Re: [slim] Logitech MM, what is it??
Hello John, It does not explain what the Logitech MM Transporter is? Ronald. -- tingtong5 tingtong5's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9671 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67368 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best of Luck - moving on...
the bad thing here is, that most people only complain about the product. for a new squeezebox user this might be frightening. so btw. I am a happy customer... ;-) (even with the controller and I prefer it over the iphone with ipeng). christian -- Schindler Schindler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67040 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can you set up bridging on an SB3 without doing a factory reset?
radish;454271 Wrote: > Connecting the cable and going back through network setup should do it > (the menu option will only appear if it has a valid link). No need to > factory reset in my experience. > > No, you need either a crossover or Auto MDIX at the other end. Thanks. I found a crossover cable and it works. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67360 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Where's Dean?
Dean, Sorry to see you go. I had figured that the senior Slim team would be departing when the earn-out came to an end. Congratulations to both you and Sean for the product line you created and your success in building the company up and selling it on - no small achievement. Just one question, with you and Sean gone - who is going to fix the Duet? -- Andy8421 Andy8421's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67325 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best of Luck - moving on...
OK - wanted to give you some updates on my experience. The Sonos hardware is really pretty solid - well made, and works well. However - NOT bulletproof. I have had some issues occasionally with dropouts and wireless signal strength. While the call in Support has been pretty good, I'm sorely disappointed with their forums - there is NOTHING like the level of interaction present here, either in terms of user input or vendor involvement and feedback. These forums are really amazing compared to what I'm experiencing over there. I'll continue to check in from time to time to share my experience. -- damager damager's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15940 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67040 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help/Sad - SB3 just "bricked"
Ikabob;454248 Wrote: > I am having a difficult time believing that a company with the > reputation as LOGITECH offers a product that it will not repair if > necessary. LOGITECH is renowned throughout the world. I just purchased > some Logitech products and was under the impression that LOGITECH stands > behind these products. I have always recommended their products to my > collegues. I am sorry but I just am having trouble believing that they > do not stand behind these products. Are you absolutely sure that they > will not repair your products? That locks you into buying a new product > and they do have integrity and would not let that be their business > practice. Thanks. Things break, nothing lasts forever. These products are electronic, not stone. The two year period is generous and unusually long for products like this. Most electronic products have a much shorter manufacturers warranty than is provided for the Squeeze line. Electronics manufacturers are in the business of making and selling products, not selling insurance policies. Assuming that a warranty period will never be "forever", what do you think would be reasonable? If you want a longer warranty period, most retailers are more than happy to sell supplementary coverage. At least that is true in the US, I don't know where you are. But conventional wisdom is that purchasing such supplemental coverage is, on average, not worth it. (Except when it is, of course) -- Goodsounds Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help/Sad - SB3 just "bricked"
dwc, If your wireless card is bad read the thread in the DIY forum concerning converting a wired version to wireless; since this is my first post I am not allowed that privilege by forum rules. I will try another post with the link. I found that the card can be found on eBay under Dell Inspiron 300M, 510M, 4000 or 5100. They go for about $15. Watch out for newer "N" cards, Broadcom chipsets and the card must be mini pci and not pci-e. Good luck, Eeyore -- Eeyore69 Eeyore69's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can you set up bridging on an SB3 without doing a factory reset?
JJZolx;454149 Wrote: > I really don't want to enter my wifi password again unless I absolutely > have to. But I've poked around pretty much every on-device menu, and > have gone back through network setup again, but I haven't found a way to > enable bridging. > Connecting the cable and going back through network setup should do it (the menu option will only appear if it has a valid link). No need to factory reset in my experience. > > Does the SB3 have Auto MDIX? No, you need either a crossover or Auto MDIX at the other end. -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTTP://WWW.ADAMREEVE.COM/24IN24/) http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67360 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help/Sad - SB3 just "bricked"
Ikabob;454248 Wrote: > I am having a difficult time believing that a company with the > reputation as LOGITECH offers a product that it will not repair if > necessary. LOGITECH is renowned throughout the world. I just purchased > some Logitech products and was under the impression that LOGITECH stands > behind these products. I have always recommended their products to my > collegues. I am sorry but I just am having trouble believing that they > do not stand behind these products. Are you absolutely sure that they > will not repair your products? That locks you into buying a new product > and they do have integrity and would not let that be their business > practice. Thanks. Logitech/Slim Devices most certainly stand behind Squeezebox Products! The current warranty coverage is Two Years Parts and Labor Warranty on the SB3. And I believe a flat rate charge of $90 to fix a broken unit out of warranty. Now I think that is more then fair and in no way "locks you into buying a new product" if there is a failure. Most companies give you 90 days on electronics if you're lucky. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: SB3, GFR-700HD, Thiel 2.3, Second Boom Home Office: SB3, NAD C370, two VSM-1 Home Gym: SB3, Parasound Vamp v.3, Thiel PowerPoint 1.2 House Portable: SB3, Audioengine A5 Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB3, ToughBook iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Free Download Youtube Video without Any Youtube Downloader
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Re: [slim] New "Logitech MM STREAM Squeezebox Touch" spotted !!
