Re: [slim] I'm about to go Non Green thank to SlimDevices

2007-03-05 Thread haunyack

kdf;185896 Wrote: 
> On 5-Mar-07, at 11:01 PM, Ron Olsen wrote:
> 
> >
> > haunyack;185891 Wrote:
> >> Not his problem - Slimdevices lack of problem resolution.
> >> Or should I say - his problem inherited?
> >> Why should he have to jump through these hoops to troubleshoot a
> >> problem in published software?
> >>
> >> Slimdevices "open-source" - bah!
> > Feel better after this rant? How do you expect SlimDevices to solve
> > problems without specific details about what's going wrong?
> s/he doesn't.  it's obvious how to get in touch with SD properly, so 
> this kind of thing is always a clear motive.
> 
> -kdf

I understand your point.
My point, simply - (as other have stated more eloquently than I)
I have putchased this piece of hardware on good faith.
Why doesn't it perform as stated?
When did I agree to be involved in the evolution of the supporting
(albeit primitive) software?
Is my usage of this wonderfull hardware dependent on my contribution to
this obviously faulty software?


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Re: [slim] I'm about to go Non Green thank to SlimDevices

2007-03-05 Thread kdf

On 5-Mar-07, at 11:01 PM, Ron Olsen wrote:

>
> haunyack;185891 Wrote:
>> Not his problem - Slimdevices lack of problem resolution.
>> Or should I say - his problem inherited?
>> Why should he have to jump through these hoops to troubleshoot a
>> problem in published software?
>>
>> Slimdevices "open-source" - bah!
> Feel better after this rant? How do you expect SlimDevices to solve
> problems without specific details about what's going wrong?
s/he doesn't.  it's obvious how to get in touch with SD properly, so 
this kind of thing is always a clear motive.

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Re: [slim] I'm about to go Non Green thank to SlimDevices

2007-03-05 Thread haunyack

Ron Olsen;185892 Wrote: 
> Feel better after this rant? How do you expect SlimDevices to solve
> problems without specific details about what's going wrong?  To get a
> bug fixed, the problem has to be reproducible by the developer fixing
> the bug.  This isn't going to happen without additional input from the
> person experiencing the problem.  Sorry if that's not what you want to
> hear, but that's how it works.

Yea, I feel much "better"

Thanks for setting me straight.


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Re: [slim] Streaming General Sound Output in Windows

2007-03-05 Thread Peter
jagertee wrote:
> Well this feature is requested, because more and more people have music
> videos in their library and would like to use the squeezebox as an
> easy-to-use controller for the video playback. 
>   

Easy, get MythTV and use my Lirc Plugin or get my VideoBox to control 
Mediaplayer, but make the sound come directly from the PC.
> video will be rendered on the PC connected to the TV or beamer, audio
> will be rendered by the squeezebox. synced. maybe i should get myself
> an xbox.
>   

Streaming audio over ethernet/wifi introduces delays. Not a problem when 
listening to music but a big problem while watching (non delayed) video 
at the same time. It probably can't be done. Why just connect the PC to 
the beamer, connect it to your stereo as well. As for control, that can 
be accomplished over the SB.

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Re: [slim] I'm about to go Non Green thank to SlimDevices

2007-03-05 Thread kdf

On 5-Mar-07, at 10:51 PM, haunyack wrote:

>
> Ron Olsen;185889 Wrote:
>> How do you know that the fixes are trivial?
>>
>> If you want help to solve your problems, and not just rant about them,
>> turn on the appropriate SlimServer debug flags (d_control, and perhaps
>> others) via Server Settings->Debugging, and post the output when your
>> problems occur.
>
> Not his problem - Slimdevices lack of problem resolution.
> Or should I say - his problem inherited?
> Why should he have to jump through these hoops to troubleshoot a
> problem in published software?
>
> Slimdevices "open-source" - bah!
>
oklets tackle this...

do you walk to work?
what car do you drive?
how many lightbulbs do you have in your house, cf?
what is the source of your power? coal? nuclear? hydro?

-kdf

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Re: [slim] I'm about to go Non Green thank to SlimDevices

2007-03-05 Thread Ron Olsen

haunyack;185891 Wrote: 
> Not his problem - Slimdevices lack of problem resolution.
> Or should I say - his problem inherited?
> Why should he have to jump through these hoops to troubleshoot a
> problem in published software?
> 
> Slimdevices "open-source" - bah!
Feel better after this rant? How do you expect SlimDevices to solve
problems without specific details about what's going wrong?  To get a
bug fixed, the problem has to be reproducible by the developer fixing
the bug.  This isn't going to happen without additional input from the
person experiencing the problem.  Sorry if that's not what you want to
hear, but that's how it works.


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Re: [slim] I'm about to go Non Green thank to SlimDevices

2007-03-05 Thread haunyack

Ron Olsen;185889 Wrote: 
> How do you know that the fixes are trivial?
> 
> If you want help to solve your problems, and not just rant about them,
> turn on the appropriate SlimServer debug flags (d_control, and perhaps
> others) via Server Settings->Debugging, and post the output when your
> problems occur.

