Re: [IxDA Discuss] pointing devices for digital TV

2009-03-03 Thread Eirik Midttun
There is a recent press release from Bluetooth SIG on using BT for
remote controls:
http://www.bluetooth.com/Bluetooth/Press/SIG/NEW_iBLUETOOTHi_STANDARD_BUILT_FOR_THE_UNIVERSAL_REMOTE_CONTROL_1.htm

Universality is a key issue here, so the use of pointing might be
affected by how well it works with the appliances that work together
with the TV.

That said, I think Bluetooth is performant enough to give smooth
pointing. Being a standard it also allows for widespread adoption.


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[IxDA Discuss] pointing devices for digital TV

2009-03-02 Thread naveen
Hello,

I have been working on pointing devices for TV to access internet,
games and other services. So far I have used different devices like
Wavlt by ThinkOptics which is based on absolute pointing and Loop by
Hillchrest lab which is based on relative pointing technology.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/30/thinkoptics-wavit-3d-media-pc-remote-gunning-for-wiimote/

http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/technology_news/4210433.html

As a first time experience, both appear to be great devices as
interaction is so intuitive and natural but when it comes to really
do the task like browsing videos on youtube, it sucks. I feel like
switching to normal mouse and keyboard.

I am wondering if you people also had similar experiences?

Do you think pointing technology as future for digital TV? 
Are there any other better devices for using internet on TV? Are
there any gesture based interaction products for TV?

Thank You!

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] pointing devices for digital TV

2009-03-02 Thread Chris Avore
Naveen, 

I'm curious which version of Hillcrest's pointing technology you
used to browse YouTube.

Since the link you referenced was from 2007, I'm wondering if
perhaps you're only familiar with earlier attempts at browsing
YouTube. 

Since then, Kodak's Theatre HD uses the Hillcrest pointing
technology to browse YouTube with some decent success.  

Here's the YouTube app on the Kodak box:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxN6kEe4Pi4
(note this video shows search, not browse, and is pretty low quality)

I definitely think pointing has a future--I consistently grow
frustrated with having to constantly do the down-down-down
right-right-right to select a movie I want to rent in iTunes on
AppleTV or in my DirecTV guide.  

While I'll be the first to note it's not for everyone, it certainly
can be more efficient in specific instances. 

Disclosure: I'm an interaction design consultant for Hillcrest Labs.

 


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] pointing devices for digital TV

2009-03-02 Thread naveen
Chris,

I have used Freespace, Loop to browse youtube. I agree with you on
the point that it's not for everyone and not for every task. 

It is far better than traditional way selection using left-right,
up-down keys through remote control. For me and other test persons,
the living environment for enjoying the TV (relaxing on couch) and
the distance from the TV (about 4meters) were creating problems in
getting the point accurate. Some people used two hands to get the
accurate point, instead of one hand. 

Thanks!

 


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] pointing devices for digital TV

2009-03-02 Thread Jeremy Kriegel
Have not tried it with a TV, but have used various Gyration products
for years. I believe they also have a remote now, but I use their
mice for presentations as it lets me be in front of the room and have
total mouse control, not just forward/back.

www.gyration.com

-jeremy 'no connection to gyration' kriegel
www.methodSANSmadness.com


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] pointing devices for digital TV

2009-03-02 Thread maastrix
Philips has a lot of remotes for several instances:
http://www.remotecontrol.philips.com/index.cfm?id=1223

Mouse is replacable by touchpad, pointer, thumbstick but
keyboard is to stay. Can't see it disappear for chatting
or textprocessing. Perhaps they come up with a sort of
pda like remote with shorthand typing but I don't think it
will beat the keyboard on speed or easy of use/ease of
learning. The bigger question is: what do you want to do
with your tv? Surfing the internet is more of a personal
thing to me and at the moment, my laptop is on my lap
and the tv is on. A Wii-mote kind of device is easier to introduce
because lots of people are used to the kind of interface.


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