RE: [digitalradio] Can I get a rig with MORE?
Ok..this is good but I never got an answer concerning what the exact URL was, just that it was available. I didn't associate Roger with Roger Rehr and W3SZ. I have looked at his applications and for all that may not have seen it, it looks pretty nice to me and the fact that it is open source makes it really nice since some of you who are code hackers can play around with the code. I don't remember the exact URLs for the dttsp-shell (available from Edson Pereira) or the java GUI done by John Melton or usSDR gui done by Jonathan Naylor. Would you be so kind as to pass them along to the group? I understand your and Frank's interest...and believe me that getting the basics going and letting folks finsih the GUI as they want...to customize it I believe where we would like to see all hams going. This is an admission that most of us do not nor will ever have a skill set such as you Frank, Roger, John, Jonathan, Rein,and others have...we can only catch on to your coat tails and do out best to hack you and other's code. And even at that, we will need you Elmering to bring us up to a level of confidence where we feel we can do somethings really worthwhile by ourselves. So I beg your indulgence if we ask some questions several times and if you would, try to point use as gently as possible in the right direction. I know personally that I really appreciate what you and others have done for Linux Ham Apps and I know that others also feel this way. 73, Walt/K5YFW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert McGwier Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 5:16 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Can I get a rig with MORE? Walt: Frank, Eric, and I have specfically answered all of your questions about the Linux support. It is completely controllable under Linux now especially for those who have no need for fancy radio GUI's. For those that need GUI's there ARE GUI's and more will be coming. Roger Rehr has painted the road with crayola crayon especially for you: http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz but the Linux code does not have the polished presentation of the Windows version of code AND IT DOES NOT SUFFER FROM ITS LIMITATIONS. It is poised to take off now. There are several approaches to take such as dttsp-shell (available from Edson Pereira) or the java GUI done by John Melton or usSDR gui done by Jonathan Naylor. Frank and I are not interested in doing this GUI work. We are interested in support anyone who wants to do the GUI work. Bob N4HY (coauthor DttSP with AB2KT) DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA wrote: Peter, IMHO, the SDR-1000 has some of the best specs. out and is the most configurable transceiver on the market. I have seen the insides of the transceiver several times and the construction looks good. But note that it is only controllable using MS NT (maybe), W2K, XP but I understand that there is a problem controlling it with Vista. According to Felx Radio there is third party software to control the SDR-1000 with Linux but I'll be darned if I can find anything that gives steps 1, 2, 3, to take, to download, compile the application or configure the radio. If a manufacturer claims that there is 3rd party software but can't tell you where it is, then I think they should not claim that there is such software and let it go at that. For that reason I am leery of buying hardware that makes such claims. I have seen demonstrations of the SDR-1000 and I have used the TS-1000/2000 series radios and the SDR-1000 is most impressive against the Yaesu radios. 73, Walt/K5YFW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter G. Viscarola Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 1:30 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Can I get a rig with MORE? I work digital modes (PSK, RTTY, MFSK, Olivia, etc) almost exclusively. I also have a pretty low noise environment, living out in the country and with my antenna (a dipole) almost 100' from the nearest RF noise source. Note that upgrading my antenna system is really not an option at this point for a whole lot of reasons. I presently have a TS-2000 and I like it a lot. I like the ability to use the IF DSP to narrow the passband from each side to isolate the signal I want. I've been pretty successful with it, too. Given my modest setup I'm rapidly closing-in on my first 100 for DXCC, after being on HF for only about 4 months. Could I gain some sensitivity/selectivity/better filtering by upgrading my rig? What rigs might folks suggest? How about the SDR-1000? Better? Worse? Something else? I'm relatively new to HF, so I'm looking for some elmering I suppose -- Is my rig doing as well as any? Or, is a significant step up possible? Again... I'm interested strictly in digital mode performance. And, again, while
RE: [digitalradio] Can I get a rig with MORE?
