[digitalradio] Re: Remote control
Rick, This is exactly what I do. Difficulty varies from completely trivial to impossible depending on how comfortable with computers you are :-) Hardware and installation requirements: 1. CAT interface for your Icom. I use a Rigtalk. 2. Computer near your Icom. Any 1GHz Windows machine will do. The computer must be attached to your home LAN, of course. Put it on a fixed IP address so it never changes. For most home wireless routers this means give it an address in the .10 to .99 range. 3. Computer-sound interface for your Icom. I use a Signalink USB but for just listening you can get as low-tech as putting the PC microphone next to the Icom speaker. The number of commercial products and homebrew plans for hardware interfacing can be bewildering. If this is true for you I recommend starting very simple, i.e. Rigtalk and PC microphone (receive only) and then building from there. Control software and installation requirements: 1. Open the HRD documentation on your laptop and keep it handy. Follow the excellent directions therein for each step. 5 minutes. 2. Install HRD on the PC next to the Icom. Get it running locally with the CAT interface and radio. Should take all of 5 minutes. Use CAT PTT. 3. Within HRD install the HRD server service on the PC. Another 5 or 10 minutes. 4. Install HRD on your laptop. Configure it to attach to your HRD server on the radio PC. Again use CAT PTT. 5 more minutes. Once step 4 is done you are thinking Man, this is really cool! and can't wait to remote the sound. This is a bit more difficult because the documentation and stability of the sound software is not as good as HRD. 5. Install either IPSound (http://xoomer.virgilio.it/ham-radio-manuals/) or Skype on both computers and get it running in both places. I used IPSound because it is very lightweight but it is very poorly documented. Get sound moving between the PCs. You may have to do a little trial and error hacking here, especially with sound levels. That is the nice thing about something like a Signalink or a Rigblaster: just put all the PC volume controls at max. then set the level with the interface once at the radio and be done with it. I put IPSound in the startup folder on the radio server for convenience. 6. Start enjoying listening. Since the sound is moving to/from your laptop just install any digital mode software on the laptop and use it there. Once you get that far report back and we can chat about other subtleties such as calibration in a remotely operated setup. Keep us posted on your progress. With the radios you have I bet you have everything you need in your shack already :-) K*B*l*0*0*Q --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rick W mrf...@... wrote: Years ago, I used to have a very light and small SW receiver (but of rather low quality) that I had next to my bed and I could listen to SW or ham communications. Today my equipment is much heavier and bigger and the lightest I could come up with is to borrow one of my wife's ICOM IC-7000 rigs. Is there a simple way to interface one of my ICOM rigs (756 Pro II and III or 746 Pro) in such a way to at least tune the rig and listen to audio using my home wireless router system? Of course it would be cool to do more, such as talk on a mike or send digital data, but the main thing would be to at least control the volume and tuning and hear the audio. 73, Rick, KV9U
[digitalradio] Re: Remote Access Desktop, and remote digital operation
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Dave AA6YQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have in the past used LogMeIn and Skype to remotely control my home station while running RTTY, PSK, and CW. ...snip... I have also had some success with the Logmein/Skype approach using MixW. Now LogMein are advertising a new PRO version with integrated sound (not free though) Has any tried this? 73, Chris ZL1BOE
[digitalradio] Re: Remote Access Desktop, and remote digital operation
Hi Patrick, It is interesting that no completely integrated HF rig remote cntrol solution seems to exist as yet. Maybe the just-announceed LogMein Pro remote PC control software (with intergated audio) is one possibility. If one thinks about remote control from another point of view the only connections between the Ham PC and the radio is two-way audio (half duplex) and the serial path for CAT/CIV. The latter can be as slow as 1200 bp/s if need be. If these two could be multiplexed together then the path from PC to remote radio is one serial stream - potentially well under 9600 bp/s. And the link and could be as simple as dial-up modems, packet or via IP with something like the Lantronix XPORT - an Ethernet-serial converter so small it is built into an RJ45 socket. The Xport component can even provide simple web server access (skilled programmer needed)! A solution of this kind requires no PC at all at the radio end. And although we might laugh today at the idea of dial-up modems it provides zero latency and excellent security (probably the hackers today are too young to know or care about dial-up). Of course with modems we would not want to try and remote control from France to Canada but the typical application is from city