[digitalradio] Re: CQ DRCC...

2007-10-26 Thread jhaynesatalumni
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think that I have mentioned some of this before, but unless you
have a 
 club of some kind where interested hams join and buy in to a concept, 
 a numbering system may not be something that many will gravitate toward.

I'll second that.  If I copy a station calling CQ I'm likely to answer.
But if I copy a station calling CQ DRCC or CQ FH or something like that
I will assume it is a club or a contest and you only want to talk to
people who are participating and I will not answer.  And personally I'm
just not interested in taking a FH number or a DRCC number or whatever.



Re: [digitalradio] Re: CQ DRCC...

2007-10-25 Thread Andrew O'Brien
I don't think your messsage had to be approved, it may have been simply
that Yahoo some times delays the email
Andy.


On 10/25/07, va3jno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com,
 n6vl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Why can't the digitalradio reflector have a similar degree of
  activity discussing modes, bands, and where to collect numbers. I
  think this is what Andy hoped for. After he, issued the numbers, I
  haven't sent a single message about how to go about collecting
  numbers. Does this mean digital ops don't have the same enthusiasm as
  CW ops? I don't think so.
 

 Well, I posted a message titled CQ DRCC this morning saying I was on
 frequency  until  and looking for DRCC and FH numbers.
 Unfortunately, by the time the message was approved, the time had
 expired and I had gone to do work around the house. I guess I posted
 the message about the time that Andy was headed to work so he didn't
 see it in time to be of use.
 I have also in the past self-spotted on the W6RK data mode spots page
 and not had anyone come back to my CQs.
 Is there little interest in actually having QSOs in digital modes
 other than PSK, or am I simply not posting/spotting in the right
 places? Where would such activity be best?

 73, Jim VA3HJ

  




-- 
Andy K3UK
www.obriensweb.com
(QSL via N2RJ)


[digitalradio] Re: CQ DRCC...

2007-10-25 Thread Andrew O'Brien
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't think your messsage had to be approved, it may have been
simply
 that Yahoo some times delays the email
 Andy.
 
 


I was wrong...

Oct 25, 2007 7:58 pmva3jno  Post status changed by molou99 w0jab

Sorry, glad John found it and set things up for your future posts.

Andy.



Re: [digitalradio] Re: CQ DRCC...

2007-10-25 Thread Rick
I think that I have mentioned some of this before, but unless you have a 
club of some kind where interested hams join and buy in to a concept, 
a numbering system may not be something that many will gravitate toward.

In terms of digital operation, we digital operators are an extreme 
minority of the total of ham communications and unlike CW and SSB, we 
have many modes that can not talk to each other so realistically most 
hams who are starting out are going to use the easiest mode that is 
generally available on all soundcard multimode digital software and that 
is PSK31. It is also much narrower than most other digital modes so it 
fulfills its proper place as a spectrum efficient mode for keyboarding. 
This is especially true if you do not have difficult ionospheric 
conditions. Since so many hams tend to operate PSK31, it has a critical 
mass much of the time on the HF bands and there are specific narrow 
watering holes where PSK31 is found. This is even true on bands that you 
might think were closed to propagation, e.g., 28.120 MHz which has 
surprised me many times.

Since there are so many other S.C. digital modes, some of which are 
difficult to determine the mode, or with some of them, e.g., Olivia, you 
may know it is Olivia, but are not sure of the speed. (At least I am not 
always able to determine a given mode by sound and waterfall display.)

Many of the newer modes were interesting to try out and there would be a 
flurry of activity, but for basic keyboarding, which is what most 
digital operators do, PSK31 works well enough much of the time. 
Personally, I like MFSK16 as it is still moderately narrow and it was 
added to Ham Radio Deluxe/Digital Master 780 along with other modes. I 
also kind of like DEX (Domino EX), especially with FEC, but DEX 11 and 
FEC is not available on my version of DM780. Some of the digital modes 
are too slow for me,  30 -40 wpm, don't work into the noise all that 
well, and may not handle multipath all that well. etc.

What might work is to make a contact on PSK31 and then ask the station 
if they want to try some other modes.  I would much rather be on almost 
any mode other than PSK 31. Of course you would usually want to move up 
a kHz or two depending upon activity. I often place my dial frequency a 
kHz or two above the point that most PSK31 operators would select and 
then put my center frequency at 1500 Hz since that is optimized for my 
rig.  Although I listen a lot more than I call CQ, I have been able to 
find operators with non PSK31 modes, by calling CQ in the mode of my 
choice. It may help to use the FAX ID in the waterfall. Have you tried that?

73,

Rick, KV9U



va3jno wrote:

 Well, I posted a message titled CQ DRCC this morning saying I was on
 frequency  until  and looking for DRCC and FH numbers.
 Unfortunately, by the time the message was approved, the time had
 expired and I had gone to do work around the house. I guess I posted
 the message about the time that Andy was headed to work so he didn't
 see it in time to be of use.
 I have also in the past self-spotted on the W6RK data mode spots page
 and not had anyone come back to my CQs.
 Is there little interest in actually having QSOs in digital modes
 other than PSK, or am I simply not posting/spotting in the right
 places? Where would such activity be best?

 73, Jim  VA3HJ