I discovered that http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz doesn't take you to the exact URL. I think the URL is: http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz/xlinrad-deb.htm or perhaps http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz/dttspw3sz.htm Walt/K5YFW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of kd5nwa Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 5:26 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Can I get a rig with MORE? I downloaded the code from the SVN a couple of days ago and I'm wondering what will the Radio core will do, I don't need a detailed explanation just some broad strokes. At 05:15 PM 2/15/2007, you wrote: Walt: Frank, Eric, and I have specfically answered all of your questions about the Linux support. It is completely controllable under Linux now especially for those who have no need for fancy radio GUI's. For those that need GUI's there ARE GUI's and more will be coming. Roger Rehr has painted the road with crayola crayon especially for you: http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz but the Linux code does not have the polished presentation of the Windows version of code AND IT DOES NOT SUFFER FROM ITS LIMITATIONS. It is poised to take off now. There are several approaches to take such as dttsp-shell (available from Edson Pereira) or the java GUI done by John Melton or usSDR gui done by Jonathan Naylor. Frank and I are not interested in doing this GUI work. We are interested in support anyone who wants to do the GUI work. Bob N4HY (coauthor DttSP with AB2KT) DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA wrote: Peter, IMHO, the SDR-1000 has some of the best specs. out and is the most configurable transceiver on the market. I have seen the insides of the transceiver several times and the construction looks good. But note that it is only controllable using MS NT (maybe), W2K, XP but I understand that there is a problem controlling it with Vista. According to Felx Radio there is third party software to control the SDR-1000 with Linux but I'll be darned if I can find anything that gives steps 1, 2, 3, to take, to download, compile the application or configure the radio. If a manufacturer claims that there is 3rd party software but can't tell you where it is, then I think they should not claim that there is such software and let it go at that. For that reason I am leery of buying hardware that makes such claims. I have seen demonstrations of the SDR-1000 and I have used the TS-1000/2000 series radios and the SDR-1000 is most impressive against the Yaesu radios. 73, Walt/K5YFW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter G. Viscarola Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 1:30 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Can I get a rig with MORE? I work digital modes (PSK, RTTY, MFSK, Olivia, etc) almost exclusively. I also have a pretty low noise environment, living out in the country and with my antenna (a dipole) almost 100' from the nearest RF noise source. Note that upgrading my antenna system is really not an option at this point for a whole lot of reasons. I presently have a TS-2000 and I like it a lot. I like the ability to use the IF DSP to narrow the passband from each side to isolate the signal I want. I've been pretty successful with it, too. Given my modest setup I'm rapidly closing-in on my first 100 for DXCC, after being on HF for only about 4 months. Could I gain some sensitivity/selectivity/better filtering by upgrading my rig? What rigs might folks suggest? How about the SDR-1000? Better? Worse? Something else? I'm relatively new to HF, so I'm looking for some elmering I suppose -- Is my rig doing as well as any? Or, is a significant step up possible? Again... I'm interested strictly in digital mode performance. And, again, while I'd *like* to put up a tower with a beam (and I *know* the old adage about 1 dollar spent on antennas is worth 100 spent in teh shack), that just can't happen (for any price I can pay) given my location. Thanks for your opinions, de Peter K1PGV __ Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Our other groups: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 Yahoo! Groups Links -- AMSAT Director and VP Engineering. Member: ARRL, AMSAT-DL, TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR WG Chair Taking fun as simply fun and earnestness in earnest shows how thoroughly thou none of the two discernest. - Piet Hine Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Our other groups: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup
Re: [digitalradio] Can I get a rig with MORE?
