Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Suppression of Blank Lines in Addresses in Labels and Envelopes from Data Base
On 09/02/2011 19:14, Cor Nouws wrote: Hi Alan, Alan Reeve wrote (09-02-11 15:47) Thanks for your response. So far as I can see, the problem does not lie in Base but within the Text Document (Writer) modules. The address line suppression should form part of the Print from Base window in Text Document after you have inserted fields from your database. Though (if I see it correct) not your initial question, I give some related info. You probably are aware that it is possible to put a conditional Hidden paragraph field in the paragraphs? Not so convenient, I agree, but it can be done. Note: when inserting such a field, be sure that the various mail merge fields are in a separate paragraph. When fields are inserted via the dialog for Labels, they are at separate lines, but in one paragraph. You have to correct that in the document. Also: looking at the window Fields, tab Database, there is a field Condition left at the bottom. I can be used when entering a Next record field, however not with a Mail merge field. That looks as a 'relatively easy' way for such an enhancement. HTH, regards, Cor My reason for raising this subject is because, surely, we cannot expect typical office people who are not very conversant with computers to try to set up Conditional statements. The technique needed is quite abstruse and it is totally unforgiving and I am afraid that only a person with a reasonable degree of computer knowledge will attempt it.. I understand how to do it and do not personally have a problem with suppressing blank address lines, apart from extra complexity, but you must agree that many people are transferring to Libre Office from M$ Word, where the ability to suppress blank lines by checking a tick box has been available for some years. Come on people, surely somebody has the skills to run with this hare! Or is it not challenging enough? Alan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Suppression of Blank Lines in Addresses in Labels and Envelopes from Data Base
On 09/02/2011 16:16, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-02-09 9:28 AM, Alan Reeve wrote: On 09/02/2011 12:05, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-02-09 6:12 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: As to your bug correction request, you would be better off filing a bug report at freedesktop.org, which is where TDF has decided that all such reports should be filed, or even better still with Oracle. And/or the Openoffice bug tracker (shudder)... Thank you for your suggestion. I requested OOo to improve this about 18 months ago On their email list? Or did you open an actual bug/feature request? and guess what Wouldn't surprise me that it was ignored even if you did do it via the bug tracker, but if you didn't, then there is NO way it will every get done... and same goes for LibO - you have to open an actual trackable request, not just send an email... Hi there Thanks for comments. Yes, I did follow all the OOo procedures. But nothing happened. FYI, the OOo track was: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107476 Alan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Suppression of Blank Lines in Addresses in Labels and Envelopes from Data Base
On 2011-02-09 6:12 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: As to your bug correction request, you would be better off filing a bug report at freedesktop.org, which is where TDF has decided that all such reports should be filed, or even better still with Oracle. And/or the Openoffice bug tracker (shudder)... -- Best regards, Charles -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Suppression of Blank Lines in Addresses in Labels and Envelopes from Data Base
On 09/02/2011 12:05, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-02-09 6:12 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: As to your bug correction request, you would be better off filing a bug report at freedesktop.org, which is where TDF has decided that all such reports should be filed, or even better still with Oracle. And/or the Openoffice bug tracker (shudder)... Thank you for your suggestion. I requested OOo to improve this about 18 months ago and guess what Alan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Suppression of Blank Lines in Addresses in Labels and Envelopes from Data Base
On 09/02/2011 11:12, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 09/02/11 11:49, Alan Reeve a écrit : Hi Alan, As there has been no response, can I ask if I have put my request into the wrong forum or are there too many other organisational problems being addressed presently? I would say, Yes and Yes to both those questions, whilst qualifying the second as too many other bugs to hunt down and sort out which are not related to Base. The Base module has, as far as I know, and I would gladly stand corrected, no specifically assigned experienced developer / programmer which knows the Base module well enough to deal with these problems. Add to that the fact that many of the current bugs are actually present in OOo 3.3.0, i.e. introduced by the OOo development team, then it is likely considered a waste of resources for the LibO team to deal with something that may, possibly, get handled by Oracle. As to your bug correction request, you would be better off filing a bug report at freedesktop.org, which is where TDF has decided that all such reports should be filed, or even better still with Oracle. Alex Hi Alex Thanks for your response. So far as I can see, the problem does not lie in Base but within the Text Document (Writer) modules. The address line suppression should form part of the Print from Base window in Text Document after you have inserted fields from your database. The Writer program responds with the wording Your document contains database address fields. do you want to print a form letter? When you respond Yes, then a further box comes up with the database selected and just asks you to confirm whether you wish to send the files to Printer or File. I have hesitated to show this as a bug, because the program is not wrong, it just does not do enough. Is that a bug? Alan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Suppression of Blank Lines in Addresses in Labels and Envelopes from Data Base
Alan Reeve wrote: On 09/02/2011 12:05, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-02-09 6:12 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: As to your bug correction request, you would be better off filing a bug report at freedesktop.org, which is where TDF has decided that all such reports should be filed, or even better still with Oracle. And/or the Openoffice bug tracker (shudder)... Thank you for your suggestion. I requested OOo to improve this about 18 months ago and guess what Alan As I have come to understand it, this is one of the most important reasons for the OOo/LO fork. Corporate management is who decides which bugs get exterminated, and which are ignored with corporate supported OOo. With LO, it becomes more of a case of if a volunteer developer/programmer gets annoyed by a bug, or enough users complain about it, it gets fixed. I myself only use Writer, if I get time I might use Base to make a database of my DVD movie collection, but I am not likely to use any of the other modules. As a very heavy user of Writer, I make extensive use of word completion, but I have known for years that this feature could be much better with a few small changes like, a few choices in its control menu, like have a PERMANENT dictionary where gather words could be turned off, and the program would use a permanent dictionary, or a change where strings containing all caps, punctuation marks other than ' apostrophe (in English) or numerals would never be added to the completion dictionary. I have seen several improvements to this feature over the years, but never really important ones. One really BIG improvement that needs to be made is so that upgrades consist of patches rather than complete replacement of the program. This would be a HUGE improvement for all those people who do not have access to high-speed internet connections. It is because of the extreme inconvenience of such upgrading methods that I choose to only upgrade for MAJOR upgrades like when LO 4.0 comes out. I just don't think it is worth all the trouble for incremental upgrades like from 3.2 to 3.3. Note: I know that the use of all caps is considered bad form, but I find that many email systems can't properly handle boldface. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