Not his problem - Slimdevices lack of problem resolution.
Or should I say - his problem inherited?
Why should he have to jump through these hoops to troubleshoot a
problem in published software?

Slimdevices "open-source" - bah!


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Re: [slim] I'm about to go Non Green thank to SlimDevices

2007-03-05 Thread Ron Olsen

mswlogo;185882 Wrote: 
> I'd just like to have it work as designed and it doesn't. I'd like it to
> work on the hardware I already have. I like to see it work on other
> peoples hardware too. I've seen bits and pieces of the same complaints
> posted. And I'd like it to work on hardware I plan for the future. I
> already bought the hardware and like others said replacing it serves
> nothing green.
> 
> The fixes I'm asking for are fairly trivial.
How do you know that the fixes are trivial?

If you want help to solve your problems, and not just rant about them,
turn on the appropriate SlimServer debug flags (d_control, and perhaps
others) via Server Settings->Debugging, and post the output when your
problems occur.


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Re: [slim] I'm about to go Non Green thank to SlimDevices

2007-03-05 Thread haunyack

mswlogo;185882 Wrote: 
> I'd just like to have it work as designed and it doesn't. I'd like it to
> work on the hardware I already have. I like to see it work on other
> peoples hardware too. I've seen bits and pieces of the same complaints
> posted. And I'd like it to work on hardware I plan for the future. I
> already bought the hardware and like others said replacing it serves
> nothing green.
> 
> The fixes I'm asking for are fairly trivial.

Can I get a witness?


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Re: [slim] Slimserver 6.5.1 Problem: Songs Cut Off

2007-03-05 Thread haunyack

"From the report in the bug database, it doesn't appear that it's really
being worked on.  Given the seriousness of the bug, I'm not sure I
understand why that is."


I wonder...
I reported this bug to SD months ago and received less than
enthusiastic interest.
Since then, many others have reported the same problem and no progress
or comment concerning this.
What good is a "new release" that does not work properly?
That seems to be the Slimdevices pathos these days - Sell product,sell
shares, sell the farm - we'll leave software development up to the
community.
Here I sit at version 6.3.1 while SD trudges along on their roadmap.
I wonder what's up their mega-corporate sleeve?
Maybe it's time to bail and wait for the next grass-roots startup.

.


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Re: [slim] I'm about to go Non Green thank to SlimDevices

2007-03-05 Thread mswlogo

I'd just like to have it work as designed and it doesn't. I'd like it to
work on the hardware I already have. I like to see it work on other
peoples hardware too. I've seen bits and pieces of the same complaints
posted. And I'd like it to work on hardware I plan for the future. I
already bought the hardware and like others said replacing it serves
nothing green.

The fixes I'm asking for are fairly trivial.


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Re: [slim] Slimserver 6.5.1 Problem: Songs Cut Off

2007-03-05 Thread JJZolx

gutted;185660 Wrote: 
> Damn - I upgraded the other day (see previous version in my sig) but I
> should have checked here first.
> 
> Am also seeing this problem after upgrading :(  Currently using SB1,
> and playing .flac or .mp3 I get the same thing.
> 
> Any news on release date for next version?  How stable are the
> nightlies at the moment - worth giving recent nightly a try?  If still
> a while to go before next official release, i'll go back to previous
> version...

I've never seen a timeline published for any SlimServer release.  The
usual reason for pushing out a release is in support of some new
hardware.  So 6.5.2 could be released in a month or in six months.  The
next major release - 7.0 - looks to be many, many months away.  One of
the techs comments in the bug report that they're not seeing this in
7.0, but that's pretty tenuous, since not more than a handful of people
are really using 7.0.

The nightlies of 6.5.2 are quite stable, but don't bother with them if
you're looking for a fix for this bug.  From the report in the bug
database, it doesn't appear that it's really being worked on.  Given
the seriousness of the bug, I'm not sure I understand why that is.


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Re: [slim] I'm about to go Non Green thank to SlimDevices

2007-03-05 Thread Pale Blue Ego

mswlogo;185784 Wrote: 
> I'll trust the majority of the scientists that spend a lifetime on the
> subject that say it's humans that have caused it. It's a pretty well
> accepted fact these days. Except for a few hold outs.

I'm guessing the majority of those scientists have spent a lifetime
studying this planet only.  And, if there WERE any generalists among
all those specialists, they could not have spent much time studying the
solar data, as it was just recently released.  I certainly don't dispute
the warming trend, nor do I deny that human activity has an effect.  I
do know that fluctuations large and small have been happening since
long before the industrial age, and the recent data indicates the
entire solar system is getting warmer, and will get warmer still in the
coming decades no matter what efforts are made here on Earth.

At any rate, I try to do my part; in the past 3 years I've put only
2200 miles on my (very tiny) automobile, and more than 3600 miles on my
electric scooter (www.egovehicles.com).  The Ego2 is almost as cool as
the Squeezebox as far as nifty, forward-thinking, life-altering
technology.

Anywayit's a discussion that, while vastly interesting, is better
suited for another forum.  Peace.


