Re: [jQuery] Get the Firebug 1.0 Beta!

2006-12-04 Thread Paul Bakaus

Update: It's on the main page, my page was just cached *dooh*! get it!

2006/12/4, Paul Bakaus [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Hi guys,

great news from Joe! Firebug 1.0 is now in open beta, everyone should be
able to download it from getfirebug.com today later on (read the blog
post). I'll stay idle pressing F5 until the link is there ;-)

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Re: [jQuery] Get the Firebug 1.0 Beta!

2006-12-04 Thread Clodelio C. Delfino
Thanks Paul for the news...downloading now.. c,)

On 12/4/06, Paul Bakaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Update: It's on the main page, my page was just cached *dooh*! get it!

 2006/12/4, Paul Bakaus [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Hi guys,
 
  great news from Joe! Firebug 1.0 is now in open beta, everyone should be
 able to download it from getfirebug.com today later on (read the blog post).
 I'll stay idle pressing F5 until the link is there ;-)
 
  -Paul
 
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Re: [jQuery] Get the Firebug 1.0 Beta!

2006-12-04 Thread Sam Collett
It's remaining open source too, which will probably please some people.

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Re: [jQuery] Get the Firebug 1.0 Beta!

2006-12-04 Thread Rey Bango
Yep! I went ahead and sent Joe $50 simply because I think that this 
plugin is one of the best of the lot. And the new features are outstanding.

Rey...

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Re: [jQuery] Get the Firebug 1.0 Beta!

2006-12-04 Thread Paul Bakaus

Absolutely Rey...I almost had tears in my eyes when I tested the new Firebug
earlier today, especially the box level layouting and the css editing/line
disabling...

I would not have had any problems spending some 100$ for this extension, I
know it will save my a lot of time.

2006/12/4, Rey Bango [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Yep! I went ahead and sent Joe $50 simply because I think that this
plugin is one of the best of the lot. And the new features are
outstanding.

Rey...

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Re: [jQuery] Get the Firebug 1.0 Beta!

2006-12-04 Thread Rey Bango
I have seen that yet Paul but what totally made me want to hug Joe was 
the page performance tab (called Net)! Thats just awesome man. Now I can 
see whats causing any delays in my page loads.

No more external apps sitting out there to get this info!

Rey...

Paul Bakaus wrote:
 Absolutely Rey...I almost had tears in my eyes when I tested the new 
 Firebug earlier today, especially the box level layouting and the css 
 editing/line disabling...
 
 I would not have had any problems spending some 100$ for this extension, 
 I know it will save my a lot of time.
 
 2006/12/4, Rey Bango [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Yep! I went ahead and sent Joe $50 simply because I think that this
 plugin is one of the best of the lot. And the new features are
 outstanding.
 
 Rey...
 
 Sam Collett wrote:
   It's remaining open source too, which will probably please some
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Re: [jQuery] Get the Firebug 1.0 Beta!

2006-12-04 Thread Dan Atkinson

Cheers!

It's looking sweet!

Paul Bakaus wrote:
 
 Hi guys,
 
 great news from Joe! Firebug 1.0 is now in open beta, everyone should be
 able to download it from getfirebug.com today later on (read the blog
 post).
 I'll stay idle pressing F5 until the link is there ;-)
 
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Re: [jQuery] Get the Firebug 1.0 Beta!

2006-12-04 Thread digital spaghetti
I could only afford $10 just now, but the improvements are well worth
it.  Everyone who uses it should donate at least $5, it's an excellent
extension and should be supported.


Tane
http://digitalspaghetti.me.uk

On 12/4/06, Rey Bango [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yep! I went ahead and sent Joe $50 simply because I think that this
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 Rey...

 Sam Collett wrote:
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Re: [jQuery] Get the Firebug 1.0 Beta!

2006-12-04 Thread Sam Sherlock

I am happy to donate but will only really use it if it works with xhtml
which currently causes it to crash firefox

I recall reading somewhere that it this is a current issue / flaw /
drawback.

does anyone if this is to be resolved or has anyone found a work around?

On 04/12/06, digital spaghetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I could only afford $10 just now, but the improvements are well worth
it.  Everyone who uses it should donate at least $5, it's an excellent
extension and should be supported.


Tane
http://digitalspaghetti.me.uk

On 12/4/06, Rey Bango [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yep! I went ahead and sent Joe $50 simply because I think that this
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outstanding.

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 Sam Collett wrote:
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Re: [jQuery] Get the Firebug 1.0 Beta!

2006-12-04 Thread Rey Bango
Tane,

$10 is awesome bud. Every bit helps out Joe and hopefully he continues 
to improve this.

Rey...

digital spaghetti wrote:
 I could only afford $10 just now, but the improvements are well worth
 it.  Everyone who uses it should donate at least $5, it's an excellent
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 On 12/4/06, Rey Bango [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Yep! I went ahead and sent Joe $50 simply because I think that this
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Rey...

Sam Collett wrote:

It's remaining open source too, which will probably please some people.

