Re: [slim] SB far too expensive?
O dear. Such passion. I ask the question in a fairly disinterested sort of way. It is surely worth asking. For my part I like my SB3 very much and listen to it all the time. With an external DAC it betters my Quad FM tuner and streamed FLAC betters my Quad 77 CD Player. I listen mostly to hi bit classical music radio streams, and to BBC Radio 4. I do not object to the price I paid for my SB3, and yes, I have had my money's worth. I simply observe that a small cheap PC will do more for less. Others have observed there are other hardware solutions to music streaming, and very soon media streaming boxes that handle video as well as audio formats will be cheaper than an SB3. It may be that they will not manage audio as elegantly or as well. The SB3 internal DAC is better than some, but not good enough for me; but I appreciate the difference in production cost between including it or not will be very small. Half a duet would do me as I hardly ever look at the SB3 screen, and I usually tap the keys of the laptop on the coffee table in front of me rather than try and find the remote. I bought the SB3 after quite a lot of personal research. I bought it to sidestep the re-sampling/bit-perfect issues of Windows hardware; I bought it because it was a silent box; and I bought it because of the (mostly) open source software that I could see would develop in response to a myriad of different needs. Was it worth the cost to me? Most certainly, yes. Does it still cost too much? Probably, looking at what other boxes do and contain. And yet the quality of construction is far better than many cheap boxes. Let the discussion continue. -- Labarum Brian Squeezebox 3 Classic and Virgin Cable Box Beresford DAC TC-7510 MK6/4 - Quad 405-2 refurbished by 405man Quart 980s Speakers Boom in kitchen. Labarum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19963 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64207 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB far too expensive?
pfarell and st2000- I suspect for most things, reality lies in between your two estimates (each of which I think is probably too extreme). But it's true that some products are more parts intensive, others more software intensive, and for these products there's no separate charge for the software. And it's not free. -- Goodsounds Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64207 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB3 suddenly dropping off wired network :(
Hi all, After about a year of no problems with our Squeezebox 3 (it's one of the last Slim Devices branded units), it has stopped playing in the middle of a song and disappeared from the network twice, and I can't get it back today :( It's on a wired network, running from Squeezecenter (7.3.2) on a local PC, the Squeezebox has a static IP address, and has been playing mostly local FLAC files and sometimes internet radio stations with no problems. The other day, when the SB3 quit playing, pressing the power button on the remote made it say it was waking up squeezecenter ... connecting to squeezecenter ... unable to connect to squeezecenter, and retrying multiple times didn't fix it. Next we tried stopping and starting squeezecenter on the host PC and power cycling the SB3, which got it back and playable again, but today, no dice. After the music suddenly stopped today, I tried restarting squeezecenter and the SB3 to no avail, so I did more troubleshooting, but with no change so far: - dust-off blast in the network port on the SB3 - different network cable - different switch port - connecting directly to the router (running DD-WRT 2.3 SP2) instead of the gigabit switch (linksys EG008W ver. 3) everything else is also connected through - DHCP instead of static IP address (unable to find DHCP server error message quickly or unable to obtain IP address error after the 30 second timeout) - pinging the static IP address of the SB3 from a PC on the network (no reply) - hardware reset from the menu (no change, other than after reconfiguring, it didn't know about our squeezecenter server, so I had to attempt to connect by it's IP address, to no avail) - connect to squeezenetwork (unable to find an address for squeezenetwork) On the router and switch I'm connecting to, the network lights for the port I have the SB3 connected to are always on correctly, and when I disconnect the cables, the SB3 complains about the Ethernet cable not being connected. When connected, the SB3 can't see anything on the network anymore, and nothing on the network can see it anymore. No changes have been