Justme;454218 Wrote: > > I personally am tired that I have to keep switching on my PC every time > I listen to music. This was fine when I bought the device, but that is > so retro these days. IMHO, not having a "home media/file/web/whatever server" is retro... Then I can get to my files from any machine on the network without copying stuff everywhere. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64706 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Online radio stations strike big deal on royalties
http://government.zdnet.com/?p=5290 > Follow the money: If LAUNCH is interactive, then Yahoo (and thus, > Pandora, and any damn webradio service in the world that lets you create > stations or channels) would have to pay individual performance > royalties for every song played. Big bucks for the RIAA! If not, they > get only the statutory royalties set by the Copyright Royalty Board. > > They lost at trial but Sony appealed. And lost -- MrSinatra www.lion-radio.org using: sb2 & sbc (my home) / sbr (parent's home) - w/sc 7.3.4b - win xp pro sp3 ie8 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 - d-link dir-655 MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65373 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help/Sad - SB3 just "bricked"
I am having a difficult time believing that a company with the reputation as LOGITECH offers a product that it will not repair if necessary. LOGITECH is renowned throughout the world. I just purchased some Logitech products and was under the impression that LOGITECH stands behind these products. I am sorry but I just am having trouble believing that they do not stand behind these products. Are you absolutely sure that they will not repair your products? That locks you into buying a new product and they do have integrity and would not let that be their business practice. Thanks. -- Ikabob Ikabob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32088 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help/Sad - SB3 just "bricked"
You could also (if you haven't already) try just reseating the wireless card. It may have had a dodgy connection. -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTTP://WWW.ADAMREEVE.COM/24IN24/) http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Where's Dean?
Matt Wise;453955 Wrote: > We're even lying to Marketing/Sales... its all a ploy to keep our jobs, > but not actually do anything productive! :) Ha! :) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67325 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA-controller SlimControl 0.95
Sebastian, Ok loaded v.99 and here are some screen shots. I'm still having the same problems with viewing in 320x320. I also can't get back to the now playing screen from the playlists. +---+ |Filename: 320x320 #4.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8039| +---+ -- DeWayne DeWayne's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4345 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64537 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Where's Dean?
ftlight;454217 Wrote: > On 9/2/2009 3:38 PM, autopilot wrote: > > > > Maybe Seans in Deans basement? > > Searching for apostrophes? > > -- > Bill Burns > Long Island NY USA > http://ftldesign.com Hey, you have to take some short cuts when you are using opera mini on a nokia 6220. -- autopilot Cheers, auto. *lounge:* squeezebox 3, squeezebox controller, cambridge audio 640a, mission 701's *kitchen:* squeezebox, trends ta-10.1, kef cresta 1's. *bedroom:* squeezebox boom *bathroom/garden:* squeezebox boom *car:* ipod classic 80gb autopilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67325 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New "Logitech MM STREAM Squeezebox Touch" spotted !!
funkstar;454042 Wrote: > A specialist product like any of the Squeeze players are always going to > be more expensive than generic mass produced (and I mean in the hundreds > of thousands of units) hardware like netbooks. Logitech offer far better > support and longer warranties than netbooks as well. Also don't forget > how much all the software development that goes into these products > actually costs. On the other hand this is a specialized product, unlike a notebook which must be able to work with every bit of windows software the world can throw at it. The screen is much larger as well which is where a chunk of the cost comes from, and internally, it would probably would use much of the stock componets that a laptop uses. Of course, the audio circuitry is more extensive than a laptop, but they have this developed anyway. As for product runs, how much difference are they to the average laptop anyway. There are so many laptops and netbooks out there now and many from much smaller companies than Logitech. A classic example is the new internet tablet from always innovating. Now this is "design" and could probably run slimserver at least harware wise, and is going for about the same price. People can run slimserver on some pretty low powered PC's, notebooks, nettops and even NAS units, so I really don't think it would be too hard to include this in a slim device I think the only reason they don't is because it would defeat their name ;O) It won't be a slim device anymore would it ;O) I personally am tired that I have to keep switching on my PC every time I listen to music. This was fine when I bought the device, but that is so retro these days. -- Justme Justme's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64706 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Where's Dean?
On 9/2/2009 3:38 PM, autopilot wrote: > > Maybe Seans in Deans basement? Searching for apostrophes? -- Bill Burns Long Island NY USA http://ftldesign.com ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help/Sad - SB3 just "bricked"
Thanks P, Found this in one of Sean's old posts: Atheros AR2413 -- dwc dwc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] streaming Myspace Music?
Yes please! MySpace streaming - would be excellent for listening to pre-release stuff and upcoming new bands which wouldn't be on Napster yet. Is there an API for MySpace? -- jwedwards jwedwards's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22801 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53810 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help/Sad - SB3 just "bricked"
dwc wrote: > HAHAHA W00h000!!1101 > It works with the wireless card removed! That is great. > (should I replace the wireless card with something, or just live the > wired-only lifestyle?) I'd drag the wire. Or try homeplug or something. I believe that inside, it was just a commodity PCMCIA 11g card. If you have one laying around, try it, but its not clear that its worth $25 to try a new card -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech MM, what is it??
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64706 -- Squeezed_Rotel John M Squeezebox Duet & Squeezebox Boom connected through Linksys WRT54gs router. SqueezeCenter 7.3.3 running on HP MediaSmart LX195 WHS SBR digital out => Cambridge Audio DacMagic => Rotel preamp. ROTEL: RB1080 2 channel amp, RC1070 Preamp, RCD1072 CD, RT1080 Tuner, RLC-1040 Power conditioner. Bowers & Wilkins 805 Speakers. Squeezed_Rotel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30002 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67368 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Logitech MM, what is it??
