Re: [slim] Radio URL won't play (plays with WMP 11)
Thanks andyg, ... but is mms equal to http? Anyway, I got around it. In server settings/Filetypes, I unchecked the last filetype "Windows Media (built in)". Now streaming-handshake/buffering takes som more time, but at least it works.. Is streaming put through SlimServer this way? (instead of through the router directly?) Ronny -- RonHatl RonHatl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43162 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Australians being screwed on price??
I'm surprised that some people are coming off so shocked here. I know some names have been around long enough to know this ISN'T all a logitech thing. Complaining about pricing has been here since before I came along. In fact, I've even been part of it going back to 2001 when I paid 100% premium on SliMP3 when I'm only 2.5 hours north by plan from SD home base. I'm part of a big company now myself, and it has many divisions around the world with their own contracts for sales. Product development creates a product and each regional sales "company" does their own work at creating a market locally and selling the product. Other regions do not interfere. I'm not sure how "kids" is more offensive than the implication of being "screwed". As one who sits on both sides (user and dev) I think there are thicker skins needed on both sides. Users aren't the only ones who are allowed to be frustrated. As early responding trolls in this tread have already posted in other threads, offensive language..."get over it". This thread has been inflamed by early trolls as much as anyone else. No doubt, I'm now a target too, but I've been there. But the main point is, if you really hate the pricing then attack the local operating company. Now that the Canadian Dollar is at par with the US, there is a lot of that going on in Canada. Please do the same in your region. Prices are market driven, and you are the market. Drive away folks. -kdf -- kdf kdf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43128 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
snarlydwarf;266490 Wrote: > My guess: DRM. > > Sending an stream of decrypted audio over a wire or 802.11 interface is > probably a no-no. Sending it over a proprietary encrypted 2.4G > microwave connection is probably okay. > > Sonos doesn't use standard 802.11 for their network, they use their own > transport layer. For some applications (ie, appeasing the silly music > companies), this can be an advantage. For "polluting 2.4G even more > than my neighbors" this is a drawback. 2.4 just has a huge noise floor. Let alone firing up the microwave (and all aren't as tight as we are led to believe), which basically is a barrage jammer ;) Gotta love a magnetron. I am starting to pollute 5GHZ and 5.8 GHZ myself ;) -- jeffmc JeffMc Pacific Northwest jeffmc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11172 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Server upgrade - sound now dropping out
Are you guys using the new Default skin in a browser on the same machine running SqueezeCenter 7? It's been known to peg the CPU to 100% in some browsers, particularly Firefox with certain plugins. If that's the case, either try using a different skin or figure out which plugin is conflicting with the new skin. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43135 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator for SlimServer
...this script; it is EXACTLY what I have been hacking around with off and on, or been lazy and looking for someone to have created a solution, for years. Unfortunately for me, I had a drive failure last night and when the rescan occurred my db was empty, so I am doing a rebuild of the RAID and a rescan as we speak. I can hardly wait to run this. Again, thanks, a very nice addition and a real need met. -- mkgolden1 mkgolden1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14730 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41597 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB3 Wireless Signal Strength Drops For No Reason
I have had my SB3 for a couple of weeks now, and one problem that I keep having relates to the wireless signal strength. If the unit is idle (read: off) for a length of time (overnight) then the signal strength of the unit drops to ~20%. If I powercycle the unit then the signal strength usually returns to ~70%. When the unit is operating at ~20% the audio (flac) cuts in and out. When the unit is operating at ~70% the audio is fine. Since a powercycle of the SB3 returns the signal strength to ~70% and my laptop registers "Excellent" on its wireless card I feel safe to rule out a wireless network problem. I searched these forums for similar problems but failed to find any. -- Dubious Dubious's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15235 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
That rocks; thanks! -- EnochLight EnochLight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3392 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
JJZolx;266479 Wrote: > Why not? That would seem to be the ovious way of doing it, particularly > if synching and whole house audio are a priority. My guess: DRM. Sending an stream of decrypted audio over a wire or 802.11 interface is probably a no-no. Sending it over a proprietary encrypted 2.4G microwave connection is probably okay. Sonos doesn't use standard 802.11 for their network, they use their own transport layer. For some applications (ie, appeasing the silly music companies), this can be an advantage. For "polluting 2.4G even more than my neighbors" this is a drawback. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
andyg;266370 Wrote: > I don't claim to know anything about the Sonos architecture but I would > guess they only have one connection to the Rhapsody audio and then > transport the decrypted audio within their closed network to each > player. We can't do that, so each player needs a separate connection > to the Rhapsody server. > Right, they simply have one stream coming into the Sonos, then they synchronize that (because they are using their own 2.4GHZ mesh network to the other zones. By doing that, they can enforce a QoS for the sync. The streams sent to each zone are not in the open, BTW. -- jeffmc JeffMc Pacific Northwest jeffmc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11172 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
re: Rhapsody If it is a single stream, and n number of devices synchronize on their side through a server, or master or something, then it is one stream. (This is how Sonos multi-zone works). If it is three separate streams, and for some reason the three streams are being sync'd, then it is a 3 stream limit. -- jeffmc JeffMc Pacific Northwest jeffmc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11172 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Classic??????
