k5...@mac.com
 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Date: 7/10/2009 9:20:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [digitalradio] City attempts to shut down ham radio  !!


 k7fe reports in a qrz forum that the palmdale city council approved  
 the ordinance:
http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=209771






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Re: [digitalradio] City attempts to shut down ham radio .... !!

2009-07-11 Thread Cortland Richmond

Also see the court decision at
http://www.wrightwoodcalif.com/kw6ww/misc/Palmdale/ZubarauMinuteOrder.pdf


Cortland
KA5



Re: [digitalradio] City attempts to shut down ham radio .... !!

2009-07-11 Thread Skip Taylor
I can't find that link. I know there was to be an amassing of local
hams at their meeting last night. The city council was apparently
intending to 'brute force' this onto their agenda and bury it.

I've not heard anything from anyone locally yet.  I'll pass it along
as soon as I can.

Their ordinance is not a joke, unfortunately it's real. The local
governments here feel they are above the law and are out to prove it
for some reason.  Another nearby city (Lancaster) has implemented a
$500 fine if you have weeds in your yard or haven't mowed it in a
while from what I've been told.

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 7:30 PM, David Struebelwb2...@optonline.net wrote:


 This link goes to invalid thread on qrz.com Any better information?

 Dave WB2FTX

 - Original Message -
 From: Robert Ellis
 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 9:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [digitalradio] City attempts to shut down ham radio  !!

 k7fe reports in a qrz forum that the palmdale city council approved
 the ordinance:
 http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=209771

 On Jul 10, 2009, at 7:27 PM, David Struebel wrote:



 Read the report.



 Dave WB2FTX
 - Original Message -
 From: Robert Ellis k5...@mac.com
 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 7:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [digitalradio] City attempts to shut down ham
 radio  !!

 
  here's a recent city proposal (jul-2009):
 
 
  http://www.cityofpalmdale.org/city_hall/Planning/2009-07/AMeeting/spl70978h.pdf
 

 
  robert


Re: [digitalradio] City attempts to shut down ham radio .... !!

2009-07-11 Thread mikea
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 06:36:57AM -0400, Cortland Richmond wrote:
 
 Also see the court decision at
 http://www.wrightwoodcalif.com/kw6ww/misc/Palmdale/ZubarauMinuteOrder.pdf

That's very encouraging; I'd love to see the five volumes of
administrative record. In fact, I'll host it on my website if some kind
soul will find it, scan it, and make the softcopy available to me.

I had expected that the judge in any appeal would view PRB-1 and any
state statute (section 65680.3 of the Government Code, in this instance)
as supporting the ham in the action, and this judge did exactly that,
which is good. He put the cherry on top, though, by declaring the City
Council decision to be an abuse of discretion and by noting that the
City's brief is based on local ordinances with only a passing reference
to the statute. That's a pretty good slap on the sensitive parts for the
Council and their attorney, who *REALLY* should have known better. 

Now, when's MixW going to get code to support RSID? Many's the time I've
found myself fishing for the right settings in Olivia or some other
digimode. 

-- 
Mike Andrews, W5EGO
mi...@mikea.ath.cx
Tired old sysadmin 


Re: [digitalradio] City attempts to shut down ham radio .... !!

2009-07-10 Thread Chris Robinson
 my take on the video was a couple middle aged hippies in an RV bitching
about the county wishing to regulate the antenna height, but never said
anything of real value other then a rant. The woman seemed to make a great
stoned parrot though!

 I too am not a fan of youtube so I dont allow it on my personal system as
it is blocked, but from the library I dont mind, I dont have to clean up the
cookies and other junk!

 Chris
 KF6NFW

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 7:47 AM, mikea mi...@mikea.ath.cx wrote:



 On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 05:58:25PM -0700, D.G. wrote:
 
  City attempts to shut down ham radio  !!
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d5B9UPw_10

 For us middle-aged fogeys who read news and mail using text-mode
 software, would you (or someone else) mind posting a summary?

 Thanks  73, de

 --
 Mike Andrews, W5EGO
 mi...@mikea.ath.cx mikea%40mikea.ath.cx
 Tired old sysadmin
  



Re: [digitalradio] City attempts to shut down ham radio .... !!

2009-07-10 Thread Robert Ellis

k7fe reports in a qrz forum that the palmdale city council approved  
the ordinance:
   http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=209771

On Jul 10, 2009, at 7:27 PM, David Struebel wrote:



 Read the report.



 Dave WB2FTX
 - Original Message -
 From: Robert Ellis k5...@mac.com
 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 7:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [digitalradio] City attempts to shut down ham  
 radio  !!

 
  here's a recent city proposal (jul-2009):
 
  http://www.cityofpalmdale.org/city_hall/Planning/2009-07/AMeeting/spl70978h.pdf
 

 
  robert
 



Re: [digitalradio] City attempts to shut down ham radio .... !!

2009-07-10 Thread David Struebel
This link goes to invalid thread on qrz.com Any better information?

Dave WB2FTX
  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert Ellis 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 9:14 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] City attempts to shut down ham radio  !!






  k7fe reports in a qrz forum that the palmdale city council approved 
  the ordinance:
  http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=209771

  On Jul 10, 2009, at 7:27 PM, David Struebel wrote:

  
  
   Read the report.
  

  
   Dave WB2FTX
   - Original Message -
   From: Robert Ellis k5...@mac.com
   To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 7:24 PM
   Subject: Re: [digitalradio] City attempts to shut down ham 
   radio  !!
  
   
here's a recent city proposal (jul-2009):
   

http://www.cityofpalmdale.org/city_hall/Planning/2009-07/AMeeting/spl70978h.pdf
   
  
   
robert
   
  


  


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[digitalradio] City attempts to shut down ham radio .... !!

2009-07-09 Thread D.G.

City attempts to shut down ham radio  !!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d5B9UPw_10


 

















  

Re: [digitalradio] City attempts to shut down ham radio .... !!

2009-07-09 Thread Raymond Lunsford
Is yhis a joke?K4YDIAl.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:58 PM, D.G. indianaj0...@yahoo.com wrote:




 City attempts to shut down ham radio  !!

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d5B9UPw_10




 



Re: [digitalradio] City attempts to shut down ham radio .... !!

2009-07-09 Thread Raymond Lunsford
Ciorrection not yhis but this:,k4ydi.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:58 PM, D.G. indianaj0...@yahoo.com wrote:




 City attempts to shut down ham radio  !!

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d5B9UPw_10