Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Call for help: GDAL and txt2shp.py

2008-07-03 Thread Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)

On 3-Jul-08, at 4:25 PM, Kjell Are Refsvik wrote:

In Qgis you should be able to reproject to UTM and label your  
points. Qgis will also export to PNG format if that is what you  
want. However I don't think that Qgis will output an ESRI world  
file (the only way that I know to keep a PNG spatially  
reference... but the application uDIG will output a .wld world  
file to spatially reference a PNG).


I am in need of a open source command-line style software here, in  
order to automate this entire endevour.

Both uDIG and QGIS appears to be GUI style applications.


You had mentioned to me earlier about GDAL/OGR from the infamous  
Kyngchaos package, right?  Do you have the command "gdalinfo" and  
"ogrinfo" - they will be your best friends soon.


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Call for help: GDAL and txt2shp.py

2008-07-03 Thread Kjell Are Refsvik


On 3. juli. 2008, at 23.02, Dane Springmeyer wrote:


...
However - I have another dataset from the middle east, and  
approaching this data the same way, even trying to reverse the  
dataset from the images, it still fails:


http://www.ia-stud.hiof.no/~kjellare/misc/gdal_fail1.png
http://www.ia-stud.hiof.no/~kjellare/misc/gdal_fail2.png



I can see from the Qgis mouse coordinates in the lower right that  
the shapefile you created likely has x,y coordinates in a projected  
coordinate system (at least different from WGS 84/4326). My first  
(wild) guess would be to add a .prj file from spatialreference.org  
for a UTM zone that covers your area of the middle east (you'll be  
need to find out what exact zone number is needed if it is in UTM).


I would try:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fspatialreference.org+utm+middle+east&btnG=Search


Not having worked much with GIS systems or projection/coordinate  
systems before, I am struggling to understand the meaning of all this.  
However, the following (esriwkt) was the result of the visit to the  
link above, and I am injected it into the .prj file before running the  
script all over again:
PROJCS["Nahrwan 1967 / UTM zone 39N",GEOGCS["Nahrwan  
1967",DATUM["D_Nahrwan_1967",SPHEROID["Clarke_1880_RGS", 
6378249.145,293.465]],PRIMEM["Greenwich",0],UNIT["Degree", 
0.017453292519943295 
]],PROJECTION["Transverse_Mercator"],PARAMETER["latitude_of_origin", 
0],PARAMETER["central_meridian",51],PARAMETER["scale_factor", 
0.9996],PARAMETER["false_easting",50],PARAMETER["false_northing", 
0],UNIT["Meter",1]]
Please let me know if I got this completely wrong and please excuse my  
lack of knowledge here.


UTM is a likely candidate if the data came from a GPS unit, but its  
just a guess.


It did. Garmin GPSMap 60 CS.

But, still, even with the new projection file, this thing still looks  
like this:


http://www.ia-stud.hiof.no/~kjellare/misc/gdal_fail3_lebanon.png

I even tried reversing the coordinates in the input file, but with  
almost the same result:


http://www.ia-stud.hiof.no/~kjellare/misc/gdal_fail3_lebanon2.png

Hm... Not sure how to proceed from here.


...
In Qgis you should be able to reproject to UTM and label your  
points. Qgis will also export to PNG format if that is what you  
want. However I don't think that Qgis will output an ESRI world file  
(the only way that I know to keep a PNG spatially reference... but  
the application uDIG will output a .wld world file to spatially  
reference a PNG).


I am in need of a open source command-line style software here, in  
order to automate this entire endevour.

Both uDIG and QGIS appears to be GUI style applications.

Are there a way around this to let me export the shapefiles I have to  
a .png raster file to complete my mission?


Kjell Are

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Call for help: GDAL and txt2shp.py

2008-07-03 Thread Dane Springmeyer


On Jul 3, 2008, at 1:40 PM, Kjell Are Refsvik wrote:



On 3. juli. 2008, at 21.36, Dane Springmeyer wrote:


Refsvik,

Try reversing your coordinates, as the graphic looks like your  
output shapefile has had the x/y reversed.


Splendid! That did the trick.


great.



However - I have another dataset from the middle east, and  
approaching this data the same way, even trying to reverse the  
dataset from the images, it still fails:


http://www.ia-stud.hiof.no/~kjellare/misc/gdal_fail1.png
http://www.ia-stud.hiof.no/~kjellare/misc/gdal_fail2.png



I can see from the Qgis mouse coordinates in the lower right that the  
shapefile you created likely has x,y coordinates in a projected  
coordinate system (at least different from WGS 84/4326). My first  
(wild) guess would be to add a .prj file from spatialreference.org for  
a UTM zone that covers your area of the middle east (you'll be need to  
find out what exact zone number is needed if it is in UTM).