made to the network for a while, the last was adding the gigabit switch a few months ago. Other items on the network are Windows and Linux PCs and a Popcorn Hour A-100 networked media streamer (no, even though it plays FLAC files, it is definitely not a substitute for a squeezebox. It's great for video though, but I digress.) I'm beginning to think the network port or chip on the SB3 has become flaky or partly died :( Is a bad/flaky network port a known hardware failure on the SB3? Can anyone think of anything else to try? Thanks in advance for any help! -- guirara guirara's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30844 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64222 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Rhapsody controls
Hello there! Does anyone know if it is possible when using duet controller to shuffle all songs in my Rhapsody library? -- ymuscat ymuscat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30843 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64221 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
p-cubed;429826 Wrote: > I recently updated my server to SC-7.4-26890-whs.msi. With this build, > iPeng 1.1.2 is essentially non-functional. Crashes and closes down with > almost any operation. My previous SC install, SC-7.4-25661-whs.msi, > worked beautifully with 1.1.2. > > Is this likely to be fixed soon? I will be reverting to my older SC > build until then, as I am completely addicted to iPeng. > No, this is not likely to be fixed soon. I wrote it earlier in this thread and it's also written in the iTunes store description. In 7.4 the communication protocol mapping got changed and this is what causes the crashes. Since 7.4 is not stable right now and changes are coming in on a daily basis, there's little use in doing and updates and get them past Apple just to see that they won't work anyway. I will support 7.4 as soon as it's released or at least the interface is stable, but probably no earlier than in iPeng 1.2 -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I am leaving Logitech!
Sean - quite simply - Squeezebox has changed my life. Music plays continuously in my house all weekend. No more changing cd's, looking through jewel cases wondering what to play next..those are the olden days now. Thanks so very much and good luck in whatever you do. Mike -- Aztek Aztek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63759 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB far too expensive?
stuart wrote: > the raw materials for the basic SB to be around $150. Roughly speaking, > the price of a product should be about twice the raw materials. No, for most electronics, the retail price is five to ten times parts price. Sean and others have said that the VFD is way expensive. Which is why the Receiver is less expensive. The nearly free cost of netbooks and nettops is amazing, I wonder how anyone can make any profit at their current costs. After buying three SB, a Duet, Boom and Transporter, it should be clear when I stand on the value vs price discussion. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB far too expensive?
Labarum;429906 Wrote: > When you look at the cost of a small form PC, does that make the SB far > too expensive? > > This is cheaper that an SB3 in UK > > http://www.oyyy.co.uk/product.php/92102/acer-aspire-revo-r3600l-ultra-small-form-factor-pc-atom--n270--1.6ghz-1024mb-8gb-solid-state-drive-wlan-linux--geforce-9400--revo-multimedia-keyboard-and-optical-mouse?CAWELAID=346463406 > > Granted, it only has an HDMI out, but the eeeBox has an optical out > even if it costs more > > http://www.plemix.com/macc-asus-eeebox-desktoppc > > A small form PC can run silent and headless, and do all that an SB will > and more? > > The small form PC has more electronics in it, yet costs less. Why? You have to be kidding. The SB3 that I bought almost 2 years ago is one of the things that I really think was too cheap (the price) compared to the enjoyment I've gotten from it. It's been wonderful and beyond that a lot of fun for me and my family. Now that I've used it I would have paid a lot more for it. I guess you either get it or you don't. We love it and it's expanded my music appreciation considerably allowing us to explore our music so much more than before. Very few devices have made me feel that I didn't pay enough for it and this has. If it's not for you then no problem but let it be known that it is for a bunch of people. -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64207 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB far too expensive?