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Re: [slim] Nokia 770 Skin on N800, Volume Problem

2007-03-05 Thread bklaas

check out this post for help on how to change the volume setting
increments:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=163899&highlight=volume#post163899

the volume controls will be a bit better in 7.0, with +/- buttons for
incrementing the volume up or down 1 and the bars still there for
larger volume step adjustments.

cheers,
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Re: [slim] Help with some debugging please!

2007-03-05 Thread nicketynick

Hmmm. can't find where McAfee allows me to ignore specific file
types - I can scan "all files", or "Program files and documents only". 
Not sure if this is very helpful
Has anybody else tried to do this with McAfee? It's McAfee Security
Center 7.2


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Re: [slim] Help with some debugging please!

2007-03-05 Thread nicketynick

Thanks kdf,

Sure is hard to read these fora when the response gets posted before
the question! Or are you psychic?
Anyway, I'm running McAfee - I've seen the advice on the mysq* files
before - I'll do it now while I'm thinking about it and see what
happens!


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Re: [slim] Help with some debugging please!

2007-03-05 Thread kdf
Quoting nicketynick  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>
> Hi kdf,
> Well, here's what I see in the Event Viewer corresponding pretty
> closely with a Slimserver stoppage. Make any sense?
> C:\PROGRA~1\SLIMSE~1\server\Bin\MSWIN3~1\mysqld.exe: Normal shutdown

"normal" isn't really expected :)

I would have expected something to do with slim.exe in there  
somewhere.  Are you using any antivirus software?  This has a known  
issue with mysqld, which can be fixed by telling your AV software to  
ignore *.MYI and *.MYD files.

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Re: [slim] Help with some debugging please!

2007-03-05 Thread nicketynick

Hi kdf,
Well, here's what I see in the Event Viewer corresponding pretty
closely with a Slimserver stoppage. Make any sense?
C:\PROGRA~1\SLIMSE~1\server\Bin\MSWIN3~1\mysqld.exe: Normal shutdown

I haven't tried the more intensive logging yet.

Peter, thanks for the assurances with SaverSwitcher. So far, don't
think it's to blame!


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[slim] Nokia 770 Skin on N800, Volume Problem

2007-03-05 Thread ds2021

Is anyone else using the Nokia770 skin on a Nokia N800 encountering
problems with volume control? 

In SS 6.5.1 and 6.5.2 (nightly) changing from the third volume bar to
the fourth volume bar causes an enormous jump in actual volume. When I
change the volume back manually using the remote, the player reports a
volume of about 8. Great skin otherwise. 

Ben, would the Ajax-ed versions that you are working on work in 6.5.x?
If so, is there a way to get my hands on this?


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Re: [slim] User poll: favourite screen saver

2007-03-05 Thread erland

*Off:* Date and Spelled Time (Verbarius Clock Style plugin), I also
sometimes use the "Weather Time" screen saver.
*On:* Saver Switcher (Configured with "MusicInfoSCR" and "Date and
Spelled Time")
*Playing:* Saver Switcher (Configured with "MusicInfoSCR" and "Date and
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Re: [slim] Using MySQL on a different computer

2007-03-05 Thread JJZolx

snarlydwarf;185808 Wrote: 
> Look in the slimserver.pref file:
> 
> dbsource: dbi:mysql:hostname=127.0.0.1;database=%s
> 
> Change hostname appropriately.

May need a bit more than that.

You'll need to create the database(s) and a database user yourself,
then give the user all necessary permissions on the database.

In the dbsource line, the %s expands to 'slimserver', so if you have
two SlimServer databases on the server, at least one of them will have
to be named something else.

Also, you might need to change the database username to whatever name
you use in MySQL, and enter a password if the user needs a password for
access.  The default SlimServer instance of MySQL just uses a username
of 'slimsever', with no password.

Make sure you stop SlimServer while editing the prefs file.


Code:


  dbpassword: whatever
  dbsource: dbi:mysql:hostname=127.0.0.1;port=3306;database=slimserver6
  dbusername: slim
  



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Re: [slim] User poll: favourite screen saver

2007-03-05 Thread Deaf Cat

Simple Old Me :)

Off - Off(Blank)
On - Snow
Playing - Now Playing/small spec/time played


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Re: [slim] I'm about to go Non Green thank to SlimDevices

2007-03-05 Thread Pat Farrell
funkstar wrote:
> Not really. If you already have the hardware then you aren't going to
> spend, say, £300 on parts. The difference in electricity usage isn't
> going to be vast, especially if you are using modest salvaged hardware.
> It will take you years to save the £300 you spent. 
> 
> Also, what about factoring in the energy used in manufacturing that new
> hardware you bought that wasn't strictly necessary. Then there is the
> waste produced by throwing out the old, not unneeded hardware :)

Yeah, but.
Being Green is not about being cost effective.

The most cost effective way to generate power is to use coal, but you 
can't even say that anymore. ;-)

And the actual most greenhouse friendly way to generate power is nuke, 
but very few greens will admit to that either.

