[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots

2011-01-08 Thread drew
On Sat, 2011-01-08 at 15:57 +0300, sophie wrote:
 Hi all,
 On 08/01/2011 15:48, David Nelson wrote:
  Hi, :-)
 
  I need some more sample files with which I can produce screenshots for
  the libreoffice.org, from *all* the LibO apps.
 
  If you have LibO files (from Writer, Calc and Impress) that contain
  attractively-presented content that is not copyrighted, please mail
  them to me ASAP.
 
  If you have any well-presented equations for Math, I need some more too.
 
  Similarly, if you have any databases for Base with well-peopled
  tables, and with forms and reports, I need them, too.
 In English and not under Windows, please :-)

Windowsarrrgh - ok. *smile*

@David - is there a particular size you want?


  Thanks for any help. ;-)
 +1
+1



-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org
Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/
*** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***


[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots

2011-01-08 Thread sophie

Hi David,
On 08/01/2011 16:19, David Nelson wrote:

Hi Drew, :-)

Guy I need sample FILES not screenshots. I'll do all screenshots
myself in a uniform manner

And Sophie, sorry, but they *will* be under Windows, not Linux, even
though I'm a full-time Linux user myself, because *most* people use
Windows and I don't want people thinking LibreOffice is some kind of
marginal, geek product.
There is some legal reasons for not having them under Windows, from what 
I remember you're not allowed to make screenshots of Windows product, 
this is noted on their website.

You can make the skin of your Linux looks like Windows and you're safe :-)


TIA for any good data files you got. IN ENGLISH.

The difficult part for me ;-) If they are in English, they are not mine :)
Kind regards
Sophie


--
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org
Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/
*** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***


[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots

2011-01-08 Thread David Nelson
Hi Drew, :-)

Or, if you feel able to help out by taking screenshots yourself, then:

a) a big thanks for the helping hand! ;-)

b) take them under MS Windows using a DARK SLATE GRAY theme (window frame, etc)
(I fail to believe that Bill is going to sue us because we took
screenshots of our own product under MS Windows...)

c) take the *window only* - no desktop

d) 400px wide by 300px tall - please try not to stretch/squash the proportions

e) Anything up to a dozen good shots from each app is what I'm hoping
to accumulate in each app, demo the ke features: in Writer,
tables, indexes, etc. I'm sure you see what I mean

Just mail me whatever you got, whatever you can, when you can, and -
once again - a *big* thanks :-D

David Nelson




On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 21:32, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:
 On Sat, 2011-01-08 at 21:19 +0800, David Nelson wrote:
 Hi Drew, :-)

 Guy I need sample FILES not screenshots. I'll do all screenshots
 myself in a uniform manner


 Ok, most of what I have does not use embedded database files, but I have
 a few of those also.

 Will send a these direct to your email account.

 Ciao,

 Drew






 --
 Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org
 List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/
 *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***


-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org
Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/
*** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***



[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots

2011-01-08 Thread sophie

Hi David, Drew,
On 08/01/2011 16:45, David Nelson wrote:

Hi Drew, :-)

Or, if you feel able to help out by taking screenshots yourself, then:

a) a big thanks for the helping hand! ;-)

b) take them under MS Windows using a DARK SLATE GRAY theme (window frame, etc)
(I fail to believe that Bill is going to sue us because we took
screenshots of our own product under MS Windows...)

Sorry to insist but I don't want to take the risk :
This is what is written on the site :*
Requirements for Allowed Uses*

For permission to be granted for any uses allowed by these guidelines, 
you must comply with the following four requirements:


  1.

 If your use includes references to a Microsoft product, you must
 use the full name of the product. When referencing any Microsoft
 trademarks, follow the General Microsoft Trademark Guidelines
 
http://www.microsoft.com/About/Legal/EN/US/IntellectualProperty/Trademarks/Default.aspx.

  2.

 You must include the following statement: Used with permission
 from Microsoft.

  3.

 Your use may not be obscene or pornographic, and you may not be
 disparaging, defamatory, or libelous to Microsoft, any of its
 products, or any other person or entity.

  4.

 You may link to Microsoft content by using either a plain text
 link with words such as This way to Microsoft.com or by
 participating in an applicable Link Logo program. No other images
 may be used as a link to a Microsoft site.

Screen Shots

You may not use screen shots of Microsoft product boot-up screens, 
opening screens, splash screens, or screens from beta release products 
or other products that have not been commercially released. You may use 
other screen shots in advertising, in documentation (including 
educational brochures), in tutorial books, in videotapes, or on Web 
sites, provided that, in addition to the requirements above, you:


  1.

 Do not alter the screen shot except to resize it.

  2.

 Do not use portions of screen shots.

  3.

 Do not include screen shots in your product user interface.

  4.

 Do not use screen shots that contain third-party content.

  5.

 Do not use screen shots that contain an image of an identifiable
 individual.


