[tdf-discuss] Re: EPS images in ODF documents
I have made two test files with the kind of EPS images I work with. I put the test together with OOo in the ODT document and then printed a PDF file of that document with CUPS-PDF; I hope I managed to upload and attach them here properly. With the files I want to show my problem and that is the poor quality of the EPS images in the ODT document. The resulting PDF file is on the contrary very good; it is e.g. better than if I had made the original document in DOC format in Microsoft Word. But the ODT file that I work with when writing my texts and books has such poor EPS illustrations that I cannot rely on them for quick controls of what they contain. Regards, Magnus http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n2396161/EPS_Image_Test_1.odt EPS_Image_Test_1.odt http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n2396161/EPS_Image_Test_1.pdf EPS_Image_Test_1.pdf -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/EPS-images-in-ODF-documents-tp2378450p2396161.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: EPS images in ODF documents
Magnus , Your document contains EPS images with a lowres preview. OO or LO shows only this preview.The poor quality is due to the lowres (72x72) pixels per inch. OO or LO can NOT show eps images. Ok, so far the bad news, if you want to see hig quality in your LO doc , then you need to transfer the pictures to the OO-draw-vector format and copy from there to your Writzer Doc. open your picture with Gview ( Opensource) Convert in Gview to EPS, save. Open the new saved EPS in OO-draw and copy the picture from draw into your Writer Document When now making a PDF you will see that some parts of your picture (text and notations) have a lower quality than the original EPS output. You can also following a other work flow, with no loss of quality. Start opening your orginal pictures in Gview, export a to a pixel format, who has better results in your Writer Doc. Insert this pixelformats as linked file in your writer doc. Befor printing, change your pixelformat_link to the original epsfile_link ( can ealy been done with a macro when using some naming conventions) Hope it helps a bit Fernand I have made two test files with the kind of EPS images I work with. I put the test together with OOo in the ODT document and then printed a PDF file of that document with CUPS-PDF; I hope I managed to upload and attach them here properly. With the files I want to show my problem and that is the poor quality of the EPS images in the ODT document. The resulting PDF file is on the contrary very good; it is e.g. better than if I had made the original document in DOC format in Microsoft Word. But the ODT file that I work with when writing my texts and books has such poor EPS illustrations that I cannot rely on them for quick controls of what they contain. Regards, Magnus http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n2396161/EPS_Image_Test_1.odt EPS_Image_Test_1.odt http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n2396161/EPS_Image_Test_1.pdf EPS_Image_Test_1.pdf -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: EPS images in ODF documents
Magnus , No programmer skils needed here: - dowload GSview - open a EPS picture with GSview - Change the MEDIA Diplay settings to 500 dpi and use 24 bits/pixel - goto FILE and convert PS to EPS who ask for a new file name (the helpinfo explains the whole thing) - trie to import the new file in LO and check the difference in Previeuw quality when not OK then trie other Display settings Hope it helps Fernand Fernand: when the PDF is made with the Postscript output, then it's using the vector graphic parts of the picture not the preview! OK, I see; then I would simply like to request a better preview. I understand the file size of the ODT document goes up, but I would prefer that instead of the current situation. It would be interesting to find out how small an improvement in preview resolution would yield an enough good result for me. Are you a programmer, Fernand? May I ask you to look into this? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: EPS images in ODF documents
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Magnus Johansson e.m.johans...@spray.se wrote: OK, Fernand; thanks. But do you mean that I shall go through the four steps, after downloading and installing GSview, every time I insert a music example in an ODT document? Wouldn't it be much better if a preview settings feature was implemented in LO itself? I also want to re-iterate that this only helps when printing to PDF. If you try to use an EPS file in a presentation this, at best, defeats the whole purpose of using an EPS file in the first place (and at worst doesn't work, which is the current situation). -Todd -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: EPS images in ODF documents
I also want to re-iterate that this only helps when printing to PDF. But getting good printing to PDF is currently not a problem. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/EPS-images-in-ODF-documents-tp2378450p2401532.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: EPS images in ODF documents