Walt: Frank, Eric, and I have specfically answered all of your questions about the Linux support. It is completely controllable under Linux now especially for those who have no need for fancy radio GUI's. For those that need GUI's there ARE GUI's and more will be coming. Roger Rehr has painted the road with crayola crayon especially for you: http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz but the Linux code does not have the polished presentation of the Windows version of code AND IT DOES NOT SUFFER FROM ITS LIMITATIONS. It is poised to take off now. There are several approaches to take such as dttsp-shell (available from Edson Pereira) or the java GUI done by John Melton or usSDR gui done by Jonathan Naylor. Frank and I are not interested in doing this GUI work. We are interested in support anyone who wants to do the GUI work. Bob N4HY (coauthor DttSP with AB2KT) DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA wrote: Peter, IMHO, the SDR-1000 has some of the best specs. out and is the most configurable transceiver on the market. I have seen the insides of the transceiver several times and the construction looks good. But note that it is only controllable using MS NT (maybe), W2K, XP but I understand that there is a problem controlling it with Vista. According to Felx Radio there is third party software to control the SDR-1000 with Linux but I'll be darned if I can find anything that gives steps 1, 2, 3, to take, to download, compile the application or configure the radio. If a manufacturer claims that there is 3rd party software but can't tell you where it is, then I think they should not claim that there is such software and let it go at that. For that reason I am leery of buying hardware that makes such claims. I have seen demonstrations of the SDR-1000 and I have used the TS-1000/2000 series radios and the SDR-1000 is most impressive against the Yaesu radios. 73, Walt/K5YFW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter G. Viscarola Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 1:30 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Can I get a rig with MORE? I work digital modes (PSK, RTTY, MFSK, Olivia, etc) almost exclusively. I also have a pretty low noise environment, living out in the country and with my antenna (a dipole) almost 100' from the nearest RF noise source. Note that upgrading my antenna system is really not an option at this point for a whole lot of reasons. I presently have a TS-2000 and I like it a lot. I like the ability to use the IF DSP to narrow the passband from each side to isolate the signal I want. I've been pretty successful with it, too. Given my modest setup I'm rapidly closing-in on my first 100 for DXCC, after being on HF for only about 4 months. Could I gain some sensitivity/selectivity/better filtering by upgrading my rig? What rigs might folks suggest? How about the SDR-1000? Better? Worse? Something else? I'm relatively new to HF, so I'm looking for some elmering I suppose -- Is my rig doing as well as any? Or, is a significant step up possible? Again... I'm interested strictly in digital mode performance. And, again, while I'd *like* to put up a tower with a beam (and I *know* the old adage about 1 dollar spent on antennas is worth 100 spent in teh shack), that just can't happen (for any price I can pay) given my location. Thanks for your opinions, de Peter K1PGV __ Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Our other groups: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 Yahoo! Groups Links -- AMSAT Director and VP Engineering. Member: ARRL, AMSAT-DL, TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR WG Chair Taking fun as simply fun and earnestness in earnest shows how thoroughly thou none of the two discernest. - Piet Hine
Re: [digitalradio] Can I get a rig with MORE?
I downloaded the code from the SVN a couple of days ago and I'm wondering what will the Radio core will do, I don't need a detailed explanation just some broad strokes. At 05:15 PM 2/15/2007, you wrote: Walt: Frank, Eric, and I have specfically answered all of your questions about the Linux support. It is completely controllable under Linux now especially for those who have no need for fancy radio GUI's. For those that need GUI's there ARE GUI's and more will be coming. Roger Rehr has painted the road with crayola crayon especially for you: http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz but the Linux code does not have the polished presentation of the Windows version of code AND IT DOES NOT SUFFER FROM ITS LIMITATIONS. It is poised to take off now. There are several approaches to take such as dttsp-shell (available from Edson Pereira) or the java GUI done by John Melton or usSDR gui done by Jonathan Naylor. Frank and I are not interested in doing this GUI work. We are interested in support anyone who wants to do the GUI work. Bob N4HY (coauthor DttSP with AB2KT) DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA wrote: Peter, IMHO, the SDR-1000 has some of the best specs. out and is the most configurable transceiver on the market. I have seen the insides of the transceiver several times and the construction looks good. But note that it is only controllable using MS NT (maybe), W2K, XP but I understand that there is a problem controlling it with Vista. According to Felx Radio there is third party software to control the SDR-1000 with Linux but I'll be darned if I can find anything that gives steps 1, 2, 3, to take, to download, compile the application or configure the radio. If a manufacturer claims that there is 3rd party software but can't tell you where it is, then I think they should not claim that there is such software and let it go at that. For that reason I am leery of buying hardware that makes such claims. I have seen demonstrations of the SDR-1000 and I have used the TS-1000/2000 series radios and the SDR-1000 is most impressive against the Yaesu radios. 73, Walt/K5YFW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter G. Viscarola Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 1:30 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Can I get a rig with MORE? I work digital modes (PSK, RTTY, MFSK, Olivia, etc) almost exclusively. I also have a pretty low noise environment, living out in the country and with my antenna (a dipole) almost 100' from the nearest RF noise source. Note that upgrading my antenna system is really not an option at this point for a whole lot of reasons. I presently have a TS-2000 and I like it a lot. I like the ability to use the IF DSP to narrow the passband from each side to isolate the signal I want. I've been pretty successful with it, too. Given my modest setup I'm rapidly closing-in on my first 100 for DXCC, after being on HF for only about 4 months. Could I gain some sensitivity/selectivity/better filtering by upgrading my rig? What rigs might folks suggest? How about the SDR-1000? Better? Worse? Something else? I'm relatively new to HF, so I'm looking for some elmering I suppose -- Is my rig doing as well as any? Or, is a significant step up possible? Again... I'm interested strictly in digital mode performance. And, again, while I'd *like* to put up a tower with a beam (and I *know* the old adage about 1 dollar spent on antennas is worth 100 spent in teh shack), that just can't happen (for any price I can pay) given my location. Thanks for your opinions, de Peter K1PGV __ Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Our other groups: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 Yahoo! Groups Links -- AMSAT Director and VP Engineering. Member: ARRL, AMSAT-DL, TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR WG Chair Taking fun as simply fun and earnestness in earnest shows how thoroughly thou none of the two discernest. - Piet Hine Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Our other groups: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 Yahoo! Groups Links Cecil KD5NWA www.qrpradio.com www.hpsdr.com Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscripti catapultas habebunt. (When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults!)