Hi all, I recently noticed that some shops are talking about the "Logitech MM Transporter" or the "Logitech MM Squeezebox". What is the MM standing for? Is it a logitech division? Or are these new hardware revisions of these products? Please enlighten me ;-) Regards, Ronald -- tingtong5 tingtong5's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9671 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67368 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help/Sad - SB3 just "bricked"
HAHAHA W00h000!!1101 It works with the wireless card removed! (should I replace the wireless card with something, or just live the wired-only lifestyle?) Thanks, Dan -- dwc dwc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA-controller SlimControl 0.95
Hey there They are not going into oblivion, really. The playlist in 0.95 displays some 25 tracks, starting at the current track -5 'move to top' means to the top of the playlist, i.e. position 1. (which might actually be a stupid feature ;-) So the track is merely out of view. Go ahead and prove me wrong by checking the web-interface of SCenter. Cheers, Sebastian -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64537 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA-controller SlimControl 0.95
Just started using your proggy and working very well. Some glitches - played songs disappear from the top of the playlist also selecting a song on the playlist and "move to top" which I would assume is Play Next sends the track into oblivion! or the top of the already disappearing list of tracks. Moving the track one place up at a time works fine as does adding tracks as next play when creating an on the fly playlist. Touchflow works well. Suggestion use the rotating wheel on the HTC device to scroll? Is there a shuffle rest of playlist option? Great effort. -- rjsmyth rjsmyth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32572 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64537 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Where's Dean?
Maybe Seans in Deans basement? -- autopilot Cheers, auto. *lounge:* squeezebox 3, squeezebox controller, cambridge audio 640a, mission 701's *kitchen:* squeezebox, trends ta-10.1, kef cresta 1's. *bedroom:* squeezebox boom *bathroom/garden:* squeezebox boom *car:* ipod classic 80gb autopilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67325 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help/Sad - SB3 just "bricked"
Thanks for the suggestions. Not sure if wireless card removal is going to be a reversible operation, but I can go in and take a look if I can find my torx bits. I'd hate to nuke my chance at repair. On my RMA printout I have asked the folks to repair if possible... I did check the power supply, and it's OK. (My other SB3 runs fine on it) -Dan -- dwc dwc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Player stops after a few songs are played...
What are you playing (music from own library, internet radio, Rhapsody, Slacker, etc.) when the music stops? Are the stops always between tracks, ie, not stopping in the middle of a track? What type of SB? If it's one of the players that can be controlled by infrared remote (pretty much anything except the SB Duet Receiver) is there any chance that it's picking up stray IR signals from another device, such as a tv or amp remote? -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67356 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] DSBridge - A simpler way to stream Spotify
that's the problem... when i use spotify with nothing in the directory, everything is good...i simply listen to the music from the computer but if i put in the folder dsound.dll and dsbridge.ini (version dsbridge-20090727-bin) and start spotify, as soon as i start play something, it crashes without any message... any idea? any help, please? thanks! i really appreciate all your efforts! -- mikk64 mikk64's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32571 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64590 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help/Sad - SB3 just "bricked"
One weird disconnect between what the support rep said about not being able to repair my SB3 because there are not parts left is that Logitech is still selling (and thus still supporting) the last of the SlimDevice-logo'ed SB3's: https://secure.slimdevices.com/products.php?product=Slim-Devices-Signature-Series-Squeezebox-Classic -- dwc dwc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help/Sad - SB3 just "bricked"
Yeah, other threads have gone through this before. Many seem to have had their power brick pack up. Try testing the output from the power brick. You could search for the specs in the forum they're there several times and I don't recall them. HTH, SS -- Secret Squirrel Secret Squirrel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4984 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help/Sad - SB3 just "bricked"
You might try opening up and removing the wireless card. I recall seeing other threads where that allowed the SB3 to work (although if you need to run wireless, that's not much good!) -- tcutting tcutting's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17402 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help/Sad - SB3 just "bricked"
In the good ole days there would be a post from Sean telling you how to fix it yourself. After you fixed it we'd all chime in and say how awesome it is that the founder will post repair instructions on the forum. Aaah, the good ole days... This also causes me some concern as I have 2 SD SB3s and my parents have another one. -- 4mula1 SqueezeCenter 7.3.3 + Solaris 10 x86: Because everything else would've been easy! '4mula1 on Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/4mula1) 4mula1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help/Sad - SB3 just "bricked"
Mnyb;454161 Wrote: > How bricked ? xilink reset or factory reset did not help ? > Mine been completely knackered after an upgrade no working display etc > one of these resets fixed it Bricked in the sense that I get no display and Slimserver doesn't see the SB3 on power up. Reset (holding + button) has no effect. I cross checked power supplies with my other SB# and the power supply is OK. I wasn't familiar with Xilink reset (holding 1 button) until now, but I tried that too. Thanks for the suggestion. FYI for others: here's the doc on resets: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Hardware_Reset_commands In the past I had a "display only" issue where the display died but the SB3 still showed up on the network. SD fixed that for me. In this case the SB3 seems completely non-functional, the only sign of life being the red light peeking out the back of the optical socket. -- dwc dwc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help/Sad - SB3 just "bricked"
