Re: [slim] Future of Squeezebox Classic
Yes the Touch is a leap forward hardware wise very good in fact excellent hardware it exceeds my expectations by a wide margin for "SB4". It has more native formats to, less transcoding and radiostream issues. In short the upgrade we all wanted I'm getting it for the 24/96 . The tweak potential is enormous with linux onboard. But mr dBerriff has a point. The server backend has some really weak spots even if it some instances is extremely good the basic stuff is excellent it gets your music to the player. even if you discard the cd rip/network stuff as things you have to know to have a life these day's, like being an illiterate was a major problem in when newspapers where the hot new media. I have to admit that i learned networking when i got my first SB that's because it was the first time i had more than one networked device at home. I probably had to go trough the same learning curve if got another device for another purpose so this is not an exclusive SB problem it hits whoever is "first" now i'm getting ip telephony too. So running cat5 and crimping contacts will be as common as connecting extension cords or changing fuse in the fuse box . Anyway you can have Music-IP if you want to but it takes serious wizardry to set up Logitech simply *must* do a system similar to appple genuis and make it a standard part of the system. Also a lot the very nice stuff erland has done for community via his excellent pluginsis a *must be standard* but in a simplified form, especially no non standard tag hacking required. And the very weak playlist creation it still not posible to edit and build playlist without a choosen player to build it on. You cant even save changes to playlist with the controller you have to scroll trough every letter and save it again The interfaces avialable are crude, a really nice playlist editor of some kind is also a *must do now* Btw I'm not an iTunes fan either I find it confusing in some spots to i'm not used to it and iTunes also have a learning curve so it's not as unitive as people wants to believe, but it is the first player many ever sees and expects everything else to be like that. -- Mnyb No it can NOT be controlled with iTunes Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Future of Squeezebox Classic
maggior;454791 Wrote: > Hopefully users like us, who made up the user market that helped start > the entire thing, won't be left behind while the "joe sixpack" class of > users become the driving force for future product direction. Well, a lot of people do carry music and photos on USB drives and SD cards, so it's a useful feature. It also means the player itself is running a server, which is a feature many longtime users have wanted. As is 24/96 playback, a color screen, etc. There's nothing on the Touch that hasn't been requested by this community many many times. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Any deals on Boom or Classic?
That was the offer that brought me 2 of my 3 SB3s. I got 'em for $199 each because I got the now-extinct wired-only models. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67530 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Radio Free Colorado is now streaming in 5.1 Channel Surround Sound
Mike, Thanks for providing a thorough background on what RFC is doing. However, I think my original point still stands: if the original source material was mixed/recorded in 2.0, you are really getting only a facsimile of true 5.1 surround sound. This can be achieved via the -encoder- method as you described (subsequently decoded by a Dolby Digital surround receiver), _or_ via a -decoder- like Dolby ProLogicII. Regardless the result is the same. If you take "Stairway to Heaven" and RFC encodes it using a the Omnia DSP to 5.1, the end result (decoded) is essentially the same as if you take the same song via regular 2.0 CD and decode it via Dolby ProLogicII/DTS Neo:6 Music/etc. You are getting a facsimile or "fake" surround sound. True 5.1 would only come from remixing of the original session tapes to a discrete 5.1 mix. Too bad RFC doesn't have access to broadcast some of the natively-mixed 5.1 material out there... -- SamS SamS's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67535 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I always lose my playlist. Retrievability?