Re: [digitalradio] Can I get a rig with MORE?
Howdy: The board brush strokes are easy. I do not have enough patience, smarts, or time to do what Bob Cowdery has done in his fantastic erlang implementation. On the other hand it does not fit with my vision of this and so far, Frank agrees with what I have been saying so I am assuming it is substantially his vision as well. The idea is to have the erlang be the simplest possible thing, as few lines as possible to get the job done reliably, robustly, with remoting built in from the word go. Cnodes are big in your future. dttsp's sdr_core (as an example) will start up as a stand alone program and it will maintain its command structure. Now you use the simple cmdr script to send it commands. e_cmdr will be a C program that starts up and attaches itself to the TINY erlang server. After it establishes its presence, it will negotiate what it can provide and what it wants to receive. So long as it is around, the erlang based hub will send all commands of the registered type to it and respond to all data requests of the type registered from e_cmdr by making a request for this data from e_cmdr, etc. The state held in the erlang radiocore will be the absolute minimum needed. If the cnode disappears, the hub will time out on it and drop it and all of its sources and sinks from the list. You might think of the, erlang cnode as working the exact same way Frank did the code in update.c BUT the CTE array will be dynamic and supplied upon initial connection, etc. in the radiocore. It really will be TINY block of code and the smarts will be in the leaves. I have had Cnodes running robustly on all my machines of every type for months. I keep thinking that it is but a day's work to give everyone the e_cmdr as a template for how to make their connection to the hub and even to provide the simplest possible kind of GUI, something like Roger's little push button GUI but interfaced through its own Cnode interface to the hub as a template for how to proceed. Between having FOUR close relatives with life threatening conditions and being constantly on the road for work, I just have not gotten it done. I apologize to everyone. No one is more unhappy about this than me. I need an uninterrupted week at home. This week I am in Boston fighting the snow going to Cell processor class at Mercury and next week I am at VPI working on OFDM with GnuRadio folks for MY WORK. I will catch a breath soon. Bob kd5nwa wrote: I downloaded the code from the SVN a couple of days ago and I'm wondering what will the Radio core will do, I don't need a detailed explanation just some broad strokes. At 05:15 PM 2/15/2007, you wrote: Walt: Frank, Eric, and I have specfically answered all of your questions about the Linux support. It is completely controllable under Linux now especially for those who have no need for fancy radio GUI's. For those that need GUI's there ARE GUI's and more will be coming. Roger Rehr has painted the road with crayola crayon especially for you: http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz but the Linux code does not have the polished presentation of the Windows version of code AND IT DOES NOT SUFFER FROM ITS LIMITATIONS. It is poised to take off now. There are several approaches to take such as dttsp-shell (available from Edson Pereira) or the java GUI done by John Melton or usSDR gui done by Jonathan Naylor. Frank and I are not interested in doing this GUI work. We are interested in support anyone who wants to do the GUI work. Bob N4HY (coauthor DttSP with AB2KT) -- AMSAT Director and VP Engineering. Member: ARRL, AMSAT-DL, TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR WG Chair Taking fun as simply fun and earnestness in earnest shows how thoroughly thou none of the two discernest. - Piet Hine
RE: [digitalradio] Can I get a rig with MORE?