Thanks Siduhe, Got escalated and spoke to second rep. Unfortunately the SB3's with the "Slimdevices" Logo (as opposed to the Logitech Logo) are not eligible for repair - even paid repair - at this point. The rep said the parts are not in inventory. [This is curious to me as the Classic sure looks like an SB3, but I guess they have changed internal parts...(?)] So I cannot pay the $90 for a fix. I was offered a discount on a new purchase, pending my sending the dead unit back in. So the idea is that I send this SB3 back in with the RMA they emailed me, and then a sales rep will call me up and give me some kind of discount towards my next purchase. The support rep didn't have all the details on the discount offer, so I will update this thread after I have sent the unit in and spoken to the rep who should call me shortly thereafter. -Dan -- dwc dwc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help/Sad - SB3 just "bricked"
dwc;454140 Wrote: > Hi All, > > Sad day for me last week. One of my beloved SB3's just died. Last > week I held on support phone line for an hour before a guy came on the > line and told me it was a very busy support day and he'd take my number > for a call back. No one ever called back. I am on the line again now > listening to the techno/ambient hold music. I fear my player is out of > the support period anyway. (The support period is one year?) > > If the player is out of warranty, is there a way I can send this back > for a paid repair? (can I beg for a sympathy credit? :) > > (talking to a support rep now) > > -Dan "Long Time SlimDevices Supporter/Evangelist" Carwin How bricked ? xilink reset or factory reset did not help ? Mine been completely knackered after an upgrade no working display etc one of these resets fixed it -- Mnyb No it can NOT be controlled with iTunes Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help/Sad - SB3 just "bricked"
The Logitech warranty is "your Logitech hardware product shall be free from defects in material and workmanship for two (2) years, beginning from the date of purchase." I believe this is worldwide, but it may depend where you purchased it (as local law requirements are different the world over) It gets more complicated when you've purchased it from from a third party vendor, who normally only refund or exchange for one year, but the manufacturer warranty should still be valid for an additional 12 months. Slim Devices (i.e. the division of Logitech based in the US) used to do out of warranty repairs for a $90 fee or similar, but not clear if this is still offered - others outside the US have reportedly been told by Logitech that repairs are not available. Let us know how you get on with support and others may be able to advise you. -- Siduhe Who am I on 'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/siduhe)? "-Siduhe Loved Tracks radio got the thumbs up. Feedback included: yeah, it's good... got the odd dodgy track tho...-" (c) 'ModelCitizen' (http://www.last.fm/user/Modelcitizen) Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Where's Dean?
Dean thanks for all your hard work, and grats to SlimDevices. Best of luck in your next gig. [Is Sean still there or not?] -Dan -- dwc dwc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67325 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Can you set up bridging on an SB3 without doing a factory reset?
I really don't want to enter my wifi password again unless I absolutely have to. But I've poked around pretty much every on-device menu, and have gone back through network setup again, but I haven't found a way to enable bridging. Does the SB3 have Auto MDIX? -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67360 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Love My Squeezebox! What's The Equivalent For Video?
micah;453992 Wrote: > ... blu-ray movies ... Would an atom processor (e.g. msi wind=$300) cut > it? No way. Normally you'd look at the GPU power instead of the CPU. Since hardware acceleration is not always available under linux, you'll have to check carefully for the brand/type of graphics card to buy for a linux based mythtv box. Then again hardware acceleration will work with some limitations in terms of formats (mpeg2, mpeg4) and bandwidth. In case you want to decode about any format in high-def, you'll need to use software decoders in the CPU. I think a Core 2 is ok for anything 720p and a big quad is necessary for 1080p @ very high bitrates as found on a blu ray movie. (A big quad won't do for a nice htpc, imho: power = heat = noise.) -- epoch1970 epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40689 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
mprocte1;454061 Wrote: > As requested ... what logs do you need ... I've only had SC/SB for a > couple of weeks so it's all new to me. > The required logs are well documented in the bug report: https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13092 Basically, a copy of your SqueezeCenter log and a Performance Log are required. -- Pascal Hibon Pascal Hibon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7969 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How many of you still slide your Boom back into it's bagwhen you're done using it?
I have one mounted and one as a bedside audio source/alarm clock being used daily. Bagging would be a waste of time. I do use the bag to transport the bedroom Boom when we go on vacation. Into the bag it goes then into my large carry-on bag for use at the Beach House or Cabin. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: SB3, GFR-700HD, Thiel 2.3, Second Boom Home Office: SB3, NAD C370, two VSM-1 Home Gym: SB3, Parasound Vamp v.3, Thiel PowerPoint 1.2 House Portable: SB3, Audioengine A5 Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB3, ToughBook iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66951 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA-controller SlimControl 0.95
Hey Steven, The problem can be either one of the following: SlimControl shows you an empty list, because it has scrolled past the end. move you finger up/down across the empty list. If things appear, you're all set. (that's a bug in version 0.95) Or, SlimControl shows you an empty list because it had a timeout while downloading. Slimcontrol 0.95 is not too smart about handling transmission breaks. Go to the settings (cogwheel in the popup menu) Change your network timeout to 8000 or 9000 (ms). Restart SlimControl. Next time you open the browser, closely watch the status bar (top) If things fail again, you can tell what's happend. Get back to me. Sebastian -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64537 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Help/Sad - SB3 just "bricked"
Hi All, Sad day for me last week. One of my beloved SB3's just died. Last week I held on support phone line for an hour before a guy came on the line and told me it was a very busy support day and he'd take my number for a call back. No one ever called back. I am on the line again now listening to the techno/ambient hold music. I fear my player is out of the support period anyway. (The support period is one year?) If the player is out of warranty, is there a way I can send this back for a paid repair? (can I beg for a sympathy credit? :) (talking to a support rep now) -Dan "Long Time SlimDevices Supporter/Evangelist" Carwin -- dwc dwc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Player stops after a few songs are played...