I don't see the issue in the first place. No one would use a kilowatt 
powered gaming rig for a SlimServer, the old mellow things work fine.
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Re: [slim] I'm about to go Non Green thank to SlimDevices

2007-03-05 Thread funkstar

Pat Farrell;185711 Wrote: 
> A better solution to staying Green is to not use a surplus computer
> but to build/buy a low power server specific for SlimServer
> and other file sharing tasks. Something with a Via 1GHZ processor takes
> 
> very little power and is an acceptable SlimServer.
Not really. If you already have the hardware then you aren't going to
spend, say, £300 on parts. The difference in electricity usage isn't
going to be vast, especially if you are using modest salvaged hardware.
It will take you years to save the £300 you spent. 

Also, what about factoring in the energy used in manufacturing that new
hardware you bought that wasn't strictly necessary. Then there is the
waste produced by throwing out the old, not unneeded hardware :)


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Re: [slim] Streaming General Sound Output in Windows

2007-03-05 Thread jagertee

Well this feature is requested, because more and more people have music
videos in their library and would like to use the squeezebox as an
easy-to-use controller for the video playback. 

video will be rendered on the PC connected to the TV or beamer, audio
will be rendered by the squeezebox. synced. maybe i should get myself
an xbox.


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Re: [slim] Using MySQL on a different computer

2007-03-05 Thread snarlydwarf

Look in the slimserver.pref file:

dbsource: dbi:mysql:hostname=127.0.0.1;database=%s

Change hostname appropriately.


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[slim] Using MySQL on a different computer

2007-03-05 Thread 4mula1

I am setting up an instance of SlimServer in a zone in Solaris 10 for my
wife's iTunes collection.  We have music that overlaps and I really want
to keep her stuff seperate from mine.  Since the second SlimServer will
run in a virtual Solaris (zone) to try to cut down on system overhead,
I'd like to point the SlimServer hosting my wife's music to use the
MySQL already running in the global zone but haven't seen quite how to
do this.  What I will end up with is two instances of SlimServer
running in their own spaces but sharing a common MySQL.

I think I have a handle on all of the steps I need to take with MySQL
itself, it's pointing SlimServer to a remote MySQL?

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Re: [slim] I'm about to go Non Green thank to SlimDevices

2007-03-05 Thread konut

"It's not easy being green." - Kermit the Frog


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Re: [slim] Windows vs Linux - your OS of choice for SS

2007-03-05 Thread fairyliquidizer


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windows as it has EAC and a better version of MusicIP (I used to use
Linux).  I like to use my server for ripping.  The only downside is the
cost of the OS.  Personally I think Linux is perfectly viable if you
don't mind ripping on Windows.  The MusicIP licence works on either
platform.

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[slim] Internet Radio & the Copyright Review Board

2007-03-05 Thread bobharp

FYI

Internet radio may face crippling fees 
(http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070305-internet-radio-may-face-crippling-fees.should-xm-radio-and-sirius-be-alarmed.html).

This would be sad indeed.  Would Pandora get hit?


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Re: [slim] UNC paths and NOT drive mappings ?

2007-03-05 Thread heinkraanen

Searching for weeks for the solution, I think this thread (and
especially thanks to oreillymj) solved the problem, THANKS FOR THAT! I
have a Freecom FSG on which I installed my music. Slimserver is running
om my laptop, and Slimserver didn't accept the path to my FSG-share.
Neither after mapping the drive. But after changing slimserver settings
to "autmatically run at login" (stead of run automatically at start up)
Slimserver accepts the path to my mapped share now. Slimserver is now
running under my user account instead of run by system. Thanks for the
tip!!

Cheers,

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Re: [slim] I'm about to go Non Green thank to SlimDevices

2007-03-05 Thread mswlogo

Pale Blue Ego;185757 Wrote: 
> Upsides - vast music catalog, more planet-friendly.
> 
> Downsides - low bitrate music and a subscription fee.  Might be cheaper
> (if not greener) for him to run his own server 24-7.
> 
> Side note on global warming:
> 
> The sun is getting hotter (hopefully it won't go nova before my Magnum
> Opus is finished), and this may account for 90% or more of any warming
> trend.  Ice on Mars is melting, Titan and Pluto are measurably warmer,
> and the coming decade should see even greater solar flareups.  We could
> see a land rush to Canada.  As for me, I'll stay in Florida and wait for
> my current property, (12 miles inland) to become oceanfront.

I'll trust the majority of the scientists that spend a lifetime on the
subject that say it's humans that have caused it. It's a pretty well
accepted fact these days. Except for a few hold outs.

It's a good suggestion on squeezenetwork. If it had full bitrate I'd
seriously consider it and the fee would not be an issue.

I've done a lot on making it low power. UPS full time also burns
electricity.


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox as a switch?

2007-03-05 Thread Peter
snow wrote:
> Ok, thanks. Then i need to buy a crossover!
>
> Anyone is using this method? Does it works good?
>   

I used it with an IP camera, worked fine (better reception than the wifi 
built into the cam).

Regards,
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[slim] Can u help?

2007-03-05 Thread Bob

Hi there.  
I am looking to set up a facility where i can play music from one
location (using OTSDJ) and send this over the internet via broadband
(in the UK) to a remote location...  

I have been led to believe that a Squeezebox is the best product for
this...?

1. Is this true?
2. Has anyone successfully set up a remote site such as this?
3. Can anyone please help me in how this would be set up?

