Re: [digitalradio] Re: VHF digital setup
My personal favorite for home VHF/UHF Packet is Flex32 with the excellent PAXON terminal. There are step-by-step tutorials for both of these programs at USPacket.Org, featuring a screen shots for each step involved in installation and setup. These tutorials are very popular, I had to purchase additional bandwidth for USPacket after publishing them. Flex32: - This tutorial also includes an introduction to soundcard interfaces, and how they work. Several Packet modes are supported, plus IPX and Q15x25 mode: http://www.uspacket.org/flex32/flx_32.htm Paxon: - A great Packet terminal with sophisticated features for transferring files, and direct support through the Flex32 kernal: http://www.uspacket.org/paxon/paxon.htm For HF Packet, MixW is the best choice by far. Other software does this too, but thier interfaces all suck. ( Comparatively speaking ) If you are going to operate HF Packet, then unfortunately you must also learn how to deal with harmful interference from WinLink robots and thier 'customers'... MixW is good for this problem, as you can set up a second Rx window that receives PACTOR I on the same frequency you are QSOing on, in Packet mode. - This gives you the WinLid customer's callsign, and the call of the WinLid server they are ceaselessly polling on top of your QSO, while the server on another frequency. If he comes back to the customer and wipes out everything on the passband, then you know which server was being polled, right? At WinLink-Watch ( http://www.arwatch.com/watch/w_winlink.htm ) we have found a good screen-capture utility that makes it easy to capture evidence of WinLid QSO-crashing activity. ( http://www.uspacket.org/pqrm.htm ) MixW also has a record last 20 seconds of audio feature which is also useful in this respect. For more info on this, stop by at WinLink-Watch. Nobody has to stand by and just enjoy radio rape by mindless QRM factories on HF. For a Packet BBS, once again MixW is far and away the best choice for an HF Packet TNC. See the paragraph above, about dealing with interference issues. How can you use MixW as a TNC? - In Packet mode, MixW has an option to be set up as a Packet modem with a KISS TNC interface so it can be utilized by any Packet BBS software that is out there. My HF Packet BBS looks like this. ( It runs on BPQ32, not visible in the screenshot ) BPQ32, WinFBB alpha, MixW, and a PK-96 for VHF access. http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/arwatch/N5PVL/?action=viewcurrent=newsetup-1.jpg Note that this is a large image on PhotoBucket, If you zoom it up to full size, all the text is clear and easy to read. This is what a modern Packet BBS station looks like. 73 DE Charles, N5PVL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[digitalradio] Re: VHF digital setup
I tend to agree with Charles in regard to a packet-only setup; Flex32/Paxon is pretty slick. MultiPSK in packet mode is more than just a terminal program; it needs no external driver and does APRS, digipeats and mail (and probably more). It is abit of a learning curve after using a more conventional TNC but it does work well. Glad there are people still interested in packet - it shares frequencies well and is an intermeshed network not an outdated star topography dependent network. 73 Bill N9DSJ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Charles Brabham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My personal favorite for home VHF/UHF Packet is Flex32 with the excellent PAXON terminal. There are step-by-step tutorials for both of these programs at USPacket.Org, featuring a screen shots for each step involved in installation and setup. These tutorials are very popular, I had to purchase additional bandwidth for USPacket after publishing them. Flex32: - This tutorial also includes an introduction to soundcard interfaces, and how they work. Several Packet modes are supported, plus IPX and Q15x25 mode: http://www.uspacket.org/flex32/flx_32.htm Paxon: - A great Packet terminal with sophisticated features for transferring files, and direct support through the Flex32 kernal: http://www.uspacket.org/paxon/paxon.htm For HF Packet, MixW is the best choice by far. Other software does this too, but thier interfaces all suck. ( Comparatively speaking ) If you are going to operate HF Packet, then unfortunately you must also learn how to deal with harmful interference from WinLink robots and thier 'customers'... MixW is good for this problem, as you can set up a second Rx window that receives PACTOR I on the same frequency you are QSOing on, in Packet mode. - This gives you the WinLid customer's callsign, and the call of the WinLid server they are