Ok Thanks Toby. I wish there was a warning when I played one selection that was going to bump my playlist...if you know what I mean...like "are you sure you want to play this piece that will bump your playlist?" Oh well...I'm getting spoiled by the GREAT features and awesome technology of the Squeeze System. I will be more careful. -- Ikabob Ikabob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32088 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67541 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA-controller SlimControl 0.95
Locuth;455728 Wrote: > Louis, I am currently looking into the soft-keys and the hang-up key. > I will have SControl respond to it by closing. > Thanks for the remark. > > As to the 'background' mode. Confirmed - it covers the today-screen and > I have yet to figure a way to truly put it into the background. > > Will be home tomorrow night and get to work. > Cheers > Sebastian Thanks just letting you know. Found another issue. Been using my phone in a holder so it was always upright. Turned it on its side the other day and slimcontrol didn't look to happy with it. When I turned it back it was still a bit messed up. (The Omnia changes screen orientation when you turn it on its side). -- lrossouw 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/lrossouw) lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64537 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Future of Squeezebox Classic
funkstar;455727 Wrote: > The Touch has a full USB implementation and is running Linux so really > anything is possible. USB DACs have been tried, keyboard and mice work > out of the box (the very early software had the mouse pointed visible at > all times), USB graphics adapters are also possible so are web cams. As > Autopilot said, it's just a case of someone putting together the drivers > for the device and creating an Applet to control it and enable the > functionality inside SqueezeOS. Oh my hat! People are going to go balistic with uses for it. I can imagine plugging in my mp3player to sync to my music right there in the lounge. Webcam + mic = skype on the touch? USB -> tv = big screen touch? Looks very exciting. -- lrossouw 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/lrossouw) lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Forum drop down menus
I was being blind. Sorry. Please ignore. -- lrossouw 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/lrossouw) lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67550 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Converting from vbr to abr
Good news if the ABR number is a placeholder. I'm interested in native processing of Apple Lossless because of ffwd functions and others that come with native processing. Thanks for your help. -- Blankdj Blankdj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32648 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67576 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best of Luck - moving on...
yep. feel your pain. but ive had no problems with the duet since buying 3 months ago. sc works well. controller works well. even added a boom for the bedroom. -- method man method man's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31257 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67040 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] more buffering/wireless issues
First I would try to see if you have some new source of interference. Some things, such as a neighbor's wifi network, you can see with tools such as Net Stumbler. Other things like a cordless phone, baby monitor, or poorly shielded microwave are harder to detect -- except, of course, if they are in your house. If a neighbor has put in or modified an wifi network that's causing interference you can try to change the wireless channel on your wifi router. The 3 non-overlapping channels are 1, 6, and 11. If your Transporter is still doing fine in the basement, with no dropouts, then it doesn't sound to me like the router is crapping out. If your signal strength upstairs was previously only 33% then I would suggest doing something with your current router to improve that. You could try putting on a stronger antenna on your current router, or you could add a wireless access point to an upstairs location. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] more buffering/wireless issues
I know this has been covered many times and I have read those posts. I still have questions. I am using a 20 month old Linksys wrt 100 wireless router, wireless G.My music is on a very fast Thecus n5200 Pro with tons of free space. The router is in the same room as my transporter, which is in the basement. The connection is great. I have never had a drop. Under playing settings, it says the wireless strength is 97 %. My SB3 is 2 floors up. For the past 2 years, I have not had any significant buffering/drop issues. Maybe every 3-4 weeks, there would be an issue. I would reboot the SB3 or the router or my NAS and all would be fine. For the last 10 days, however, it has been non-stop drops. I can't get it to stop even by constant rebooting. I have increased the buffer and that has helped a little, but has not fixed the problem.The wireless strength is usually around 33%, but sometimes dips to 19%. My wife's laptop (connected to wireless) has also been dropping. Anyway, do I need a new router, perhaps one with wirless N? Or, should I try something else first. Thanks in advacne for the help. -- Shredder Shredder's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11380 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Converting from vbr to abr