On 02/01/2011 01:44 AM, Magnus Johansson wrote: I have made two test files with the kind of EPS images I work with. I put the test together with OOo in the ODT document and then printed a PDF file of that document with CUPS-PDF; I hope I managed to upload and attach them here properly. With the files I want to show my problem and that is the poor quality of the EPS images in the ODT document. The resulting PDF file is on the contrary very good; it is e.g. better than if I had made the original document in DOC format in Microsoft Word. But the ODT file that I work with when writing my texts and books has such poor EPS illustrations that I cannot rely on them for quick controls of what they contain. Regards, Magnus http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n2396161/EPS_Image_Test_1.odt EPS_Image_Test_1.odt http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n2396161/EPS_Image_Test_1.pdf EPS_Image_Test_1.pdf Post the eps file that you used. I wonder just what version of MS Word you are using that does such a better job. Certainly not MSO Word 2003 as importing an eps into that results in the same as OOo 3.3 or LO 3.3. I did several tests using a .ps file from http://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/make-table.cgi?collection=bachengpreview=1 http://www.mutopiaproject.org/ftp/BachJS/BWV807/bach-english-suite-2-bourree-2/bach-english-suite-2-bourree-2-let.ps.gz and converted the file to eps using Scribus. Of course the print to pdf renders the converted .eps just fine. The MSO Word 2003 file didn't render the eps any better than OOo or LO. If you'd like to explore further then I suggest (again) that you start a new thread over on the users list as that's a better list to troubleshoot things like this. Further, if you do so I'll be happy to swap screenshots as well. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: EPS images in ODF documents
See my response at http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/EPS-images-in-ODT-documents-td2369889.html. I deleted the original post in this thread and replaced it with the one in the link, but it seems not to have worked. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/EPS-images-in-ODF-documents-tp2378450p2382786.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: EPS images in ODF documents
Thank you, Fernand, for your reply. However, I have not been able to get better EPS images by printing to a PDF file. The problem is not coupled to PDF export, although OOo's built-in PDF export is not very good either. The problem is the poor quality of the inserted EPS images in the actual ODT document, both on screen and on print-out. Regarding using another format than EPS: For image creation I use an application that can only export to EPS. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/EPS-images-in-ODF-documents-tp2378450p2382819.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: EPS images in ODF documents
On 01/30/2011 09:47 AM, skrifaði Magnus Johansson: Thank you, Fernand, for your reply. However, I have not been able to get better EPS images by printing to a PDF file. The problem is not coupled to PDF export, although OOo's built-in PDF export is not very good either. The problem is the poor quality of the inserted EPS images in the actual ODT document, both on screen and on print-out. Regarding using another format than EPS: For image creation I use an application that can only export to EPS. Magnus, Your EPS-files, are they mostly vector graphics or bitmapped ? EPS can act as a container for both, but with different best practices (Fernand described what I'd do if I had an EPS with a high-res TIFF, vector content is another story). Best regards Sveinn í Felli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: EPS images in ODF documents
Le 30/01/2011 10:47, Magnus Johansson a écrit : Thank you, Fernand, for your reply. However, I have not been able to get better EPS images by printing to a PDF file. The problem is not coupled to PDF export, although OOo's built-in PDF export is not very good either. The problem is the poor quality of the inserted EPS images in the actual ODT document, both on screen and on print-out. Regarding using another format than EPS: For image creation I use an application that can only export to EPS. Hi, PDF export of EPS images exports the preview. If you want a good result you may want insert an high resolution preview in your EPS image. Using linked pictures instead of inserted pictures make easier to work with low resolution previews during edition and high resolution preview when your doc is finished and you want make a beautiful pdf. Try that: Defines two sets of EPS pictures, one with low resolution preview and the second with high resolution. Make a symbolic link to the first one with a generic name. Link yours EPS images using the path to the symbolic link. To have high resolution preview in your doc, remake the symbolic link to the second one and reload your doc. Best regards JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: EPS images in ODF documents
Halló Sveinn, and thanks for your reply. I don't know if my EPS images are vector graphics or bitmapped. How can I find out? -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/EPS-images-in-ODF-documents-tp2378450p2383255.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: EPS images in ODF documents