apartment to a nearby rural radio site - every hams dream I think. It is said that soon every household gadget will have built in network access so why not the next generation of ham rigs? 73, Chris ZL1BOE --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Lindecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello John, The remote control through TCP/IP exists in Multipsk. I and Cesco (HB9TLK) have permitted to control a remote transceiver thanks to a TCP/IP link through which it is transported the sound (as Skipe) and the commands (RX/TX). For this, click on the button Mdem. Click on Help (RX/TX operations through signals exchanged with a TCP/IP server) for more details. You must start, on the remote transceiver side, either Gui_serv_Multipsk (HB9TLK) or Multidem (F6CTE). It is not as complete as what is presented by K7AGE (because it is limited to digital modes and you can't change the XCVR frequency), but it permits at least to make digital QSOs through the remote transceiver. For example it might be possible to send CQ DE F6CTE/VE5MU F6CTE/VE5MU +K if F6CTE controls the transceiver of VE5MU (in fact it is theoritical as it is strictly forbidden in France). Afterwards, F6CTE will be able to QSO with another Ham. However there is a random latency time (up to several seconds) due to Internet which remind you that you are not in direct... 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: John Bradley To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 6:21 PM Subject: [multipsk] Remote Access Desktop, and remote digital operation I have been fooling around with Windows XP remote access desktop, and found that I can readily access a desktop on any computer , wired or wireless, connected to my router. Further, I found that if I was signed in on the ham computer , and MultiPSK or MixW was running already, I could change modes etc and actually do a digital QSO from a remote computer. I also had the Kenwood rig control software running, so could change frequencies, power, etc etc . Since Digital doesn't need any audio feed to the remote, or microphone feed, it really lends itself to remote operations. Trying this from the internet though did not permit accessing the computer.. according to XP documentation it's possible but didn't work for me. It looks like we need a Virtual Private Network (VPN) to do this? Possible applications include remote control of a Station located in an EOC, and enabling folks like Patrick To access a station in North America to try the software personally. I'm not sure of the US laws, but know that Patrick could run a station here remotely, signing himself F6CTE/VE5 , since there is a reciprocal agreement between Canada and France Any bright ideas on how we can do this ? John VE5MU
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Remote Access Desktop, and remote digital operation
Hello Chris, RR for all. from city apartment to a nearby rural radio site - every hams dream I think zero latency Yes it would be nice. But for this, you would need a TCP/IP (or AX25) transmission through air, with a VHF or UHF link to control your HF rig. All with radio, the ideal... For information, the protocol followed for the TCP/IP control is in my WEB site (http://f6cte.free.fr) under Specifications - Multidem_TCP_IP_Version_1.doc. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: zl1boe2002 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 8:16 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Remote Access Desktop, and remote digital operation Hi Patrick, It is interesting that no completely integrated HF rig remote cntrol solution seems to exist as yet. Maybe the just-announceed LogMein Pro remote PC control software (with intergated audio) is one possibility. If one thinks about remote control from another point of view the only connections between the Ham PC and the radio is two-way audio (half duplex) and the serial path for CAT/CIV. The latter can be as slow as 1200 bp/s if need be. If these two could be multiplexed together then the path from PC to remote radio is one serial stream - potentially well under 9600 bp/s. And the link and could be as simple as dial-up modems, packet or via IP with something like the Lantronix XPORT - an Ethernet-serial converter so small it is built into an RJ45 socket. The Xport component can even provide simple web server access (skilled programmer needed)! A solution of this kind requires no PC at all at the radio end. And although we might laugh today at the idea of dial-up modems it provides zero latency and excellent security (probably the hackers today are too young to know or care about dial-up). Of course with modems we would not want to try and remote control from France to Canada but the typical application is from city apartment to a nearby rural radio site - every hams dream I think. It is said that soon every household gadget will have built in network access so why not the next generation of ham rigs? 73, Chris ZL1BOE --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Lindecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello John, The remote control through TCP/IP exists in Multipsk. I and Cesco (HB9TLK) have permitted to control a remote