Any chance of bringing the brushed aluminium (Aussie spelling) finish back for the classic? I'm going to get another SB3 (I prefer a screen rather than a headless device) and would love to see that sleek colour (Aussie spelling) scheme make a comeback... -- peejay Music is what feelings sound like - Unknown peejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7046 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43159 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
andyg;266370 Wrote: > I don't claim to know anything about the Sonos architecture but I would > guess they only have one connection to the Rhapsody audio and then > transport the decrypted audio within their closed network to each > player. We can't do that Why not? That would seem to be the ovious way of doing it, particularly if synching and whole house audio are a priority. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter - Sync
So I found one option via the remote on the SoftSqueeze/Settings menu. It would be good to have something on the SqueezeCenter console since you can add them, you should be able to selectively remove them. Also, I've removed the Settings menu from my SB3 to avoid a novice from tinkering.. Thus the Sync submenu item should be selected as an option to enable on the SB3 menu without all the other settings... -- spc337 spc337's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14315 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43177 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SqueezeCenter - Sync
Ok - I've looked but can't seem to find how to stop various players from sync'ing. I have a SB3 playing and added two SoftSqueeze players. Sync'ing worked. It wasn't clear from the interface how to detach a specific unit and/or all units from being sync'd. Hopefully this wasn't obvious in some FAQ or instructions but I did search a bit... -- spc337 spc337's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14315 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43177 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter Remote
No Transporter 2, but Sean just relased a new Transporter firmware with the 7.0 nightlies. Here's the thread on it: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42960 -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager Logitech Streaming Media Systems slimdevices.com mvalera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11086 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43173 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter Remote
Bummer - I would think a Transporter Bundle would make some sense given the price points. How about some news on a Transporter 2 ?? -- spc337 spc337's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14315 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43173 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
As soon as I receive the final one, I will post it. -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager Logitech Streaming Media Systems slimdevices.com mvalera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11086 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter Remote
Nobody has indicated that it will, so I'm guessing not. On Feb 6, 2008 6:06 PM, spc337 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone know if the Transporter will ship with the new controller? > > > -- > spc337 > > spc337's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14315 > View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43173 > > ___ > discuss mailing list > discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Transporter Remote
Anyone know if the Transporter will ship with the new controller? -- spc337 spc337's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14315 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43173 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Squeezebox owner, having trouble with Harmony 1000
I also have a squeezebox and the harmony 1000 remote. The first time i did the setup, the volume buttons were controlled through the squeezebox instead of my receiver, though i had chosen the receiver to control the volume. I then did a edit of the setup, and the buttons where missing in the "> display. Then i choose to delete all the listen to music settings, and when i did a setup again it worked like a charm. When i add the squeezebox in the list of components i choose it from slimdevices and writes squeezeboxt, and then it's called a musicserver squeezebox afterwards. I really hope you will get it to work, otherwise try to delete all settings in the remote and restart all over as a last solution. -- dolce24 dolce24's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43096 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controlling streams via squeezebox
You could look at this although it may need some tweaks for Windows. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=116967&postcount=4 Basically any string prefixed by mply:// will get passed to the $FILE$ in the custom-convert.conf file. You need to replace the mplayer command line option by VLC stuff. There may be some work with socketwrapper but I can't remember with SS 6.5. You can then create radio stations say for channel ABC as mply://ABC. If you put these entries in MyPicks or Favorites they can be given "nice" names. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43170 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
How about throwing us who pre-ordered a bone and post the manual. :) -- rkb0378 rkb0378's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=197 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Server upgrade - sound now dropping out
On Feb 6, 2008 3:58 PM, gborland < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am actually starting to suspect that it's Ubuntu 7.10's fault. This > appears to be the most brain-dead, stupid, embarrassing operating > system in recent history; it is apparently incapable of enabling DMA on > a bog-standard PATA hard drive on a run-of-the-mill motherboard. When you point one finger, four more point back at you. Think about it. Ben ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Classic??????
It hasn't been officially rebranded yet, but it's coming. In a few months you will see new boxes, collateral, and web stuff with the new name. For now it's still just the Squeezebox, tho you'll see us using Squeezebox and Squeezebox Classic interchangeably. -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager Logitech Streaming Media Systems slimdevices.com mvalera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11086 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43159 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Controlling streams via squeezebox
Hi, after I am able to stream audio via my Sat receiver to my squeezebox by transcoding the stream in vlc and send it to the slim server I want to take the next step. I want from the squeezebox be able to change the sat receivers stream and also the VLC decoding. Is anyone aware of a plugin doing this or similiar or point me in any other direction? Frank -- LegaxyTRX LegaxyTRX's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14595 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43170 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
There is no hate for Sonos here, it's a great product. We're just aiming to produce a better product with the Duet. I think we're well on our way. Mike -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager Logitech Streaming Media Systems slimdevices.com mvalera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11086 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Server upgrade - sound now dropping out
Michael Herger;266238 Wrote: > > Going back to SS 6.54 fixed it so it is a SC 7.0 thing. > > You didn't by chance read my previous answer? > > -- > > Michael Didn't work for me -- olc olc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14942 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43135 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPod, FLAC and Music Managers
I am another advocate for MediaMonkeydoes transcoding on the fly to my Ipodseems to kep everything neat and tidy as well just imho -- MuckleEck Alasdair 3 SB3s - Linn - Acoustat - AudioEngine 2 - Cambridge Audio 640R - Mordaunt Short MuckleEck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11301 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39762 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Server upgrade - sound now dropping out
I am actually starting to suspect that it's Ubuntu 7.10's fault. This appears to be the most brain-dead, stupid, embarrassing operating system in recent history; it is apparently incapable of enabling DMA on a bog-standard PATA hard drive on a run-of-the-mill motherboard. So, my main drive is performing at a tiny fraction of its potential speed. This might explain things. My previous Suse Linux installation, on the same hardware, was perfect in this respect. -- gborland gborland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8333 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43135 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Australians being screwed on price??
to all those who have suggested that I contact Logitech directly this was the first place I tried but besides for product support (you need to quote serial numbers) they do not offer an online contact. They may not want this type of feedback? The Asia Pacific headquarters is in Hong Kong - perhaps they need to do on the ground market research? I have written a letter to be posted - if anyone knows of a contact email address for I am happy to use that instead -- herljus herljus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43128 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Classic??????
