[steering-discuss] tomorrow's call postponed
Hello, as lots of Steering Committee members are unavailable due to travels tomorrow, we will postpone the conference call to next week. Sorry for the short notice. Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/steering-discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE : Re: [steering-discuss] By-Laws / BOD elections
Varun, Sponsors ar in the AB. The BoD is for contributors, and you can be both. We would not be the first ones to hzve that model btw, gnome has it. Charles. Le 19 nov. 2010, 4:09 AM, Varun Mittal varunmitta...@gmail.com a écrit : Hi All, I didn't mean sponsors will have more seats. I meant sponsors should have some representation on board. There would be elections for rest of the seats with a predefined procedure. Why do you expect a sponsor to pour several million $ when you don't even let them participate in the working. I am not asking them to be given any veto. But to my logic they should be given a non-veto, nor majority role. My 2 cents... Thank You Best Regards Varun Mittal http://www.varunmittal.info Google https://www.google.com/profiles/varunmittal87 F... On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Karl-Heinz Gödderz de...@gukk-online.de wrote: Charles-H. Schulz schrieb: Hello Varun Le Wed, 17 Nov 2010 06:08:01 +0800, Va... E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.orgsteering-discuss%2bh...@documentfoundation.org steering-discuss%2bh...@documentfoundation.orgsteering-discuss%252bh...@documentfoundation.orgfor instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/steering-discuss/ All m... -- E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/steering-discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[steering-discuss] poll on next confcall
Hi, we should host another marketing confcall this year, so I'd like to hear your favorite date and time at http://www.doodle.com/ffzxhxpmcthd5t53 Hope to hear you soon :-) Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/steering-discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] By-Laws / BOD elections
Hello all, Please do take a look -again- at the bylaws that I just updated: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/CommunityBylaws My modifications do not alter the text in any substantial way, however they add four points: - the ESC rules get clarified esp. regarding the election of the Chairman, and the ESC can now be put under administration by the BoD if it deems it necessary. However, neither the number of its members, nor its status of a non-elected body are changed. - election of the chairman is now done by the same three (BoD, AB, ESC) but through the vote of the three assemblies, not by the vote of each of its individual members. - BoD now gets its team renewed by half each year. - Specific provisions concerning potential conflicts of interest at the BoD and the ESC have been added (see the Transparency section). So it's time to call Pavel again (just kidding). As usual, let me know what you think. best, Charles. Le Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:04:05 +, Michael Meeks michael.me...@novell.com a écrit : Hi Varun, On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 11:08 +0800, Varun Mittal wrote: I didn't mean sponsors will have more seats. I meant sponsors should have some representation on board. There would be elections for rest of the seats with a predefined procedure. I'm against that. If a sponsor is investing lots of money - they will attract good developers, who will get well-known in the community, and people will vote for them so they get onto the board. Why do you expect a sponsor to pour several million $ I do not :-) If they want to pour millions of $ in - they should do that by employing people (or contractors) to develop the features, UI's, L10ns, Marketing or whatever -they- need. That way - they can ensure the money is spent on exactly what they want - without needing to fight some corporate battle over a bigger pot of money :-) Of course, they should pay a nominal membership of several $10k's to the foundation to support central infrastructure, that goes without saying. HTH, Michael. -- Charles-H. Schulz Membre du Comité exécutif The Document Foundation. -- E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/steering-discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Why LO mobile version should not be ignored
On 18 November 2010 23:05, Harold Fuchs hwfa.libreoff...@gmail.com wrote: On 18/11/2010 19:39, Ian Lynch wrote: On 18 November 2010 14:27, Florian Reisingerreisi...@live.at wrote: Has anyone in authority asked the PortableApps folk if they'd do a portable LibO? Can't hurt to ask ... Has anyone in authority asked the Android and/or Apple and/or Symbian folk if they'd do a mobile LibO? Can't hurt to ask ... snip -- Harold Fuchs London, England That would be a great idea. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.orgdiscuss%2bh...@documentfoundation.org discuss%2bh...@documentfoundation.orgdiscuss%252bh...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** I'd be surprised if Google hadn't already thought about it and so they probably rejected it. After all they already have Google Docs and my Android phone has ThinkFree Office. Symbian is using K-office. The barrier of the size of LO is a significant issue. If it is slimmed and phones get more powerful it can happen but the longer that takes the moore likely it will be that it is too late :-(. Even a light weight WP based on Writer from a workflow point of view and supporting odf would be better than nothing. 