[IxDA Discuss] Suitable icon for freeze

2007-12-03 Thread PREETI SALUJA
Hi all!
   Can you suggest some good links or any ideas for designing a suitable
icon to denote freeze image and freeze screen?
Kindly get back with any ideas that bouce ur head.
Regards,
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Competitive analysis

2007-12-03 Thread Sushma Sudhir

Hi all,

I am doing a competitive analysis for corporate/ecommerce site for a
product company. What are the various parameters against which a
qualitative analysis could be done. 
To name a few, I have: 
*   Overall structure 
*   Customer segmentation
*   Global/Local balance as each of the regions have their own sites
*   Brand expressions
*   Unique features
*   Technology used
*   Ease of reaching products
*   Quality of content

Are there any more key parameters?

Kind regards,

Sushma Sudhir
Senior Information Architect, Creative Design | Sapient


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Placement of credit card logos

2007-12-03 Thread Bryan Minihan
I'd say web sites aren't like convenience stores (where you're likely to see
CC logos right on the front door):  These days, credit cards are the most
common way to pay for something online (I'm generalizing, and know Paypal,
mail order and some other options exist), such that you shouldn't need to
advertise the fact that you accept credit cards, or which cards you
accept.  It's a given, and people won't gain anything out of seeing them on
the home page.

The only it depends point I would make, is if you don't accept Visa,
Mastercard or Discover...like - if you only take Diner's Club (which would
be weird).  Even then, I wouldn't put that on the home page, but probably on
the first step of the purchase process, as a warning.

In the spirit of reduce the unnecessary as much as possible, wherever
possible, then reduce it some more, I'd nix them from the home page, and
only include them where needed:  When asking for the person's payment info.
I'd go as far as saying you don't need the LOGOS at all...just a clear
indication of what you accept (select your card type:  visa, mc, amex,
chuck's card-o-matic).

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I'm curious to know where others stand with regard to credit card logo
placement on an ecommerce site. We're of differing opinions here - one camp
believing that credit card logos are best placed straight on the home page,
right in the top - prominent placement - and have the statistics to
prove that there is an increase in conversion as a result of said placement.
The other camp comes from a design perspective, and believes that credit
card logos are aesthetically unpleasing to the overall design (cheapening
the look and feel) and that the credit card logos are better placed where
they are more contextually appropriate - that is - within an in-page
shopping cart box (which displays once an item has been added to the cart)
and on the shopping cart pages themselves.

Thoughts?

Marianne

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Suitable icon for freeze

2007-12-03 Thread Ari Feldman
yes, great recommendation!

Horton's book is 13 or 14 yrs old but still valid today as it was when it
came out. it's a fantastic resource for understanding the theory and
practical considerations when designing icons and visual metaphors.



On Dec 3, 2007 8:36 AM, Chauncey Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,

 I would suggest that you try the method called braindrawing which is a
 visual type of brainstorming.  Here are the basic instructions:

 1. Each member of a group is invited to explore solutions to a visual
 problem statement by sketching solutions for a designed period of
 time.
 2. The sketches are passed on to another person.
 3. The second person then enhances or adds something to the sketch or
 creates a new sketch and then passes all the sketches on a page to yet
 another person.
 4. The process is repeated for several iterations. For example, you
 might do five iterations of braindrawing with the first iteration
 lasting 10 minutes (the first person has a blank page and might need
 more time to get started) followed by four, five-minute enhancement
 iterations.
 5. At the end of a braindrawing session, all the sketches created by
 the group are posted in an art gallery where colleagues and
 participants in the braindrawing session can review the sketches and
 discuss which ideas should be considered further.
 6. The post-braindrawing discussion should be recorded. The group can
 vote on the best ideas and then prioritize them further at the end of
 the session or at a separate session. The ideas can also evaluated by
 a different group.

 This is a simple technique which can generate many ideas.

 The second approach is to brainstorming metaphors associated with
 cold, the process of getting colder, etc and then brainstorming images
 that go with the various metaphors.  After you generate the list, you
 can apply various criteria (international acceptability, fit with
 current icons, complexity, etc.).

 If you don't have a copy, I would highly recommend William Horton's
 The Icon Book (which may be out of print) as the definitive guide on
 principles for icon design.  The appendix to the book also has a list
 of icons that can be to simulate ideas.

