Re: [digitalradio] Re: VHF digital setup

2007-11-09 Thread Charles Brabham
My personal favorite for home VHF/UHF Packet is Flex32 with the excellent 
PAXON terminal.

There are step-by-step tutorials for both of these programs at USPacket.Org, 
featuring a screen shots for each step involved in installation and setup. 
These tutorials are very popular, I had to purchase additional bandwidth for 
USPacket after publishing them.

Flex32: - This tutorial also includes an introduction to soundcard 
interfaces, and how they work. Several Packet modes are supported, plus IPX 
and Q15x25 mode:
http://www.uspacket.org/flex32/flx_32.htm

Paxon: - A great Packet terminal with sophisticated features for 
transferring files, and direct support through the Flex32 kernal:
http://www.uspacket.org/paxon/paxon.htm


For HF Packet, MixW is the best choice by far. Other software does this too, 
but thier interfaces all suck. (  Comparatively speaking  )

If you are going to operate HF Packet, then unfortunately you must also 
learn how to deal with harmful interference from WinLink robots and thier 
'customers'... MixW is good for this problem, as you can set up a second Rx 
window that receives PACTOR I on the same frequency you are QSOing on, in 
Packet mode. - This gives you the WinLid customer's callsign, and the call 
of the WinLid server they are ceaselessly polling on top of your QSO, while 
the server on another frequency. If he comes back to the customer and wipes 
out everything on the passband, then you know which server was being polled, 
right?

At WinLink-Watch  (  http://www.arwatch.com/watch/w_winlink.htm  )  we have 
found a good screen-capture utility that makes it easy to capture evidence 
of WinLid QSO-crashing activity. (  http://www.uspacket.org/pqrm.htm  ) 
MixW also has a record last 20 seconds of audio feature which is also 
useful in this respect. For more info on this, stop by at WinLink-Watch.

Nobody has to stand by and just enjoy radio rape by mindless QRM factories 
on HF.

For a Packet BBS, once again MixW is far and away the best choice for an HF 
Packet TNC. See the paragraph above, about dealing with interference issues.

How can you use MixW as a TNC? - In Packet mode, MixW has an option to be 
set up as a Packet modem with a KISS TNC interface so it can be utilized by 
any Packet BBS software that is out there.

My HF Packet BBS looks like this. ( It runs on BPQ32, not visible in the 
screenshot )  BPQ32, WinFBB alpha, MixW, and a PK-96 for VHF access.

http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/arwatch/N5PVL/?action=viewcurrent=newsetup-1.jpg

Note that this is a large image on PhotoBucket, If you zoom it up to full 
size, all the text is clear and easy to read. This is what a modern Packet 
BBS station looks like.

73 DE Charles, N5PVL

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[digitalradio] Re: VHF digital setup

2007-11-09 Thread Bill McLaughlin
I tend to agree with Charles in regard to a packet-only setup;
Flex32/Paxon is pretty slick. 

MultiPSK in packet mode is more than just a terminal program; it needs
no external driver and does APRS, digipeats and mail (and probably
more). It is abit of a learning curve after using a more conventional
TNC but it does work well.

Glad there are people still interested in packet - it shares
frequencies well and is an intermeshed network not an outdated star
topography dependent network.


73

Bill N9DSJ

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Charles Brabham [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 My personal favorite for home VHF/UHF Packet is Flex32 with the
excellent 
 PAXON terminal.
 
 There are step-by-step tutorials for both of these programs at
USPacket.Org, 
 featuring a screen shots for each step involved in installation and
setup. 
 These tutorials are very popular, I had to purchase additional
bandwidth for 
 USPacket after publishing them.
 
 Flex32: - This tutorial also includes an introduction to soundcard 
 interfaces, and how they work. Several Packet modes are supported,
plus IPX 
 and Q15x25 mode:
 http://www.uspacket.org/flex32/flx_32.htm
 
 Paxon: - A great Packet terminal with sophisticated features for 
 transferring files, and direct support through the Flex32 kernal:
 http://www.uspacket.org/paxon/paxon.htm
 
 
 For HF Packet, MixW is the best choice by far. Other software does
this too, 
 but thier interfaces all suck. (  Comparatively speaking  )
 
 If you are going to operate HF Packet, then unfortunately you must also 
 learn how to deal with harmful interference from WinLink robots and
thier 
 'customers'... MixW is good for this problem, as you can set up a
second Rx 
 window that receives PACTOR I on the same frequency you are QSOing
on, in 
 Packet mode. - This gives you the WinLid customer's callsign, and
the call 
 of the WinLid server they are ceaselessly polling on top of your
QSO, while 
 the server on another frequency. If he comes back to the customer
and wipes 
 out everything on the passband, then you know which server was being
polled, 
 right?
 