I would try:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fspatialreference.org+utm+middle+east&btnG=Search

UTM is a likely candidate if the data came from a GPS unit, but its  
just a guess.






... trying to have the dots numbered or named and outputting the two  
layers as a transverse mercator projected .png file are the two  
things left to do.



I would really appreciate some input on how to proceed, as I cannot  
figure out if gdal_rasterize can be used for this purpose.




In Qgis you should be able to reproject to UTM and label your points.  
Qgis will also export to PNG format if that is what you want. However  
I don't think that Qgis will output an ESRI world file (the only way  
that I know to keep a PNG spatially reference... but the application  
uDIG will output a .wld world file to spatially reference a PNG).


I'd recommend #qgis or #udig with further questions.


Dane





Best regards,

Kjell Are

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] GFOSS apps in Poseidon Linux

2008-07-03 Thread Christian Ferreira
Bonjour Guillaume,


Here I reproduce the same message I sent to Andreas:

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Well, I need just a simple http area with the .iso file and the md5sum file.

If you can build something like this...

http://g3pd.ufpel.edu.br/mirrors/poseidon/

...(but with some text in French or English) is even better.

Our time doesn't need control over this "area" to upload a newer
version (when is available)... we can contact you.

Is this reasonable in your opinion?
--

If this is also possible for you, fell free to do it. And... Merci!

BTW for all OSGeo: I got a message from Portugal, some people is
already starting to promote the use of Poseidon in some classes for a
course of engineering (they use Octave and R).


Cordialement,
Christian



On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Guillaume Sueur
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> same for me, I can offer you 2 Gb hosting with no problem.
>
> Regards,
>
> Guillaume (France)
>
> Dr. Andreas M?üller a écrit :
>>
>> Christian,
>>
>> could you specify the requirements, we have some servers rented at a
>> pretty fast German provider. Mirroring some 2 gig should be no problem.
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> Christian Ferreira schrieb:
>>>
>>> Thank you Tyler,
>>
>>
>>> Well, we lack the infrastructure to put a tracker/torrent. I can try
>>> do it at home, but my upload rate is 70Kb/s... it's slow to seed
>>> 1.7Gb.
>>
>>> While the HTTP host can provide the .iso with speeds like for
>>> example... 700Kb/s (ten times faster).
>>
>>> What could be really helpful is a mirror in the North hemisphere (USA
>>> or Europe). Any idea?
>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Christian
>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 Welcome Christian,

 I look forward to trying it out.  I downloaded the iso yesterday but
 unfortunately my download got corrupted  (probably my multiple
 start-finishes I had :) ) - so I look forward to trying it again
 tonight.
  Any chance of putting up a version for torrent use?  I'm not too
 familiar
 with it but perhaps if others on here know how to start a new torrent,
 we
 can share it.

 Tyler

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] GFOSS apps in Poseidon Linux

2008-07-03 Thread Christian Ferreira
Hallo Andreas,


Vielen Dank for your reply! Sorry to take so much time to write back.

Well, I need just a simple http area with the .iso file and the md5sum file.

If you can build something like this...

http://g3pd.ufpel.edu.br/mirrors/poseidon/

...(but with some text in German or English) is even better.

Our time doesn't need control over this "area" to upload a newer
version (when is available)... we can contact you.

Is this reasonable in your opinion?

Viele Grüße,
Christian

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> Christian Ferreira schrieb:
>> Thank you Tyler,
>>
>>
>> Well, we lack the infrastructure to put a tracker/torrent. I can try
>> do it at home, but my upload rate is 70Kb/s... it's slow to seed
>> 1.7Gb.
>>
>> While the HTTP host can provide the .iso with speeds like for
>> example... 700Kb/s (ten times faster).
>>
>> What could be really helpful is a mirror in the North hemisphere (USA
>> or Europe). Any idea?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Christian
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Welcome Christian,
>>>
>>> I look forward to trying it out.  I downloaded the iso yesterday but
>>> unfortunately my download got corrupted  (probably my multiple
>>> start-finishes I had :) ) - so I look forward to trying it again tonight.
>>>  Any chance of putting up a version for torrent use?  I'm not too familiar
>>> with it but perhaps if others on here know how to start a new torrent, we
>>> can share it.
>>>
>>> Tyler
>>>
>>> On 2-Jul-08, at 11:31 AM, Christian Ferreira wrote:
>>>
 Hi Tyler and all,


 Now there is officially someone (me) from the Poseidon Linux team on this
 list.