The Squeezebox 3 is now the Squeezebox classic. The two portions of the Duet are the Squeezebox reciever and the Squeezebox controller. Hope that clears up the confusion! -- mparry Matt Parry-SMS Sales [EMAIL PROTECTED] 650-210-9400x2 mparry's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12345 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43159 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Which works better ? Computer or squeeze Network
Hrm.. maybe this should be a FAQ entry.. To start: SqueezeNetwork Pros: * No need for a PC or server at home. * Play same content from multiple locations. SqueezeNetwork Cons: * Limited bitrates due to internet bandwidth * Very few options for lossless content * Each Squeezebox must stream from the internet separately * High latency can make interface slow SqueezeCenter Pros: * Unlimited storage on your PC * Lots of transcoding options * Works with your Apple iTunes * Lots of plugins you can use/customize * No need for an internet connection * No limit on number of Squeezeboxes (due to internet bandwidth) SqueezeCenter Cons: * Requires you have a computer running * Requires you update the software from time to time -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43164 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Classic??????
It's just a name for the specific product, whereas "Squeezebox" now refers to the family which encompasses Duet, Receiver, and Controller. "Squeezebox V3" and "SB3" were never official product names, just what we call them here in the forum to differentiate from earlier models. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43159 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Classic??????
Where did you see that? I don't see anything here about "Classic" http://slimdevices.com/pi_squeezebox.html -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43159 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPod, FLAC and Music Managers
I used to have a 20GB iRiver H-120 which was rockboxed to support FLAC. It was a fantastic player (until it gave up after several years of reliable usage). I now have an 8GB Cowon iAudio 7 which supports FLAC natively (albeit not gaplessly). I do miss the larger storage space but it's a great little player. -- Hercules Hercules's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8679 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39762 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
eritor;266394 Wrote: > This might not be popular here , but I recommend the Sonos system. I don't find people here will object to differing opinions. (Well, maybe in the Audiophile forum ;) The sonos is a nice box. I really like the simple integrated amp and controller. I just find that Squeezebox fits my needs more. :-) -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
jaffacake;266378 Wrote: > Ah, so the open nature of the SB makes it complicated when connecting to > 3rd party proprietary networks like Rhapsody? > > Is this why i heard the new Duet controller isn't fully open source? Some of it's DRM, but mostly it is because the core design of the Squeezebox is "slim". The Squeezebox must always have a connection to a server (SqueezeCenter on your PC, or SqueezeNetwork on the internet) in order to function. Each Squeezebox is separate, they don't mesh or talk at all. They are slaves to the server. Sync is done by having the server control the playback timing. With a local server the internet streams are "proxied" so only one internet stream is required and the SqueezeCenter does the multiplication for the number of Squeezeboxes. The Squeezebox Controller (Duet remote) was fully open source last I checked out the code from the subversion server. :-) My personal recommendation is this: I would download the SqueezeCenter beta software and give it a try with SoftSqueeze. This will show you almost exactly how it will function with the the Squeezebox and Duet systems. -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
This might not be popular here , but I recommend the Sonos system. I looked at the Duet first, but after reading the forums here extensively (!) I realized that it can be buggy and/or a hassle it you are unlucky. Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of an open-source system, but I just want the system to work, if not because it's a big selling point to my wife (who is a little tired of my extensive tech-escapades). I talked to my friend who has the Sonos, and got a bundle. I'm exceptionally pleased, after 20 minutes I had the System connected and up and running on my Fit-PC (check it out at www.fit-pc.com , I love it), tablet, desktop, my wife's Mac and the included controller. I'll rate the Sonos-system a 10, first time ever for a product by me (and I've tried quite a few)! Also, the customer service is exceptional. Slim Devices is really really good as well, I've received great advice really fast here at the forum. But the Sonos experience was in a league of its own: I asked a few questions at the forums and got immediate replies.I sent a question by mail and got a free number to call from Sweden (!). I didn't call (solved it, it was about a firewall), but two weeks later I got a question by mail asking if the question was solved, if not they had added the answer to the FAQ. I had to call support later on, and it took some time to solve it, but I got told that "I'm here till we fix this" by the tech-guy. Turns out it was my router, not the Sonos. Tech- guy: "Glad to help". This kind of customer support is unheard of in Sweden. I know that many many people here are very happy with their Squeezeboxes, but Sonos is for me (and my wife as it turns out). I'm not in any way affiliated to Sonos. -- eritor eritor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15033 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Server upgrade - sound now dropping out
Michael Herger;266136 Wrote: > > There have been some firmware versions which didn't like updates. I've > needed to do factory reset on some of my SB2/3s in the 6.x series. > Might be worth a try: unplug SB, press and hold ADD while powering up. > You'll then have to reconfigure the player. > Thanks - I've just tried this and it doesn't make any difference. I've also checked the server settings and Flac files are set to play natively on the SB3. (I disabled WAV.) -- gborland gborland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8333 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43135 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
eritor wrote: > This might not be popular here , but I recommend the Sonos system. I > looked at the Duet first, but after reading the forums here extensively > (!) I realized that it can be buggy and/or a hassle it you are unlucky. > Uhmmm, this is a beta product we're talking about. If you want to compare things use an SB3 with SS 6.5. > by mail and got a free number to call from Sweden (!). I didn't call > (solved it, it was about a firewall), but two weeks later I got a > question by mail asking if the question was solved, if not they had > added the answer to the FAQ. I had to call support later on, and it > took some time to solve it, but I got told that "I'm here till we fix > this" by the tech-guy. Turns out it was my router, not the Sonos. Tech- > Sounds like you had 2 hassles. These forums are full of networking/router problems too. X. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Australians being screwed on price??