Labarum wrote: > When you look at the cost of a small form PC, does that make the SB far > too expensive? > > This is cheaper that an SB3 in UK > > http://www.oyyy.co.uk/product.php/92102/acer-aspire-revo-r3600l-ultra-small-form-factor-pc-atom--n270--1.6ghz-1024mb-8gb-solid-state-drive-wlan-linux--geforce-9400--revo-multimedia-keyboard-and-optical-mouse?CAWELAID=346463406 > > Granted, it only has an HDMI out, but the eeeBox has an optical out > even if it costs more > > http://www.plemix.com/macc-asus-eeebox-desktoppc > > A small form PC can run silent and headless, and do all that an SB will > and more? > > The small form PC has more electronics in it, yet costs less. Why? The VFD found in most SBs is expensive. The OEM price is probably close to $100US. And, you could raise a holy war here if you want to talk about the D/A converter used in SB vs. other D/A converters. I suspect the raw materials for the basic SB to be around $150. Roughly speaking, the price of a product should be about twice the raw materials. So $300 is about right. If you still think the price is too high, the server code and protocol used is open to the public. That is, there is enough information on the web to build your own client. Many have. I have suspected the cheapest possible client would be certain types of routers with a USB port and a cheap USB to stereo dongle. Some routers can be re-purposed (hacked) for internet radio: > http://hackaday.com/2008/12/19/wifi-streaming-radio/ ...it should not be very difficult to add a squeeze center client to such a project. This approach, cost wise, should not exceed $150. Actually, if you are frugal, the router should not be more than $50 and the stereo dongle not more than $15. Do not forget this is a hack and you will probably have to crack open the router and flash it with OpenWrt software. And, at this price, there is no local display, no local IR receiver and no remote control. But that does not mean you can't hack them in as well! ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rhapsody Error for the last 2 days
Rhapsody's service is notoriously flaky. Great when it works, makes you want to tear your hair out when it doesn't. I've seen the error you're getting numerous times, although my service has been fine the past couple of days. You should consider posting here as well to let Real know about your issues: http://real.lithium.com/real/board?board.id=InstallingRhapsody -- ajkidle ajkidle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18929 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64174 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Updated Squeezebox products?
TiredLegs;429034 Wrote: > .. if I were Logitech, I'd go after the guy and smack him with legal > fees.) Very, very unlikely. Unless I'm missing something, there would be nothing to be gained by doing so. -- Goodsounds Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63727 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] iriver Lplayer
Not sure if this is the right play to ask this, but. My audio files are all in flac and were ripped using dBpoweramp onto a ReadyNas. My SBox Duet is reading the tags just fine- the library allows me to search by artist, album, etc So I just got an iriver Lplayer and, no matter how I try it, I can't get the library to work right after transferring files from my ReadyNas. The music will play, but I can only view by tracks. Artist, album, etc show nothing in the menu. Anyone have any clue? -- jh901 FLAC --> ReadyNAS/SqueezeCenter Living Room: SB Rcvr | Cary Audio Design CPA 1 | Krell KST-100 | Totem Model-1 Bedroom: SB Rcvr | HR Desktop Amp | AKG K 701 cans / Audioengine2 jh901's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18175 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64218 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Updated Squeezebox products?
I think a chumby style boom box would be a nice addition, but I would say they need to do a lot of work on the Squeezeplay software. -- sander sander's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63727 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rhapsody Error for the last 2 days
Thanks. Somthing seems to be improving. I now get the track to play but it keeps rebuffering. Other services are not affected. -- Krishna FLAC (DIY mini-ITX server + ClarkConnect + SC7) -> SB3 -> Primare I-30 -> Sonus Faber Concertinos Krishna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16041 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64174 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can BOTH computer and SB be connected wirelessly?
kowloonside;429871 Wrote: > Is having both the computer and receiver connected wirelessly possible? > I understand there could be some data throughput issues with making two > hops like this. But shouldn't the receiver at least be able to connect > to squeezecenter on the wirelessly connected computer? I am running Squeezecenter and three SBs wirelessly using a five year old Linksys router. No problems at all; the system is rock steady. -- Peter314 Peter314's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14028 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64200 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can BOTH computer and SB be connected wirelessly?
kowloonside;429939 Wrote: > Both the computer and the SBR have to be hard-wired to the router in > order to use this tool. Oops, I overlooked that detail. Sorry about that chief. I don't know what else to suggest. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64200 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can BOTH computer and SB be connected wirelessly?
