Re: [digitalradio] 30M operations
Have had MFSK and PSK contacts a little lower, around 10.138 to keep away from the Pactor stations that operate above 10,140. 73, Jerry - K0HZI On 12/27/06, KV9U [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tried off an on for about a half hour on 10.142 but no one around, or at least anyone who can hear me. I then went down to the lower part of the band to see if any CW stations around and called CQ and immediately got a response from a VE7. We were both running QRP CW but the band did have severe QSB and I went QRO to 100 watts. Then I worked a WA2 from Florida and then got a call on 2 meters from another ham trying out a new rig he got for his wife when she gets her license. So it has been a busy time:) Right now I am back on 10140.5 +1500 = 10142 and called CQ on Olivia 8-500. I know that often by the time a person reads this, it could be hours later so they won't have time get to this frequency, even if we could work. 73, Rick, KV9U
Re: [digitalradio] 30M operations
Danny, Over the past few years I have been active on 30M digital and CW mostly in the evening hours from central Florida, I find the band open late into the evenings unless we get s soar storm or very low SFI. I have worked all over the world both CW and on digital. It is funny to hear a dead band until a DX cluster post puts some strange DX station on then the band comes to life, hundreds of stations. When it comes to digital I try to stay away from the 10.140 and up unless I hear a DX station, to many packet automatic stations. Have had several QSO's ended because of auto QRM. There is a station down around 10.132 (Commercial or military) that I use as a gauge as to band condx. I know the movement is to utilize 10.142 but thats right in the middle of those packy pests. Usually I hear stateside around 10.138 plus or minus, have worked Hell, PSK, MFSK, Olivia and RTTY. DX on PSK and RTTY up above 10.140 30 meters is a fun band where we are restricted to 200w and usually have to rely on a good antenna. Gee that takes me back to my earlier 1950's days when 100 watts was big power! I urge everyone to utilize a low activity band, hope to meet up with you soon. Ron W4LDE - Original Message - From: Danny Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 8:29 pm Subject: Re: [digitalradio] 30M operations To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Hear nothing on that freq here in Virginia at 8:27 EST. There is a carrieron 10.14252, but doesnt seem to have any signal on it. Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all DX 2-6 years each . QSL LOTW-buro- direct As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you use that - also pls upload to LOTW or hard card. moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk - Original Message - From: KV9U [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] 30M operations Tried off an on for about a half hour on 10.142 but no one around, or at least anyone who can hear me. I then went down to the lower part of the band to see if any CW stations around and called CQ and immediately got a response from a VE7. We were both running QRP CW but the band did have severe QSB and I went QRO to 100 watts. Then I worked a WA2 from Florida and then got a call on 2 meters from another ham trying out a new rig he got for his wife when she gets her license. So it has been a busy time:) Right now I am back on 10140.5 +1500 = 10142 and called CQ on Olivia 8-500. I know that often by the time a person reads this, it could be hours later so they won't have time get to this frequency, even if we could work. 73, Rick, KV9U Danny Douglas wrote: I have 1882 QSOs logged on 30 meters, and 253 countries and have found it an excellent DX Band. That is two more countries than I have on 17 meters,and just 2 less than on 40 meters. It exceeds my country count on 10/12 and of course 80/160 as well. Looking at the logs I have worked a lot of RTTY stations on the 10.035-10.040 portion of the band. Lower than that, has been mostly CW. I don't do much domestic activity on it, so can pretty much speak only of DX, though do hear stateside stations in the daylight hoursand a mixed bag at night. A glance thru the logs also indicates most of my DX activity has been from around 2000Z - 0400Z on the band. I have noticed,at times, during the evening hours, the band appears to be dead (no signals) but suspect a lot of that is simply because no one is trying to use it,rather than it being really out. Those commercial/military RTTY stations seem to get thru quite well, when no one else is transmitting as well. Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all DX 2-6 years each . QSL LOTW-buro- direct As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you use that - also pls upload to LOTW or hard card. DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Suggested Calling/Beaconing Frequencies: All frequencies are USB and assume a centre audio frequency of 1000Hz (e.g radio dial at 14.077.4 and 1000Hz on your waterfall = 14078.4) 20M: Primary : 14.078.4 Secondary: 14.076.4 30MPrimary: 10.142 Secondary 10.144 80MPrimary : 3583 Secondary: 3584.5 Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.28/604 - Release Date: 12/26/2006 12:23 PM DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Suggested Calling/Beaconing Frequencies: All frequencies are USB and assume a centre audio frequency of 1000Hz (e.g radio dial at 14.077.4 and 1000Hz on your waterfall = 14078.4) 20M: Primary : 14.078.4 Secondary: 14.076.4 30M
Re: [digitalradio] 30M operations