90% of people simply don't need all the functions for the things they do most often and this likely what they would do on phone technology. Your comment about the size of LibO is highly relevant. I've been amazed ever since I first encountered OOo that it isn't in separately installable modules. Perhaps, if it is to make significant inroads into the developing markets, it needs a complete re-design to conform to the Unix philosophy of making small tools that each do one job well but can be easily combined. ThinkFree seems do do MS Office format only :-( It seems to be able to handle doc, xls etc. but *not* docx, xlsx etc. K-Office seems to be able to handle ODF. Perhaps LibO is too late for the mobile market, which would be a shame, but I still think a *portable* version would be an excellent seller. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Really it's down to the Star Office heritage. Star Office originated at a time when megalithic apps were the in thing. (at least with MSFT) You can see why. Ever increasing size forces people to upgrade their hardware. New computer new Windows sale. There was absolutely no incentive to do things differently. Of course the developers of Star Office didn't have to do it that way but they probably thought this is the model that is accepted by end users so we have to have highly integrated to compete. Once it is in the millions of lines of code it is very difficult to get off that treadmlll. Personally I'd rather have seen the engineering effort going first for efficiency with a set of features good enough for 90% of the market starting 10 years ago but we can't turn the clock back. And of course there is the argument that without certain features some of the large public sector switches might not have happened. -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications The Schools ITQwww.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: Inkscape vs. Draw
Hi, I am OOo, and now LO user. Le 15/11/2010 14:22, RGB ES a écrit : 2010/11/15 Ian Lynchianrly...@gmail.com: The point is that for me Inkscape is more usable and if there was an option to replace Draw with it in LO/OOo I'd take that option. Clumsy non-multi-tasking dialogues are just one of many issues. I guess if a long time supporter of OOo like me is saying this many others would too, so rather than trying to justify Draw's shortcomings we need to work out how to prioritise improvements to Draw and learn from applications that do it better. -- Ian I use Draw only for simply diagrams, for complex stuff I use Inkscape or (maybe, I'm starting the tests with it) karbon14. Draw and Inkscape are not equivalent. To draw freely, I prefer Inkscape but in some cases I think Draw better to be integrated in an office suite : - specific scale drawing (plans, technical drawing...) - automatic dimension lines - different export formats - multi-slide possibility - layers comportment (functional layer vs. position layer) - separated display and print layers functions - ... As we lost layers in OOo 1.0 impress module (used for multi-languages presentation or different displayed and printed documents ), replacing Draw by another module should be damageable for LO usability. Luc. -- _ o / \\ \_/ O ° Faites un cadeau aux générations futures, abandonnez votre voiture ! -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
[tdf-discuss] The Problem in PPT
The Chinese Character is not the same between microsoft office and libreoffice in .ppt flies. All the character is not in the right position which is arranged by the author. -- 路 12:32 你们这小群,不要惧怕,因为你们的父乐意把国赐给你们。
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Why LO mobile version should not be ignored
Ian Lynch: And of course there is the argument that without certain features some of the large public sector switches might not have happened. Back in my teens, my dad and I wrote a Basic interpreter for the PC based on the Acorn BBC Micro dialect. We went to a computer show, and I lost count of the number of people who just asked Is it 100% compatible?, and when I said no, but..., they just laughed and walked off. It's a hard barrier to break through - there are plenty of people who will say It doesn't have feature X therefore we'll stick with Microsoft. Sometimes it's features that can be worked around, such as only allowing one AutoFilter in a workbook, but someone will use that as an excuse for declaring a show-stop. Phil. -- Don't you just hate self-referential sigs? -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
[tdf-discuss] LibreOffice should have own LibreOfficeFont
Hello Early this year FlashCounter published a statistic showed popularity OOo in selected countries. We found out that it had 22% in Poland and Czech Republic and 21% in Germany. http://www.webmasterpro.de/portal/news/2010/02/05/international-openoffice-market-shares.html http://ooblog.pl/2010/02/06/polska-swiatowym-liderem-we-wdrozeniu-openoffice/(polish) The study relies on extricating fonts installed on the system and identify the installed Office suites. For OOo it's OpenSymbol and for MSO it's Calibri. I think LibreOffice should have own unique font (not RedHat Liberation Fonts). It can be ugly and useless but should be to next compare in future. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws
Hi Drew, On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 07:56 -0500, drew wrote: May I ask here then, the term 'release team' is used above and this is a question that has been on my mind for a few days. Ah - the GNOME 'release team' is about as close as GNOME gets to having a central body that stewards direction: mostly by deciding what new modules to include into GNOME. LibreOffice is rather different - and I think would benefit from having a central group of component maintainers and companies to co-ordinate development. I suppose this is a question specifically for Michael, but not exclusively so. :-) The ESC, do you see this as a very active group, for instance working as the release team, meeting often and looking at individual issues? Wrt. looking at individual issues, probably not - unless they have wide reaching consequences; but to better co-ordinate on the burning issues of the day, and have a final say on things like: Do we port entirely to Java (I think 'no' but ... ;-) And to be a responsible backstop for technical issues - which often simply require a decision - any decision being far better than none. Wrt. having a separate release team for LibreOffice - that makes a lot of sense too, though I don't know that it needs to be that formal, and should include all those whose job it is to get builds out there. Regards, Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/steering-discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws
On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 16:07 +, Michael Meeks wrote: On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 07:56 -0500, drew wrote: The ESC, do you see this as a very active group, for instance working as the release team, meeting often and looking at individual issues? Wrt. looking at individual issues, probably not - unless they have wide reaching consequences; but to better co-ordinate on the burning issues of the day, and have a final say on things like: Do we port entirely to Java (I think 'no' but ... ;-) And to be a responsible backstop for technical issues - which often simply require a decision - any decision being far better than none. Right - thanks. Your description is what I understood as their function, the 'release team' reference simply caused be to say 'Huh?'. Ciao, Drew -- E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/steering-discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice should have own LibreOfficeFont
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:55:18 +0100 Subject: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice should have own LibreOfficeFont From: mzasu...@gmail.com To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Hello Early this year FlashCounter published a statistic showed popularity OOo in selected countries. We found out that it had 22% in Poland and Czech Republic and 21% in Germany. http://www.webmasterpro.de/portal/news/2010/02/05/international-openoffice-market-shares.html http://ooblog.pl/2010/02/06/polska-swiatowym-liderem-we-wdrozeniu-openoffice/(polish) The study relies on extricating fonts installed on the system and identify the installed Office suites. For OOo it's OpenSymbol and for MSO it's Calibri. I think LibreOffice should have own unique font (not RedHat Liberation Fonts). It can be ugly and useless but should be to next compare in future. That's a ingenious idea!!! What's about this font: LINK Kind regards Florian Reisinger Linz Austria -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
RE: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice should have own LibreOfficeFont
This is the right link: http://fontstruct.fontshop.com/fontstructions/show/332612Kind regards Florian Reisinger Linz Austria -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Why LO mobile version should not be ignored
On 19 November 2010 15:11, Phil Hibbs sna...@gmail.com wrote: Ian Lynch: And of course there is the argument that without certain features some of the large public sector switches might not have happened. Back in my teens, my dad and I wrote a Basic interpreter for the PC based on the Acorn BBC Micro dialect. We went to a computer show, and I lost count of the number of people who just asked Is it 100% compatible?, and when I said no, but..., they just laughed and walked off. It's a hard barrier to break through - there are plenty of people who will say It doesn't have feature X therefore we'll stick with Microsoft. Sometimes it's features that can be worked around, such as only allowing one AutoFilter in a workbook, but someone will use that as an excuse for declaring a show-stop. Thing we don't really know is whether a very efficient and compact version of Writer that supported excellent filters for all the commonly used things like tables, headings etc and worked in a cell phone would outweigh anything missing. After all the versions of MS Office for handhelds is only a subset of the full MS Office. In phones it is not the same barrier as in PCs, Phil. -- Don't you just hate self-referential sigs? -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.orgdiscuss%2bh...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications The Schools ITQwww.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice should have own LibreOfficeFont
Hi Florian, *, Florian Reisinger schrieb: This is the right link: http://fontstruct.fontshop.com/fontstructions/show/332612Kind regards I get: Sign In http://fontstruct.fontshop.com/sign_in/show_fontstruction Gruß/regards -- Friedrich Libreoffice-Box http://libreofficebox.org/ LibreOffice and more on CD/DVD images (german version already started) -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice should have own LibreOfficeFont
Hi Mateusz, *, Mateusz Zasuwik schrieb: Friedrich Strohmaier schrieb: I get: Sign In http://fontstruct.fontshop.com/sign_in/show_fontstruction Try http://fontstruct.fontshop.com/fontstructions/show/332612 ;) works better! Thanks :o)) Gruß/regards -- Friedrich Libreoffice-Box http://libreofficebox.org/ LibreOffice and more on CD/DVD images (german version already started) -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
[steering-discuss] marketing confcall recording available
