Re: [digitalradio] off topic, 3819Khz

[Dave Ackrill]

Steinar Aanesland wrote:

> It turned out to be a real hate network. It vomit up extremely bad
> things about the Obama administration. I am not going into the politics
> here, but is this type of network allowed in US on the HAM band ???

There is a widely held misconception about what is, and is not, allowed 
to be discussed on air.

There is always the good sense point of view that certain topics will be 
likely to stir up bad feeling and argument and are, therefore, best 
avoided in the interests of good manners and avoiding embarrassment.

However, legally it is usually the case that politics, religion and sex, 
for example, are not actually banned as subjects for discussion.

That said, from the reports of the group in question, you have to say 
that a) they are talking to other people who hold their views and are 
unlikely to welcome any constructively opposing views and b) once you 
know their callsigns you can avoid having anything to do with them, so 
it's going to be a self inclusive group that is going to show its 
prejudice to anyone that listens for a while.

A long time ago I stopped arguing with people with whom I was unlikely 
to persuade of my argument, or who I wasn't likely to ever be convinced 
of their point of view, as just being a waste of time on both sides.  I 
suspect that groups such as those mentioned fall into this general 
category and I would also include groups who hold similarly extreme 
points of view on the other side of the political argument as well...

A good case in point was a colleague of mine, who was espousing his own 
political point of view about how he thought people should vote in the 
UK the other day.  In conversation over a pint or two I gave him my 
point of view, which he didn't accept, but I guess we agreed to differ 
and left it at that.  Maybe that sort of conversation might be 'OK' on 
air, but I wouldn't want to have it because personally I don't think the 
Amateur Bands are the place to have conversations that you have in the 
Pub.  But that's just my point of view.  HI.

Dave (G0DJA)

Re: [digitalradio] off topic, 3819Khz

[Steinar Aanesland]

Hi Andy

I probably was too far out with this "off topic" , but after a half an
hour listening to the stream I was in chock. I have never heard such bad
language on the band and
since people on this group often write about US regulation I took the
chance to ask.

Yes, the Pinell radio is a great toy. It has over 15,000 Internet radio
stations and Podcasts to choose from.

73 de la5vna Steinar





On 23.01.2010 16:41, Andy obrien wrote:
> Regardless of who is in Govt at the current time, there seems to be an
> increase in the USA of hams who express political opinion over the air.
> When I first became a ham , my mentors explained that expressing political
> opinion over the air was not within the ethics of ham radio.  Alas, this
> view seems to have changed over the years, at least in the USA. 
Interesting
> new Toy, Steinar.
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Steinar Aanesland
wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I know this is off topic, but I am confused.
>>
>> I have a new toy. It is a Internet radio from Pinell (
>> http://www.pinell.no/ ) . When I was playing around with it I came
>> across a streamed live ham frequency form the net: "
>> http://www.3819khz.net/";
>>
>> It turned out to be a real hate network. It vomit up extremely bad
>> things about the Obama administration. I am not going into the politics
>> here, but is this type of network allowed in US on the HAM band ???
>>
>> 73 la5vna Steinar
>>
>

Re: [digitalradio] off topic, 3819Khz

[Andy obrien]

Regardless of who is in Govt at the current time, there seems to be an
increase in the USA of hams who express political opinion over the air.
When I first became a ham , my mentors explained that expressing political
opinion over the air was not within the ethics of ham radio.  Alas, this
view seems to have changed over the years, at least in the USA.  Interesting
new Toy, Steinar.


On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Steinar Aanesland wrote:

>
>
> Hi all
>
> I know this is off topic, but I am confused.
>
> I have a new toy. It is a Internet radio from Pinell (
> http://www.pinell.no/ ) . When I was playing around with it I came
> across a streamed live ham frequency form the net: "
> http://www.3819khz.net/";
>
> It turned out to be a real hate network. It vomit up extremely bad
> things about the Obama administration. I am not going into the politics
> here, but is this type of network allowed in US on the HAM band ???
>
> 73 la5vna Steinar
>

Re: [digitalradio] OFF TOPIC

[Rodney]

Thanks!  Antennas are a science all on their own and I LOVE to mess with them.  
Any information I can get on them helps!  
 
I like to hear how others fix/modify/build their antennas!

I know that it may seem off topic, but it IS related to Ham Radio!
 