I am running 7.3.3 of slimserver on a win2k3 server box. I have been successfully running slimserver for over three years on this box. I have upgraded over the years, as new versions have become available. Everything has worked well. With version 7.3.3 and a version or two before it, I have noticed that I can no longer get an album to play all the way through, without the player stopping. Typically, it will play two or three songs and then the device will display the next song to be played but will say "Stopped...". I have tried a fresh install of the software, and I have also tried hardwiring the device directly into my network. So I know this is not some issue with wireless connectivity. Anyway, this is really annoying problem and I see no way around it. It has made the device pretty useless. What's up? What changed? Is there some magic config setting I am missing? -- kbindera kbindera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11654 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67356 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New "Logitech MM STREAM Squeezebox Touch" spotted !!
Yes :( -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64706 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New "Logitech MM STREAM Squeezebox Touch" spotted !!
Have these links been seen? http://dabdig.blogspot.com/2009/06/logitech-squeezebox-touch-on-way.html http://picasaweb.google.com/nilskp/SqueezeboxTouch?authkey=Gv1sRgCMq1rMLW7bfH7QE# -- Labarum Brian Squeezebox 3 Classic and Virgin Cable Box Beresford DAC TC-7520SE (Caiman) - Quad 405-2 refurbished by 405man Quart 980s Speakers Boom in kitchen. Labarum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19963 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64706 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA-controller SlimControl 0.95
Hi Please excuse my ignorance as a novice not only to SlimControl but also to internet forums. I downloaded and installed v 0.95 onto my WM 6.1 device. I connected to my device, and saw what was playing already :-) When I went to browse collection and artists, or genres I don't get anything back. Albums works just fine - it loaded 1552 OK :-) Any ideas? -- StevenF StevenF's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64537 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I will pay you to fix this
Has your problem been resolved? Did you email or call Tech Support yet? If not fixed, take a couple of minutes to answer the questions that where asked in as much detail as you can. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: SB3, GFR-700HD, Thiel 2.3, Second Boom Home Office: SB3, NAD C370, two VSM-1 Home Gym: SB3, Parasound Vamp v.3, Thiel PowerPoint 1.2 House Portable: SB3, Audioengine A5 Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB3, ToughBook iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67185 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Vortexbox Appliance help?
Just typing 'vortexbox' or in the address bar will bring you where you want. Teus -- Teus de Jong Teus de Jong's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15415 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67351 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Vortexbox Appliance help?
Got a VBA for my b'day and it's up and running, feeding a SB3 and a Duet. There are a couple things, though, that have me flummoxed and I'd really appreciate any help. First thing, I'm having trouble getting to the VBA GUI. When I go to :9000, I go straight into the VBA's SqueezeCenter. How do I get to the VBA's GUI? Second (and sussing out the questions above probably fixes this), how do I adjust the VBA's time shown on the SB3? I'm CST, but the player shows EST when using the VBA as the music source. Sounds like I can adjust it via the GUI, once I can get to the GUI. Any help much appreciated ... thanks very much! -- bjones10 bjones10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67351 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New computer/router; connection problems!
postage22;454073 Wrote: > I recently purchased a mac mini running Mac OS X 10.5, and a time > capsule router (the same router hardware as an airport extreme). When i > try to connect my SB3, it finds an IP address something like > 172.16.43.1. My computers IP address is 10.0.2.1, so the SB3 never > finds the music source. When I connect via ethernet, it finds the > proper 10.0.2.1 address, and works fine. The router allows for 2 > networks, a normal secured network (mine is configured with WPA/WPA2 > security), and a "guest network", which is unsecured. The SB3 sees both > networks, but when I connect through either, my music source doesn't > appear. > > I called logitech support, and they seemed confused that the router was > "passing" this unusual IP address to the SB3. I am running > squeezecenter 7.3.3, I have 2 SB3s and one of the original squeezeboxes. > > > Any ideas? Thanks in advance. Sounds like the time-capsule does not have DHCP enabled for wireless. An "active" ethernet adapter has to have an address and they will make one up if necessary.. P -- pski pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67348 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Love My Squeezebox! What's The Equivalent For Video?
Pale Blue Ego;453756 Wrote: > Yeah, because a 320 x 240 pixel web video looks so great on my HDTV. My My! You've missed a lot. The internet's changed a bit since 1999. -- FredFredrickson FredFredrickson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16584 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40689 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
Thanks, I hadn't run the test, but it looks helpful. Now I get 100% on all rates except 5000, which jumps between 80% and 100%. This morning I am streaming a European radio station from here in the US with no problem, with wireless strength in the SB3 fluctuating between 38% and 46%. I haven't tried optimizing the position of the new router so maybe that can improve. My point is simply that even at these low strengths, the streaming can work perfectly well. The problem seems to have been in the hand-shaking somewhere, either the old router or the SB3 or both. My laptop could pick up and hold a signal when the SB3 was not able to connect at all. So it wasn't just a faulty router. And the SB3 would either freeze or have delayed responses to the remote of 15 seconds or more. That's not just bad connectivity, it seems to me to reflect bad error processing of some kind in the SB3. I don't know enough about the particulars of network interface programming to go any further than that though. Swimmer -- Swimmerbird123 Swimmerbird123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17285 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What's next for VortexBox???
autopilot;454046 Wrote: > +1 for musicip. > > Personally i wish logitech would buy out musicip and make it official - > development has pretty much stalled now, has it not? > I thinks it's halted. The guy that was doing the development (or at least leading it up) doesn't work there any more. It would be a great 'app' and give them a serious advantage over competitors (excluding apple who already have genius). autopilot;454046 Wrote: > > As for album art, and very good source is www.discogs.com, especially > for harder to find and sometimes better quality, which MP3tag integrates > with. Could this be added, plus others? The main issue i have with > Amazon is the large white border the images often have. Those borders annoy the crap out of me too! Though they don't put it on all of their artwork. Regarding the fingerprint generation - I think that it should be integrated in such a say that you can choose to do the fully analysis or not. I have a large collection and have no interest in running a full analysis on my library. MusicIP works just fine for me with the information it gathers just on the scan to identify if something is mixable or not. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 3 Booms, 1 duet, 1 receiver. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeCenter 7.3.3, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 27,698 songs, 2,304 albums, 439 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior Looking forward to new Porcupine Tree, Megadeth, Alice in Chains, and The Beatles Box set. September will be an expensive month :-) maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67336 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] New computer/router; connection problems!