transceiver thanks to a TCP/IP link through which it is transported the sound (as Skipe) and the commands (RX/TX). For this, click on the button Mdem. Click on Help (RX/TX operations through signals exchanged with a TCP/IP server) for more details. You must start, on the remote transceiver side, either Gui_serv_Multipsk (HB9TLK) or Multidem (F6CTE). It is not as complete as what is presented by K7AGE (because it is limited to digital modes and you can't change the XCVR frequency), but it permits at least to make digital QSOs through the remote transceiver. For example it might be possible to send CQ DE F6CTE/VE5MU F6CTE/VE5MU +K if F6CTE controls the transceiver of VE5MU (in fact it is theoritical as it is strictly forbidden in France). Afterwards, F6CTE will be able to QSO with another Ham. However there is a random latency time (up to several seconds) due to Internet which remind you that you are not in direct... 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: John Bradley To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 6:21 PM Subject: [multipsk] Remote Access Desktop, and remote digital operation I have been fooling around with Windows XP remote access desktop, and found that I can readily access a desktop on any computer , wired or wireless, connected to my router. Further, I found that if I was signed in on the ham computer , and MultiPSK or MixW was running already, I could change modes etc and actually do a digital QSO from a remote computer. I also had the Kenwood rig control software running, so could change frequencies, power, etc etc . Since Digital doesn't need any audio feed to the remote, or microphone feed, it really lends itself to remote operations. Trying this from the internet though did not permit accessing the computer.. according to XP documentation it's possible but didn't work for me. It looks like we need a Virtual Private Network (VPN) to do this? Possible applications include remote control of a Station located in an EOC, and enabling folks like Patrick To access a station in North America to try the software personally. I'm not sure of the US laws, but know that Patrick could run a station here remotely, signing himself F6CTE/VE5 , since there is a reciprocal agreement between Canada and France Any bright ideas on how
[digitalradio] Re: Remote
--- I want the audio to copy cw. I can control the remote computer and the rig, but I want the audio to copy cw in my head. It worked fine without the audio in the ANARTS rtty contest this weekend...Mike K9HCK In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike why do you need the audio? It would seen to me that if you can control the computer from a remote site you don't need audio. I can control both rig and computer remotely... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get to your groups with one click. Know instantly when new email arrives http://us.click.yahoo.com/.7bhrC/MGxNAA/yQLSAA/ELTolB/TM ~- Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Remote
I use Windows Media Encoder on the radio end, and Windows Media Player on the remote end. Google it, I don't remember how I got it or how to set it up. It worked as recently as Monday, however. I talked to a guy on some digital modethe other day that said he uses Skype for SSB remote 2-way. Maybe that works. On 6/13/06, mac2251 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---I want the audio to copy cw. I can control the remote computerand the rig, but I want the audio to copy cw in my head. It workedfine without the audio in the ANARTS rtty contest this weekend...MikeK9HCK In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike why do you need the audio? It would seen to me that if you can control the computer from a remote site you don't need audio. I can control both rig and computer remotely... -- 73, Craig Cook - N7OR in Sandy, OR __._,_.___ Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) SPONSORED LINKS Ham radio Craft hobby Hobby and craft supply YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "digitalradio" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Remote
Well gee, a CD tape or CW program will work just as well with out all that pain At 02:32 PM 6/13/2006, you wrote: --- I want the audio to copy cw. I can control the remote computer and the rig, but I want the audio to copy cw in my head. It worked fine without the audio in the ANARTS rtty contest this weekend...Mike K9HCK Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get to your groups with one click. Know instantly when new email arrives http://us.click.yahoo.com/.7bhrC/MGxNAA/yQLSAA/ELTolB/TM ~- Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[digitalradio] Re: Remote
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/message/15100 Mike, If you have audio going thru your soundcard, you'll need to use an VoIP client/server like Skype, Gizmo or TeamSpeak. Google any of those and I think'll you find what you need. 73... Jon W1MNK Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy technology. It's free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/97bhrC/LGxNAA/yQLSAA/ELTolB/TM ~- Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Re: [Remote access software to help hams?