Peter, IMHO, the SDR-1000 has some of the best specs. out and is the most configurable transceiver on the market. I have seen the insides of the transceiver several times and the construction looks good. But note that it is only controllable using MS NT (maybe), W2K, XP but I understand that there is a problem controlling it with Vista. According to Felx Radio there is third party software to control the SDR-1000 with Linux but I'll be darned if I can find anything that gives steps 1, 2, 3, to take, to download, compile the application or configure the radio. If a manufacturer claims that there is 3rd party software but can't tell you where it is, then I think they should not claim that there is such software and let it go at that. For that reason I am leery of buying hardware that makes such claims. I have seen demonstrations of the SDR-1000 and I have used the TS-1000/2000 series radios and the SDR-1000 is most impressive against the Yaesu radios. 73, Walt/K5YFW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter G. Viscarola Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 1:30 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Can I get a rig with MORE? I work digital modes (PSK, RTTY, MFSK, Olivia, etc) almost exclusively. I also have a pretty low noise environment, living out in the country and with my antenna (a dipole) almost 100' from the nearest RF noise source. Note that upgrading my antenna system is really not an option at this point for a whole lot of reasons. I presently have a TS-2000 and I like it a lot. I like the ability to use the IF DSP to narrow the passband from each side to isolate the signal I want. I've been pretty successful with it, too. Given my modest setup I'm rapidly closing-in on my first 100 for DXCC, after being on HF for only about 4 months. Could I gain some sensitivity/selectivity/better filtering by upgrading my rig? What rigs might folks suggest? How about the SDR-1000? Better? Worse? Something else? I'm relatively new to HF, so I'm looking for some elmering I suppose -- Is my rig doing as well as any? Or, is a significant step up possible? Again... I'm interested strictly in digital mode performance. And, again, while I'd *like* to put up a tower with a beam (and I *know* the old adage about 1 dollar spent on antennas is worth 100 spent in teh shack), that just can't happen (for any price I can pay) given my location. Thanks for your opinions, de Peter K1PGV __
Re: [digitalradio] Can I get a rig with MORE?
Peter, I just bought the TS-2000 and my neighbor obtained an SDR-1000 recently. I think for purely cutting edge features, the SDR-1000 would be the rig that would give you more. I decided not to buy it because I would have likely needed a further investment of $1000 to upgrade to a professional sound card and a PC with enough RAM and CPU power. Software support for the SDR-1000 in digital modes is growing but there are still some that lack the full support you usually see for other rigs. In the SDR-1000 forum I saw a post that suggested that one should view the SDR-1000 as a work in progress, an evolving experiment. That was a year old post and I think it has evolved quite well in the past year. Andy K3UK On 2/12/07, DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, IMHO, the SDR-1000 has some of the best specs. out and is the most configurable transceiver on the market. I have seen the insides of the transceiver several times and the construction looks good. But note that it is only controllable using MS NT (maybe), W2K, XP but I understand that there is a problem controlling it with Vista. According to Felx Radio there is third party software to control the SDR-1000 with Linux but I'll be darned if I can find anything that gives steps 1, 2, 3, to take, to download, compile the application or configure the radio. If a manufacturer claims that there is 3rd party software but can't tell you where it is, then I think they should not claim that there is such software and let it go at that. For that reason I am leery of buying hardware that makes such claims. I have seen demonstrations of the SDR-1000 and I have used the TS-1000/2000 series radios and the SDR-1000 is most impressive against the Yaesu radios. 73, Walt/K5YFW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com[mailto: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Peter G. Viscarola Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 1:30 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Can I get a rig with MORE? I work digital modes (PSK, RTTY, MFSK, Olivia, etc) almost exclusively. I also have a pretty low noise environment, living out in the country and with my antenna (a dipole) almost 100' from the nearest RF noise source. Note that upgrading my antenna system is really not an option at this point for a whole lot of reasons. I presently have a TS-2000 and I like it a lot. I like the ability to use the IF DSP to narrow the passband from each side to isolate the signal I want. I've been pretty successful with it, too. Given my modest setup I'm rapidly closing-in on my first 100 for DXCC, after being on HF for only about 4 months. Could I gain some sensitivity/selectivity/better filtering by upgrading my rig? What rigs might folks suggest? How about the SDR-1000? Better? Worse? Something else? I'm relatively new to HF, so I'm looking for some elmering I suppose -- Is my rig doing as well as any? Or, is a significant step up possible? Again... I'm interested strictly in digital mode performance. And, again, while I'd *like* to put up a tower with a beam (and I *know* the old adage about 1 dollar spent on antennas is worth 100 spent in teh shack), that just can't happen (for any price I can pay) given my location. Thanks for your opinions, de Peter K1PGV __ -- Andy K3UK Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73 www.obriensweb.com
Re: [digitalradio] Can I get a rig with MORE?