Hi, the recording of the marketing confcall on November 17th is now online at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/ConfCalls#17-Nov-2010 Thanks to Christoph for hosting the meeting! Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/steering-discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice should have own LibreOfficeFont
Hi Mateusz, everyone, 2010/11/19 Mateusz Zasuwik mzasu...@gmail.com Hello Early this year FlashCounter published a statistic showed popularity OOo in selected countries. We found out that it had 22% in Poland and Czech Republic and 21% in Germany. http://www.webmasterpro.de/portal/news/2010/02/05/international-openoffice-market-shares.html http://ooblog.pl/2010/02/06/polska-swiatowym-liderem-we-wdrozeniu-openoffice/(polish) The study relies on extricating fonts installed on the system and identify the installed Office suites. For OOo it's OpenSymbol and for MSO it's Calibri. I think LibreOffice should have own unique font (not RedHat Liberation Fonts). It can be ugly and useless but should be to next compare in future. I'm really against a special LibO font. What the open-source community should be doing is ensuring that a select few open-source fonts are available in as many places as possible. Just like documents written with Times/Arial/Courier fonts are readable basically everywhere, documents with Bitstream Vera or Liberation fonts should be readable everywhere, too. If a font is ugly and useless, then it really has no place in LibO. Even if it was good-looking, all a special LibO font would do is cause documents written with this font to look wrong on any system without LibO installed. LibO should do whatever's best for the user. Besides, why would LibO need to have separate statistics from OOo? Even if Oracle's in charge, OOo is still a brother project to LibO, an ally, not an enemy. Lastly, fonts aren't a very good indicator of which suites are installed: open-source fonts are usually freely downloadable and installable (which is good, because if you have a document in that font, you actually get to see what it's intended to look like). I myself have installed fonts such as the Droid fonts, the Chrome OS fonts, the Ubuntu font, etc. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: Moderator problem
Florian Effenberger wrote: Are you sending with the address registered as moderator? Yes, Florian. I have more info. When I didn't see my own message in discuss (via mail) I sent one to users. I haven't seen that one either. Now I decided to log in here via nabble, and here is my message together with your reply. So for some reason I'm not getting email from discuss or users. //James -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Moderator-problem-tp1932020p1933188.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Moderator problem
Hi, James Wilde wrote on 2010-11-19 22.52: Yes, Florian. I have more info. When I didn't see my own message in discuss (via mail) I sent one to users. I haven't seen that one either. Now I decided to log in here via nabble, and here is my message together with your reply. So for some reason I'm not getting email from discuss or users. hm, that's strange. Maybe issues with your mail provider? Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice should have own LibreOfficeFont
What if someone decided to generate statistics with another metric, like identifying what office suites are installed? Then would you want to change the install process to make it look different from OO? Just because FlashCounter found a dumb way to collect statistics doesn't mean you have to do something dumber. Dave. From: Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Fri, November 19, 2010 4:13:22 PM Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice should have own LibreOfficeFont Hi Mateusz, everyone, 2010/11/19 Mateusz Zasuwik mzasu...@gmail.com Hello Early this year FlashCounter published a statistic showed popularity OOo in selected countries. We found out that it had 22% in Poland and Czech Republic and 21% in Germany. http://www.webmasterpro.de/portal/news/2010/02/05/international-openoffice-market-shares.html l http://ooblog.pl/2010/02/06/polska-swiatowym-liderem-we-wdrozeniu-openoffice/(polish) ) The study relies on extricating fonts installed on the system and identify the installed Office suites. For OOo it's OpenSymbol and for MSO it's Calibri. I think LibreOffice should have own unique font (not RedHat Liberation Fonts). It can be ugly and useless but should be to next compare in future. I'm really against a special LibO font. What the open-source community should be doing is ensuring that a select few open-source fonts are available in as many places as possible. Just like documents written with Times/Arial/Courier fonts are readable basically everywhere, documents with Bitstream Vera or Liberation fonts should be readable everywhere, too. If a font is ugly and useless, then it really has no place in LibO. Even if it was good-looking, all a special LibO font would do is cause documents written with this font to look wrong on any system without LibO installed. LibO should do whatever's best for the user. Besides, why would LibO need to have separate statistics from OOo? Even if Oracle's in charge, OOo is still a brother project to LibO, an ally, not an enemy. Lastly, fonts aren't a very good indicator of which suites are installed: open-source fonts are usually freely downloadable and installable (which is good, because if you have a document in that font, you actually get to see what it's intended to look like). I myself have installed fonts such as the Droid fonts, the Chrome OS fonts, the Ubuntu font, etc. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: Moderator problem