Is the Lord of the Web, the laughing forum maestro, online face of Logitec/SlimDevices going to comment again? It'd be useful for Michael to address the controversy he's stirred up with his remarks I guess. This is a long thread, generated in a very short time indeed. MC -- ModelCitizen Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. It's the music, stupid. http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43128 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Australians being screwed on price??
Ok, I think we've beaten up enough on the guy. If he hasn't gotten the message re his behaviours/ attitude by now he's never going to get it (one can only hope...). Don't expect an apology/ clarification either, I doubt one will be forthcoming. Fact is, whether we like it or not, SD is not SD anymore and distribution via Logitech's distribution channels was inevitable. Use the Internet, order from wherever you find things the cheapest and have it shipped to your home, wherever that may be. -- egd "All music also sounded completly different , and extremly musical." egd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3425 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43128 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
Re: how easy it is to sync, it's no different than how you sync on the player UI or web UI. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
Possibly, but don't get your hopes up about that. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
andyg;266379 Wrote: > Yes, having an open server means anything DRM-related must be in the > player firmware. Ah, so it's all because of DRM? So when all these companies finally ditch DRM you'll be able to sync all the rooms without trouble? Incidentally, I didn't get an answer on how easy it was to link rooms; can you oblige? Nobody sent me a press-pack yet else I'd test for myself. -- jaffacake jaffacake's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3206 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
Yes, having an open server means anything DRM-related must be in the player firmware. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
andyg;266375 Wrote: > Right, players don't talk to each other, only the server. In order to > share a single Rhapsody connection, the server would need to talk > directly to Rhapsody, and this is not possible because our server is > open source. Ah, so the open nature of the SB makes it complicated when connecting to 3rd party proprietary networks like Rhapsody? Is this why i heard the new Duet controller isn't fully open source? -- jaffacake jaffacake's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3206 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
Right, players don't talk to each other, only the server. In order to share a single Rhapsody connection, the server would need to talk directly to Rhapsody, and this is not possible because our server is open source. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
andyg;266370 Wrote: > I don't claim to know anything about the Sonos architecture but I would > guess they only have one connection to the Rhapsody audio and then > transport the decrypted audio within their closed network to each > player. We can't do that, so each player needs a separate connection > to the Rhapsody server. Why "can't" and not "don't"? Surely it's possible, you've just said that Sonos do it? So why can't you do the same? I thought the beauty of the Slim products was the open 802.11 standard that allows the devices to talk together easily? Are you saying they don't actually talk to one another, just share a remote control? -- jaffacake jaffacake's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3206 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Australians being screwed on price??
Graham, well said. Mvalera, you should consider yourself less as the disciplinarian for the Slim Devices community, and more as the PR face of the company. -- ds2021 ds2021's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10078 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43128 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
I don't claim to know anything about the Sonos architecture but I would guess they only have one connection to the Rhapsody audio and then transport the decrypted audio within their closed network to each player. We can't do that, so each player needs a separate connection to the Rhapsody server. The reason internet radio can't be synced well when on SN is because each player must make its own connection to the radio server, which means each player will most likely start at a different point in the audio. There is no way to sync the audio if they don't start from a known good point. This is why sync does work fine for track-based content such as Pandora - all the players will start playback at the same time with the same exact file. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Australians being screwed on price??