 Chauncey


 On Dec 3, 2007 12:25 AM, PREETI SALUJA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all!
Can you suggest some good links or any ideas for designing a suitable
  icon to denote freeze image and freeze screen?
  Kindly get back with any ideas that bouce ur head.
  Regards,
  Preeti
  
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Placement of credit card logos

2007-12-03 Thread Ari Feldman
most, not all ecommerce sites offer credit card payment options in a drop
down menu with Visa usually defaulted as its the most popular card in the
US.

because it's defaulted, some users may not click on the menu to reveal other
choices like AMEX or Discover, etc.

therefore, it *can't* hurt to place logs of other accepted cards next to the
payment options so users can visually scan their choices of supported cards.

AND...equally important - make sure you convey info on what the CVV number
is for the different cards you support - they vary between cards.



On Dec 3, 2007 10:41 AM, Dariusz Paciorek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I think that depends of the project, for example in Brazil the
 
  majority costumers look for the payment ways first(at least at the
  first buy intention) them he look for some product to buy.



 Maybe... but I've got alternative examples, where credit card logos are
 not
 displayed on home page.

 http://www.amazon.com

 http://www.agito.pl
 
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[IxDA Discuss] Fixing bugs is not fixing design!

2007-12-03 Thread Russell Wilson
Excerpted from a post on my blog:
http://www.dexodesign.com/2007/11/fixing-bugs-is-not-equivalent-to-fixing.html

Would love feedback fromn IxDA'ers...


[snip]

At Dux2007 http://www.dux2007.com/ in Chicago, I attended a workshop where
I asked the group why we don't design software like we do hardware? Why
don't we spend more time in prototypes, mockups, etc. One of the attendees,
a software designer... said because it's cheap to fix software problems -
all you have to do is make a download available that resolves the bugs.

That's what so many executives are really thinking, aren't they? Build it,
test it, get it
out the door, and then ship fixes as necessary. Time to market, fix later.

And herein lies the mistake: fixing bugs is not equivalent to fixing design.

True, bugs in software can be fixed easier and cheaper than bugs in
hardware. But we're not talking about bugs--we're talking about DESIGN. You
can't fix a design with a download! Design is the essence of the product,
how the product interacts with users, the personality of the product, the
metaphors, etc.

Attempting to fix design in an update results in confusion, retraining,
potential loss of trust, etc. The changes are too significant. Therefore
redesign is often delayed until the next major release of the product,
resulting in additional costs, potential loss of customer loyalty and the
opportunity to lock them in, etc.

So, yes, software bugs can be remedied easier than bugs in hardware. But
design problems in software are no easier or cheaper to resolve than
hardware design flaws, and therefore we (software designers, creators,
builders) must adopt better processes, principles, and expertise towards
designing better software products from the start.


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Suitable icon for freeze

2007-12-03 Thread Katie Albers
Let me just suggest that you may be complicating this unnecessarily 
by thinking of it as freeze It seems likely that what you want to 
do is analogous to either pausing or stopping a video display and 
there are recognized icons for both those.

Katie

On Dec 3, 2007 12:25 AM, PREETI SALUJA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all!
Can you suggest some good links or any ideas for designing a suitable
  icon to denote freeze image and freeze screen?
  Kindly get back with any ideas that bouce ur head.
  Regards,
  Preeti
   


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Fixing bugs is not fixing design!

2007-12-03 Thread Ari Feldman
Since I work on helping to design what is fairly complex software, i'd like
to chime in on this.

i agree that fixing bugs is not the same as fixing design.

however, anyone who has worked at a startup with scant resources, aggressive
time lines and so forth, will also tell you that you're often faced with
tough choices:


   - take X months to design the perfect system - not an option for a
   company that has to ship or release a product yesterday
   - implement a design that will work - learn from it and try to improve
   it based on real-world use - not ideal but the most practical given limited
   time and resources


On Dec 3, 2007 12:29 PM, Russell Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Excerpted from a post on my blog:

 http://www.dexodesign.com/2007/11/fixing-bugs-is-not-equivalent-to-fixing.html

 Would love feedback fromn IxDA'ers...


