Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement
Thanks guys. Please considered this thread.closed. Andy K3UK On 4/2/07, Joe Ivey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Rick, You are correct in your statement. What ever product one is using may well be the best suited or him and not for someone else. Maybe that some just don't understand how to use something that is new to them and right away it is the most terrible thing they ever tried to use. Also it may not be what they thought they needed. Joe W4JSI - Original Message - *From:* kv9u <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, April 02, 2007 3:23 PM *Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement Although Bruce may have been joking, he probably reflects the feeling of a very substantial number of hams. And something to consider, is that perhaps the majority of hams, based on the very low membership percentages of the ARRL. Telling others to "shut up," is highly counter productive, and causes one to lose credibility with such comments (assuming they consider you to have credibility). It might be better to accept that there are many different viewpoints, or ask what can be done to better things. This reminds of a recent experience I had on one of the Linuxham groups where some of the fanatical proponents insisted that if a widescreen monitor did not work with Linux, it was the fault of the equipment. Never mind that it worked perfectly with Windows XP with a driver that accompanied the monitor, or that it worked out of the box with MS Vista. When I pointed this out the kook response was perhaps predictable, but very sad, and shows how one group misunderstands the market place (some blocking of inappropriate words follows): "You stupid, ignorant, duplicitous, pompous $$$. Shut up. Go lick Bill Gates $$$ or whatever it is you do to demonstrate your technical skills." No one disagreed with his assessment, but in the long run he and the other group members did more damage to Linux than anything that Bill Gates could ever do. And he had NO idea how to solve the problem! No idea at all. Just a knee jerk attack the messenger. There seem to be an unusually large number of folks who post on the internet who need a Dale Carnegie course on how to "win friends and influence people." Unless, they really are trying to act counter to what they want for an outcome. 73, Rick, KV9U John Champa wrote: > Bruce, > > Knock off the generalized attacks, OK. > > If that is the best you can do, then please shut up. > > Thanks, > John > K8OCL > > Original Message Follows > From: bruce mallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement > Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 09:59:49 -0700 (PDT) > > Well they would feel right at home ... > > Leadership at the ARRL can be described as a BUNCH OF > FLAKES > > Your question > > Will the ARRL move to Battle Creek? > > > -- Andy K3UK Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73 www.obriensweb.com
Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement
Rick, You are correct in your statement. What ever product one is using may well be the best suited or him and not for someone else. Maybe that some just don't understand how to use something that is new to them and right away it is the most terrible thing they ever tried to use. Also it may not be what they thought they needed. Joe W4JSI - Original Message - From: kv9u To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement Although Bruce may have been joking, he probably reflects the feeling of a very substantial number of hams. And something to consider, is that perhaps the majority of hams, based on the very low membership percentages of the ARRL. Telling others to "shut up," is highly counter productive, and causes one to lose credibility with such comments (assuming they consider you to have credibility). It might be better to accept that there are many different viewpoints, or ask what can be done to better things. This reminds of a recent experience I had on one of the Linuxham groups where some of the fanatical proponents insisted that if a widescreen monitor did not work with Linux, it was the fault of the equipment. Never mind that it worked perfectly with Windows XP with a driver that accompanied the monitor, or that it worked out of the box with MS Vista. When I pointed this out the kook response was perhaps predictable, but very sad, and shows how one group misunderstands the market place (some blocking of inappropriate words follows): "You stupid, ignorant, duplicitous, pompous $$$. Shut up. Go lick Bill Gates $$$ or whatever it is you do to demonstrate your technical skills." No one disagreed with his assessment, but in the long run he and the other group members did more damage to Linux than anything that Bill Gates could ever do. And he had NO idea how to solve the problem! No idea at all. Just a knee jerk attack the messenger. There seem to be an unusually large number of folks who post on the internet who need a Dale Carnegie course on how to "win friends and influence people." Unless, they really are trying to act counter to what they want for an outcome. 73, Rick, KV9U John Champa wrote: > Bruce, > > Knock off the generalized attacks, OK. > > If that is the best you can do, then please shut up. > > Thanks, > John > K8OCL > > Original Message Follows > From: bruce mallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement > Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 09:59:49 -0700 (PDT) > > Well they would feel right at home ... > > Leadership at the ARRL can be described as a BUNCH OF > FLAKES > > Your question > > Will the ARRL move to Battle Creek? > > >
Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement
Although Bruce may have been joking, he probably reflects the feeling of a very substantial number of hams. And something to consider, is that perhaps the majority of hams, based on the very low membership percentages of the ARRL. Telling others to "shut up," is highly counter productive, and causes one to lose credibility with such comments (assuming they consider you to have credibility). It might be better to accept that there are many different viewpoints, or ask what can be done to better things. This reminds of a recent experience I had on one of the Linuxham groups where some of the fanatical proponents insisted that if a widescreen monitor did not work with Linux, it was the fault of the equipment. Never mind that it worked perfectly with Windows XP with a driver that accompanied the monitor, or that it worked out of the box with MS Vista. When I pointed this out the kook response was perhaps predictable, but very sad, and shows how one group misunderstands the market place (some blocking of inappropriate words follows): "You stupid, ignorant, duplicitous, pompous $$$. Shut up. Go lick Bill Gates $$$ or whatever it is you do to demonstrate your technical skills." No one disagreed with his assessment, but in the long run he and the other group members did more damage to Linux than anything that Bill Gates could ever do. And he had NO idea how to solve the problem! No idea at all. Just a knee jerk attack the messenger. There seem to be an unusually large number of folks who post on the internet who need a Dale Carnegie course on how to "win friends and influence people." Unless, they really are trying to act counter to what they want for an outcome. 73, Rick, KV9U John Champa wrote: > Bruce, > > Knock off the generalized attacks, OK. > > If that is the best you can do, then please shut up. > > Thanks, > John > K8OCL > > Original Message Follows > From: bruce mallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement > Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 09:59:49 -0700 (PDT) > > Well they would feel right at home ... > > Leadership at the ARRL can be described as a BUNCH OF > FLAKES > > Your question > > Will the ARRL move to Battle Creek? > > >
Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement
Good heavens...more shooting going on here than at a gun convention. Oh great, I just ticked off the NRA crowd! WOULD EVERYONE RELAX...please?~! Gregg Hendry W8DUQ - Original Message - From: "John Champa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 18:18 Subject: Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement > Bruce, > > Knock off the generalized attacks, OK. > > If that is the best you can do, then please shut up. > > Thanks, > John > K8OCL > > Original Message Follows > From: bruce mallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement > Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 09:59:49 -0700 (PDT) > > Well they would feel right at home ... > > Leadership at the ARRL can be described as a BUNCH OF > FLAKES > > Your question > > Will the ARRL move to Battle Creek?
Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement
Bruce, Knock off the generalized attacks, OK. If that is the best you can do, then please shut up. Thanks, John K8OCL Original Message Follows From: bruce mallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 09:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Well they would feel right at home ... Leadership at the ARRL can be described as a BUNCH OF FLAKES Your question Will the ARRL move to Battle Creek? Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html
Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement
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Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement
On Mar 31, 2007, at 9:44 AM, Andrew O'Brien wrote: It was announced today that Kellogg's and the Federal Communications Commission have signed a pact to issue Amateur Radio Licenses on Will the ARRL move to Battle Creek? -- Brian --> http://users.wildblue.net/k7on/ "Blessed are the cracked, for they shall let in the light."
Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement
Every few years this Arpil Fool's Day joke is added to. I remember the first time it appeared (many years ago)...it only contained the information about licenses on "serial" boxes. Hi Hi Walt/K5YFW Chris wrote: > I thought this was to be announced on April 1st.73...Bob C. WU9Q > > Andrew O'Brien wrote: > >>FCC Announcement >> >>It was announced today that Kellogg's and the Federal Communications >>Commission have signed a pact to issue Amateur Radio Licenses on >>specially marked boxes of Corn Flakes. In this unprecedented move the >>FCC believes this will not hurt amateur radio but allow all >>individuals to receive an amateur radio license without having to >>demonstrate any skills with the exception of being able to use a pair >>of scissors to cut out their operating permit from the breakfast >>cereal box. >> >>Kellogg's spokesperson commented that they were proud to have been >>selected by the government to be the issuer of licenses for amateur >>radio in the US and hope to soon make an agreement with other cereal >>loving countries. They also expect that will be issuing certificates >>of achievement for DXCF for confirmed contacts with 100 corn flakers. >> >>Following the announcement that new amateur radio licensees will be >>able to operate in the HF spectrum without knowledge of Morse Code, >>the 2- meter handi-talki manufacturers have responded to what they >>view as a threat to their business. Said Hiram Bumble, CEO of >>whatawaste.com, the number one HT maker in the world, "We are not >>pleased at all about the new FCC rule. Our business has depended upon >>the rapid entry of no-code technicians who buy an HT, use it a couple >>of times, and then quit the hobby. Now, with the prospect of HF >>operation, a lot of these techies will forego their HTs." >> >>The HT manufacturers have decided to imitate Kodak's defense against >>electronic photography. They will begin making cardboard HTs that cost >>only $19.99. Once the battery is depleted, they are meant to be tossed >>away. It is hoped that the low price tag will make these disposable >>HTs a more compelling purchase than the more costly HF gear. The HT >>manufacturers all also lobbying the Federal government to adopt >>national CC&Rs which will prevent most people from erecting any sort >>of antenna that is more than one meter in length. >> >> > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster > telnet://cluster.dynalias.org > > Our other groups: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement
I think someone is "milking" it. Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all DX 2-6 years each . QSL LOTW-buro- direct As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you use that - also pls upload to LOTW or hard card. moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk - Original Message - From: "Paul L Schmidt, K9PS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement > I smell a conspiracy here. Someone at the FCC being paid off by > Kellogg's in order to increase their market share in a dwindling > market for legacy serial? Are General Mills and Post going to > support USB, or is curtains for them? And how long can Kellogg's > get by with this, even being propped up by the government? > > (Have you ever noticed that the conspiracy theories all seem to > come from the same people? I'd bet there's something to that...) > > 73, > > Paul / K9PS > > Simon Brown wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: "Andrew O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> It was announced today that Kellogg's and the Federal Communications > >> Commission have signed a pact to issue Amateur Radio Licenses on > >> specially marked boxes of Corn Flakes. > > > > Will make serial port programming much easier as well. > > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org > > Our other groups: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.23/740 - Release Date: 3/30/2007 1:15 PM > >
Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement
I smell a conspiracy here. Someone at the FCC being paid off by Kellogg's in order to increase their market share in a dwindling market for legacy serial? Are General Mills and Post going to support USB, or is curtains for them? And how long can Kellogg's get by with this, even being propped up by the government? (Have you ever noticed that the conspiracy theories all seem to come from the same people? I'd bet there's something to that...) 73, Paul / K9PS Simon Brown wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Andrew O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> It was announced today that Kellogg's and the Federal Communications >> Commission have signed a pact to issue Amateur Radio Licenses on >> specially marked boxes of Corn Flakes. > > Will make serial port programming much easier as well. >
Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ITS ONLY A BIT OF FUN ROGER W6VZV. AFTER ALL,ITS TO MUCH GLOOM IN THIS WORLD.LIFE A LITTLE ROGER. 73 IVOR - Original Message - From: Danny Douglas To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement S M I L E Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all DX 2-6 years each . QSL LOTW-buro- direct As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you use that - also pls upload to LOTW or hard card. moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk - Original Message - From: "Roger J. Buffington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement > Andrew O'Brien wrote: > > > > FCC Announcement > > > > It was announced today that Kellogg's and the Federal Communications > > Commission have signed a pact to issue Amateur Radio Licenses on > > specially marked boxes of Corn Flakes. In this unprecedented move the > > FCC believes this will not hurt amateur radio but allow all > > individuals to receive an amateur radio license without having to > > demonstrate any skills with the exception of being able to use a pair > > of scissors to cut out their operating permit from the breakfast > > cereal box. > > > Do we really need this garbage on this forum? > > de Roger W6VZV > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org > > Our other groups: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.23/740 - Release Date: 3/30/2007 1:15 PM > >
Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement
S M I L E Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all DX 2-6 years each . QSL LOTW-buro- direct As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you use that - also pls upload to LOTW or hard card. moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk - Original Message - From: "Roger J. Buffington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement > Andrew O'Brien wrote: > > > > FCC Announcement > > > > It was announced today that Kellogg's and the Federal Communications > > Commission have signed a pact to issue Amateur Radio Licenses on > > specially marked boxes of Corn Flakes. In this unprecedented move the > > FCC believes this will not hurt amateur radio but allow all > > individuals to receive an amateur radio license without having to > > demonstrate any skills with the exception of being able to use a pair > > of scissors to cut out their operating permit from the breakfast > > cereal box. > > > Do we really need this garbage on this forum? > > de Roger W6VZV > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org > > Our other groups: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.23/740 - Release Date: 3/30/2007 1:15 PM > >
Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement
The antenna restrictions have been in place for some time, as required by the government and FCC. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.23/740 - Release Date: 3/30/2007 1:15 PM
Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement
Good one Simon, I had to think for a second or two. .Andy On 3/31/07, Simon Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - Original Message - From: "Andrew O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > It was announced today that Kellogg's and the Federal Communications > Commission have signed a pact to issue Amateur Radio Licenses on > specially marked boxes of Corn Flakes. Will make serial port programming much easier as well. -- Andy K3UK Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73 www.obriensweb.com
Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement
- Original Message - From: "Andrew O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > It was announced today that Kellogg's and the Federal Communications > Commission have signed a pact to issue Amateur Radio Licenses on > specially marked boxes of Corn Flakes. Will make serial port programming much easier as well.
Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement
How can you say so much with your tongue firmly implanted in your cheek? I hope anyway... At 09:44 AM 3/31/2007, you wrote: FCC Announcement It was announced today that Kellogg's and the Federal Communications Commission have signed a pact to issue Amateur Radio Licenses on specially marked boxes of Corn Flakes. In this unprecedented move the FCC believes this will not hurt amateur radio but allow all individuals to receive an amateur radio license without having to demonstrate any skills with the exception of being able to use a pair of scissors to cut out their operating permit from the breakfast cereal box. Kellogg's spokesperson commented that they were proud to have been selected by the government to be the issuer of licenses for amateur radio in the US and hope to soon make an agreement with other cereal loving countries. They also expect that will be issuing certificates of achievement for DXCF for confirmed contacts with 100 corn flakers. Following the announcement that new amateur radio licensees will be able to operate in the HF spectrum without knowledge of Morse Code, the 2- meter handi-talki manufacturers have responded to what they view as a threat to their business. Said Hiram Bumble, CEO of whatawaste.com, the number one HT maker in the world, "We are not pleased at all about the new FCC rule. Our business has depended upon the rapid entry of no-code technicians who buy an HT, use it a couple of times, and then quit the hobby. Now, with the prospect of HF operation, a lot of these techies will forego their HTs." The HT manufacturers have decided to imitate Kodak's defense against electronic photography. They will begin making cardboard HTs that cost only $19.99. Once the battery is depleted, they are meant to be tossed away. It is hoped that the low price tag will make these disposable HTs a more compelling purchase than the more costly HF gear. The HT manufacturers all also lobbying the Federal government to adopt national CC&Rs which will prevent most people from erecting any sort of antenna that is more than one meter in length.
Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement
Andrew O'Brien wrote: > > FCC Announcement > > It was announced today that Kellogg's and the Federal Communications > Commission have signed a pact to issue Amateur Radio Licenses on > specially marked boxes of Corn Flakes. In this unprecedented move the > FCC believes this will not hurt amateur radio but allow all > individuals to receive an amateur radio license without having to > demonstrate any skills with the exception of being able to use a pair > of scissors to cut out their operating permit from the breakfast > cereal box. Do we really need this garbage on this forum? de Roger W6VZV
Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement
I thought this was to be announced on April 1st.73...Bob C. WU9Q Andrew O'Brien wrote: > > FCC Announcement > > It was announced today that Kellogg's and the Federal Communications > Commission have signed a pact to issue Amateur Radio Licenses on > specially marked boxes of Corn Flakes. In this unprecedented move the > FCC believes this will not hurt amateur radio but allow all > individuals to receive an amateur radio license without having to > demonstrate any skills with the exception of being able to use a pair > of scissors to cut out their operating permit from the breakfast > cereal box. > > Kellogg's spokesperson commented that they were proud to have been > selected by the government to be the issuer of licenses for amateur > radio in the US and hope to soon make an agreement with other cereal > loving countries. They also expect that will be issuing certificates > of achievement for DXCF for confirmed contacts with 100 corn flakers. > > Following the announcement that new amateur radio licensees will be > able to operate in the HF spectrum without knowledge of Morse Code, > the 2- meter handi-talki manufacturers have responded to what they > view as a threat to their business. Said Hiram Bumble, CEO of > whatawaste.com, the number one HT maker in the world, "We are not > pleased at all about the new FCC rule. Our business has depended upon > the rapid entry of no-code technicians who buy an HT, use it a couple > of times, and then quit the hobby. Now, with the prospect of HF > operation, a lot of these techies will forego their HTs." > > The HT manufacturers have decided to imitate Kodak's defense against > electronic photography. They will begin making cardboard HTs that cost > only $19.99. Once the battery is depleted, they are meant to be tossed > away. It is hoped that the low price tag will make these disposable > HTs a more compelling purchase than the more costly HF gear. The HT > manufacturers all also lobbying the Federal government to adopt > national CC&Rs which will prevent most people from erecting any sort > of antenna that is more than one meter in length. > >