There are commercial forwarding services which can ship a US order overseas, e.g. http://www.maillinkplus.com -- y360 y360's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43128 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
> I just checked with the SqueeeNetwork guru, Andy G, and he said you can > sync up to three Squeezeboxes at a time to Rhapsody. So not four, but > nearly there. > BTW this is a policy imposed by Rhapsody, not an architectural > limitation This is very interesting because, as I understand it, Sonos can sync Rhapsody in all of up to 32 zones concurrently...with one Rhapsody subscription. Do SBs have a different licensing agreement? Or is it just the way you sync? Assuming you're using a different Rhapsody stream for each Duet zone, does that mean it would use 3 times the bandwidth on my internet pipe to play the same song in 3 rooms? andyg;266320 Wrote: > The 3-player limitation is Rhapsody's, it doesn't apply to any other > audio source. Syncing internet radio is hit or miss on SN because each > player receives a different audio stream and it's not possible to sync > those. If you want good sync your best bet is to run SqueezeCenter. So you can't sync internet radio effectively like Sonos does? Are you actually reading these streams multiple times when you could just share the one feed? Incidentally, how easy is it to link the rooms on the new Duet controller? Is it like just one button? -- jaffacake jaffacake's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3206 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Which works better ? Computer or squeeze Network
Which works better and what are the pros and cons of each one. Accessing my music files off my computer or uploading my music to the online music locker? thanks -- Bay City Bay City's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15076 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43164 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPod, FLAC and Music Managers
Check out jriver media center. It does a very nice job for me keeping my 4th gen and 6th gen ipod in sync with my FLAC collection. I use to do the perl script method of keeping FLAC and MP3 copies in sync, but found that to be a major pain in the butt. Mostly due to issues using iTunes. So when I dropped itunes I discovered how much nicer it was to have on-the-fly trancoding. If you have a dual core pc or better this is actually fairly fast. Also going this route if you like to rate your music (i do) on the ipod then when you sync it goes back to your flac copy. Same with playcounts. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39762 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Network question after EMP burst
"#2: Lightning to ground strikes do not cause EMPs." Sorry, I meant to type "EMF." Very helpful comment. Appreciate it. No, Sean, it doesn't seem to be able to pull an address from DHCP. Will try switching around my Squeezeboxes when I get home from work. Any fix for a fried ethernet port this side of a new Squeezebox? Thanks very much. Cordially, -- jaywills jaywills's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15379 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43145 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
zigzag;266344 Wrote: > Sorry to be dumb but I really need to understand this before I go > through the effort to sell the family on it and then buy it, and get it > working. > > Is it correct that if I want to synchronize Pandora or Rhapsody to play > the same song in more than 3 rooms for Rhapsody or more than one room > for Pandora or Internet Radio that I must run a server in my house? > > thanks > > zz Here's how it breaks down for sync: Code: SC7 SN (new datacenters) MP3 radio Yes No WMA radio No No Pandora Yes Yes Slacker Yes Yes MP3tunes Yes Yes Rhapsody Yes (up to 3) Yes (up to 3) LMA Yes Yes -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
radish;266329 Wrote: > Just curious - if I have a single Rhapsody subscription can I listen to > different tracks on different players at the same time? Yes, up to 3 different players at the same time. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
Sorry to be dumb but I really need to understand this before I go through the effort to sell the family on it and then buy it, and get it working. Is it correct that if I want to synchronize Pandora or Rhapsody to play the same song in more than 3 rooms for Rhapsody or more than one room for Pandora or Internet Radio that I must run a server in my house? thanks zz -- zigzag zigzag's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
Sorry, I misunderstood and thought you already had one SB. re 'fiddling' I think it's quite possible that you could get the duet, take it out of the box and have it working in a few minutes. You'll find some testimonials elsewhere here to that effect. It's not that there is some necessary difficult process to go through. And in fact if all you want to do is run Rhapsody you aren't likely to have to do much or any 'fiddling.' It's also possible that it doesn't just 'work' (maybe you're network is not set up right? etc.). You'll also find threads here to that effect as well though if you follow them through many of them have to do either with other issues outside the SB world (network, router, etc.) a number of them have to do with Slimserver (now SqueezeCenter) and setting up a PC-based musicc server. In any case, I am most definitely NOT a programmer and the total amount of 'fiddling' for me over the past several years has been quite minimal (I went through all sorts of hijinks unrelated to SB when ripping my extension CD collection. But that's another story altogether...). Money was not an issue for me. I did look carefuly at Sonos (having been an early adopter with the late Audiotron) and just thought the SB approach was better. As long as your willing to do a miminal bit of problem-solving and willing to avail yourself of the tremendous resources through this forum you should end up a happy camper. (btw, if you do go down this path you'll find a wealth of information elsewhere in this forum on powered speakers and other multi-room ideas with the SB) -- cshaida cshaida's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1981 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Preorder won't work
Not that ? It's realy nice offer, as the web shop was closed to us Europeans before. So I'm intrested in getting to the campaign page :) /Mikael PS There is no disclaimer in the mail or other info in said mail that suggest's that this offer is limited in any way, to for example US citizens only. so Logitech has offered me a duet combo for 399$ PPS thers a direct link to the campaign in the mail not the usual shop -- Mnyb Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43158 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Radio URL won't play (plays with WMP 11)
The server doesn't support HTTP streaming. See http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3383 -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43162 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
Just curious - if I have a single Rhapsody subscription can I listen to different tracks on different players at the same time? -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Radio URL won't play (plays with WMP 11)
Hi everyone, I'm using SlimServer 6.5.4, and try to use the "Tune in URL" function to stream this radio url: mms://wstream01.workzone.no/Aller_NRJ_KlemFM_High ... but it won't play. It plays completely fine on the same computer if I hit Ctrl+U and paste it into Windows Media Player 11... How come? Thanks in advance, -- RonHatl RonHatl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43162 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Preorder won't work
As you're in Sweden you are not allowed to order from the Slim Devices website - you have to use Logitech's site instead. Is that what you mean? -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk Patrick Dixon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=90 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43158 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Preorder won't work
You may be misreading the order page - it's a little confusing. Duet can be preordered, but not the controller and receiver separately. Are you not seeing the Duet item at all? -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43158 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
With the Duet and new Controller, I don't think there is any reason to go w/Sonos. $400 for first room v. $1k; $150 for subsequent rooms v.$400. Comparable sound (I think SB is better, but it is debatable) and vastly more functionality for SB. I don't even really think the Sonos is that much easier to use. With both, you need to set up a music server and that was the difficult part for me. The SB itself takes 3 minutes to get working once the server/network is up an running. Yes, I am a hack for SD players, but only after having done a lot of research into both options. -- Shredder Shredder's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11380 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
The 3-player limitation is Rhapsody's, it doesn't apply to any other audio source. Syncing internet radio is hit or miss on SN because each player receives a different audio stream and it's not possible to sync those. If you want good sync your best bet is to run SqueezeCenter. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
Just to clarify, I don't have any SBs (yet). As I understand the system, the Squeezenetwork is the internet based server so I don't have to run a server in my house. That is what I want as we have enough trouble keeping our PCs working. As I understand mvalera's response, if I'm using the squeezenetwork server, up to 3 rooms can play the same Rhapsody song at the same time. Two follow-on Q's Does the 3 room limit apply to Pandora and Internet Radio? Regarding the issue raised by cshaida: How much "fiddling" are we talking about to set up 4 rooms, control and play Rhapsody music and Internet Radio in the rooms without needing a PC server? thanks for being so responsive. zz -- zigzag zigzag's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Preorder won't work
The link works for me. Duet Pre-order is there as well as Receiver and Controller. Browser caching perhaps? -kdf -- kdf kdf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43158 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Squeezebox Classic??????