Thanks again!

Rod
KC7CJO

--- On Thu, 1/8/09, Rick W  wrote:

From: Rick W 
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] OFF TOPIC
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 11:22 AM






J-Poles, or for that matter, SlimJims, could be built for either 
portable or fixed operation from 450 ohm slotted twin lead. I have a 
fixed home J-Pole constructed from 450 ohm window line and sealed in 
PVC. Because the velocity factor is significantly slowed down by the 
PVC, you have adjust the size of the antenna. The 450 ohm line is 
available from ham dealers such as AES, etc.

There are two kinds of 450 ohm twin lead that I have used. The very 
heavy duty type with multistrand 14 AWG and the much lighter single 
strand 18 AWG. While I don't recommend the 18 AWG for long term use, 
e.g., making an open wire fed antenna, or G5RV and ZS6BKW types, this 
can work well for lighter weight portable dipoles, and making J-Poles 
for VHF, either free hanging or inside a PVC. For back packing I would 
choose the TV twinlead and have it as a roll up and if I used a walking 
stick, would have a ready short mast.

Of course you only need the twin lead for the Q section and the main 
half wave part of the antenna can be wire. I have done it both ways. 
When using the 450 ohm line inside PVC it tends to stay firmly upright 
and does not sag like wire is prone to do.

The reason I don't like the copper tubing designs is the exposure of the 
connections to the weather. With a soldered connection on the J-Pole 
encased in PVC, it seems to work well. I use a different approach with 
the addition of a bottom "Tee" which is positioned so the feedpoint is 
at right angles to the Q section. I hope to have a write up about this 
in the files section of the hfdec yahoogroup to add to our antenna 
projects section. It can never be published in QST since it is not 
finessed and uses things like electrical tape to throw it together, HI.

73,

Rick, KV9U

Rodney wrote:
> I haven't been following this thread until now, but are you building 
> these antennas for portability or are you using them in a base 
> configuration?
> 
> I've found 300-ohm twinlead to be the best as far as portability and 
> ease of construction. I live in the Portland Oregon area and haven't 
> seen any 450-ohm ladder line, anywhere, at least not for sale. 
> 
> I've never worked with it so I really can't make many comments on it, 
> but it would seem to be harder to work with and the physical size 
> wouldn't make it condusive to back packing!
> 
> Personally, I have a copper J-Pole that I can break down and take with 
> me every where I go. I also have the twinlead J-Poles that have 
> served me well in most mobile situations!
> 
> Just my thoughts!
>
> Rod
> KC7Cjo
>

 














  

Re: [digitalradio] OFF TOPIC

[Rick W]

J-Poles, or for that matter, SlimJims, could be built for either 
portable or fixed operation from 450 ohm slotted twin lead. I have a 
fixed home J-Pole constructed from 450 ohm window line and sealed in 
PVC. Because the velocity factor is significantly slowed down by the 
PVC, you have adjust the size of the antenna. The 450 ohm line is 
available from ham dealers such as AES, etc.

There are two kinds of 450 ohm twin lead that I have used. The very 
heavy duty type with multistrand 14 AWG and the much lighter single 
strand 18 AWG. While I don't recommend the 18 AWG for long term use, 
e.g., making an open wire fed antenna, or G5RV and ZS6BKW types, this 
can work well for lighter weight portable dipoles, and making J-Poles 
for VHF, either free hanging or inside a PVC. For back packing I would 
choose the TV twinlead and have it as a roll up and if I used a walking 
stick, would have a ready short mast.

Of course you only need the twin lead for the Q section and the main 
half wave part of the antenna can be wire. I have done it both ways. 
When using the 450 ohm line inside PVC it tends to stay firmly upright 
and does not sag like wire is prone to do.

The reason I don't like the copper tubing designs is the exposure of the 
connections to the weather. With a soldered connection on the J-Pole 
encased in PVC, it seems to work well. I use a different approach with 
the addition of a bottom "Tee" which is positioned so the feedpoint is 
at right angles to the Q section. I hope to have a write up about this 
in the files section of the hfdec yahoogroup to add to our antenna 
projects section. It can never be published in QST since it is not 
finessed and uses things like electrical tape to throw it together, HI.