 At WinLink-Watch  (  http://www.arwatch.com/watch/w_winlink.htm  ) 
we have 
 found a good screen-capture utility that makes it easy to capture
evidence 
 of WinLid QSO-crashing activity. (  http://www.uspacket.org/pqrm.htm  ) 
 MixW also has a record last 20 seconds of audio feature which is also 
 useful in this respect. For more info on this, stop by at WinLink-Watch.
 
 Nobody has to stand by and just enjoy radio rape by mindless QRM
factories 
 on HF.
 
 For a Packet BBS, once again MixW is far and away the best choice
for an HF 
 Packet TNC. See the paragraph above, about dealing with interference
issues.
 
 How can you use MixW as a TNC? - In Packet mode, MixW has an option
to be 
 set up as a Packet modem with a KISS TNC interface so it can be
utilized by 
 any Packet BBS software that is out there.
 
 My HF Packet BBS looks like this. ( It runs on BPQ32, not visible in
the 
 screenshot )  BPQ32, WinFBB alpha, MixW, and a PK-96 for VHF access.
 

http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/arwatch/N5PVL/?action=viewcurrent=newsetup-1.jpg
 
 Note that this is a large image on PhotoBucket, If you zoom it up to
full 
 size, all the text is clear and easy to read. This is what a modern
Packet 
 BBS station looks like.
 
 73 DE Charles, N5PVL
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: [digitalradio] Re: VHF digital setup

2007-11-08 Thread Rein Couperus
Take a look at the new pskmail_puppy live CD, now featuring full PSK250 support.

It is a progam suite including fldigi, flarq, pskmail server and client, with 
embedded linux.
http://sharon.esrac.ele.tue.nl/pub/linux/ham/pskmail/puppy

Now also as application running under windows:
http://sharon.esrac.ele.tue.nl/pub/linux/ham/pskmail/windows

You need pskmail version 0.5.4 to enjoy PSK250 arq.

Rein PA0R

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Gesendet: 08.11.07 04:49:18
 An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Betreff: [digitalradio] Re: VHF digital setup


  
  
  
 
 Thanks for the tip Andy,seems like the hardest part is just getting
 the physical connection to the Icom established.The FL-Digi sounds
 good,did some reading on W1HKJ's website,but will have to get a Linux
 PC up and running to take full advantage of that software I believe.
 Time for bed in the Northeast,will check back tommorow
 73
 Neil
 AE1P
 
 --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  -I find Multipsk for packet with a soundcard much easier than AGW. 
  For PSK Winwarbler, DM780, MUltipsk and others will work well, for 
  PSK250 though you may need FL-DIGI or MixW.
  
  
  I'm not sure about the hook-up for your radio but I agree, the data
  jack is better than the MIC jack, usually.
  
  Andy K3UK
  
  
  -- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, kb1kox ngoodl1@ wrote:
  
   GE all,
   I hope this is the best place to post this,trying to get some info on
   setting up sound card digital  packet with my Icom 910.I have done a
   google on this,but haven't run across any info that is of much help.
   I have an old aea pk-96 I could easily hook up,but want to be able to
   do more than just packet,something along the lines of psk-250 for
   local digital with others in the area that are getting a bit more
   serious with digi-modes.
   I have a buxcomm Rascal that is left over from a hf rig,but it has the
   13 pin
   end for a kenwood.What I am uncertain of is the hookup to the 910,the
   manual doesn't say much other than for packet setup.Should I hook up
   to the {Data} socket or the ACC(1) socket or just hook up to the Mic
   connector?,the latter being the least preferable,as I don't really
   want to keep swapping cables to work a net.And If I use the DATA
   socket,is there a way to hook up BOTH the Main  Sub band?Do I need to
   make a special Y cable? 
   I am hoping that a member
   of the group has done this,or has read some info on this sort of
 setup.
   Any and all help will be greatly appreciated.
   73 from NH
   Neil
   AE1P
   P.S. Should I use AGW Packet Engine,or Flex32,or is there a better
   software app for doing VHF Digi ?
  
 
 
   
  
 

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Re: [digitalradio] Re: VHF digital setup

2007-11-08 Thread Jose Amador

I have tried MultiPSK on packet and it is interesting, works well  but 
is only a terminal.

I once comented that converting MultiPSK into a full fledged packet 
mailbox was too much,
considering all the other things it does well.

I have not tried, but maybe with TCP/IP it could be done...using MultiPSK as
a Layer 1 (modem) with a true mailbox,  maybe, JNOS, even when I would 
prefer something
like Thunder or Linpac under Linux.