 [snip]

 At Dux2007 http://www.dux2007.com/ in Chicago, I attended a workshop
 where
 I asked the group why we don't design software like we do hardware? Why
 don't we spend more time in prototypes, mockups, etc. One of the
 attendees,
 a software designer... said because it's cheap to fix software problems -
 all you have to do is make a download available that resolves the bugs.

 That's what so many executives are really thinking, aren't they? Build it,
 test it, get it
 out the door, and then ship fixes as necessary. Time to market, fix later.

 And herein lies the mistake: fixing bugs is not equivalent to fixing
 design.

 True, bugs in software can be fixed easier and cheaper than bugs in
 hardware. But we're not talking about bugs--we're talking about DESIGN.
 You
 can't fix a design with a download! Design is the essence of the product,
 how the product interacts with users, the personality of the product, the
 metaphors, etc.

 Attempting to fix design in an update results in confusion, retraining,
 potential loss of trust, etc. The changes are too significant. Therefore
 redesign is often delayed until the next major release of the product,
 resulting in additional costs, potential loss of customer loyalty and the
 opportunity to lock them in, etc.

 So, yes, software bugs can be remedied easier than bugs in hardware. But
 design problems in software are no easier or cheaper to resolve than
 hardware design flaws, and therefore we (software designers, creators,
 builders) must adopt better processes, principles, and expertise towards
 designing better software products from the start.


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 NetQoS, Inc.
 
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Suitable icon for freeze

2007-12-03 Thread Michael Micheletti
On Dec 3, 2007 8:07 AM, Ari Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 yes, great recommendation!

 Horton's book is 13 or 14 yrs old but still valid today as it was when it
 came out. it's a fantastic resource for understanding the theory and
 practical considerations when designing icons and visual metaphors.


I'm not such a big fan of the Horton book. Some design books age well, this
one hasn't IMHO. I gave my copy away, and I do lots of icon design work. I
recommend instead:

Pictograms Icons  Signs, Rayan Abdullah  Roger Hubner
Large and interesting book with examples from many artists and eras. A large
emphasis on Olympics variants is understandable since that sort of started
the trend.

Handbook of Pictorial Symbols, Rudolf Modley
Another good sourcebook with lots of pictorial examples

If you expand out from these two books on Amazon you'll find lots of similar
symbol sourcebooks to choose from.

A more modern book on icon design is:
Icon Design, Steve Caplin
But it's still underwhelming and outdated, even though it was published in
2001. Great color printing though.

Two web sources that I keep hoping will be better than they actually are,
but in case you don't know about them:

The Tango Icon Library
http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Library

The Merriam-Webster Visual Dictionary Online
http://visual.merriam-webster.com/

If you need to create Windows icons, IcoFX is my favorite of the free icon
editors:
http://icofx.xhost.ro/

I think there's a real opportunity for a crackerjack designer/writer to
create the definitive book on icon and symbol design for software and
hardware products. You'll sell at least one copy to me.

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[IxDA Discuss] A good source for stats on browsers, screen resolution, OS, etc.

2007-12-03 Thread Lada Gorlenko
MarketShare is a good source of some recent and free statistics
frequently asked for by designers: 

Browsers:
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=0#

Screen resolution:
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=17

Search engines:
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=4

Some categories have a geographical filter, and you can get data by
location, if needed.

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Placement of credit card logos

2007-12-03 Thread Dmitry Nekrasovski
Agreed with Ari - displaying card logos on the checkout page is a good
visual indicator of the payment options that are available,
potentially saving users a click and some scanning to find this
information.

Displaying the accepted cards on the home page is overkill in my
opinion. The only case where I see it as justifiable is a store which
has an official payment provider, such as Visa for the Olympics (see
e.g. http://www.vancouver2010.com/store/).

A final note: If your site supports payment options like Paypal and
Google Checkout, it may be a good idea to display these not just on
the checkout page, but on product details pages as well. This allows
customers who wish to use these options to self-select earlier in the
checkout flow, and to avoid potentially having to enter billing and
shipping details twice (on your site and on the payment provider's).