Thanks very much...


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox as a switch?

2007-03-05 Thread snow

Ok, thanks. Then i need to buy a crossover!

Anyone is using this method? Does it works good?


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox as a switch?

2007-03-05 Thread seanadams

use a crossover cable. press and hold power to reset, and then go
through setup again and you should get an option to enable bridging.


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[slim] Squeezebox as a switch?

2007-03-05 Thread snow

Hi,

Today i use the wireless networking on the squeezebox, and everything
is perfect=)

Now i got a xbox that needs network connection, is it possible to
connect the xbox to the RJ45 on the squeezebox so i get my network
connected to the xbox.

I tried with a regular network cable, but with no luck.

Any clue here guys?


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Re: [slim] I'm about to go Non Green thank to SlimDevices

2007-03-05 Thread Pale Blue Ego

seanadams;185736 Wrote: 
> If you use Squeezenetwork instead, you would be saving both electricity
> and PC hardware... and not just on your end - the server systems hosted
> by us are vastly more efficient. You may find that with Rhapsody, you
> just don't need to have your own music collection online all the time.
> Just an idea.

Upsides - vast music catalog, more planet-friendly.

Downsides - low bitrate music and a subscription fee.  Might be cheaper
(if not greener) for him to run his own server 24-7.

Side note on global warming:

The sun is getting hotter (hopefully it won't go nova before my Magnum
Opus is finished), and this may account for 90% or more of any warming
trend.  Ice on Mars is melting, Titan and Pluto are measurably warmer,
and the coming decade should see even greater solar flareups.  We could
see a land rush to Canada.  As for me, I'll stay in Florida and wait for
my current property, (12 miles inland) to become oceanfront.


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Re: [slim] Windows vs Linux - your OS of choice for SS

2007-03-05 Thread tedfroop


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I am running both right now - dual boot XP and Ubuntu.  Linux is
definitly the faster of the two for scanning and updating.  Having
ripped a few disks with Sound Juicer I can say high quality ripping is
faster and simpler in Linux as well.


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Re: [slim] Windows vs Linux - your OS of choice for SS

2007-03-05 Thread Pale Blue Ego


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cliveb;185624 Wrote: 
> I've never understood why so many people seem to have problems getting
> it running reliably on Windows.

At one time I had my same server PC running Slimserver on Win2k, but
the network shares kept disappearing and reappearing at various times. 
Never could figure it out.

With Linux and Samba, the networking is rock-solid, as is the rest of
the OS.  Funny that Samba, a reverse-engineered version of the Windows
SMB protocol, works better than the real thing.


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Re: [slim] I'm about to go Non Green thank to SlimDevices

2007-03-05 Thread mattybain

Great but what about us outside the US?

What about LastFM and MP3Tunes?

Get these working and yes I will probably switch of my server and save
a whole heap of electricity.


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Re: [slim] I'm about to go Non Green thank to SlimDevices

2007-03-05 Thread Rick B .

Ron Olsen;185705 Wrote: 
> If you leave your computer on 24x7, make sure you have a good firewall
> program and use a surge protector.
> 
> See http://kb.iu.edu/data/adls.html for details.

I'd say to also use a USP - they can be had for well under $100 and
prevent inelegant power-down's.


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Re: [slim] I'm about to go Non Green thank to SlimDevices

2007-03-05 Thread seanadams

If you use Squeezenetwork instead, you would be saving both electricity
and PC hardware... and not just on your end - the server systems hosted
by us are vastly more efficient. You may find that with Rhapsody, you
just don't need to have your own music collection online all the time.
Just an idea.


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Re: [slim] I'm about to go Non Green thank to SlimDevices

2007-03-05 Thread haunyack

Not my leader - ecologically or otherwise.

Time for me to throw a log on the fire.

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Re: [slim] I'm about to go Non Green thank to SlimDevices

2007-03-05 Thread Ron Olsen

haunyack;185720 Wrote: 
> Oh...the guy who was billed for 221,000 kilowatt-hours usage in 2006 ?
> 
> http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=nation_world&id=5072659

That's an exaggeration! An urban legend spewed forth by a conservative
think tank!  He really only used 191,000 kilowatt/hours ($1,200 monthly
electric bill).

See http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/government/a/al_gore_energy.htm

Please get your facts straight before you besmirch the reputation of
our beloved ecological leader! :-) :-) :-)


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Re: [slim] I'm about to go Non Green thank to SlimDevices

2007-03-05 Thread haunyack

jeffmeh;185719 Wrote: 
> I'm telling Al Gore. :-P

Oh...the guy who was billed for 221,000 kilowatt-hours usage in 2006 ?


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Re: [slim] I'm about to go Non Green thank to SlimDevices

2007-03-05 Thread jeffmeh

I'm telling Al Gore. :-P


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Re: [slim] I'm about to go Non Green thank to SlimDevices

2007-03-05 Thread Pat Farrell
mswlogo wrote:
> I'm ready to throw in the towel and just leave my Server running full
> time, waste electricity and shorten life time of my server.
> 
> Basically it's wicked annoying trying to have my Server sleep because
> of simple bugs that could be fixed. So SlimDevices is encouraging me to
> go non Green.