As mentioned, I am using the net-UDAP tool to adjust all settings on the SBR. Both the computer and the SBR have to be hard-wired to the router in order to use this tool. So I checked the IP address of my computer when it was wirelessly connected and then start Squeezecenter and verify on the information settings screen that it is using that IP address as the server IP address. Then I plug both components in and use the tool to configure the server IP address on the SBR to match the wireless IP address of the computer. But when I reset the SBR, it still can't find the music source (SC on the computer). I even tried stopping and re-starting SC after updating the configuration just in case SC has switched over to the wired IP address while I was doing the configuration but still no luck. -- kowloonside kowloonside's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23798 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64200 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB far too expensive?
I suppose you could even just use a cheap laptop or the mini computers, assuming you had a decent digital out or a no mux analog out to speakers or an amp. But to me that defeats the whole purpose of the SB players: to free yourself from directly interacting with (or even seeing) a computer. :) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64207 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
You have a point there rickwookie. Still this thread is supposed to be for feedback of any kind on SlimControl and I appreciate arztde's enthusiasm. There have been few bug reports so far and I do need to know about any issues so I can fix them. Plus, I answer every post. But - yes, the thread is taking the route of most. Which is unfortunate, for I was hoping for more bugs being brought to my attention. -- Locuth Use your PDA as SqueezeBox remote -- http://www.sciatec.de/SlimControl Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Changing device name, email address
pg...@csd.net;429908 Wrote: > I want to change my email address on everything related (including > squeezenetwork and forum accounts) On SqueezeNetwork: - log into your SN account - go to Accounts - go to SqueezeNetwork tab - enter your password in the required box - change your e-mail address to whatever you want to use - click Save On this forum: - click User CP - click Edit Your Details - click Edit Email and Password" button" - change the e-mail address to whatever you want to use - click Save pg...@csd.net;429908 Wrote: > and the device names on the classics. On SqueezeNetwork: - log into your SN account - go to Players - click Settings for the Player for which you want to change the name - change the name - click Apply - repeat for any other Players -- BastiaanR It's not a problem, it's a challenge. BastiaanR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22178 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64208 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB far too expensive?
Labarum;429906 Wrote: > > > The small form PC has more electronics in it, yet costs less. Why? Please don't think that the price of an item is solely determined by adding the cost to manufacture to a summation of the piece parts or raw materials it contains. The world is not so simplistic! What else is considered? Software development costs (which are continuing and very substantial for the SB line). The prices, availability, similarities and differences and relative strengths and weaknesses of other products that are either substitutes or competitors. Distribution, market trends, warranty, the cost of companion products, and on and on and on. And arguably one hundred other factors. And arguably none of them at all sometimes, in cases when a "whatever the traffic will bear" approach is used. -- Goodsounds Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64207 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB far too expensive?
Labarum;429906 Wrote: > The small form PC has more electronics in it, yet costs less. Why? More electronics? Do you mean a greater number of components? One individual component (a top-end CPU for example) could easily cost more than that whole PC, so the amount of 'electronics' is not a measure of anything. Personally, I think the Squeezebox is very well priced. If you look at HiFi equipment in general, good quality components have no real price ceiling. Some interconnects can cost more than a Squeezebox. Just because a device appears to do 'more' it doesn't necessarily do anything 'better'. Would you question the price of a high-performance sports car if you found a cheaper car that had electric windows and air-conditioning, if the high-performance car lacked those features? I use a cheap PC (built from scraps) for my SqueezeCenter server, and I thought I may as well make use of it as another music zone (using SqueezeSlave) since it's got sound output (the motherboard built-in sound device) and has to be switched on anyway, and using another device such as a Squeezebox Receiver is just a waste or electricity. When I played music on it, I realised how horible it sounded compared to my SB3. Sure the manufacturer managed to add sound to the board using very cheap electronics, but it's no use for anything much other than system beeps. When you're talking about using digital audio outputs (as I do on one of my SB3s), the argument changes slightly, since I wouldn't think that you're going to get anything different out of the SFF PC than an SB receiver, but then you're simply not using half the device you've bought (the DAC). Then again, the receiver is only £85. Comparing it to the SB3 (or Classic as it's now known), the SFF PC has no display (those displays are not cheap you know, and I think they're excellent) and no IR remote interface. -- rickwookie rickwookie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64207 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB far too expensive?