I recently purchased a mac mini running Mac OS X 10.5, and a time capsule router (the same router hardware as an airport extreme). When i try to connect my SB3, it finds an IP address something like 172.16.43.1. My computers IP address is 10.0.2.1, so the SB3 never finds the music source. When I connect via ethernet, it finds the proper 10.0.2.1 address, and works fine. The router allows for 2 networks, a normal secured network (mine is configured with WPA/WPA2 security), and a "guest network", which is unsecured. The SB3 sees both networks, but when I connect through either, my music source doesn't appear. I called logitech support, and they seemed confused that the router was "passing" this unusual IP address to the SB3. I am running squeezecenter 7.3.3, I have 2 SB3s and one of the original squeezeboxes. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. -- postage22 postage22's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14332 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67348 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
Swimmerbird123;454065 Wrote: > My experience, in case it is useful: > > Running 7.3.2 on Linux server, wired to Zoom X6 gateway router > (firmware 2.1.5 from 2007), wireless G to SB3, streaming flac and > internet radio. After installing 7.3.2 back in March, things worked > pretty well for a couple of months and then gradually degraded to the > point of near unusability, with frequent 'rebufferings' and 'cannot > connect'. I wondered whether new software had been pushed to player > without notification. A wireless laptop running Vista sitting close to > the SB3 kept working fine with long downloads from internet or > hours-long back ups and maintenance of music library on the remote > server. > > Most frustrating was internet radio - player would connect for maybe a > minute or two and then stop, sometimes reconnecting after another minute > or two, but more often just 'cannot connect' - player would freeze and > be unable to change to music library or scroll through radio stations. > Direct radio streaming from internet to a computer worked OK, so it > wasn't just that the radio station was kicking out the connection. When > the SB3 wouldn't connect and offered the option to try again or go left, > re-attempting the connection still would not connect at all for long > enough to get sound out of the player, even after multiple tries, yet > the nearby laptop kept connecting without problem. > > Just the other day I purchased a new router, Linksys WRT160N, and am > running it in wireless-G mode. All my 'cannot connect' and > 'rebufferings' seem to have vanished, the Squeezebox is working great > again. So I evidently had network problems that were causing my > difficulty. > > I don't think the problem was wireless signal strength, since the > laptop near the SB3 connected fine, and with the new router, the > strength in the SB3 player is still only 45% or so. So I wonder whether > perhaps older routers don't handle the streaming or hand-shaking as well > for some reason. Or that the error-handling in the SB3 was not very > robust and when radio station got lost or the connection broke for > whatever reason, the player couldn't recover properly. > > Anyway, I wonder whether Logitech couldn't do something to improve the > robustness of the SB3 performance, even on suboptimal networks. I > remember back in the 90's when the Sun computer company (big unix > installations) suddenly realized it was not enough just to list the > requirements of a proper operating environment, but that their customers > simply weren't able to establish or maintain those by themselves. The > company CEO wrote that it was like a revelation, and that it became part > of the company's job to help them maintain those. Logitech obviously > can't maintain home networks for people, but perhaps they could provide > a suite of tools or other robust evaluation procedures to pinpoint where > the network problems are. > > Anyway, I am glad my Squeezebox is working reliably again, and I > apologize to it for all those bad thoughts I had about it being a piece > of crap. > > Swimmer They have some rudimentary tools, the wireless strength number (btw 45% is low ? ) alas logitech should come forward with some numbers that y% is enough for mp3 streams and x% is enough for flac or similar. And have you seen the network test in squeezecenter or the controller ? You can test different streamingrates from very low rates and up to 5000kbps knowing that a flac stream is roughly 800kpbs you know what to expect. The controller has a diagnostic setting that can tell the IP settings in your players and see if you can connect your server or squeezenetwork ( I think this is in beta ? ) it even pings squeezenetwork. -- Mnyb No it can NOT be controlled with iTunes Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
My experience, in case it is useful: Running 7.3.2 on Linux server, wired to Zoom X6 gateway router (firmware 2.1.5 from 2007), wireless G to SB3, streaming flac and internet radio. After installing 7.3.2 back in March, things worked pretty well for a couple of months and then gradually degraded to the point of near unusability, with frequent 'rebufferings' and 'cannot connect'. I wondered whether new software had been pushed to player without notification. A wireless laptop running Vista sitting close to the SB3 kept working fine with long downloads from internet or hours-long back ups and maintenance of music library on the remote server. Most frustrating was internet radio - player would connect for maybe a minute or two and then stop, sometimes reconnecting after another minute or two, but more often just 'cannot connect' - player would freeze and be unable to change to music library or scroll through radio stations. Direct radio streaming from internet to a computer worked OK, so it wasn't just that the radio station was kicking out the connection. When the SB3 wouldn't connect and offered the option to try again or go left, re-attempting the connection still would not connect at all for long enough to get sound out of the player, even after multiple tries, yet the nearby laptop kept connecting without problem. Just the other day I purchased a new router, Linksys WRT160N, and am running it in wireless-G mode. All my 'cannot connect' and 'rebufferings' seem to have vanished, the Squeezebox