Blankdj;455806 Wrote: > Yes, thanks for that. What puzzles me is that the file is always > converted to 705.6 ABR, no matter what the file VBR bitrate. So > Squeezecentre appears to favour a fixed average bitrate, which then > leads to my thinking some files may be compromised in the process. Because SC does not recode the whole file before sending it (therefore it has no idea exactly how many bits it is as FLAC until it is done sending it)... The actual number is fudged. > > Is there any contemplation of players processing Apple Lossless > natively? > > Again, all comments appreicated as I'm new to all this. You're not losing any data. That's the whole point of lossless. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67576 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Converting from vbr to abr
Blankdj;455806 Wrote: > Yes, thanks for that. What puzzles me is that the file is always > converted to 705.6 ABR, no matter what the file VBR bitrate. So > Squeezecentre appears to favour a fixed average bitrate, which then > leads to my thinking some files may be compromised in the process. > > Is there any contemplation of players processing Apple Lossless > natively? > > Again, all comments appreicated as I'm new to all this. It doesn't actually know the bit rate in advance. 705.6 is just an estimate assuming 50% compression of 44.1/16 material. 50% (44.1 * 16 * 2) = 705.6. The actual FLAC bit rate is likely to be pretty close to the ALAC rate, but the important thing to realize is that no matter what the resultant bit rate IT WILL BE LOSSLESS. Some compressors are better than others, and even the same compressor can yield different bit rates by varying parameters which tell it how hard to try. When discussing lossless codecs the bitrate is no indication whatsoever of sound quality. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67576 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Converting from vbr to abr
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Blankdj wrote: > > Yes, thanks for that. What puzzles me is that the file is always > converted to 705.6 ABR, no matter what the file VBR bitrate. So > Squeezecentre appears to favour a fixed average bitrate, which then > leads to my thinking some files may be compromised in the process. That bitrate is a FLAC bitrate which means there is no loss whatsoever. Your audio is coverted from ALAC to FLAC and your audio is perfectly relayed to your audio equipment. Ben ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Converting from vbr to abr
Yes, thanks for that. What puzzles me is that the file is always converted to 705.6 ABR, no matter what the file VBR bitrate. So Squeezecentre appears to favour a fixed average bitrate, which then leads to my thinking some files may be compromised in the process. Is there any contemplation of players processing Apple Lossless natively? Again, all comments appreicated as I'm new to all this. -- Blankdj Blankdj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32648 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67576 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Converting from vbr to abr
Blankdj;455804 Wrote: > I was hoping that converting Apple Lossless to FLAC wouldn't impose a > fixed bitrate - and the quality degradation that might result. But > perhaps I don't understand what ABR is. VBR = variable bit rate ABR = average bit rate ABR -could- be "convert this stream, trying to keep it at this target bit rate" Or, in this case, it is "the stream is X bits long, and lasts Y seconds, so the average bit rate is X/Y". -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67576 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Converting from vbr to abr
I was hoping that converting Apple Lossless to FLAC wouldn't impose a fixed bitrate - and the quality degradation that might result. But perhaps I don't understand what ABR is. -- Blankdj Blankdj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32648 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67576 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] wavin2cmd
WaveInput does not work reliably with Spotify due to the way Spotify manipulates the audio subsystem. If you want to listen to Spotify - the better solution is probably DSBridge http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64590 -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67564 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] wavin2cmd
I chnaged audio setup to "What U Hear" -> i waked up everybody in the house now - SB's started to play spotify now. Thanks!! -- anpo anpo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32638 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67564 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Converting from vbr to abr
Blankdj;455774 Wrote: > I appreciate that Squeezecentre is converting Apple Lossless into FLAC > so SB3 can read, but this does not happen when playing FLAC files from > other locations. > > Any thoughts on why this might be happening and how to stop the > conversion? I don't really understand what you are asking here. Your ALAC files need to be transcoded to work on the SB3, FLAC files in another location do not need to be transcoded as they are already in a format the SB3 can play natively. Without conversion, the ALAC files cannot be played. -- funkstar my collection: *1*x squeezebox radio *1*x squeezebox touch *1*x squeezebox boom *2*x controller, *1*x receiver *2*x sb3 (sliver/black), *1*x sb2 wired (silver) *1*x sb (black), *1*x slimp3 (with rear shield) interested in any others if you have them! funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67576 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] wavin2cmd
Please give info onm your system - OS version, what type of player etc. Make sure you test playing a file not an radio stream/service (e.g. pandora) as radio streams/service can have special problems. Have you tested that your PC audio driver supports recording PC audio sound ? Use Accessory Recorder to test it. Are you running SC as a service or when user logs in ? Some users have had problems using WaveInput when running SC as a service. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67564 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] DSBridge - A simpler way to stream Spotify