On Nov 19, 2010, at 23:06 , Florian Effenberger [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] wrote: Hi, James Wilde wrote on 2010-11-19 22.52: Yes, Florian. I have more info. When I didn't see my own message in discuss (via mail) I sent one to users. I haven't seen that one either. Now I decided to log in here via nabble, and here is my message together with your reply. So for some reason I'm not getting email from discuss or users. hm, that's strange. Maybe issues with your mail provider? I've sent them an email to see whether df and libo emails - or rather some of them - are being treated as spam. I do get rather a lot! In the meantime I've registered myself with wilde.ja...@gmail.com in all three, and maybe you can fix me as moderator with that email address, too. Thanks a million. //James Florian -- Florian Effenberger [hidden email] Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to [hidden email] Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** View message @ http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Moderator-problem-tp1932020p1933240.html To unsubscribe from Moderator problem, click here. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Moderator-problem-tp1932020p1933265.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
[tdf-discuss] Version Numbers?
As a concerned user, if LibreOffice is meant a independent office project derived from the OpenOffice code then why do we still use their version numbering system. Wouldn't it be better to start from 1 to reinforce in peoples minds that we are a separate project. -- Sean White, Concerned User -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Version Numbers?
Sean White wrote: As a concerned user, if LibreOffice is meant a independent office project derived from the OpenOffice code then why do we still use their version numbering system. Wouldn't it be better to start from 1 to reinforce in peoples minds that we are a separate project. I couldn't agree more. As a new project it should have its own numbering scheme. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: Problems with DEB files
On 11/18/2010 12:12 PM, Cor Nouws wrote: Andy Brown wrote (18-11-10 20:34) Is anyone besides me having a problem opening the DEB archives for Beta 3? I keep getting an error tar: This does not look like a tar archive. I had the same problem with beta 2. So after some silence on the list, I used the rpm package and alien. Cor That is surprising. I just used gwget yesterday (18 Nov) and the appropriate cpu version from: http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-beta3/deb/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice should have own LibreOfficeFont
Just because FlashCounter found a dumb way to collect statistics doesn't mean you have to do something dumber. Dave. LOL but still +1 Beautiful timeless fonts are difficult and to create, you can't just throw them together like that font building website suggests. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] New support list suggestion
Hi Charles, * Charles Marcus schrieb: I'd really like to see an email support list dedicated solely to questions in the nature of I know how to do this in Excel/Word/Powerpoint, but how do I do it on Calc/Writer/Impress?... I'd rather like to see this in a FAQ - perhaps in a dedicated area or tagged with MSO relation. Linking to other support means (Forum, mailing list etc) should be a must for the FAQ - and new entries should be created easily (perhaps with different stages proposal / approved). Best regards Bernhard -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice should have own LibreOfficeFont
On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 10:45 +0930, Michael Wheatland wrote: Just because FlashCounter found a dumb way to collect statistics doesn't mean you have to do something dumber. Dave. LOL but still +1 Beautiful timeless fonts are difficult and to create, you can't just throw them together like that font building website suggests. I think though the original idea was to use the font as a marker (a font not expected to be widely.,..errr..appreciated ... might actually aid in that) - problem I have with that is, although I understand how the ideas comes about, I'm worried it has 'totally misconstrued' written all over it. Placing a marker in the binary distro, just as a marker, so we could setup fly by counting services at some cooperative web sites...think about that for second and how you know some folks would react...it wouldn't be pretty. my .02 worth anyway Drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] New support list suggestion
On 11/19/2010 7:16 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Charles, * Charles Marcus schrieb: I'd really like to see an email support list dedicated solely to questions in the nature of I know how to do this in Excel/Word/Powerpoint, but how do I do it on Calc/Writer/Impress?... I'd rather like to see this in a FAQ - perhaps in a dedicated area or tagged with MSO relation. Linking to other support means (Forum, mailing list etc) should be a must for the FAQ - and new entries should be created easily (perhaps with different stages proposal / approved). Best regards Bernhard Sounds good -- and all the topics from I know how to do this could eventually be used in developing a guide focused on *why* you would use a function, or set of related ones, rather than simply how each function operates. That would also help people coming from other suites or programs. They'd be nice as index entries in Help, etc., also. Most of the material is already documented in one or more places, of course, it's just that we need to get people to it. Another consequence would be a convenient place for translating terminology; what MS calls x is called y in LibO. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Version Numbers?