is working great again. So I evidently had network problems that were causing my difficulty. I don't think the problem was wireless signal strength, since the laptop near the SB3 connected fine, and with the new router, the strength in the SB3 player is still only 45% or so. So I wonder whether perhaps older routers don't handle the streaming or hand-shaking as well for some reason. Or that the error-handling in the SB3 was not very robust and when radio station got lost or the connection broke for whatever reason, the player couldn't recover properly. Anyway, I wonder whether Logitech couldn't do something to improve the robustness of the SB3 performance, even on suboptimal networks. I remember back in the 90's when the Sun computer company (big unix installations) suddenly realized it was not enough just to list the requirements of a proper operating environment, but that their customers simply weren't able to establish or maintain those by themselves. The company CEO wrote that it was like a revelation, and that it became part of the company's job to help them maintain those. Logitech obviously can't maintain home networks for people, but perhaps they could provide a suite of tools or other robust evaluation procedures to pinpoint where the network problems are. Anyway, I am glad my Squeezebox is working reliably again, and I apologize to it for all those bad thoughts I had about it being a piece of crap. Swimmer -- Swimmerbird123 Swimmerbird123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17285 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
Mnyb;454060 Wrote: > As soon as *other* equipment enter the wifi mix all bets are off. > There is a finite bandwidth available if an wireless PC visit an > website with lots of adds or is doing an upgrade, or running a torrent > client ;) what do you expect ? How is music streaming going to react > while other stuff is running on the network. > One can have more than one network/different AP for the computers than > the squeezeboxes or use N router and let the PC's wotk on the N > channel. > > If you are listening to internet radio you have a router with Qos > functions, this works quite ok I tried that and managed to tune those > fillters so I could use a torrentclient while listening to radio Good point. I might use my old router then just to service my SB3's, and the new one for general PC use. Assuming you can make a DG834G act as just an AP. -- mprocte1 mprocte1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32280 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
Pascal Hibon;454053 Wrote: > It would be very useful to provide some logs (as requested in the bug > report) when running this test. > Can you do that? As requested ... what logs do you need ... I've only had SC/SB for a couple of weeks so it's all new to me. awy;454055 Wrote: > Have you tried using different wireless channels? You could also use a > tool like netstumbler to see what other networks you have in your area > and what channels they are using. I've changed channels, with little difference. I've tried those which no-one in my neighbourhood appear to use (or show up in my WiFi site monitor). It's not clear if general interference on those channels is the problem. Does Netstumbler show any info on this? RxQual or something? I'll install it tonight and see if it shows anything. -- mprocte1 mprocte1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32280 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
mprocte1;454024 Wrote: > Just an update on my testing last night ... > > Streaming FLAC to laptop over wireless playing with VLC did have a > couple of buffering issues, but they were recovered quickly and with far > fewer occurrences. > > With just the SB3 on the wireless network, playback was okay, but still > with a few rebufferring events. As soon as the misses switched on her > laptop (wireless), the SB3 was unusable with rebufferring events. > > Seems that I have a wireless bandwidth issue for sure, which I'm hoping > the new router will resolve ... hopefully arriving today/tomorrow. > > However, the SB3's inability to recover within a short period of time > and then just dropping out and freezing up is a real pain. What logs > are needed to investigate this issue, and I'll post them where needed? As soon as *other* equipment enter the wifi mix all bets are off. There is a finite bandwidth available if an wireless PC visit an website with lots of adds or is doing an upgrade, or running a torrent client ;) what do you expect ? How is music streaming going to react while other stuff is running on the network. One can have more than one network/different AP for the computers than the squeezeboxes or use N router and let the PC's wotk on the N channel. If you are listening to internet radio you have a router with Qos functions, this works quite ok I tried that and managed to tune those fillters so I could use a torrentclient while listening to radio -- Mnyb No it can NOT be controlled with iTunes Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New "Logitech MM STREAM Squeezebox Touch" spotted !!
funkstar;454042 Wrote: > A specialist product like any of the Squeeze players are always going to > be more expensive than generic mass produced (and I mean in the hundreds > of thousands of units) hardware like netbooks. Logitech offer far better > support and longer warranties than netbooks as well. Also don't forget > how much all the software development that goes into these products > actually costs. True and also more useful than a netbook :) I was just stating that $300 will buy you alot of processing nowerdays. I think an atom processor is around $8 -- Sike Sike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2458 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64706 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
mprocte1;454024 Wrote: > > > Seems that I have a wireless bandwidth issue for sure, which I'm hoping > the new router will resolve ... hopefully arriving today/tomorrow. > > Have you tried using different wireless channels? You could also use a tool like netstumbler to see what other networks you have in your area and what channels they are using. -- awy awy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7480 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New "Logitech MM STREAM Squeezebox Touch" spotted !!