So it is clear that you're not allowed to take screenshots showing LibO 
on a Windows system. And I don't find very sexy to add on each Used 
with permission from Microsoft


As said you can adapt the LibO theme and your Linux them to look more 
Windows like and everything will be ok. This is what we have done for 
years for OOo and guess what, we have sell several copy of it ;-)


Kind regards
Sophie


--
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org
Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/
*** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***


[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots

2011-01-08 Thread David Nelson
Hi Sophie, :-)

Truthfully, your interpretation of what that text refers to is
erroneous... they are talking of screenshots of Microsoft products
such as MS Windows or Office, but *not* of screenshots taken of other
people's products and works simply running under MS Windows... There's
no need to worry. You see screenshots of software running under
Windows *all over the Internet*... ;-) We're perfectly safe. ;-)

In any case, I already took a large number of screenshots, and our
documentation is *full* of screenshots taken under Windows, so this
would involve an *enormous* amount of work to rectify.. ;-)

David Nelson

-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org
Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/
*** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***



[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots

2011-01-08 Thread David Nelson
Hi Drew, all, ;-)

 if you feel able to help out by taking screenshots yourself, then:

 a) a big thanks for the helping hand! ;-)

 b) take them under MS Windows using a DARK SLATE GRAY theme (window frame, 
 etc)
 (I fail to believe that Bill is going to sue us because we took
 screenshots of our own product under MS Windows...)

 c) take the *window only* - no desktop

 d) 400px wide by 300px tall - please try not to stretch/squash the proportions

 e) Anything up to a dozen good shots from each app is what I'm hoping
 to accumulate in each app, demo the ke features: in Writer,
 tables, indexes, etc. I'm sure you see what I mean

 Just mail me whatever you got, whatever you can, when you can, and -
 once again - a *big* thanks :-D

So, once again, my need is the above. ;-)

-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org
Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/
*** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***



[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots

2011-01-08 Thread David Nelson
Hi Fabian, Drew, all, :-)

 if you feel able to help out by taking screenshots yourself, then:

 a) a big thanks for the helping hand! ;-)

 b) take them under MS Windows using a DARK SLATE GRAY theme (window frame, 
 etc)
(or if you really want to use Linux, a theme that closely resembles the 
 above)

 c) take the *window only* - no desktop

 d) 400px wide by 300px tall - please try not to stretch/squash the 
 proportions

 e) Anything up to a dozen good shots from each app is what I'm hoping
 to accumulate in each app, demo the ke features: in Writer,
 tables, indexes, etc. I'm sure you see what I mean
 (that would ideally be a total of 60 to 70 screenshots of the 6 products?
 but you best effort will be gratefully accepted... ;-)

 Just mail me whatever you got, whatever you can, when you can, and -
 once again - a *big* thanks :-D

Or, please just send me sample documents that I can use. ;-)

David Nelson

-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org
Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/
*** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***



[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots

2011-01-08 Thread Sophie Gautier

Hi David,
On 08/01/2011 17:54, David Nelson wrote:

Hi Sophie, :-)

Truthfully, your interpretation of what that text refers to is
erroneous... they are talking of screenshots of Microsoft products
such as MS Windows or Office, but *not* of screenshots taken of other
people's products and works simply running under MS Windows... There's
no need to worry. You see screenshots of software running under
Windows *all over the Internet*... ;-) We're perfectly safe. ;-)


No, it's not my interpretation (I know I may not have a full 
understanding of another language :), we never get a firm statement but 
only different interpretations from lawyers, this is why we have decided 
to not use screen shots made using Windows. I can't remember where the 
discussions occurs on the OOo site, maybe website list, I'll point you 
to the archives otherwise.


It may sound stupid, but can you imagine that I had to declare people 
using ssh for the OOoFR site in France several years ago because the 
encryption we used was not allowed and considered as a security issue. 
I'm sure the Debian contributors never have to do so. Just to say that 
we have to be cautious.


In any case, I already took a large number of screenshots, and our
documentation is *full* of screenshots taken under Windows, so this
would involve an *enormous* amount of work to rectify.. ;-)


Yes may be, but it's not a sufficient reason to continue to take the 
risk :). The more we are visible and known, the more we are exposed.


Kind regards
Sophie
--
Founding member of The Document Foundation

--
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org
Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/
*** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***


[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots

2011-01-08 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-)

To restate the need...

I need some more sample files with which I can produce screenshots for
the libreoffice.org, from *all* the LibO apps.

If you have LibO files (from Writer, Calc and Impress) that contain
attractively-presented content that is not copyrighted, please mail
them to me ASAP.

If you have any well-presented equations for Math, I need some more too.

Similarly, if you have any databases for Base with well-peopled
tables, and with forms and reports, I need them, too.

Or, if you feel able to help out by taking screenshots yourself, then:

a) a big thanks for the helping hand! ;-)

b) take them using a theme that closely resembles MS Windows
using a DARK SLATE GRAY theme (window frame, etc)

c) take the *window only* - no desktop

d) 400px wide by 300px tall - please try not to stretch/squash the proportions

e) Anything up to a dozen good shots from each app is what I'm hoping
to accumulate in each app, demo the ke features: in Writer,
tables, indexes, etc. I'm sure you see what I mean

f) The file you use for taking the screenshot should ideally be called
sample.odt (or whatever extension)

Just mail me whatever you got, whatever you can, when you can, and -
once again - a *big* thanks :-D

-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org
Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/
*** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***