As others have said, turning off a computer most likely shortens its life.

A better solution to staying Green is to not use a surplus computer
but to build/buy a low power server specific for SlimServer
and other file sharing tasks. Something with a Via 1GHZ processor takes 
very little power and is an acceptable SlimServer.


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Re: [slim] I'm about to go Non Green thank to SlimDevices

2007-03-05 Thread Ron Olsen

mswlogo;185672 Wrote: 
> I'm ready to throw in the towel and just leave my Server running full
> time, waste electricity and shorten life time of my server.
> 
Use more electricity: yes; shorten the lifetime of your server: no.
Computers work best when they are always on.  Most commercial server
machines run 24x7.  I've had my computer running 24x7 for four years
since I built it, and I've had no hardware problems.

Many Linux systems run maintenance programs every 24 hours. On my
machine, these run between 3am and 4am.

If you have a CRT monitor, it's a good idea to set it up to go into
standby mode if it's not used for a while.

If you have a Windows machine, and you leave it on 24x7 and connected
to the Internet, make sure you have a good firewall program.

See http://kb.iu.edu/data/adls.html for details.


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Re: [slim] Windows vs Linux - your OS of choice for SS

2007-03-05 Thread Mark Lanctot


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cliveb;185624 Wrote: 
> I've never understood why so many people seem to have problems getting
> it running reliably on Windows.

Me too.  It's stable for me and rescans are snappy, taking about 4
minutes for nearly 4000 tracks.

That said, I was experimenting with Ubuntu Linux back when SlimServer
6.5.0 was new and a lot of forum users were having problems with it. 
Because I was just playing around, I installed SlimServer on Ubuntu and
it worked right away.  I'm sure I could be happy with either OS - and I
am NEVER installing Vista on anything I own, ever.

Still, from looking at the poll results, you would think that 85% of
SlimServer users run Linux.  That can't be truly representative...there
are probably a higher proportion of Linux users here but reality would
be closer to the other way around (optimistically!)


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Re: [slim] my SB starts playing at random times

2007-03-05 Thread Mark Lanctot

sbn;185658 Wrote: 
> 1. somebody accessing the web interface from the LAN (unlikely, because
> of password protection)

Well, the password is sent in-the-clear, an outdated way of sending a
password because it's embedded in the URL which is not encrypted.

It's unlikely that anyone will be monitoring your traffic this closely,
but it's not the kind of security you'd use in online banking.

Try IP blocking instead.  Server Settings - Security.  Make sure to
allow 127.0.0.1 as well as your DHCP pool or LAN addresses.  This is
very effective.

> 2. some of my neighbours have a remote control with a code equal to the
> "play" code of the SB remote, and it goes in through the window. (also
> unlikely, because there are about 20 meters to nearst neighbour window,
> and the SB is located so you cant see it from the window.

Also pretty unlikely, but you can eliminate this by placing an opaque
object in front of the SB when you go to bed.

> Does anybody know a kind of logging feature that I can use for tracking
> this problem? Or maybe just the location of some slimserver logs

Server Settins - Debugging.  d_source will tell you precisely when it
starts and what event caused it to start.  d_ir might tell you if there
was IR activity from the remote detected at that time.

One of the other debugging flags might tell you what remote clients
were connected to SlimServer, but I'm not sure which one.


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Re: [slim] FLAC to CD and MP3 Software

2007-03-05 Thread jpj

Another vote for Burrrn ... no flab, does the job very well.


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Re: [slim] Windows vs Linux - your OS of choice for SS

2007-03-05 Thread bklaas


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If you had a working Linux machine at your house, would you consider
either dual booting that machine so you could run slimserver in
Windows, or even buying another machine mainly just to run slimserver
in Windows?

of course not.

now, reverse that:

If you had a working Windows machine at your house, would you consider
either dual booting that machine so you could run slimserver in Linux,
or even buying another machine mainly just to run slimserver in Linux?

I see this scenario posted all the time on this forum.

The problem I see more often than not with Windows slimserver
installations is that the users are employing all manner of other
garbage on these machines-- some by choice: anti-virus, personal
firewall; some not: viruses, spyware, malware, etc.. These often cause
conflicts of interest with SS. 

Linux tends to not be hampered by this stuff as much, somewhat by its
design, but also because it caters to crazed tinkerers (myself
included), who often have the knowledge to fix such things. Also,
Linux's roots are with Unix, which excels in server capabilities.
Windows can accomplish these things as well, but that's not where its
heritage lies.

#!/ben

I run my house's slimserver (6.5 svn) on Gentoo Linux, the same machine
I use for my desktop workstation
I currently develop slimserver skins (7.0 svn) on Ubuntu Linux
(laptop)
I also have WinXP on a laptop, which I boot to when I have to


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[slim] I'm about to go Non Green thank to SlimDevices

2007-03-05 Thread mswlogo

I'm ready to throw in the towel and just leave my Server running full
time, waste electricity and shorten life time of my server.

If I Pause or Stop for a couple minutes the SlimServer shuts down (even
though it may have just powered it up). Server normally would sleep
after 1 hr.