 Poseidon Linux 3.0 is brand new... released 12 days ago. ;-)

 The main language for it is now English, but with pre-installed
 packages for Portuguese, Spanish and German.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Call for help: GDAL and txt2shp.py

2008-07-03 Thread Kjell Are Refsvik


On 3. juli. 2008, at 21.36, Dane Springmeyer wrote:


Refsvik,

Try reversing your coordinates, as the graphic looks like your  
output shapefile has had the x/y reversed.


Splendid! That did the trick.

http://www.ia-stud.hiof.no/~kjellare/misc/gdal_success.png

However - I have another dataset from the middle east, and approaching  
this data the same way, even trying to reverse the dataset from the  
images, it still fails:


http://www.ia-stud.hiof.no/~kjellare/misc/gdal_fail1.png
http://www.ia-stud.hiof.no/~kjellare/misc/gdal_fail2.png

Any ideas on what could be wrong here is appreciated.

Then if you want to display the data against other layers not in WGS  
84/EPSG 4326 you'll need to add a .prj file, which can be grabbed  
from http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/4326/


Thanks. Just before it crashed, I just got that tip from a kind  
individual on irc://irc.freenode.net/#gdal


Dane


Now, with this as a reference:

http://www.perrygeo.net/wordpress/?p=5

... trying to have the dots numbered or named and outputting the two  
layers as a transverse mercator projected .png file are the two things  
left to do.


I would really appreciate some input on how to proceed, as I cannot  
figure out if gdal_rasterize can be used for this purpose.


Best regards,

Kjell Are

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Call for help: GDAL and txt2shp.py

2008-07-03 Thread Dane Springmeyer

Refsvik,

Try reversing your coordinates, as the graphic looks like your output  
shapefile has had the x/y reversed. Then if you want to display the  
data against other layers not in WGS 84/EPSG 4326 you'll need to add  
a .prj file, which can be grabbed from http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/4326/


Dane




On Jul 3, 2008, at 12:51 AM, Kjell Are Refsvik wrote:


Hi,

I am a graduate student in Information Technology at Ostfold  
University College - Dept. of Computer Science.


Nearing the end of my thesis on the challenges and opportunities  
related to digital photographs I would like to write some code that  
process pictures and makes a HTML web album (with an embedded map  
with a numbered legend on it) using open source tools.


Inspired by GeoPerrys note on command-line style approach to using  
software (http://www.perrygeo.net/wordpress/?p=105) I have been  
looking for a basic unix toolset to process geodata.


My geo-data come in the form of a pile of geo-tagged images and my  
own maps (shapefiles), and going back to GeoPerry, I found a python  
script:


http://www.perrygeo.net/wordpress/?p=5

...that appears to do more or less what I want.

I should mention that my I have little experience in programming in  
general and that diving deep into the terminal on my Mac OS X  
installation feels a bit daunting. Even so, I was able to upgrade my  
Python-installation yesterday and install GDAL and all its  
dependencies (I think) to get the script (txt2shp.py) to work.


When I run the script:
http://www.ia-stud.hiof.no/~kjellare/misc/Terminal.png

...using my data as input:
http://www.ia-stud.hiof.no/~kjellare/misc/Norway_map.zip
http://www.ia-stud.hiof.no/~kjellare/misc/input.txt

...and view the output shapefile that comes out of it, I observe  
this strange offset between the map (or Norway) and my data (geodata  
from images taken in Norway) and know something must be wrong.


http://www.ia-stud.hiof.no/~kjellare/misc/QGIS.png

Not knowing a whole lot about GIS, I would really appreciate help on  
how to proceed from here to:


1. Work out the reason behind, and how to fix the offset problem
2. Change the map projection (preferably to Mercator) and have the  
legend dots numbered

3. Output a png of a mesh between the map and the legend for web use

Best regards,

Kjell Are Refsvik
Graduate student
Ostfold University College
Norway
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Call for help: GDAL and txt2shp.py

2008-07-03 Thread Kjell Are Refsvik

Hi,

I am a graduate student in Information Technology at Ostfold  
University College - Dept. of Computer Science.


Nearing the end of my thesis on the challenges and opportunities  
related to digital photographs I would like to write some code that  
process pictures and makes a HTML web album (with an embedded map with  
a numbered legend on it) using open source tools.