ceaselessly polling on top of your QSO, while the server on another frequency. If he comes back to the customer and wipes out everything on the passband, then you know which server was being polled, right? At WinLink-Watch ( http://www.arwatch.com/watch/w_winlink.htm ) we have found a good screen-capture utility that makes it easy to capture evidence of WinLid QSO-crashing activity. ( http://www.uspacket.org/pqrm.htm ) MixW also has a record last 20 seconds of audio feature which is also useful in this respect. For more info on this, stop by at WinLink-Watch. Nobody has to stand by and just enjoy radio rape by mindless QRM factories on HF. For a Packet BBS, once again MixW is far and away the best choice for an HF Packet TNC. See the paragraph above, about dealing with interference issues. How can you use MixW as a TNC? - In Packet mode, MixW has an option to be set up as a Packet modem with a KISS TNC interface so it can be utilized by any Packet BBS software that is out there. My HF Packet BBS looks like this. ( It runs on BPQ32, not visible in the screenshot ) BPQ32, WinFBB alpha, MixW, and a PK-96 for VHF access. http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/arwatch/N5PVL/?action=viewcurrent=newsetup-1.jpg Note that this is a large image on PhotoBucket, If you zoom it up to full size, all the text is clear and easy to read. This is what a modern Packet BBS station looks like. 73 DE Charles, N5PVL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [digitalradio] Re: VHF digital setup
Take a look at the new pskmail_puppy live CD, now featuring full PSK250 support. It is a progam suite including fldigi, flarq, pskmail server and client, with embedded linux. http://sharon.esrac.ele.tue.nl/pub/linux/ham/pskmail/puppy Now also as application running under windows: http://sharon.esrac.ele.tue.nl/pub/linux/ham/pskmail/windows You need pskmail version 0.5.4 to enjoy PSK250 arq. Rein PA0R -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Gesendet: 08.11.07 04:49:18 An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Betreff: [digitalradio] Re: VHF digital setup Thanks for the tip Andy,seems like the hardest part is just getting the physical connection to the Icom established.The FL-Digi sounds good,did some reading on W1HKJ's website,but will have to get a Linux PC up and running to take full advantage of that software I believe. Time for bed in the Northeast,will check back tommorow 73 Neil AE1P --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -I find Multipsk for packet with a soundcard much easier than AGW. For PSK Winwarbler, DM780, MUltipsk and others will work well, for PSK250 though you may need FL-DIGI or MixW. I'm not sure about the hook-up for your radio but I agree, the data jack is better than the MIC jack, usually. Andy K3UK -- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, kb1kox ngoodl1@ wrote: GE all, I hope this is the best place to post this,trying to get some info on setting up sound card digital packet with my Icom 910.I have done a google on this,but haven't run across any info that is of much help. I have an old aea pk-96 I could easily hook up,but want to be able to do more than just packet,something along the lines of psk-250 for local digital with others in the area that are getting a bit more serious with digi-modes. I have a buxcomm Rascal that is left over from a hf rig,but it has the 13 pin end for a kenwood.What I am uncertain of is the hookup to the 910,the manual doesn't say much other than for packet setup.Should I hook up to the {Data} socket or the ACC(1) socket or just hook up to the Mic connector?,the latter being the least preferable,as I don't really want to keep swapping cables to work a net.And If I use the DATA socket,is there a way to hook up BOTH the Main Sub band?Do I need to make a special Y cable? I am hoping that a member of the group has done this,or has read some info on this sort of setup. Any and all help will be greatly appreciated. 73 from NH Neil AE1P P.S. Should I use AGW Packet Engine,or Flex32,or is there a better software app for doing VHF Digi ? -- http://pa0r.blogspirit.com Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/drsked/drsked.php Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Re: VHF digital setup