I run multiple computers inside my network, and I just map the internal address to the external VNC port so I can control any of my machines from the outside world. On Tue, 23 May 2006 17:01:34 -0700, Leigh L Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, configure the router to forward ports 5800 and 5900 to your PC. You can use a browser and a Java applet at http://yourdsladdress.example.co.:5800 though you will get better performance with a VNC client. Some people put them on USB memory cards...they don't have to be installed, just run. Tightvnc, realvnc, ultravnc, all will work with each other. Leigh/WA5ZNU On Tue, 23 May 2006 4:22 pm, Andrew O'Brien wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes REAL VNC ( http://www.realvnc.com/ ) works nice. I douwnloaded REAN VNC and installed it. I don't see a help files. Couple of basic questions. When it resides in my system tray and I place my mouse on it, it shows the IP address of my router. If I am accessing it from outside of my home, via the Internet, would I need to use the real dynamically assigned IP address? Would I need to configure port forwarding? and when accessing remotely do I need the remote PC to be running Real VNC or can one execute a command via a browser? Andy. -- John Smokey Behr Gleichweit FF1/EMT, CCNA, MCSE IPN-CAL023 N6FOG UP Fresno Sub MP183.5 ECV1852 List Owner x6, Moderator x4 CA-OES 51-507 http://smokeybehr.blogspot.com Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) SPONSORED LINKS Ham radio Craft hobby Hobby and craft supply YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "digitalradio" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [digitalradio] Re: [Remote access software to help hams?
Yes, configure the router to forward ports 5800 and 5900 to your PC. You can use a browser and a Java applet at http://yourdsladdress.example.co.:5800 though you will get better performance with a VNC client. Some people put them on USB memory cards...they don't have to be installed, just run. Tightvnc, realvnc, ultravnc, all will work with each other. Leigh/WA5ZNU On Tue, 23 May 2006 4:22 pm, Andrew O'Brien wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes REAL VNC ( http://www.realvnc.com/ ) works nice. I douwnloaded REAN VNC and installed it. I don't see a help files. Couple of basic questions. When it resides in my system tray and I place my mouse on it, it shows the IP address of my router. If I am accessing it from outside of my home, via the Internet, would I need to use the real dynamically assigned IP address? Would I need to configure port forwarding? and when accessing remotely do I need the remote PC to be running Real VNC or can one execute a command via a browser? Andy. Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) SPONSORED LINKS Ham radio Craft hobby Hobby and craft supply YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "digitalradio" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[digitalradio] Re: [Remote access software to help hams?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/message/14985 Hi Andy, Yes, you will need to use your ISP assigned [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, whatever PC you intend to access, you must run VNC server (be sure to set up a password). On the other PC, you'll need to run VNC client. All the information is at http://realvnc.com/faq.html 73... Jon W1MNK If both PCs are running WinXP, give Remote Desktop a try. Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) SPONSORED LINKS Ham radio Craft hobby Hobby and craft supply YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "digitalradio" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [digitalradio] Re: [Remote access software to help hams?
Thanks to all, I get it now. Seems fairly simple, will test from my office tomorrow. Andy K3UK On 5/23/06, Jon Maguire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/message/14985 Hi Andy, Yes, you will need to use your ISP assigned [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, whatever PC you intend to access, you must run VNC server (be sure to set up a password). On the other PC, you'll need to run VNC client. All the information is at http://realvnc.com/faq.html 73... Jon W1MNK If both PCs are running WinXP, give Remote Desktop a try. Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links -- Andy K3UK Fredonia, New York. Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73 Also available via Echolink Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) SPONSORED LINKS Ham radio Craft hobby Hobby and craft supply YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "digitalradio" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[digitalradio] Re: Remote access software to help hams?
At 08:13 PM 5/23/2006, you wrote: Thanks to all, I get it now. Seems fairly simple, will test from my office tomorrow. Andy K3UK Andy, Keep my login and password if you would like to test from the office. John, W0JAB Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) SPONSORED LINKS Ham radio Craft hobby Hobby and craft supply YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "digitalradio" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Remote access software to help hams?
OK, will do. On 5/23/06, John Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:13 PM 5/23/2006, you wrote: Thanks to all, I get it now. Seems fairly simple, will test from my office tomorrow. Andy K3UK Andy, Keep my login and password if you would like to test from the office. John, W0JAB Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links -- Andy K3UK Fredonia, New York. Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73 Also available via Echolink Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) SPONSORED LINKS Ham radio Craft hobby Hobby and craft supply YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "digitalradio" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