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Re: [jQuery] Get the Firebug 1.0 Beta!

2006-12-04 Thread Mike Alsup
 I am happy to donate but will only really use it if it works with xhtml
 which currently causes it to crash firefox

Huh?  I only write xhtml and I've been using Firebug since it was
first available.  I've not had any problems.

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Re: [jQuery] Get the Firebug 1.0 Beta!

2006-12-04 Thread Klaus Hartl
Mike Alsup schrieb:
 I am happy to donate but will only really use it if it works with xhtml
 which currently causes it to crash firefox
 
 Huh?  I only write xhtml and I've been using Firebug since it was
 first available.  I've not had any problems.


Hey Mike, as long as you don't serve XHTML as XML it's just HTML with 
some weird slashes where they don't belong to.


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Re: [jQuery] Get the Firebug 1.0 Beta!

2006-12-04 Thread Mike Alsup
 Hey Mike, as long as you don't serve XHTML as XML it's just HTML with
 some weird slashes where they don't belong to.

Yep, I thought that's what Sam was talking about.  But maybe he was
referring to XML.

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Re: [jQuery] Get the Firebug 1.0 Beta!

2006-12-04 Thread Felix Geisendörfer


Huh?  I only write xhtml and I've been using Firebug since it was
first available.  I've not had any problems.
Just a guess: But he is probably talking about XHTML served with the 
correct mime type. What you are doing probably ends up beeing HTML 4.01 
tag soup that happens to look like XHTML ; ). I don't have a link right 
now, but there is plenty of information about this topic out there. The 
basic message is that an XHTML doctype does not cause (any) browser to 
render the contents of a page as XHTML. Only sending the correct mime 
type (via php or some other server side technology) does that. The 
reason very few people are doing this is that IE 6 (not sure about 7) 
does not support XHTML at all.


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Mike Alsup wrote:

I am happy to donate but will only really use it if it works with xhtml
which currently causes it to crash firefox



Huh?  I only write xhtml and I've been using Firebug since it was
first available.  I've not had any problems.

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Re: [jQuery] Get the Firebug 1.0 Beta!

2006-12-04 Thread Aaron Heimlich

On 12/4/06, Felix Geisendörfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Just a guess: But he is probably talking about XHTML served with the
correct mime type. What you are doing probably ends up beeing HTML 4.01tag soup 
that happens to look like XHTML ; ). I don't have a link right now,
but there is plenty of information about this topic out there.



Here's some links to get you started:

No to XHTML - Spartanicus' Web tips[1]
SitePoint Forums - XHTML vs HTML FAQ[2]
Sufin' Safari -- Understanding HTML, XML and XHTML[3]
SitePoint Forums - Frequently Asked Questions about HTML[4]

[1]http://www.spartanicus.utvinternet.ie/no-xhtml.htm
[2]http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=393445
[3]http://webkit.org/blog/?p=68
[4]http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=428205
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Re: [jQuery] Get the Firebug 1.0 Beta!

2006-12-04 Thread Sam Sherlock

Basically when I installed firebug 1, I felt like a kid on Christmas
morning.  However when I enabled it firefox crashed on a wordpress site on
my localhost.  I restarted firefox again and enabled it again.

It did not crash when I enabled it on a html4 site  eg

  - www.linkdup.com - works fine
  - www.getk2.com - crashes when firebug is enabled


I have found the comment on Joe's Blog to which I was referring here is:

JohnH


BTW, I noted that you rather cavalielry[sp?] (from my POV) state that it
doesn't work with synchronous calls or XHTML. If it's free I'm prepared to
work around that by temporarily disabling both. However that's kind of a big
glaring hole in my mind and would defenitely stop me shelling out a required
$25.



I thought of the comment (above) made by JohnH, and thought that to be the
reason.  getk2 is served as text/html


perhaps I am missing something, if so I would love to know what.

any ideas??

-S





On 04/12/06, Felix Geisendörfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Huh?  I only write xhtml and I've been using Firebug since it was
first available.  I've not had any problems.

 Just a guess: But he is probably talking about XHTML served with the
correct mime type. What you are doing probably ends up beeing HTML 4.01tag soup 
that happens to look like XHTML ; ). I don't have a link right now,
but there is plenty of information about this topic out there. The basic
message is that an XHTML doctype does not cause (any) browser to render the
contents of a page as XHTML. Only sending the correct mime type (via php or
some other server side technology) does that. The reason very few people are
doing this is that IE 6 (not sure about 7) does not support XHTML at all.

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Mike Alsup wrote:

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first available.  I've not had any problems.

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Re: [jQuery] Get the Firebug 1.0 Beta!

2006-12-04 Thread Mike Alsup
 www.linkdup.com - works fine
 www.getk2.com - crashes when firebug is enabled

Hi Sam,

I didn't have any trouble with either of those sites.  K2 throws a js
exception but Firebug handles it just fine.

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Re: [jQuery] Get the Firebug 1.0 Beta!

2006-12-04 Thread Matt Stith

getk2 works fine for me too. Same thing as mike, exception is thrown, and
cought by FB.