Quoting Labarum (labarum.3tdjhz1244316...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com): > > When you look at the cost of a small form PC, does that make the SB far > too expensive? > > This is cheaper that an SB3 in UK > > http://www.oyyy.co.uk/product.php/92102/acer-aspire-revo-r3600l-ultra-small-form-factor-pc-atom--n270--1.6ghz-1024mb-8gb-solid-state-drive-wlan-linux--geforce-9400--revo-multimedia-keyboard-and-optical-mouse?CAWELAID=346463406g > > Granted, it only has an HDMI out, but the eeeBox has an optical out > even if it costs more > > http://www.plemix.com/macc-asus-eeebox-desktoppc > > A small form PC can run silent and headless, and do all that an SB will > and more? > > The small form PC has more electronics in it, yet costs less. Why? What size is the display on that? Oh, it doesn't have one... The display is likely by far the largest manufacturing expense. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
rickwookie;429914 Wrote: > Just a thought guys, but wouldn't the last 15 posts have been better as > PMs between yourselves? This thread is getting a bit long and this > latest part is basically irrelevant to anyone else right? Ok, sorry. It is just so i test the last steps and thought its interesting for the most. Because the next release is IMHO soon. And it gives a spirit somehow that you can expect something like a big surprize. IMHO it is perfect only Network Problems exist here. In the German forum it is known that the first 2 releases are developed without any hardware. Most Users have the HTC and i need the Diamond back next week because its a present... I hope someone of HTC users involve and tell me the mistake is mine and not the software. But you are right. -- arztde arztde's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29528 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Just a thought guys, but wouldn't the last 15 posts have been better as PMs between yourselves? This thread is getting a bit long and this latest part is basically irrelevant to anyone else right? -- rickwookie rickwookie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Locuth;429735 Wrote: > Can you tell me in what situations SC hangs ? > Because it never does on my PDA (Softsqueeze & Duet). I got today the Classic and it runs now 10 hours without brake stable. No crash or something important. A major difference than only the squeezeplay solution. If i let the HTC a time from recharging away, than it goes after a while from the Wirles away. Is it normal that you let him disconnect from the Network and must reconnect again?. Because this takes sometimes a bit. Or the PDA controller do not find a network. Or it takes a while. Sometimes i Stop the Aplication and restart than. No Problem than. -- arztde arztde's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29528 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Quick way to add a CD to library without rescanning
In addition to the five hundred ripped CD's in my music folder, I would like to have occasional access to another very large directory of MP3's. This directory is on the same machine. I don't want this MP3 directory scanned by SC, ever. I just want to browse through it and play things occasionally. How do I set this up? Thanks! -- p-cubed p-cubed's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15028 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64148 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB far too expensive?
When you look at the cost of a small form PC, does that make the SB far too expensive? This is cheaper that an SB3 in UK http://www.oyyy.co.uk/product.php/92102/acer-aspire-revo-r3600l-ultra-small-form-factor-pc-atom--n270--1.6ghz-1024mb-8gb-solid-state-drive-wlan-linux--geforce-9400--revo-multimedia-keyboard-and-optical-mouse?CAWELAID=346463406 Granted, it only has an HDMI out, but the eeeBox has an optical out even if it costs more http://www.plemix.com/macc-asus-eeebox-desktoppc A small form PC can run silent and headless, and do all that an SB will and more? The small form PC has more electronics in it, yet costs less. Why? -- Labarum Brian Squeezebox 3 Classic and Virgin Cable Box Beresford DAC TC-7510 MK6/4 - Quad 405-2 refurbished by 405man Quart 980s Speakers Boom in kitchen. Labarum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19963 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64207 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Net::UDAP - SqueezeBox Receiver configuration tool
Cira, I suggest you look at the Sample Usage page: https://projects.robinbowes.com/Net-UDAP/trac/wiki/SampleUsage To find the adddress of your squeezecenter: goto the web interface Click "settings" (bottom right) Click the "Information" tab Server IP Address is the third line down. If you have DHCP on your wired network, something like this should work: discover conf 1 set interface=1 lan_ip_mode=1 squeezecenter_address=a.b.c.d save_data reset where a.b.c.d is the Server IP Address you looked up earlier. R. -- robinbowes robinbowes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=480 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57861 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Net::UDAP - SqueezeBox Receiver configuration tool
in other words, i feel like ihave no idea what i'm doing, haha -- cira cira's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57861 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can BOTH computer and SB be connected wirelessly?