73,

Rick, KV9U


Rodney wrote:
> I haven't been following this thread until now, but are you building 
> these antennas for portability or are you using them in a base 
> configuration?
>  
> I've found 300-ohm twinlead to be the best as far as portability and 
> ease of construction.  I live in the Portland Oregon area and haven't 
> seen any 450-ohm ladder line, anywhere, at least not for sale. 
>  
> I've never worked with it so I really can't make many comments on it, 
> but it would seem to be harder to work with and the physical size 
> wouldn't make it condusive to back packing!
>  
> Personally, I have a copper J-Pole that I can break down and take with 
> me every where I go.  I also have the twinlead J-Poles that have 
> served me well in most mobile situations!
>  
> Just my thoughts!
>
> Rod
> KC7Cjo
>

Re: [digitalradio] OFF TOPIC

[Rodney]

I haven't been following this thread until now, but are you building these 
antennas for portability or are you using them in a base configuration?
 
I've found 300-ohm twinlead to be the best as far as portability and ease of 
construction.  I live in the Portland Oregon area and haven't seen any 450-ohm 
ladder line, anywhere, at least not for sale. 
 
I've never worked with it so I really can't make many comments on it, but it 
would seem to be harder to work with and the physical size wouldn't make it 
condusive to back packing!
 
Personally, I have a copper J-Pole that I can break down and take with me every 
where I go.  I also have the twinlead J-Poles that have served me well in most 
mobile situations!
 
Just my thoughts!

Rod
KC7Cjo

--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Alan J. Wilson  wrote:

From: Alan J. Wilson 
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] OFF TOPIC
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 9:30 PM












Why do you prefer the SlimJim over the J-Pole?

LB Cebik did an in depth comparison of the two antennas and found the 
J-Pole to be slightly better in performance.

Recently, our club had a J-Pole antenna building party and it was 
difficult to get them tuned up where we wanted them using TV twinlead.

My best success with homebrew verticals has been when I used 450 ohm 
slotted line, but I have never tried building the SlimJim's. Maybe they 
are easier to match?

73,

Rick, KV9U

Alan Wilson wrote:
> You can build 2m slimjim out of 450 ladderline for less than 5 
> bucks...Look on http://www.hamunive rse.com, I've built several and 
> they are very easy to construct, easier and better than the 
> jpole...73, Alan


 














  

Re: [digitalradio] OFF TOPIC

[Alan J. Wilson]

Ri ck, I`ve built both. I`ve compared them side by side and the slimjim 
wins. I could hear and get into repeaters with the slimjim that I could 
not with the jpole. Plus it matches much easier and is easier to build 
than the jpole. I always used the 450 ladderline to build the slim jim. 
The tv twinlead is a lot harder to work with. The one advantage of the 
jpole I found was that when you made it out of copper it was easier to 
mount. To mount the slimjim from the bottom. I put the ladderline in 1 
in pvc and really taped a fiberglass rod to the side of it. Then  I 
mounted the ant by clamping the fiberglass rod to a metal mast and it 
works good. Note, enclosing the ladderline will change the optimum feed 
point...hope this answers your question...73, Alan


Why do you prefer the SlimJim over the J-Pole?

LB Cebik did an in depth comparison of the two antennas and found the
J-Pole to be slightly better in performance.

Recently, our club had a J-Pole antenna building party and it was
difficult to get them tuned up where we wanted them using TV twinlead.

My best success with homebrew verticals has been when I used 450 ohm
slotted line, but I have never tried building the SlimJim's. Maybe they
are easier to match?

73,

Rick, KV9U

Alan Wilson wrote:
> You can build 2m slimjim out of 450 ladderline for less than 5
> bucks...Look on http://www.hamuniverse.com, 
 I've built several and

> they are very easy to construct, easier and better than the
> jpole...73, Alan

 

Re: [digitalradio] OFF TOPIC

[Phil Barnett]

aat3ol wrote:
> I AM LOOKING FOR A USED BUT WORKING 2 METER VERTICAL 
How about building one? It doesn't get much cheaper or easier than this one:

http://www.hamuniverse.com/2metergp.html

And as far as I can tell, they work as good or better than any j-pole 
because you don't need any choke to keep the RF off the feedline.

You might also find this one to be of interest...

http://www.ac4rc.org/2M CPFL Antenna.pdf

Re: [digitalradio] OFF TOPIC

[Rick W]

Alan,

Why do you prefer the SlimJim over the J-Pole?