Salut Jean-Baptiste, and thank you for your response. How do I insert a high resolution preview in my EPS images? I do not know how to manipulate the EPS files themselves, I just insert the result I get from the other program into OOo and the ODT document. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/EPS-images-in-ODF-documents-tp2378450p2383293.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: EPS images in ODF documents
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Magnus Johansson e.m.johans...@spray.se wrote: Salut Jean-Baptiste, and thank you for your response. How do I insert a high resolution preview in my EPS images? I do not know how to manipulate the EPS files themselves, I just insert the result I get from the other program into OOo and the ODT document. This is particularly necessary in impress, since printing to a pdf is not really an option. -Todd -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: EPS images in ODF documents
Le 2011-01-30 07:10, Magnus Johansson a écrit : Salut Jean-Baptiste, and thank you for your response. How do I insert a high resolution preview in my EPS images? I do not know how to manipulate the EPS files themselves, I just insert the result I get from the other program into OOo and the ODT document. Magnus, All eps files are not created equal, so it's hard to find a single software that would open all eps files and do wonders with it. What eps softwares do you have access to? In the free world, Gimp will do wonders with the few eps files it opens successfully. For a more universal conversion, you could try Illustrator or Photoshop ($$$). All these will convert your file in a tiff or jpeg file at the resolution you want. Do it at 150-300 dpi and you will get great printouts. I haven't tried LibreOffice on that, but OpenOffice 3.2.x didn't work well, on Windows, with eps files that have patterns or fonts in them. -- Michel Gagnon – mic...@mgagnon.net mailto:mic...@mgagnon.net Montréal (Québec, Canada) – mgagnon.net http://mgagnon.net -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: EPS images in ODF documents
Many times I successfully converted/fixed problematic eps files using inkscape: they are opened as vector graphics and you can modify them and export to almost any format (eps included...) 2011/1/30 Michel Gagnon mic...@mgagnon.net: Le 2011-01-30 07:10, Magnus Johansson a écrit : Salut Jean-Baptiste, and thank you for your response. How do I insert a high resolution preview in my EPS images? I do not know how to manipulate the EPS files themselves, I just insert the result I get from the other program into OOo and the ODT document. Magnus, All eps files are not created equal, so it's hard to find a single software that would open all eps files and do wonders with it. What eps softwares do you have access to? In the free world, Gimp will do wonders with the few eps files it opens successfully. For a more universal conversion, you could try Illustrator or Photoshop ($$$). All these will convert your file in a tiff or jpeg file at the resolution you want. Do it at 150-300 dpi and you will get great printouts. I haven't tried LibreOffice on that, but OpenOffice 3.2.x didn't work well, on Windows, with eps files that have patterns or fonts in them. -- Michel Gagnon – mic...@mgagnon.net mailto:mic...@mgagnon.net Montréal (Québec, Canada) – mgagnon.net http://mgagnon.net -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: EPS images in ODF documents
Le 30/01/2011 13:10, Magnus Johansson a écrit : Salut Jean-Baptiste, and thank you for your response. How do I insert a high resolution preview in my EPS images? I do not know how to manipulate the EPS files themselves, I just insert the result I get from the other program into OOo and the ODT document. Hi Magnus, Here is a script I did for Linux to convert a PS into a EPS file and include a preview in this EPS. #conversion d'un ensemble de fichiers ps en eps #addition d'une image de prévisualisation dans les fichiers eps créés # conversion ps - eps ls *.ps list for i in `cat list` do echo \ traitement de $i ps2eps -f -R + $i done exit #addition de la preview en 72 et 600 dpi ls *.eps list #exemple : epstool -t6p --dpi 600 *.eps ../eps_files/ for i in `cat list` do echo \ traitement de $i epstool -t6p --dpi 72 $i ./images_72/$i epstool -t6p --dpi 600 $i ./images_600/$i done Best regards. JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: EPS images in ODF documents
On 01/30/2011 04:01 AM, Magnus Johansson wrote: Halló Sveinn, and thanks for your reply. I don't know if my EPS images are vector graphics or bitmapped. How can I find out? This discussion is probably better over on the libereoffice user list - that way you might find more answers. I've had success importing an .eps (it was originally an .svg that was exported to .eps from Inkscape). If you can save a few pages of your document and send to me directly I'll be happy to test in LO Stable (RC4) and OOo 3.3.0 on linux WinXP and Win7. I can also test with OOo3.2.1 on linux (I'm not sure if I have any OOo3.2.x in the archives for Win). Send to glgxg @ sbcglobal.net (note: I'll most likely not respond until tomorrow (my time). Gary Added note: I can post the eps file that I used for testing, but think that this should be on the user list rather than the discuss list. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