Hi - just curious when did the SB3 become the "Squeezebox Classic" ?? Missed that one.. -- James_B James_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11309 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43159 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Network question after EMP burst
Does the SB3 get an address from DHCP? If not, then either the SB3's ethernet port is fried, or some other equipment between it and the DHCP server is damaged. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43145 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
mvalera;266287 Wrote: > > I just checked with the SqueeeNetwork guru, Andy G, and he said you can > sync up to three Squeezeboxes at a time to Rhapsody. So not four, but > nearly there. BTW this is a policy imposed by Rhapsody, not an architectural limitation. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sc7?
Michael Herger;266137 Wrote: > > new app the previous version (6.5) will be deleted automatically or > do > > I have to do it manually beforehand. > > If you're on Windows SS6 will be uninstalled before installing SC7, > migrating the settings. > > -- > > Michael I am on MAC OS X 10.4. So will it be deleted as in Windows? -- ezsurfing ezsurfing's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12421 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42587 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Preorder won't work
I got the very nice preorder campaign mail :) with the duet combo for 399$ But when i press the link for preorder i Get the usual buy now now page ?? from wich you can't buy the duet ?? the link in the mail is https://secure.slimdevices.com/order/index.cgi?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=Duet_preorder&utm_campaign=Duet_launch -- Mnyb Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43158 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
zigzag;266275 Wrote: > > > Can my kids play their music in the playroom while my wife and I listen > to something different in the family room? Yes, each receiver can play a different Pandora channel. zigzag;266275 Wrote: > When we have a party can we make a Rhapsody playlist and play it in all > 4 rooms at the same time? I just checked with the SqueeeNetwork guru, Andy G, and he said you can sync up to three Squeezeboxes at a time to Rhapsody. So not four, but nearly there. zigzag;266275 Wrote: > If we are going to sleep and the kids are being too loud, can I turn > down their music from my Duet in the bedroom? Yes, you can control any receiver from anywhere in your home that you get wifi reception. zigzag;266275 Wrote: > Can I lock them out of turning it back up? Take away their SB Controller for the night. :) -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager Logitech Streaming Media Systems slimdevices.com mvalera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11086 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Network question after EMP burst
#1: Call Logitech support #2: Lightning to ground strikes do not cause EMPs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43145 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet vs Sonos
"When I ask my friends in the know they all say Sonos if you have the money and if not, Squeezebox. Im trying to understand the differences in a 4 room setup. It seems like Duets and powered speakers are quite a bit cheaper than a Sonos 4 room setup with speakers. " I would amend that a bit and say 'if you have the money AND IF you aren't willing to do any fiddling at all' Sonos biggest claim to fame is that it has been built as a consumer appliance (it just works out of the box). I don't think anybody really claims that Sonos has better audio quality and not many people claim it has additional features (other than the remote which the new sb remote becomes competitive). While there are a whole bunch of people (myself included) who think that SBs have better audio and more features -- as long as you are willing to fiddle. Since you appear to be already over the 'fiddling' hump (since you got your SB to work and seem to be happy with it) I don't really see the reason for switching to Sonos? "Can my kids play their music in the playroom while my wife and I listen to something different in the family room?" Yes "When we have a party can we make a Rhapsody playlist and play it in all 4 rooms at the same time?" Not sure but I can test that tonight (I've got 4 squeezeboxen at home) but somebody else will probably answer this before then. "If we are going to sleep and the kids are being too loud, can I turn down their music from my Duet in the bedroom? " Yes "Can I lock them out of turning it back up?" Don't know I have a tax refund coming and I want to spend it before someone gets a better idea. Thanks -- cshaida cshaida's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1981 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Australians being screwed on price??