Dmitry


On Dec 3, 2007 8:15 AM, Ari Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 most, not all ecommerce sites offer credit card payment options in a drop
 down menu with Visa usually defaulted as its the most popular card in the
 US.

 because it's defaulted, some users may not click on the menu to reveal other
 choices like AMEX or Discover, etc.

 therefore, it *can't* hurt to place logs of other accepted cards next to the
 payment options so users can visually scan their choices of supported cards.

 AND...equally important - make sure you convey info on what the CVV number
 is for the different cards you support - they vary between cards.




 On Dec 3, 2007 10:41 AM, Dariusz Paciorek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I think that depends of the project, for example in Brazil the
  
   majority costumers look for the payment ways first(at least at the
   first buy intention) them he look for some product to buy.
 
 
 
  Maybe... but I've got alternative examples, where credit card logos are
  not
  displayed on home page.
 
  http://www.amazon.com
 
  http://www.agito.pl
  
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] A good source for stats on browsers, screen resolution, OS, etc.

2007-12-03 Thread Barbara Ballard
On Dec 3, 2007 1:51 PM, Lada Gorlenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 MarketShare is a good source of some recent and free statistics
 frequently asked for by designers:

 Browsers:
 http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=0#

 Screen resolution:
 http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=17


We're having trouble believing this data, with Windows Mobile/Pocket
IE generating measurable volume and Symbian devices not even making
the list. Perhaps this is North America only?

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Fixing bugs is not fixing design!

2007-12-03 Thread Elisabeth Hubert
I agree Russell. Trying to fix a design should happen during the
conceptualization of the design. It doesn't happen through fixes to
software. Fixes to software to poorly adapt a design result in a big
ball of tape that no one can unravel.

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Placement of credit card logos

2007-12-03 Thread James Leslie
 
Surely the aim of an e-commerce site primarily is to sell products,
therefore if the statistics prove that an increased conversion rate is
achieved by placing the logos on the home page, that has to be the
correct method?

Sometimes the means to the end is not the most aesthetically desirable
:-(

James

---
I'm curious to know where others stand with regard to credit card logo
placement on an ecommerce site. We're of differing opinions here - one
camp believing that credit card logos are best placed straight on the
home page, right in the top - prominent placement - and have the
statistics to prove that there is an increase in conversion as a result
of said placement.
The other camp comes from a design perspective, and believes that credit
card logos are aesthetically unpleasing to the overall design
(cheapening the look and feel) and that the credit card logos are better
placed where they are more contextually appropriate - that is - within
an in-page shopping cart box (which displays once an item has been added
to the cart) and on the shopping cart pages themselves.


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Placement of credit card logos

2007-12-03 Thread Eric Scheid
On 4/12/07 3:15 AM, Ari Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 most, not all ecommerce sites offer credit card payment options in a drop
 down menu with Visa usually defaulted as its the most popular card in the
 US.
 
 because it's defaulted, some users may not click on the menu to reveal other
 choices like AMEX or Discover, etc.

blech, drop downs always hide options :-(

One site I recently visited did something smart - although they had the card
type as a drop down, they did display next to that the credit card
logos/icons ... and they *also* put a smidgen of javascript on those images
such that clicking (say) the Visa logo would select Visa in the drop down.
People do click images. Go with the flow.

by the way - in an early study into what makes websites more trustable, it
was found that prominent display of credit card logos had an effect (more so
than the various TRUSTe style badges). Don't know if that is still the case
though .. time to repeat the research.

e.


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Fixing bugs is not fixing design!

2007-12-03 Thread Bryan Minihan
I agree with your argument, but actually think you and the software designer
to whom you spoke are both right.  It could be you both had semantic
differences in what constitutes a design problem.  To some folks (many
developers I know), a design problem includes:  widgets in the wrong
place, fonts that are too small, colors that don't contrast, distorted
graphics.  When you tell them a design problem that's worth fixing is:
the registration form has 17 steps too many, the site doesn't flow
correctly, the WYSIWYG editor introduces conflicting tags into the page,
which make the link colors inconsistent...those folks are likely to say:
OTHAT design problem!  That's different.  And then they're likely
to say those should be accounted for in the requirements, up front.

That's a weird hypothetical, I know, but I think design can mean purely
aesthetics or fundamental thread through which every line of code is
woven...to different people at different times, depending on perspective,
need, and decreasing bonus due to lengthening project timelines.