I have tried MultiPSK on packet and it is interesting, works well but is only a terminal. I once comented that converting MultiPSK into a full fledged packet mailbox was too much, considering all the other things it does well. I have not tried, but maybe with TCP/IP it could be done...using MultiPSK as a Layer 1 (modem) with a true mailbox, maybe, JNOS, even when I would prefer something like Thunder or Linpac under Linux. For HF, having a visible waterfall is a plus that PK-232's did not enjoy. Having MultiPSK available for such acrobatics would be something like a swiss knife with an extra feature connector. 73, Jose, CO2JA PS: Maybe packet is dead, but I still love it. I never got addicted with APRS. And I mean packet as BBS's used it, because I have also used Pactor for that, and is much more robust than the old phone modems that someone in an almost forgotten day patched to the AX.25 protocol. There is nothing more permanent than provisional solutions Andrew O'Brien escribió: -I find Multipsk for packet with a soundcard much easier than AGW. For PSK Winwarbler, DM780, MUltipsk and others will work well, for PSK250 though you may need FL-DIGI or MixW. I'm not sure about the hook-up for your radio but I agree, the data jack is better than the MIC jack, usually. Andy K3UK __ Participe en Universidad 2008. 11 al 15 de febrero del 2008. Palacio de las Convenciones, Ciudad de la Habana, Cuba http://www.universidad2008.cu
[digitalradio] Re: VHF digital setup
Thanks for the tip Andy,seems like the hardest part is just getting the physical connection to the Icom established.The FL-Digi sounds good,did some reading on W1HKJ's website,but will have to get a Linux PC up and running to take full advantage of that software I believe. Time for bed in the Northeast,will check back tommorow 73 Neil AE1P --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -I find Multipsk for packet with a soundcard much easier than AGW. For PSK Winwarbler, DM780, MUltipsk and others will work well, for PSK250 though you may need FL-DIGI or MixW. I'm not sure about the hook-up for your radio but I agree, the data jack is better than the MIC jack, usually. Andy K3UK -- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, kb1kox ngoodl1@ wrote: GE all, I hope this is the best place to post this,trying to get some info on setting up sound card digital packet with my Icom 910.I have done a google on this,but haven't run across any info that is of much help. I have an old aea pk-96 I could easily hook up,but want to be able to do more than just packet,something along the lines of psk-250 for local digital with others in the area that are getting a bit more serious with digi-modes. I have a buxcomm Rascal that is left over from a hf rig,but it has the 13 pin end for a kenwood.What I am uncertain of is the hookup to the 910,the manual doesn't say much other than for packet setup.Should I hook up to the {Data} socket or the ACC(1) socket or just hook up to the Mic connector?,the latter being the least preferable,as I don't really want to keep swapping cables to work a net.And If I use the DATA socket,is there a way to hook up BOTH the Main Sub band?Do I need to make a special Y cable? I am hoping that a member of the group has done this,or has read some info on this sort of setup. Any and all help will be greatly appreciated. 73 from NH Neil AE1P P.S. Should I use AGW Packet Engine,or Flex32,or is there a better software app for doing VHF Digi ?
[digitalradio] Re: VHF digital setup
-I find Multipsk for packet with a soundcard much easier than AGW. For PSK Winwarbler, DM780, MUltipsk and others will work well, for PSK250 though you may need FL-DIGI or MixW. I'm not sure about the hook-up for your radio but I agree, the data jack is better than the MIC jack, usually. Andy K3UK -- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, kb1kox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GE all, I hope this is the best place to post this,trying to get some info on setting up sound card digital packet with my Icom 910.I have done a google on this,but haven't run across any info that is of much help. I have an old aea pk-96 I could easily hook up,but want to be able to do more than just packet,something along the lines of psk-250 for local digital with others in the area that are getting a bit more serious with digi-modes. I have a buxcomm Rascal that is left over from a hf rig,but it has the 13 pin end for a kenwood.What I am uncertain of is the hookup to the 910,the manual doesn't say much other than for packet setup.Should I hook up to the {Data} socket or the ACC(1) socket or just hook up to the Mic connector?,the latter being the least preferable,as I don't really want to keep swapping cables to work a net.And If I use the DATA socket,is there a way to hook up BOTH the Main Sub band?Do I need to make a special Y cable? I am hoping that a member of the group has done this,or has read some info on this sort of setup. Any and all help will be greatly appreciated. 73 from NH Neil AE1P P.S. Should I use AGW Packet Engine,or Flex32,or is there a better software app for doing VHF Digi ?