At 1442Z I was calling on Olivia 8-500 with RS ID TX and RX. I did not hear 7L4IOU, but did have Bernie, VE3FWF from Ottawa call me on 16-500 and then also heard K1PGV who I called after getting done with Bernie, but no luck on getting him to respond back to me. I then called some CQ's in 16-500 and 8-500 with my RS ID turned on, but no luck there either. I had a Pactor 3 station come up and wipe out the entire waterfall. This is one of the problems with using the 10140 to 10150 automatic area. You have to expect automatic stations that do not actually operate legally and will transmit on a busy frequency. And unless you copy their initial transmissions to connect via pactor 1, which is nearly impossible since you have to be tuned in on their frequency, you can not determine who the offending stations are. This really is becoming more and more unacceptable to me considering that excellent software has been developed that completely solves this problem and should be required to operate with good radio amateur practices on our frequencies. Then I heard K5LJ with a PSK31 signal down only a few 100 Hz from the edge of my Olivia signal and called him back but he did not return the call and he only called CQ a couple of times. May I suggest that you need to call many, many, many times on digital modes. I would recommend at least 10 different times in order for the other station to find you and switch to the right mode. I have had it happen a number of times where I might be tuning around and hear the station calling and by the time I get ready to send, that station has given up. With CW and voice it is much easier to respond quickly compared to digital modes since you know what mode to respond with and have instant ability to do so. Bernie wants to try PC-ALE, so I plan to download the latest version and see if I can then make it work with my CI-V control for my ICOM rig. I have not been able to do that with previous versions. 73, Rick, KV9U 7L4IOU wrote: Hi Rick and All I will QRV (with RSID) from 1300 to 1500z (ur sunrise) on 10,142kHz 73 CUL Hisami 7L4IOU
RE: [digitalradio] 30M operations
At 1442Z I was calling on Olivia 8-500 with RS ID TX and RX. I did not hear 7L4IOU, but did have Bernie, VE3FWF from Ottawa call me on 16-500 and then also heard K1PGV who I called after getting done with Bernie, but no luck on getting him to respond back to me. I saw you calling for a bit this morning, and I assumed you were trying for 7L4IOU, so I held off answering your CQ. I had done the same thing earlier, on the same frequency, hoping for 7L4IOU with no luck. Sigh! When I reply to your CQ, you came back to VE3FWF, mentioned to him that you were hoping for 74LIOU, so I QSY'ed off to 20M. de Peter K1PGV
Re: [digitalradio] 30M operations
Right now, at 1624z I am calling Olivia on 10.140 , 16x500 Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all DX 2-6 years each . QSL LOTW-buro- direct As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you use that - also pls upload to LOTW or hard card. moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk - Original Message - From: Peter G. Viscarola [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 11:10 AM Subject: RE: [digitalradio] 30M operations At 1442Z I was calling on Olivia 8-500 with RS ID TX and RX. I did not hear 7L4IOU, but did have Bernie, VE3FWF from Ottawa call me on 16-500 and then also heard K1PGV who I called after getting done with Bernie, but no luck on getting him to respond back to me. I saw you calling for a bit this morning, and I assumed you were trying for 7L4IOU, so I held off answering your CQ. I had done the same thing earlier, on the same frequency, hoping for 7L4IOU with no luck. Sigh! When I reply to your CQ, you came back to VE3FWF, mentioned to him that you were hoping for 74LIOU, so I QSY'ed off to 20M. de Peter K1PGV DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Suggested Calling/Beaconing Frequencies: All frequencies are USB and assume a centre audio frequency of 1000Hz (e.g radio dial at 14.077.4 and 1000Hz on your waterfall = 14078.4) 20M: Primary : 14.078.4 Secondary: 14.076.4 30MPrimary: 10.142 Secondary 10.144 80MPrimary : 3583 Secondary: 3584.5 Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.28/606 - Release Date: 12/28/2006 12:22 AM
Re: [digitalradio] 30M operations
Hi Rick and All I called CQ as SKD with intervals, we did not have propagation. Although someone was called around 14:00, but I could not copy. Anyway, if I am in the shack, I will tune to 10,142kHz and call CQ at intervals of few minutes. (I think that 40m is better for propagation. However, an intruder's interference is severe in JA.) Let's try together. 73 Hisami 7L4IOU At 1442Z I was calling on Olivia 8-500 with RS ID TX and RX. I did not hear 7L4IOU, but did have Bernie, VE3FWF from Ottawa call me on 16-500 and then also heard K1PGV who I called after getting done with Bernie, but no luck on getting him to respond back to me. I then called some CQ's in 16-500 and 8-500 with my RS ID turned on, but no luck there either. I had a Pactor 3 station come up and wipe out the entire waterfall. This is one of the problems with using the 10140 to 10150 automatic area. You have to expect automatic stations that do not actually operate legally and will transmit on a busy frequency. And unless you copy their initial transmissions to connect via pactor 1, which is nearly impossible since you have to be tuned in on their frequency, you can not determine who the offending stations are. This really is becoming more and more unacceptable to me considering that excellent software has been developed that completely solves this problem and should be required to operate with good radio amateur practices on our frequencies. Then I heard K5LJ with a PSK31 signal down only a few 100 Hz from the edge of my Olivia signal and called him back but he did not return the call and he only called CQ a couple of times. May I suggest that you need to call many, many, many times on digital modes. I would recommend at least 10 different times in order for the other station to find you and switch to the right mode. I have had it happen a number of times where I might be tuning around and hear the station calling and by the time I get ready to send, that station has given up. With CW and voice it is much easier to respond quickly compared to digital modes since you know what mode to respond with and have instant ability to do so. Bernie wants to try PC-ALE, so I plan to download the latest version and see if I can then make it work with my CI-V control for my ICOM rig. I have not been able to do that with previous versions. 