- Bryan
http://www.bryanminihan.com
 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russell
Wilson
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 12:30 PM
To: IxDA
Subject: [IxDA Discuss] Fixing bugs is not fixing design!

Excerpted from a post on my blog:
http://www.dexodesign.com/2007/11/fixing-bugs-is-not-equivalent-to-fixing.ht
ml

Would love feedback fromn IxDA'ers...


[snip]

At Dux2007 http://www.dux2007.com/ in Chicago, I attended a workshop where
I asked the group why we don't design software like we do hardware? Why
don't we spend more time in prototypes, mockups, etc. One of the attendees,
a software designer... said because it's cheap to fix software problems -
all you have to do is make a download available that resolves the bugs.

That's what so many executives are really thinking, aren't they? Build it,
test it, get it
out the door, and then ship fixes as necessary. Time to market, fix later.

And herein lies the mistake: fixing bugs is not equivalent to fixing design.

True, bugs in software can be fixed easier and cheaper than bugs in
hardware. But we're not talking about bugs--we're talking about DESIGN. You
can't fix a design with a download! Design is the essence of the product,
how the product interacts with users, the personality of the product, the
metaphors, etc.

Attempting to fix design in an update results in confusion, retraining,
potential loss of trust, etc. The changes are too significant. Therefore
redesign is often delayed until the next major release of the product,
resulting in additional costs, potential loss of customer loyalty and the
opportunity to lock them in, etc.

So, yes, software bugs can be remedied easier than bugs in hardware. But
design problems in software are no easier or cheaper to resolve than
hardware design flaws, and therefore we (software designers, creators,
builders) must adopt better processes, principles, and expertise towards
designing better software products from the start.


--
Russell Wilson
Vice President, Product Design
NetQoS, Inc.

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[IxDA Discuss] Bulk-content creators (correction - broken link)

2007-12-03 Thread Bryan Minihan
Here ya go... http://tinyurl.com/258umz

Wow, my first tinyurl.

- Bryan
http://www.bryanminihan.com
 

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Subject: [IxDA Discuss] Bulk-content creators

We're considering using an SEO strategy whereby a company creates several
hundred content pages with relevant keywords (to our site) that link back to
our site, in order to increase our search engine rankings.  I just wrote a
piece about this on my Blog, but have been wondering how you esteemed folks
feel about the subject:
http://www.bryanminihan.com/minihands/2007/12/that-weird-empty-feeling-from-
bulk.html

It's not specifically design related, but such pages definitely impact one's
interaction with the web as a whole, and illustrate perfectly how a clean,
well-designed site can still be completely worthless if it doesn't contain
valuable content.

- Bryan
http://www.bryanminihan.com
 



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[IxDA Discuss] Bulk-content creators

2007-12-03 Thread Bryan Minihan
We're considering using an SEO strategy whereby a company creates several
hundred content pages with relevant keywords (to our site) that link back to
our site, in order to increase our search engine rankings.  I just wrote a
piece about this on my Blog, but have been wondering how you esteemed folks
feel about the subject:
http://www.bryanminihan.com/minihands/2007/12/that-weird-empty-feeling-from-
bulk.html

It's not specifically design related, but such pages definitely impact one's
interaction with the web as a whole, and illustrate perfectly how a clean,
well-designed site can still be completely worthless if it doesn't contain
valuable content.

- Bryan
http://www.bryanminihan.com
 

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Scheid
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 8:27 PM
To: IxD
Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Placement of credit card logos

On 4/12/07 3:15 AM, Ari Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 most, not all ecommerce sites offer credit card payment options in a drop
 down menu with Visa usually defaulted as its the most popular card in the
 US.
 
 because it's defaulted, some users may not click on the menu to reveal
other
 choices like AMEX or Discover, etc.

blech, drop downs always hide options :-(

One site I recently visited did something smart - although they had the card
type as a drop down, they did display next to that the credit card
logos/icons ... and they *also* put a smidgen of javascript on those images
such that clicking (say) the Visa logo would select Visa in the drop down.
People do click images. Go with the flow.

by the way - in an early study into what makes websites more trustable, it
was found that prominent display of credit card logos had an effect (more so
than the various TRUSTe style badges). Don't know if that is still the case
though .. time to repeat the research.

e.


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