Le 2010-11-19 19:35, NoOp a écrit : On 11/19/2010 03:26 PM, Sean White wrote: As a concerned user, if LibreOffice is meant a independent office project derived from the OpenOffice code then why do we still use their version numbering system. Wouldn't it be better to start from 1 to reinforce in peoples minds that we are a separate project. Not now. The programme is not very different from OpenOffice. As long as it feels like OpenOffice, I think that calling it version 1 would be a throw back in history. Many folks would think they are much better with OpenOffice... it is at version 3.3, after all. When (if) a new user interface is developed, then it will be very easy to sell that the new LibreOffice 1 is an entirely new program. -- Michel Gagnon Montréal (Québec, Canada) -- http://mgagnon.net -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: Version Numbers?
On 11/19/2010 06:22 PM, Michel Gagnon wrote: Le 2010-11-19 19:35, NoOp a écrit : On 11/19/2010 03:26 PM, Sean White wrote: As a concerned user, if LibreOffice is meant a independent office project derived from the OpenOffice code then why do we still use their version numbering system. Wouldn't it be better to start from 1 to reinforce in peoples minds that we are a separate project. ... I wrote none of that. Please mind your attributions. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Version Numbers?
NoOP is right, I wrote the quoted text. Your explanation is well noted and I can see the reasoning behind it. The sooner we can change the interface and feel of LibreOffice then the better, as I for one don't want such a Oracle aligning feature as version numbers staring me in the face every time I start up my non-proprietary office suite On 11/20/10, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On 11/19/2010 06:22 PM, Michel Gagnon wrote: Le 2010-11-19 19:35, NoOp a écrit : On 11/19/2010 03:26 PM, Sean White wrote: As a concerned user, if LibreOffice is meant a independent office project derived from the OpenOffice code then why do we still use their version numbering system. Wouldn't it be better to start from 1 to reinforce in peoples minds that we are a separate project. ... I wrote none of that. Please mind your attributions. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** -- Sean White, I've Seen the Cow Level -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: Using Tango (was: Re: [tdf-discuss] New Icon theme set)
Hi Cristoph the tango icon theme set is pretty complete, heres their basic icon set http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Library In my opinion, this icon set has greater appeal to the eye, its polished. Its also in the public domain and its developed for open source software. This would be an easy way to improve the aesthetics of the overall application, provide a new fresh look, and support other open source projects. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 3:22 AM, Christoph Noack christoph.no...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hi all! Am Dienstag, den 16.11.2010, 20:27 +1300 schrieb Graham Lauder: I agree the tango set is great however it is already shipped with OOo and LibreO as an option. (ToolsoptionsLibreOffice ViewIcon size and style) However I admit that I would like to see tango as the default. Does anybody know how complete Tango is at the moment? How many missing, or maybe not that matching (in terms of icon metaphor and thus usability) icons left to make it a drop-in replacement? Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.orgdiscuss%2bh...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Version Numbers?
Michel Gagnon schrieb: Not now. I think so, too. Rainer -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