73, Rick, KV9U 7L4IOU wrote: Hi Rick and All I will QRV (with RSID) from 1300 to 1500z (ur sunrise) on 10,142kHz 73 CUL Hisami 7L4IOU DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Suggested Calling/Beaconing Frequencies: All frequencies are USB and assume a centre audio frequency of 1000Hz (e.g radio dial at 14.077.4 and 1000Hz on your waterfall = 14078.4) 20M: Primary : 14.078.4 Secondary: 14.076.4 30MPrimary: 10.142 Secondary 10.144 80MPrimary : 3583 Secondary: 3584.5 Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [digitalradio] 30M operations
I have 1882 QSOs logged on 30 meters, and 253 countries and have found it an excellent DX Band. That is two more countries than I have on 17 meters, and just 2 less than on 40 meters. It exceeds my country count on 10/12 and of course 80/160 as well. Looking at the logs I have worked a lot of RTTY stations on the 10.035-10.040 portion of the band. Lower than that, has been mostly CW. I don't do much domestic activity on it, so can pretty much speak only of DX, though do hear stateside stations in the daylight hours and a mixed bag at night. A glance thru the logs also indicates most of my DX activity has been from around 2000Z - 0400Z on the band. I have noticed, at times, during the evening hours, the band appears to be dead (no signals) but suspect a lot of that is simply because no one is trying to use it, rather than it being really out. Those commercial/military RTTY stations seem to get thru quite well, when no one else is transmitting as well. Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all DX 2-6 years each . QSL LOTW-buro- direct As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you use that - also pls upload to LOTW or hard card. moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk - Original Message - From: Andrew O'Brien To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 6:39 PM Subject: [digitalradio] 30M operations Mel, A couple of weeks ago I monitored 30M (10150) via the APRS HF system, I did so for about two days. The band totally closed a couple of hours after sunset. During the day time it was 200-500 mile range. About 5 years ago, I did the same for a few weeks. 500 miles was about average during the daylight hours but up to 2000 miles was common at dusk/dawn. Of course, 300 baud packet is not as robust as other modes, so perhaps 30M would do better with Olivia or Pax2.. Andy K3UK On 12/27/06, Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, The posting by Paul K9PS was very interesting. I have a fascinated interest in 30 metres, primarily because it should be a very useful band for digital activity, and yet the band is always devoid of user. s. May I ask Paul if he could advise us when 30 metres is at its best because its a complete mystery to me ! I remember reading an RSGB article when the band was first given to us and its characteristics were suggested to be a cross between 20 and 40 metres. As we know both of these bands are always busy, but the one in the middle isn't ! Kind regards, Mel G0GQK -- Andy K3UK Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73 www.obriensweb.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.28/604 - Release Date: 12/26/2006 12:23 PM
Re: [digitalradio] 30M operations
Tried off an on for about a half hour on 10.142 but no one around, or at least anyone who can hear me. I then went down to the lower part of the band to see if any CW stations around and called CQ and immediately got a response from a VE7. We were both running QRP CW but the band did have severe QSB and I went QRO to 100 watts. Then I worked a WA2 from Florida and then got a call on 2 meters from another ham trying out a new rig he got for his wife when she gets her license. So it has been a busy time:) Right now I am back on 10140.5 +1500 = 10142 and called CQ on Olivia 8-500. I know that often by the time a person reads this, it could be hours later so they won't have time get to this frequency, even if we could work. 73, Rick, KV9U Danny Douglas wrote: I have 1882 QSOs logged on 30 meters, and 253 countries and have found it an excellent DX Band. That is two more countries than I have on 17 meters, and just 2 less than on 40 meters. It exceeds my country count on 10/12 and of course 80/160 as well. Looking at the logs I have worked a lot of RTTY stations on the 10.035-10.040 portion of the band. Lower than that, has been mostly CW. I don't do much domestic activity on it, so can pretty much speak only of DX, though do hear stateside stations in the daylight hours and a mixed bag at night. A glance thru the logs also indicates most of my DX activity has been from around 2000Z - 0400Z on the band. I have noticed, at times, during the evening hours, the band appears to be dead (no signals) but suspect a lot of that is simply because no one is trying to use it, rather than it being really out. Those commercial/military RTTY stations seem to get thru quite well, when no one else is transmitting as well. Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all DX 2-6 years each . QSL LOTW-buro- direct As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you use that - also pls upload to LOTW or hard card.