LB Cebik did an in depth comparison of the two antennas and found the 
J-Pole to be slightly better in performance.

Recently, our club had a J-Pole antenna building party and it was 
difficult to get them tuned up where we wanted them using TV twinlead.

My best success with homebrew verticals has been when I used 450 ohm 
slotted line, but I have never tried building the SlimJim's. Maybe they 
are easier to match?

73,

Rick, KV9U


Alan Wilson wrote:
> You can build 2m slimjim out of 450 ladderline for less than 5 
> bucks...Look on http://www.hamuniverse.com, I've built several and 
> they are very easy to construct, easier and better than the 
> jpole...73, Alan

Re: [digitalradio] OFF TOPIC

[Alan Wilson]

You can build 2m slimjim out of 450 ladderline for less than 5 bucks...Look
on http://www.hamuniverse.com, I've built several and they are very easy to
construct, easier and better than the jpole...73, Alan

On 1/7/09, aat3ol  wrote:
>
>   I AM LOOKING FOR A USED BUT WORKING 2 METER VERTICAL OR AN 11 METER
> ANTENNA I CAN MODIFY THAT ANYONE IS WILL TO DONATE OR GIVE FOR MY
> PACKET STATION, SINCE I HAD A WIND STORM TAKE MINE OUT WITH A 100 LB
> BRANCH
> LOOKED INTO BUYING ONE NEW AND BUILDING ONE THE COST IS OUTRAGEOUS FOR
> THE COST OF COPPER SO IF ANYONE CAN HELP PLEASE LET ME KNOW
> BILL
>
> 
>



-- 
Quote for the day: "99% of the lawyers give the rest a bad name."

Alan Wilson
67 Bullseye Lane
Victor, MT 59875
http://montanaham.tripod.com

RE: [digitalradio] off topic but a very cool looking photo

[Barry Garratt]

Even more curious is the fact all of those bulbs are not illuminating any of
the surrounding terrain.
 
73, Barry VE3CDX/W7

  _  

From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jose A. Amador
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:54 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] off topic but a very cool looking photo




Curious

BUTI guess that AC is needed for that effect.

In that case, it is not "static energy"...

And noise can be produced both by AC and DC EHV lines, caused
by dark and corona discharges.

73,

Jose, CO2JA

---

Patrick Novak VK2PN wrote:

> G'day John
> 
> No wonder I'm getting S-9 QRM in my QTH hi hi
> 
> 73
> Patrick
> VK2PN
> 
> John Becker, WØJAB wrote:
>>
>> This is a photo of 1000 6ft light tubes powered only by the
>> stray static energy from the overhead 750Kv (750,000 volt)
>> power lines.
>>
>> 1f0bf99d.jpg 

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Re: [digitalradio] off topic but a very cool looking photo

[Jose A. Amador]

Curious

BUTI guess that AC is needed for that effect.

In that case, it is not "static energy"...

And noise can be produced both by AC and DC EHV lines, caused
by dark and corona discharges.

73,

Jose, CO2JA

---

Patrick Novak VK2PN wrote:

> G'day John
> 
> No wonder I'm getting S-9 QRM in my QTH hi hi
> 
> 73
> Patrick
> VK2PN
> 
> John Becker, WØJAB wrote:
>>
>> This is a photo of 1000 6ft light tubes powered only by the
>> stray static energy from the overhead 750Kv (750,000 volt)
>> power lines.
>>
>> 1f0bf99d.jpg 



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Re: [digitalradio] Off-topic, but any help appreciated

[kd4e]

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> 
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> KB3MOW

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Re: [digitalradio] Off topic....DX QSL forwarding

[Joe Ivey]

Rich,

The only other one that I know about is eQSL: http://www.eqsl.cc/
It is only good for their awards. The ARRL does not accept it for any of 
their awards. Not everyone belongs to it either. It is free but they do ask 
for a donation.

Joe
W4JSI

- Original Message - 
From: "swl0720" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 11:21 AM
Subject: [digitalradio] Off topicDX QSL forwarding


> Does anyone know of another way to fwd DX QSLs to their bureau's
> besides the ARRL?  I am 100% digi and thought that maybe there was
> some "digibureau" or the likes..
> Thanks,
> Rich/K2TFT
>
>
>
>
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