Re: [steering-discuss] Confused by our Trademark Policy ...

2011-03-16 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Charles,

Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-03-11 14.34:

there's no more formal running vote. We're discussing on what to do
with respect to the TDF trademark itself and the TDF subline. My last
post was asking the following question: If we agree on the TM policy in


I agree, and thanks a lot for drafting and pushing it forward! Just one 
remark: Legally, we should maybe mention Referred to 'TDF' in this 
document, rather than short 'TDF', as the latter one might create the 
impression TDF is our trademark as well, which it isn't.


I also would change widespread use of TDF trademarks to widespread 
use of our trademarks, as the former one might raise the impression 
people should use the TDF subline as much as possible, which they 
shouldn't. This term, TDF trademarks, occurs more often, and probably 
all should be replaced by our trademarks, to make it clear and avoid 
confusion.


We should also add a separate paragraph Contact, where we sum up the 
contact possibilities. In addition to the e-mail address, we should also 
add a fax number. Feel free to use mine, which is currently also 
registered with the trademark office, as I'm the legal representant of 
OOoDeV: +49 8341 99660889 (we will this replace then later on with the 
official TDF fax number)


The sentence Trademarks are not just TDF logos but also the names of 
its various products and projects, as well as the names 
documentfoundation.org and libreoffice.org among others (also called 
word marks), and are collectively referred to as “TDF Trademarks”. is 
wrong. The only thing generally registered as trademark or being filed 
is LibreOffice and The Document Foundation, solely as word mark. No 
logos, no URLs and the like. These can, however, be covered by copyright 
or competition law, and we should add a sentence. Sorry for being so 
touchy here, but in some countries claiming TMs you don't have is even a 
crime.


Legally, we should also avoid saying at the moment that the trademarks 
belong to TDF, as legally, they belong to OOoDeV. However, if this 
policy will be put in place only as soon as the foundation legally 
exists, leave it in the draft. In that case, don't worry about my fax 
number, rather wait until we have our own office or contact point. :-)



general (and I think we do) does the TDF subline and the TDF trademark
need a specific, more restrictive trademark policy OR does the TM
already cover its usage?


It is indeed a bit confusing. In the beginning, we talk about LibO and 
TDF trademarks, but then we have this paragraph: TDF Trademarks should 
be used in their exact form, neither abbreviated nor combined with any 
other word or words. TDF has a set of acceptable logos for general use. 
If you are not sure where they are please inquire on our lists. Only the 
logos that bear the exact mention of the software name with the mention 
“The Document Foundation” are reserved for the sole and official use of 
TDF as an entity, for instance on splash screens from software builds 
compiled by the Document Foundation or DVD labels officially stemming 
from the Document Foundation. You may not use this set of logos but only 
the logos bearing the software name without the Document Foundation's 
mention.


I think Michael raised these concerns already and wanted to legally 
check it. Michael, any results?


Sorry for jumping in so late... although this mail is rather long, I 
think the points addressed are just minor and do not touch the general 
intention of the TM policy. :)


Florian

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Re: [steering-discuss] next SC call on Wednesday

2011-03-16 Thread Andre Schnabel
Hi,

 Original-Nachricht 
 Von: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org
 
 the next Steering Committee phone conference call will be
 
   tomorrow, Wednesday, March 16th
   1800 UTC

Still at the office and not sure if I can make it in time.

So short update on MC:

We are waiting for the TDF website to be migrated to Silverstripe
(at least Christian, Christoph, Florian are working on this). As soon
as this has been done, we will implement a application form (protoype already 
exists). After this has been deone, we can really start the process.

André

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Re: [steering-discuss] next SC call on Wednesday

2011-03-16 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Andre Schnabel wrote on 2011-03-16 17.28:


Still at the office and not sure if I can make it in time.


that's sad to hear, because it would once again leave us with just 4 SC 
members in the call. Given that we have 16 people (8 seats plus 8 
deputies) in the commitee, that's not really that much... :-)


To all the SC: Would it help if we did the calls during the weekend? I 
know that some do not want this, but I would appreciate if we could 
gather at least most of the SC people together during the calls.


Not to blame you, André, I just took your mail as a chance to point this 
out. :-)



We are waiting for the TDF website to be migrated to Silverstripe
(at least Christian, Christoph, Florian are working on this). As soon
as this has been done, we will implement a application form (protoype already 
exists). After this has been deone, we can really start the process.


Ideally, the new site is propagated in DNS already tomorrow. :) Thanks 
Christian!


Florian

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Re: [steering-discuss] next SC call on Wednesday

2011-03-16 Thread sophie

Hi Flo,
On 16/03/2011 19:35, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

[...]

To all the SC: Would it help if we did the calls during the weekend? I 
know that some do not want this, but I would appreciate if we could 
gather at least most of the SC people together during the calls.

For me it would be better and if we can make it earlier too :-)



Not to blame you, André, I just took your mail as a chance to point 
this out. :-)



We are waiting for the TDF website to be migrated to Silverstripe
(at least Christian, Christoph, Florian are working on this). As soon
as this has been done, we will implement a application form (protoype 
already exists). After this has been deone, we can really start the 
process.


Ideally, the new site is propagated in DNS already tomorrow. :) Thanks 
Christian!


Great and thanks a lot Christian!

Kind regards
Sophie


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Re: [steering-discuss] formal vote on Cor Nouws as deputy in the membership committee

2011-03-16 Thread Caolan McNamara
On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 20:57 +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote:
 unavailable for some time. To avoid the membership committee being 
 unable to work during this time, Cor Nouws should serve as her deputy, 
 taking over her responsibility during her time of absence.
 
 A 2/3 majority out of the eight SC members is needed, so please cast 
 your vote now.
 
 For the records: Mine is +1

Sure, +1, I assume this is Sophie's nomination.

C.


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Re: [steering-discuss] formal vote on Cor Nouws as deputy in the membership committee

2011-03-16 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Florian Effenberger wrote:
 To avoid the membership committee being unable to work during this
 time, Cor Nouws should serve as her deputy, taking over her
 responsibility during her time of absence.

+1
 
-- Thorsten

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Re: [tdf-discuss] open remote files in linux

2011-03-16 Thread yahoo-pier_andreit

Il 16/03/2011 06:40, Ercole Carpanetto ha scritto:

On 16 March 2011 00:48, todd rmetoddrme2...@gmail.com  wrote:

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 3:52 PM, yahoo-pier_andreit
pier_andr...@yahoo.it  wrote:

Il 15/03/2011 18:34, todd rme ha scritto:


On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:51 AM, yahoo-pier_andreit
pier_andr...@yahoo.itwrote:


I'm able to open with libreoffice remote files in windows via Winscp
easily.
why I cannot in linux suse 11.3 via sftp://mymachine 
thanks


Are you using KDE or Gnome?

-Todd



KDE 4.4.4 on opensuse 11.3


That may be the problem, KDE uses KIO for browsing network files, and
I am not sure libreoffice properly supports it.  Someone who knows
more can probably say with more certainty.

-Todd


You're right Todd: the only way to open a remote file on KDE is to
mount the network share locally. If you need to reach a file via ssh
you can try sshfs
Ercole
many thanks, mounting with sshfs it works :-)) . As you know is the 
support to KIO in the libo' agenda??


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