Peter, Here is my thinking. You have a good all around multiband/multimode rig. It may have one of the poorest IMD Dynamic Range numbers for a rig in that price class (OK maybe in most any price class), 5 KHz @ 69 dB and 2 KHz @ 57 dB, but it is a popular rig based upon the reasonably good eham rating of 4.5 and the very large number of reviews at 300 so that says there is a lot of owner satisfaction. If you are not having close in problems with nearby stations, you likely will not find other rigs to be all that much better considering the versatility you have. In other words, you would not likely work many other stations unless you were going for the really weak signals buried in noise and next to strong signals. Then a rig with a much better receiver would be needed such as the Ten Tec Orion or even Omni's. 73, Rick, KV9U Peter G. Viscarola wrote: I work digital modes (PSK, RTTY, MFSK, Olivia, etc) almost exclusively. I also have a pretty low noise environment, living out in the country and with my antenna (a dipole) almost 100' from the nearest RF noise source. Note that upgrading my antenna system is really not an option at this point for a whole lot of reasons. I presently have a TS-2000 and I like it a lot. I like the ability to use the IF DSP to narrow the passband from each side to isolate the signal I want. I've been pretty successful with it, too. Given my modest setup I'm rapidly closing-in on my first 100 for DXCC, after being on HF for only about 4 months. Could I gain some sensitivity/selectivity/better filtering by upgrading my rig? What rigs might folks suggest? How about the SDR-1000? Better? Worse? Something else? I'm relatively new to HF, so I'm looking for some elmering I suppose -- Is my rig doing as well as any? Or, is a significant step up possible? Again... I'm interested strictly in digital mode performance. And, again, while I'd *like* to put up a tower with a beam (and I *know* the old adage about 1 dollar spent on antennas is worth 100 spent in teh shack), that just can't happen (for any price I can pay) given my location. Thanks for your opinions, de Peter K1PGV No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.35/680 - Release Date: 2/10/2007 9:15 PM
Re: [digitalradio] Can I get a rig with MORE?
As they used to say about Leica, get a K2 for backup so when one of your rigs breaks you can use the K2... Leigh/WA5ZNU
Re: [digitalradio] Can I get a rig with MORE?
I have looked at the K2 and other offerings from that company and while they do have some nice numbers, the rigs are extremely expensive by the time you get everything installed. Even connecting up digital requires yet another expensive option that would be standard on any other rig. Not to mention you would build it yourself or have someone else build it. And they are not all that ergonomic either, with small controls and menus. The one thing that I most look for in a rig is the main tuning knob. Is it solid, well balanced, comfortable for extended use, etc.? The K2's tuning knob looks very poor and I have heard complaints from some as well. I happen to do a lot of SWLing, just like I did in the late 50's when I built my first 3 tube Knight Kit:) . Spending a few hours twiddling the tuning for a contest or for causal tuning around causes one to value that feature. That is what sold me on the 756 Pro series after using one for Field Day a few years ago. Have used a 7800 too for FD and it is a nice rig, but not the kind of rig that I personally would buy. To extend the metaphor, I would stick with Nikon or Canon (ICOM or Yaesu) and maybe not consider Pentax. HI HI. If I wanted the ultimate rig for HF digital, it would almost have to be the Orion. I have the ICOM 756 Pro 2 and find that to be quite well designed. No surprises, no odd behaviors, no unfinished tweaking, ergonomically pretty good and it has the superb continuously operating spectrum scope that only ICOM has been able to do well, even much better than the Orion. But the receiver specs are not that great in the 756 series with a close in IMD DR of about 75 dB @ 2 KHz, compared with the unbelievable 90 + dB of the Orion which is far superior to any other rig including the Yaesu FT9000 series and ICOM 7800. But do you really need this kind of superior receiver? Most of us don't. Other factors have to be factored in as well. 73, Rick, KV9U Leigh L Klotz, Jr. wrote: As they used to say about Leica, get a K2 for backup so when one of your rigs breaks you can use the K2... Leigh/WA5ZNU