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 www.linkdup.com - works fine
 www.getk2.com - crashes when firebug is enabled

Hi Sam,

I didn't have any trouble with either of those sites.  K2 throws a js
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Re: [jQuery] Get the Firebug 1.0 Beta!

2006-12-04 Thread Guntur N. Sarwohadi

both sites work fine.. no errors nor exceptions whatsoever.. using FB2.0

btw.. this tool is. BADA$$!.. very very very nice tool.. can't work
without it.. ever! :D

cheers
Guntur N. Sarwohadi

On 12/5/06, Matt Stith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


getk2 works fine for me too. Same thing as mike, exception is thrown, and
cought by FB.

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  www.linkdup.com - works fine
  www.getk2.com - crashes when firebug is enabled

 Hi Sam,

 I didn't have any trouble with either of those sites.  K2 throws a js
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Re: [jQuery] Get the Firebug 1.0 Beta!

2006-12-04 Thread Sam Sherlock

The issue continues.  Though it appears I was misled and it appears to not
be about the xhtml bug.
Guess I just recalled that comment.  It just crashed over at
www.456bereastreet.com and it crashed there, thats strict html4 so the
problem got more wide spread.  I have gone through a cycle of opening
firefox and loading the first page then opening firebug and it either
crashed there or crashed when I clicked on html or inspect.

Having said that I have just opened  a new firefox window  and firebugged a
whole load of sites includng those I previously listed.

Perhaps the issue is now resolved somehow, fingers crossed - what I have
seen looks really amazing.
Hope the crashing remains resolved! So I can get neck deep in jQuery and
firebug

-S
On 05/12/06, Mike Alsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 www.linkdup.com - works fine
 www.getk2.com - crashes when firebug is enabled

Hi Sam,

I didn't have any trouble with either of those sites.  K2 throws a js
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Re: [jQuery] Get the Firebug 1.0 Beta!

2006-12-04 Thread Rey Bango
Did you submit a bug report to Joe Hewitt?

Rey...

Sam Sherlock wrote:
 The issue continues.  Though it appears I was misled and it appears to 
 not be about the xhtml bug.
 Guess I just recalled that comment.  It just crashed over at 
 www.456bereastreet.com http://www.456bereastreet.com and it crashed 
 there, thats strict html4 so the problem got more wide spread.  I have 
 gone through a cycle of opening firefox and loading the first page then 
 opening firebug and it either crashed there or crashed when I clicked on 
 html or inspect.
 
 Having said that I have just opened  a new firefox window  and 
 firebugged a whole load of sites includng those I previously listed.
 
 Perhaps the issue is now resolved somehow, fingers crossed - what I have 
 seen looks really amazing.
 Hope the crashing remains resolved! So I can get neck deep in jQuery and 
 firebug
 
 -S
 On 05/12/06, *Mike Alsup*  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
   www.linkdup.com http://www.linkdup.com - works fine
   www.getk2.com http://www.getk2.com - crashes when firebug is
 enabled
 
 Hi Sam,
 
 I didn't have any trouble with either of those sites.  K2 throws a js
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Re: [jQuery] Get the Firebug 1.0 Beta!

2006-12-04 Thread Sam Sherlock

I have submitted details to the google discussion group.

Or there a bug system like mantis somewhere also? something like this might
get lost in the swamp of discussion over there. I will wait and see what
response come through the google group and also play about with it some
more  seems to be openning it before loading the site, possibly having no
other tabs open

On the upside I did manage to have a play with firebug in one session and
click freely around the various features without  issue .  Though I cant
think what it was about this session that permitted it to work without
issue.  That was straight after I disabled a load of add ons; that I thought
might conflict with firebug or  I use seldom (though I had disabled every
add on except firebug)

Looks absolutely amazing though such a range info information; beautifully
presented - pristine work

- S

On 05/12/06, Rey Bango [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Did you submit a bug report to Joe Hewitt?

Rey...

Sam Sherlock wrote:
 The issue continues.  Though it appears I was misled and it appears to
 not be about the xhtml bug.
 Guess I just recalled that comment.  It just crashed over at
 www.456bereastreet.com http://www.456bereastreet.com and it crashed
 there, thats strict html4 so the problem got more wide spread.  I have
 gone through a cycle of opening firefox and loading the first page then
 opening firebug and it either crashed there or crashed when I clicked on
 html or inspect.

 Having said that I have just opened  a new firefox window  and
 firebugged a whole load of sites includng those I previously listed.

 Perhaps the issue is now resolved somehow, fingers crossed - what I have
 seen looks really amazing.
 Hope the crashing remains resolved! So I can get neck deep in jQuery and
 firebug

 -S
 On 05/12/06, *Mike Alsup*  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

   www.linkdup.com http://www.linkdup.com - works fine
   www.getk2.com http://www.getk2.com - crashes when firebug is
 enabled

 Hi Sam,

 I didn't have any trouble with either of those sites.  K2 throws a
js
 exception but Firebug handles it just fine.

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