Yes, both the computer and the SB can be connected wirelessly. As you are aware, you could run into throughput issues with a "double-hop", but it can be done. Have you gone through the setup procedure for the SBR again? I know that if you do things the other way (ie, starting out with the SBR wireless and then choosing a wired connection instead) you need to re-do the configuration from the beginning. Just sticking the ethernet cable in the SBR doesn't make it switch over to wired. I don't know for certain, but it's possible that the same is true in reverse: the SBR might not kick over to wireless by just pulling out the ethernet cable. Worth a try. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64200 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Comparison between iPeng and Controller?
I have iPeng on an iPod Touch. I have never tried the Logitech Controller. I like iPeng. Does a great job of browsing through music services on Squeezenetwork. I can easily discover much more music this way than using the Squeezebox remote. The iPod Touch has become my main "computer" for email, web browsing, etc. It is so convenient to use anywhere in the house on the wireless network. I don't think Logitech is suffering from the use of iPeng. Just the opposite. iPeng's added functionality for the Squeezebox I assume incentivizes more sales of Squeezeboxes. -- mortslim mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64145 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Can BOTH computer and SB be connected wirelessly?
In my old place, I had my computer connected via ethernet cable to my router and my squeezebox connected wirelessly. It is a standalone receiver that I configured with the net-UDAP tool but mostly didn't give me any problems. In my new place, the jacks for the modem are far away from anywhere I want to set up my computer and I am trying to avoid running cables across the room. I assumed that I would just be able to update the IP address on my receiver to the IP assigned to my wirelessly-connected computer. But so far, nothing but that old blue light. Just to check everything, I did stretch wires across the room so my computer could be hard-wired to my router again and sure enough, that method still works as well as it ever did. Is having both the computer and receiver connected wirelessly possible? I understand there could be some data throughput issues with making two hops like this. But shouldn't the receiver at least be able to connect to squeezecenter on the wirelessly connected computer? Thanks for any and all advice. -- kowloonside kowloonside's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23798 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64200 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Net::UDAP - SqueezeBox Receiver configuration tool
I, too, was "tricked" into buying a classic which i assumed (based on what I read) would be expandable via receivers. I now am in the situation where I have a working classic and a receiver that I can do nothing with. I'm attempting to use the UDAP tool as well as the .exe Peter compiled, but I'm stuck at one point "Type set server_address=192.168.1.50 squeezecenter_address=192.168.1.50 wireless_SSID=3Com wireless_wep_key_0=abcde wireless_wep_on=1 ◦(substitute the correct wireless values for your network, and the correct IP address of your Squeezecenter) " I have no need to go wireless since I have ethernet in my room. How do i tell it to look for the wired connection? Beyond that how do you find the IP of your squeeze center? thanks for any help! -- cira cira's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57861 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Controller on horizon?
i purchased my Transporter about a year and a half ago now, as soon as i saw the Duet Controller i knew it would they would be a great combo.and i imported one from USA. never had a problem with any Slim Devices/Logitech gear. dennis -- dennis55 dennis55's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8884 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64022 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
I recently updated my server to SC-7.4-26890-whs.msi. With this build, iPeng 1.1.2 is essentially non-functional. Crashes and closes down with almost any operation. My previous SC install, SC-7.4-25661-whs.msi, worked beautifully with 1.1.2. Is this likely to be fixed soon? I will be reverting to my older SC build until then, as I am completely addicted to iPeng. Thanks! -- p-cubed p-cubed's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15028 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I am leaving Logitech!