If I power up SqueezeBox it does not wait long enough for Server to
come up. So I have to power up twice and stand there waiting for Server
to come up.

SqueezeBox itself ignores PowerOn IR code (only Toggle Power). So My
Remote can't use Discrete Power IR codes if I want the Server to
Sleep.

Basically it's wicked annoying trying to have my Server sleep because
of simple bugs that could be fixed. So SlimDevices is encouraging me to
go non Green.

ThinkPad T40p running XP for server.
SqueezeBox
6.5.1 SlimServer
Have had SqueezeBox wired and wireless.


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Re: [slim] "do not use itunes" but link one album from itunes music?

2007-03-05 Thread Mark Lanctot

You could also make a playlist that points to that album, and place the
playlist in the SlimServer playlist directory.

You'd have to create it in another application which SlimServer
sometimes can't use, but take a look at the finished playlist in a text
editor.  Make sure it's an .m3u playlist.  As long as the file
references are correct it should work.


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Re: [slim] "do not use itunes" but link one album from itunes music?

2007-03-05 Thread amcluesent

>is there a way around this issue without linking my whole itunes
library<

Check out my previous post on using NTFS Junction Points to pull
different directories into a single library for slimserver to scan.


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Re: [slim] FLAC to CD and MP3 Software

2007-03-05 Thread 4mula1

Both Nero and Roxio can do it.  I forget which version of Roxio support
starts in, 7 or 8, I think.  I was doing it with Nero 5 with the Flac
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Re: [slim] Slimserver 6.5.1 Problem: Songs Cut Off

2007-03-05 Thread gutted

Damn - I upgraded the other day (see previous version in my sig) but I
should have checked here first.

Am also seeing this problem after upgrading :(  Currently using SB1,
and playing .flac or .mp3 I get the same thing.

Any news on release date for next version?  How stable are the
nightlies at the moment - worth giving recent nightly a try?  If still
a while to go before next official release, i'll go back to previous
version...


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Slimserver 6.3.1 +MusicIP Mixer 1.7 +MoodLogic 2.7.1.18 +AlienBBC 1.02a
+Slimscrobbler 0.34
Windows 2000 Professional sp4
Intel Celeron 1.4GHz
512MB RAM
Squeezebox 1 wireless (Player Firmware Version: 40)
Library of approx 6600 MP3s

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[slim] my SB starts playing at random times

2007-03-05 Thread sbn

Hi

I use the latest Slimserver 6.5.2 on a Win2k3 box, with an SB3.

During the last couple of weeks, the Squeezebox has started playing in
the middle of the night, without any action from me - and with no
alarms set.

I really don't know why, and i can't find a way to stop it, except from
shutting down the server and powering of the SB.

Except from software bugs, it can only be

1. somebody accessing the web interface from the LAN (unlikely, because
of password protection)

2. some of my neighbours have a remote control with a code equal to the
"play" code of the SB remote, and it goes in through the window. (also
unlikely, because there are about 20 meters to nearst neighbour window,
and the SB is located so you cant see it from the window.

Does anybody know a kind of logging feature that I can use for tracking
this problem? Or maybe just the location of some slimserver logs

It really annoys me!!!


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Re: [slim] FLAC to CD and MP3 Software

2007-03-05 Thread Nikhil

Burrrn will do what you need. It is free, simple, quick, and
lightweight.

http://www.burrrn.net/?page_id=4


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Re: [slim] FLAC to CD and MP3 Software

2007-03-05 Thread dick

I use CD-DA Converter from Poikosoft for ripping and converting formats.
It also has a facility to burn audio or mp3 CDs from any format.  To do
this you simply drag your album folder (or individual tracks) onto the
"playlist" and press burn.  
Simple?


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Re: [slim] Windows vs Linux - your OS of choice for SS

2007-03-05 Thread jonheal


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Question: Windows vs Linux - your OS of choice for SS

- Windows
- Linux


Pat Farrell;185504 Wrote: 
> jonheal wrote:
> > I guess that means I'm stupid.
> 
> no, you seem to have missed
> All IMHO, of course.
> 
> and the implied :-), :-P, etc
> 
> -- 
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> http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html

Well, I'm not -that- sensitive. I forgot to include a smiley myself.

But really, Windows isn't that big of a pain in the butt. I've run
Slimserver on Windows 2000 and currently on XP. I have zero problems
currently, although I did have to resolve a startup conflict with MS
OneCare. I'm still at 6.3.1, but I have no need to upgrade further, and
I'm not interested in Vista right now, either.


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Re: [slim] Slimserver won't start on mac os x

2007-03-05 Thread Spookykinkajou

this worked!  thanks.

Sorry about the version confusion.  I had the released version for mac
os x but then when the problem ocurred I downloaded the nightly release
that was available on the slimserver webpage.


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[slim] FLAC to CD and MP3 Software

2007-03-05 Thread staresy

I currently store all my CD's as FLAC files for playback on my
squeezebox. Is there any software that can take an album of FLAC files
and convert them back into CD format and then burn a CD (ideally with
little user intervention - ie select the directory, put in a CD and
press burn)?