JadeMonkee;454050 Wrote: > I think the best potential use for the new product would be installation > in a car. The touch screen would actually save the hassle of having to > mount the remote somewhere, and it'd look awesome in a dashboard. > I would like to use it that way... only my car is not good enough (why > bother when the car is only worth $1000, and only has one working > speaker ;) I kind of agree with you as long as the SD card support was good, IE if the library views could be used as normal whilst using local sd card usb HDD (rather than using browser view) then this would suit most peoples in car requirements. though depending on the final size of this thing the installation could be a big custom job. roll on friday when we hopefully get what we have all been waiting for for the last 2 months or so!! -- trouty00 trouty00's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30875 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64706 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
mprocte1;454024 Wrote: > Just an update on my testing last night ... > > Streaming FLAC to laptop over wireless playing with VLC did have a > couple of buffering issues, but they were recovered quickly and with far > fewer occurrences. > > With just the SB3 on the wireless network, playback was okay, but still > with a few rebufferring events. It would be very useful to provide some logs (as requested in the bug report) when running this test. Can you do that? -- Pascal Hibon Pascal Hibon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7969 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New "Logitech MM STREAM Squeezebox Touch" spotted !!
I think the best potential use for the new product would be installation
in a car. The touch screen would actually save the hassle of having to
mount the remote somewhere, and it'd look awesome in a dashboard.
I would like to use it that way... only my car is not good enough (why
bother when the car is only worth $1000, and only has one working
speaker ;)
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Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
Pascal Hibon;454012 Wrote: > I would like to invite everyone who experiences rebuffering to visit the > threads on the bug report found here: > https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13092 > > We are in need of logs to determine the root cause of the issue. The > more input we get, the faster we will see a resolution. That's ok, but please do not just dump anything to do with rebuffering into that bug. Specifically, if you have or suspect a wireless connectivity issue then do not use that bug. That bug is for investigating why streaming seems to have problems under some circumstance in 7.3 that were not present in 7.2. And remember that 7.2 was not -capable- of getting into a rebuffering state with FLAC or anything transcoded to FLAC. In that case you just got gappy output. -- awy awy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7480 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What's next for VortexBox???
+1 for musicip. Personally i wish logitech would buy out musicip and make it official - development has pretty much stalled now, has it not? It would be a great 'app' and give them a serious advantage over competitors (excluding apple who already have genius). As for album art, and very good source is www.discogs.com, especially for harder to find and sometimes better quality, which MP3tag integrates with. Could this be added, plus others? The main issue i have with Amazon is the large white border the images often have. -- autopilot Cheers, auto. *lounge:* squeezebox 3, squeezebox controller, cambridge audio 640a, mission 701's *kitchen:* squeezebox, trends ta-10.1, kef cresta 1's. *bedroom:* squeezebox boom *bathroom/garden:* squeezebox boom *car:* ipod classic 80gb autopilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67336 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New "Logitech MM STREAM Squeezebox Touch" spotted !!
Sike;453812 Wrote: > You can buy a notebook for 299 with a much larger screen.. running linux > it would be fine with a nice full music library. A specialist product like any of the Squeeze players are always going to be more expensive than generic mass produced (and I mean in the hundreds of thousands of units) hardware like netbooks. Logitech offer far better support and longer warranties than netbooks as well. Also don't forget how much all the software development that goes into these products actually costs. -- funkstar my collection: *1*x boom *2*x controller, *1*x receiver *2*x sb3 (sliver/black, *1*x sb2 wired (silver), *1*x sb (black) *1*x slimp3 (with rear shield) interested in any others if you have them! funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64706 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What's next for VortexBox???
I vote for - MusicIP pre-installed and configured (plus the ability to enter your key somewhere to use the extra features) - Some safe means of storing the MusicIP fingerprint data in the files (by either using genpuid [a working version], or making headless do it), for the people who want to have "all-in-a-box". - dual-drive possibility (1 DVD, 1HDD, 1 empty HDD slot) - a dual-core version -- Moonbase Moonbase: 'The Problem Solver' (http://www.kaufen-ist-toll.de/moonbase) Moonbase's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21594 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67336 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
Just an update on my testing last night ... Streaming FLAC to laptop over wireless playing with VLC did have a couple of buffering issues, but they were recovered quickly and with far fewer occurrences. With just the SB3 on the wireless network, playback was okay, but still with a few rebufferring events. As soon as the misses switched on her laptop (wireless), the SB3 was unusable with rebufferring events. Seems that I have a wireless bandwidth issue for sure, which I'm hoping the new router will resolve ... hopefully arriving today/tomorrow. However, the SB3's inability to recover within a short period of time and then just dropping out and freezing up is a real pain. What logs are needed to investigate this issue, and I'll post them where needed? -- mprocte1 mprocte1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32280 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
I would like to invite everyone who experiences rebuffering to visit the threads on the bug report found here: https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13092 We are in need of logs to determine the root cause of the issue. The more input we get, the faster we will see a resolution. -- Pascal Hibon Pascal Hibon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7969 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Where's Dean?
I don't have one either, neither at home nor work. Of course, this is Ticino, so we don't worry about attack. Tom Sike wrote: > mherger;453883 Wrote: > >> Hey Dean, if you make it over here, I'll show you and your family these >> >> remnants of the cold war! They've amazed all visitors we've had from >> abroad over the past decades :-) >> > > And I'll buy you a beer or two! > > mherger;453883 Wrote: > >> Michael (who's living in an old building without bomb shelter) >> > > I don't have one either, so we're probably going to be amoung the first > to bite the dust when the commies attack. The goverment was however kind > enough to send me potassium-iodide tablets in case an atomic power plant > would explode.. > > > ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Where's Dean?
> The goverment was however kind > enough to send me potassium-iodide tablets in case an atomic power plant > would explode.. I knew you must be living in Bern too :-) (and where the heck are my tablets again?...) Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Where's Dean?
ajkidle;453935 Wrote: > Brilliant! Is the use of Brilliant, art imitating life or life imitating Guinness? Glad to have you on our side now Dean. Consumer that is. Best of luck. -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67325 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