Inspired by GeoPerrys note on command-line style approach to using  
software (http://www.perrygeo.net/wordpress/?p=105) I have been  
looking for a basic unix toolset to process geodata.


My geo-data come in the form of a pile of geo-tagged images and my own  
maps (shapefiles), and going back to GeoPerry, I found a python script:


http://www.perrygeo.net/wordpress/?p=5

...that appears to do more or less what I want.

I should mention that my I have little experience in programming in  
general and that diving deep into the terminal on my Mac OS X  
installation feels a bit daunting. Even so, I was able to upgrade my  
Python-installation yesterday and install GDAL and all its  
dependencies (I think) to get the script (txt2shp.py) to work.


When I run the script:
http://www.ia-stud.hiof.no/~kjellare/misc/Terminal.png

...using my data as input:
http://www.ia-stud.hiof.no/~kjellare/misc/Norway_map.zip
http://www.ia-stud.hiof.no/~kjellare/misc/input.txt

...and view the output shapefile that comes out of it, I observe this  
strange offset between the map (or Norway) and my data (geodata from  
images taken in Norway) and know something must be wrong.


http://www.ia-stud.hiof.no/~kjellare/misc/QGIS.png

Not knowing a whole lot about GIS, I would really appreciate help on  
how to proceed from here to:


1. Work out the reason behind, and how to fix the offset problem
2. Change the map projection (preferably to Mercator) and have the  
legend dots numbered

3. Output a png of a mesh between the map and the legend for web use

Best regards,

Kjell Are Refsvik
Graduate student
Ostfold University College
Norway
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] GFOSS apps in Poseidon Linux

2008-07-03 Thread Guillaume Sueur

same for me, I can offer you 2 Gb hosting with no problem.

Regards,

Guillaume (France)

Dr. Andreas M?üller a écrit :

Christian,

could you specify the requirements, we have some servers rented at a
pretty fast German provider. Mirroring some 2 gig should be no problem.

Andreas

Christian Ferreira schrieb:

Thank you Tyler,




Well, we lack the infrastructure to put a tracker/torrent. I can try
do it at home, but my upload rate is 70Kb/s... it's slow to seed
1.7Gb.



While the HTTP host can provide the .iso with speeds like for
example... 700Kb/s (ten times faster).



What could be really helpful is a mirror in the North hemisphere (USA
or Europe). Any idea?



Best regards,
Christian



On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Welcome Christian,

I look forward to trying it out.  I downloaded the iso yesterday but
unfortunately my download got corrupted  (probably my multiple
start-finishes I had :) ) - so I look forward to trying it again tonight.
 Any chance of putting up a version for torrent use?  I'm not too familiar
with it but perhaps if others on here know how to start a new torrent, we
can share it.

Tyler

On 2-Jul-08, at 11:31 AM, Christian Ferreira wrote:


Hi Tyler and all,


Now there is officially someone (me) from the Poseidon Linux team on this
list.

Poseidon Linux 3.0 is brand new... released 12 days ago. ;-)

The main language for it is now English, but with pre-installed
packages for Portuguese, Spanish and German.

Best regards,
Christian
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Christian,

could you specify the requirements, we have some servers rented at a
pretty fast German provider. Mirroring some 2 gig should be no problem.

Andreas

Christian Ferreira schrieb:
> Thank you Tyler,
> 
> 
> Well, we lack the infrastructure to put a tracker/torrent. I can try
> do it at home, but my upload rate is 70Kb/s... it's slow to seed
> 1.7Gb.
> 
> While the HTTP host can provide the .iso with speeds like for
> example... 700Kb/s (ten times faster).
> 
> What could be really helpful is a mirror in the North hemisphere (USA
> or Europe). Any idea?
> 
> Best regards,
> Christian
> 
> On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Welcome Christian,
>>
>> I look forward to trying it out.  I downloaded the iso yesterday but
>> unfortunately my download got corrupted  (probably my multiple
>> start-finishes I had :) ) - so I look forward to trying it again tonight.
>>  Any chance of putting up a version for torrent use?  I'm not too familiar
>> with it but perhaps if others on here know how to start a new torrent, we
>> can share it.
>>
>> Tyler
>>
>> On 2-Jul-08, at 11:31 AM, Christian Ferreira wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tyler and all,
>>>
>>>
>>> Now there is officially someone (me) from the Poseidon Linux team on this
>>> list.
>>>
>>> Poseidon Linux 3.0 is brand new... released 12 days ago. ;-)
>>>
>>> The main language for it is now English, but with pre-installed
>>> packages for Portuguese, Spanish and German.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Christian
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