Hi, Quick calculation: $399 = £203.41 + EU duty @ 5% 213.58 + 17.5% VAT = £250.95 without shipping costs. I pre-ordered DUET for £270 (with £9 discount code) Free Next Day Delivery. Price seems to be fair, from the above. Regards, PeteJ -- shinyspoon shinyspoon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4353 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43128 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Duet vs Sonos
I have about 700 CDs but I havent put the time into ripping them because I dont have time in my life with the kids and all that. I looked into a ripping service but then I discovered Rhapsody on my PC and $120/ year for unlimited music was cheaper than ripping and the kids love it because we always have the latest music as it comes out. But, were stuck in my home office with all the music in the world coming out of a PC and I want to get it into the playroom, our bedroom and the family/living/dining combo room. When I ask my friends in the know they all say Sonos if you have the money and if not, Squeezebox. Im trying to understand the differences in a 4 room setup. It seems like Duets and powered speakers are quite a bit cheaper than a Sonos 4 room setup with speakers. All music will come directly from Rhapsody. Im really excited by the idea that I wont need to run my own jukebox software or a PC at all! Sorry in advance if these questions are already answered. I did search and couldnt get a clear answer on Rhapsody separate from the server software. Can my kids play their music in the playroom while my wife and I listen to something different in the family room? When we have a party can we make a Rhapsody playlist and play it in all 4 rooms at the same time? If we are going to sleep and the kids are being too loud, can I turn down their music from my Duet in the bedroom? Can I lock them out of turning it back up? I have a tax refund coming and I want to spend it before someone gets a better idea. Thanks zz -- zigzag zigzag's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
Bay City;266262 Wrote: > Any word when the Squeezebox Duet will be available yet? judging from the pre-order page on this website, I'd guess within 3 weeks (+\- a day or two)... -- EnochLight EnochLight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3392 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Australians being screwed on price??
I was not going to get involved in this before reading mvaleras original note since I doubt Ill buy a duet anytime soon. But I am a very loyal customer, read the forums, own multiple machines and have some emotional committment to what happens to the company. The reason I have an emotional committment to one company and not another is complex but not necessarily because I am some kind of deluded European socalist. I believe the Squeezebox to embody some values. Obvious ones like quality and excellence but less obvious ones like the committment and effort of the slim devices workforce (as embodied by Sean) Its not that I delude myself they are anything other than a commercial company, rather that i take them to be a certain kind of commercial company i.e. one that takes a longish term view of customer relationships in the belief that it will do better in the long run. Thats some explanation of the thriving community the squeezebox has here and similar products (which have probably had more marketing money behind them) do not. In turn the thriving community leads to the rich variety of additional squeezebox features that are derived from the community itself and in trn enahnce the community. I AM NOT a deluded fool for taking slimdevices to have some values beyond "what can we get away with", Historically it certainly had values beyond that and indeed semmed positivley to believe that its relationship with its customers was part of what was going to make its prodycts special.. I FEEL that for reasons expressed above by Oktup the policy of PREVENTING us from buying direct at whatever regional price (plus tax plus shipping) seemed best value to us was one big symbol of the slimdevices I imagined I knew. OF COURSE they had local distributors who might be setting local rates but we could always buy direct. No longer. Now the pathetic thing to say is say "I'll never buy another Slim product again" a) it may not be true b) they might not care even a little bit but commercial success and failure is often about the marginal differences - the slight emotional engagement we have with one company and not another - Slimdevices loses that at its peril. And finally Mvalera - really - you come over as the worst kind of one dimensional capitalism-is-faultless-so-shutup-socialist-whiners apologist. That can't be good for business. Graham -- gandt gandt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=586 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43128 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
Before the end of February. On Feb 6, 2008 10:46 AM, Bay City <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Any word when the Squeezebox Duet will be available yet? > > > -- > Bay City > > Bay City's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15076 > > View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 > > ___ > discuss mailing list > discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
Any word when the Squeezebox Duet will be available yet? -- Bay City Bay City's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15076 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Home Server (search problem)
byKnight;266248 Wrote: > You should copy all of your music to \\SERVER\Music. > > You should also set SqueezeCenter (or SlimServer) to find the music at > \\SERVER\Music (not D:\Music). That way, if you have folder duplication > turned on for the Music folder and you lose a hard drive, you can keep > streaming tunes with missing a beat. Will do! Thanks! -- phicar2 phicar2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2146 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42549 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Re: [slim] Australians being screwed on price??
mvalera;266058 Wrote: > Do we have that all out of our systems now? > > Al the whining doesn't change the fact that each region sets their own > prices. The prices set are reflective of the local markets. They are > not in any way based on exchange rates. > > You may not agree with it, but that's not screwing the customer. I am compelled to reply due to your provocative tone ;) It's all well and good to set prices according to local markets, but what is *also* being done is an artificially imposed trade barrier (by restricting who can order from the web-store). In a proper free market situation, the customer would be free to buy directly from whichever market they chose. But unfortunately, although the good old multinationals are happy to be globalist when demanding unfettered access to cheap labour and production, they're strangely anti-competitive when it comes to allowing the customers to play by the same rules. Hence some of the whining, I suppose ;P -- oktup oktup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1117 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43128 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver User Access Restriction
aha, that looks promisingmany thanks, i did not see that one. Will try now A -- addyman addyman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15380 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43147 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Live365 presets not updating
Andy, my Live365 web site "favorites" or "presets" are reflected in Squeezecenter in real time (I recall the same was the case in Slimserver), assuming of course that I am logged in via the SC/SB interface. -- ds2021 ds2021's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10078 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43043 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Home Server (search problem)