Also, is there anything that could do the same but to from FLAC to
MP3?

Ta


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Re: [slim] Wake On LAN for Squeeze box

2007-03-05 Thread dusura

My PC seems to wake up when I plug in my SB1. Then I have to unplug
again after use otherwise my PC never goes into standby.

I wish there was a switch on the SB rather than having to pull the
power cord.


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Re: [slim] SlimDevices Squeezebox 2/3 and Sonos ZP80

2007-03-05 Thread Nikhil

notanatheist;185323 Wrote: 
> Interesting that you state the Sonos is better at multi-room sync. In
> what way is it better than the SB2/3? I have 3 SB units at home and
> regularly sync/unsync them. The only thing I can think of that could be
> considered a 'hiccup' is the current track restarts. Not enough to
> bother me though. 
> 
> Does the Sonos give you web control as well? Is the remote RF or WiFi?
> I find it convienant to be sitting at a computer and just pop up the
> web interface to make changes to the volume and playlist on the fly
> without searching for the remote.
> 
> I certainly agree on the display issue though. It is nice to see what
> is actually playing on the screen and/or have other information at your
> fingertips like the date/time/weather, visualizations, track info, or
> custom text welcoming people. Not exactly something the Sonos can do.
> Squeezebox obviously gives you far more freedom to setup your device
> however you please and is not tied to any particular platform.

I wrote the original post nearly a year ago, so some things have
changed on both platforms since then. I do continue to use both
platforms side by side in my home (because each has its set of
benefits). I still have a personal preference for the SlimServer +
Squeezebox platform though members of my family have the opposite
preference.

WRT multiroom syncing, people's experience with the SBs and TPs have
been variable - for some people (like you) it seems to just work
perfectly, while others seem to have no end of trouble - at least that
was the impression I got at the time of the review. On the other hand
with the Sonos I don't recall anyone ever having a problem - it always
just works out of the box with minimal fuss or configuration.

The controller, as most people have acknowledged, is probably the
strongest selling point. The controller is WiFi. In addition to the
WiFi controller, there is a Desktop controller for Mac and Win and an
AJAX based Web COntrol that has been and continues to be developed by
the user community.


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Re: [slim] Transporter broken?

2007-03-05 Thread gbruzzo

I am so looking forward to that!


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Re: [slim] Transporter broken?

2007-03-05 Thread Robin Bowes
gbruzzo wrote:
> Just been on the phone with the representative of Ripcaster.co.uk
> They will ship me a new Transporter today. 
> 
> Pukka (excellent) service I say

I've not had any failures, but my experience of Slim Devices support has
been excellent and, while I didn't want to suggest it at the time, I was
pretty sure that they'd send you a new one.

Glad it's sorted.

Now, enjoy the music (when it arrives!)

R.

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Re: [slim] Non Loading Library

2007-03-05 Thread FELEMENT

Bless my supplier, he came up with the answer and it is:

The Music Folder and Playlist Folder should be set to /ext/mnt/music -
this is the internal location of \\SlimServer-01\Public\music

So you Qnap people out there.. that's is what to do! Don't erase it! 
(as I seemed to have done! Idiot!)


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Re: [slim] Transporter broken?

2007-03-05 Thread gbruzzo

Just been on the phone with the representative of Ripcaster.co.uk
They will ship me a new Transporter today. 

Pukka (excellent) service I say

Cross fingers

Giacomo


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Re: [slim] Slimserver won't start on mac os x

2007-03-05 Thread danco

It's not clear to me what versions of SlimServer you have been using. I
believe there was a change in the caching between some versions, and
this has caused trouble for some people.

Anyway it can't do any harm to delete the cache, though it may not
help.

It's at ~/Library/Caches/SlimServer


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Re: [slim] Windows vs Linux - your OS of choice for SS

2007-03-05 Thread cliveb


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- Windows
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I used to run Slimserver on a dedicated FreeBSD machine that was built
from bits I had lying around (500MHz AMD K6, 256 MB RAM). But then it
occured to me that it was silly having two servers running 24/7, so I
moved Slimserver to the household file/email/web/etc server (533MHz
mini-ITX, 512MB RAM), which happens to run Windows 2000.

Slimserver has worked pretty much flawlessly on both machines. I've
never understood why so many people seem to have problems getting it
running reliably on Windows.


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Re: [slim] Transporter broken?

2007-03-05 Thread gbruzzo

Robin,

sorry, I misplaced my reply. Indeed the failure of the Transporter is
harsh and irritating, not your comments, which were welcome and
friendly. 

Haunyack I did indeed need to vent. Now I will focus on getting the
problem solved. I will let you know how things progress. 

Giacomo


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Re: [slim] SlimDevices Squeezebox 2/3 and Sonos ZP80

2007-03-05 Thread notanatheist

I'm going with the combination of a fast server (Gentoo on a 2.8Ghz
800FSB P4 w/1GB RAM, no X) and self run ethernet throughout the house.
Any of my PCs also get the respect of running strictly Intel or 3COM
NICs.

So, for all the times I have synced I have never had an issue. Then
again, maybe it's just a blessing :)


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