For HF, having a visible waterfall is a plus that PK-232's did not enjoy.

Having MultiPSK available for such acrobatics would be something like a
swiss knife with an extra feature connector.

73,

Jose,  CO2JA

PS: Maybe packet is dead, but I still love it. I never got addicted with 
APRS.
And I mean packet as BBS's used it, because I have also used Pactor for 
that,
and is much more robust than the old phone modems that someone in an almost
forgotten day patched to the AX.25 protocol. There is nothing more 
permanent
than provisional solutions


Andrew O'Brien escribió:

  -I find Multipsk for packet with a soundcard much easier  than AGW.
  For PSK Winwarbler, DM780, MUltipsk and others will work well, for
  PSK250 though you may need FL-DIGI or MixW.


  I'm not sure about the hook-up for your radio but I agree, the data
  jack is better than the MIC jack, usually.

  Andy K3UK


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[digitalradio] Re: VHF digital setup

2007-11-07 Thread kb1kox
Thanks for the tip Andy,seems like the hardest part is just getting
the physical connection to the Icom established.The FL-Digi sounds
good,did some reading on W1HKJ's website,but will have to get a Linux
PC up and running to take full advantage of that software I believe.
Time for bed in the Northeast,will check back tommorow
73
Neil
AE1P

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -I find Multipsk for packet with a soundcard much easier  than AGW. 
 For PSK Winwarbler, DM780, MUltipsk and others will work well, for 
 PSK250 though you may need FL-DIGI or MixW.
 
 
 I'm not sure about the hook-up for your radio but I agree, the data
 jack is better than the MIC jack, usually.
 
 Andy K3UK
 
 
 -- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, kb1kox ngoodl1@ wrote:
 
  GE all,
  I hope this is the best place to post this,trying to get some info on
  setting up sound card digital  packet with my Icom 910.I have done a
  google on this,but haven't run across any info that is of much help.
  I have an old aea pk-96 I could easily hook up,but want to be able to
  do more than just packet,something along the lines of psk-250 for
  local digital with others in the area that are getting a bit more
  serious with digi-modes.
  I have a buxcomm Rascal that is left over from a hf rig,but it has the
  13 pin
  end for a kenwood.What I am uncertain of is the hookup to the 910,the
  manual doesn't say much other than for packet setup.Should I hook up
  to the {Data} socket or the ACC(1) socket or just hook up to the Mic
  connector?,the latter being the least preferable,as I don't really
  want to keep swapping cables to work a net.And If I use the DATA
  socket,is there a way to hook up BOTH the Main  Sub band?Do I need to
  make a special Y cable? 
  I am hoping that a member
  of the group has done this,or has read some info on this sort of
setup.
  Any and all help will be greatly appreciated.
  73 from NH
  Neil
  AE1P
  P.S. Should I use AGW Packet Engine,or Flex32,or is there a better
  software app for doing VHF Digi ?
 





[digitalradio] Re: VHF digital setup

2007-11-07 Thread Andrew O'Brien
-I find Multipsk for packet with a soundcard much easier  than AGW. 
For PSK Winwarbler, DM780, MUltipsk and others will work well, for 
PSK250 though you may need FL-DIGI or MixW.


I'm not sure about the hook-up for your radio but I agree, the data
jack is better than the MIC jack, usually.

Andy K3UK


-- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, kb1kox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 GE all,
 I hope this is the best place to post this,trying to get some info on
 setting up sound card digital  packet with my Icom 910.I have done a
 google on this,but haven't run across any info that is of much help.
 I have an old aea pk-96 I could easily hook up,but want to be able to
 do more than just packet,something along the lines of psk-250 for
 local digital with others in the area that are getting a bit more
 serious with digi-modes.
 I have a buxcomm Rascal that is left over from a hf rig,but it has the
 13 pin
 end for a kenwood.What I am uncertain of is the hookup to the 910,the
 manual doesn't say much other than for packet setup.Should I hook up
 to the {Data} socket or the ACC(1) socket or just hook up to the Mic
 connector?,the latter being the least preferable,as I don't really
 want to keep swapping cables to work a net.And If I use the DATA
 socket,is there a way to hook up BOTH the Main  Sub band?Do I need to
 make a special Y cable? 
 I am hoping that a member
 of the group has done this,or has read some info on this sort of setup.
 Any and all help will be greatly appreciated.
 73 from NH
 Neil
 AE1P
 P.S. Should I use AGW Packet Engine,or Flex32,or is there a better
 software app for doing VHF Digi ?