phicar2;266190 Wrote: > Cool, thanks! One more (stupid) clarification question: is the > best/easiest thing to do to copy all my music to "c:\music" folder on > my WHS (or d:\music? I do have 2 hard drives, is one option better > than the other?) > Thanks! > > Then I assume in the future as I rip more CDs I would do that on a > client machine and then just copy those files to that folder on the > WHS? You should copy all of your music to \\SERVER\Music. You should also set SqueezeCenter (or SlimServer) to find the music at \\SERVER\Music (not D:\Music). That way, if you have folder duplication turned on for the Music folder and you lose a hard drive, you can keep streaming tunes with missing a beat. -- byKnight Really, it was like that when I got here. byKnight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7011 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42549 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver User Access Restriction
Have you tried the NoSetup plugin to see if that meets your needs? Its in the PluginServerUtilities section of the wiki page on Plugins. -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43147 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Server upgrade - sound now dropping out
> Going back to SS 6.54 fixed it so it is a SC 7.0 thing. You didn't by chance read my previous answer? -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Slimserver User Access Restriction
Hi there, I have a Slimserver running from my shed office in the garden to my house via a ssh over the internet. Is there a way to have user rights and restrictions...ie I do not want my kids to change any of the settings or fiddling on the left hand pane, though would like them to make their own playlists etc. Can i make some of the menu items in the left pane when looking at http://x.x.x.x:9000 dissapear or be greyed out so only an admin can change them...? many thanks A -- addyman addyman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15380 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43147 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Network question after EMP burst
Good morning. As some of you may have read, we had tornados/bad weather here in Arkansas last night (we're OK). We had a huge lightning strike in my back yard that apparently generated a substantial enough electromagnetic pulse to blow all of my computers (and almost every microprocessor controlled appliance) off line. While I have been successful in getting almost everything back up, one of my remote wired Squeezeboxes 3 refuses to find/log into the network. I'm running a Leopard (10.5.1) server using only an ethernet-wired network. Have done the reconfig routine on the computer, the network hubs and the Squeezeboxes, yet I can get only one Squeezebox 3 to log onto my Slimserver network. Any ideas? Thanks very much. Cordially, Jay Wills -- jaywills jaywills's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15379 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43145 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Server upgrade - sound now dropping out
gborland;266128 Wrote: > I've just upgraded from Slimserver 6.3 to 7.0 unstable. The server > hardware hasn't changed (apart from a bigger hard drive), the network > (wireless) hasn't changed, the location of the SB3 hasn't changed, but > now music is unlistenable - there's constant dropout. > > My music library is all Flac, and with SS 6.3 it would quite happily > stream wirelessly to the SB3 with no dropout. > > What's changed in the server software between 6.3 and 7 which might > affect this? If it's relevant, the server is Ubuntu 7.10 server on a > PIII 600Mhz with 384MB RAM. It was a clean install of 7.0 and I didn't > attempt to keep any of the old configuration. > > Interestingly the new server installation streams perfectly to another > PC (still wireless) running Softsqueeze. Something peculiar to the SB3 > which it doesn't like? I had exactly the same issue with a Windows XP system with a Core2Duo and 4GB RAM. Flac files, clean install, etc. Going back to SS 6.54 fixed it so it is a SC 7.0 thing. -- olc olc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14942 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43135 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Australians being screwed on price??
mattybain;266103 Wrote: > What being called kids and being told to put up or shut up is > non-confrontational? > > Sadly it does seem like SlimDevices are being swallowed by the > corporate bemoth and this attitude of screw you just confirms it. > > Yes Logitech are taking the piss with European / Aus pricing, all we > can do is vote with our wallets and never buy another Logitech device. Or maybe Logitech/Slim Devices picked the wrong guy to explain the logic of pricing (because no logic was given). -- olc olc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14942 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43128 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Australians being screwed on price??
mvalera;266067 Wrote: > The Slimdevices.com store is has been limited to the Americas and a few > select Asian countries since the end of the Summer. It was not a recent > change. > > That we continue to operate the .com at all has actually been a bit of > a minor miracle. You may have noticed that Logitech operates its own > website. Support for our own website is not universally held inside > Logi. > > You may feel I was being blunt, and you may not agree with different > prices in different countries, but kids that's the way things are. It's > the way they've been for several months, and it's the way it's going to > be from now on. You can't have it both ways. On one hand you say Logitech is a big multinational and attribute the gouging to that. Then you say you operate your own website. And a blunt "it's the way it's going to be" isn't much of a reason for the discriminatory pricing. Finishing up with a demeaning "kids" was a bad idea. -- olc olc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14942 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43128 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Australians being screwed on price??
mvalera;266058 Wrote: > Do we have that all out of our systems now? > > Al the whining doesn't change the fact that each region sets their own > prices. The prices set are reflective of the local markets. They are > not in any way based on exchange rates. > > You may not agree with it, but that's not screwing the customer. But why does each region set its own prices? Doesn't gouging in one region lead to transhipping? Why shouldn't one buy in the US and then sell in Australia, say? BTW, what was offensive is the tone and attitude. -- olc olc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14942 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43128 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Australians being screwed on price??
radish;266185 Wrote: > In my experience going directly to the manufacturer is almost never the > cheapest way to buy something - SD has historically been unusual and > it's largely been because they were the main distribution point. Indeed. The manufacturer won't sell for less than the recommended retail price, precisely because it cannot undercut its distributors (or it soon won't have any). However, there is nothing to stop a distributor accepting a smaller margin on a sale by selling below the RRP. Note that this means that if the manufacturer and the distributor sell for the same price, the manufacturer will make a bigger profit if you buy from them rather than from the distributor... -- Khuli http://www.last.fm/user/khuli Khuli's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=851 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43128 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 rebuffering and not recovering
jth;266175 Wrote: > I tried a network test at 320 kbps and was able > to get 98%. Wait a sec, you only get 98% at 320 kbps?!? That indicates a very severe wireless bandwidth problem. It's amazing it works at all. You should be getting 100% at 1000 kbps at least (and that won't allow you to play anything but MP3s, no FLAC or WAV). -- Mark Lanctot Ben Klass: "I won't even eat a pre-7.0 meal. Well, unless it involves bacon." Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43142 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