I would feel remiss if I did not add my thanks. We have been squeezeboxed, not just the quantity of gear we have purchased, but how it constantly plays a role in our lives, from waking to alarms of streaming news from around the world, to falling asleep to favorite classics. Thanks to Sean, but also to his idea of building this open community, which I hope, exceeded his expectations. Eric -- ericj ericj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3230 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63759 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Quick way to add a CD to library without rescanning
Yeah, no need to make a folder for "new music", just move your new rips to the correct folder like you normally do and then navigate to this folder within "Music Folders" and play. -- Uluen SYSTEM: MUSIC -> EARS http://www.last.fm/user/Uluen Uluen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12166 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64148 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linksys WRT610N Woes
Just to chime in: I'm running a 610N with my Boom and, once the G side of the network was set to a manual channel based on the channels of the networks around me, the connection has been rock solid. -- jeremygray jeremygray's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63920 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] How to un-link alarms
I originally had a Squeezebox Duet paired with SqueezeCenter running on Windows Home Server. I recently added a SqueezeBox Boom to replace my old clock radio. It's wonderful! My problem: When the Boom's alarm times out, it also turns off my Duet. If I set a different alarm to turn the Duet back on, it also turns on my Boom. How do I un-link the alarms? I have to synchronize the two with audio delay or I get a nasty echo. I do have the "Synchronize Power" set to "Power On/Off Separately" (see attached Pic), but apparently alarms don't count. Is there another setting I haven't found to un-link the alarm on/off? +---+ |Filename: Settings.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7546| +---+ -- WayneGS WayneGS's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30821 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64186 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Making SqueezePlay more "portable"?
Hi.
I have just begun using SqueezePlay for both Linux and Windows, and I
fint it very useful and handy compared to xmms and winamp.
I'm requesting the possibility to copy both the linux and the windows
version of SqueezePlay on to a memory stick, and run it from there.
Making it 100% portable.
Problem is, the SP configuration files are stored in the users
"settings directory": %APPDATA%\SqueezePlay - typically
C:\Users\{username}\AppData\Roaming\SqueezePlay and for linux: /.squeezeplay
I would very much like to store these files in the SqueezePlayer's own
software directory. On the memory stick.
Do any of you know if this is even possible?
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Re: [slim] I am leaving Logitech!
My turn ... I bought my first SB2 in April 2005, followed almost immediately by a second one. I now have numerous assorted Slim Devices around the house, and a comprehensive media server sitting behind them. I've bought a lot of gadgets over the years: most of them have worked, and some have made a significant impact on how I do something. But I think I can honestly say that the Squeezeboxen - and the community that has emerged around them - have made a far bigger impact than anything else. Music is now everywhere in the house, all sorts of music available anytime we want it. Right now I'm listening to some great music I would probably never have heard if I hadn't ripped my son's CD for him. That kind of impact comes from a radical vision, excellently executed. That combination doesn't happen very often. Thanks! -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63759 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I am leaving Logitech!
funkstar;428845 Wrote: > The SliMP3 didn't have wifi :P > > See, that was because of the beverage. :) -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63759 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
arztde;429694 Wrote: > Keys are near the same i think than in the versions before. On the HTC > big enough for my fingers that i do not need the stick. > I do not know it is the material of the big playlist i am testing. But > it seems by network it is less stable than before. Squeezeplay hangs > more often. Maybe i will try it. With Softsqueeze. Today i did bought by > German Amazon > ( http://www.amazon.de )my first Squeeze Hardware. They have a spechial > offer for the Classic. 164,97 Euro this is 230,37 $ and include free > transport. Amazon.com offersthe same for $265.15 as special offer. > > Ok anyways tomorrow i will test stability with Squeeze hardware too. > Maybee its realy only my network or Squeezeplay. Can you tell me in what situations SC hangs ? Because it never does on my PDA (Softsqueeze & Duet). -- Locuth Use your PDA as SqueezeBox remote -- http://www.sciatec.de/SlimControl Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