tme;451216 Wrote: > i've not tried it - it's not necessary as you can just use waveinput > &co. Using Wine under Linux works as long as you: 1. Open up your linux firewall to allow traffic on TCP port 8124 2. Install the dsound.dll and lame_enc.dll files in the Spotify directory as per the normal Windows installation. 3. Under the libraries tab in winecfg, add "lame_enc" and "dsound" DLL libraries as "native, builtin" and apply. Hope that helps. -- omega12 omega12's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32649 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64590 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] wavin2cmd
Hi, Done, now it seems that it opens stream for very short time and then it closes it. Below is server.log [09-09-06 22:10:33.5288] Plugins::WaveInput::WAVIN::new (26) WavIn - new openRemoteStream begin... [09-09-06 22:10:33.5467] Plugins::WaveInput::WAVIN::new (43) WavIn - new openRemoteStream ...end [09-09-06 22:30:00.8440] Plugins::WaveInput::WAVIN::new (26) WavIn - new openRemoteStream begin... [09-09-06 22:30:00.8824] Plugins::WaveInput::WAVIN::new (43) WavIn - new openRemoteStream ...end -- anpo anpo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32638 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67564 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Converting from vbr to abr
I'm using XP operating system and iTunes library - files are Apple Lossless. My SB3 runs firmware 127 and Squeezecentre is 7.3.3. Using SB3 digital out to external DAC. No lame installed and assuming default bitrate in Squeezecentre of no limit. The following display is found on the player and Squeezecentre page for files as they play - but only for files from iTunes library: eg - Bitrate: 817kbps VBR (Converted to 705.6kbps ABR) I appreciate that Squeezecentre is converting Apple Lossless into FLAC so SB3 can read, but this does not happen when playing FLAC files from other locations. Any thoughts on why this might be happening and how to stop the conversion? -- Blankdj Blankdj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32648 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67576 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Any deals on Boom or Classic?
aubuti;455514 Wrote: > The only "$100 off two SB3s" deal that I remember was the one when they > *introduced* the SB3. They also had pretty steep discounts on the SB2 at > that time ($179). I was just checking on my memory (getting more of those "senior moments" lately). Here's the page with the 'two-fer deal' (http://web.archive.org/web/20051101094932/http://www.slimdevices.com/) from November 2005. And it turns out that they 'dropped the price of the SB2 to $199' (http://web.archive.org/web/20050828021232/http://www.slimdevices.com/) before they even announced the SB3. (I just love the 'Way Back Machine' (http://www.archive.org/web/web.php)!) -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67530 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help!! Squeezebox Controller LCD problem (displays white screen)
What did tech support have to say? -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54131 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Future of Squeezebox Classic
toby10;455700 Wrote: > I use the Touch with AudioEngine A5's via the 3.5 mm mini-plug output. Isn't that a headphone output, which presumably includes a headphone amp? I would think you would get much better audio quality by connecting the A5s to the line level RCA analog outputs using a Y-connector. That is definitely true for the SB2 and SB3. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] WEP Connection problem
dBerriff;455729 Wrote: > Glad you got it fixed. I have learnt something too, only ever having > used WEP as a demo when teaching and stuck to WPA for everything else. > Now I know there are such things as WEP key convertors. I've book marked that page for the next time ... just thinking ahead so's I don't have to ask again. -Brenton -- Tube Nube Tube Nube's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32631 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67543 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] WEP Connection problem
Glad you got it fixed. -- dBerriff iMac/SqueezeCenter, SB3, Boom, AVI ADM9.1 active speakers dBerriff's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12247 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67543 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA-controller SlimControl 0.95
lrossouw;455387 Wrote: > Omnia usually allows access to the "desktop" by pressing the hang-up key > which works in all the full screen apps I have. This doesn't work in > SlimControl. Louis, I am currently looking into the soft-keys and the hang-up key. I will have SControl respond to it by closing. Thanks for the remark. As to the 'background' mode. Confirmed - it covers the today-screen and I have yet to figure a way to truly put it into the background. Will be home tomorrow night and get to work. Cheers Sebastian -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64537 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Future of Squeezebox Classic
toby10;455700 Wrote: > No, Touch's USB is input only. To use with powered speakers you would > use the Touch's outputs (L/R, Digital Coax, Optical, mini-Plug). I use > the Touch with AudioEngine A5's via the 3.5 mm mini-plug output. The Touch has a full USB implementation and is running Linux so really anything is possible. USB DACs have been tried, keyboard and mice work out of the box (the very early software had the mouse pointed visible at all times), USB graphics adapters are also possible so are web cams. As Autopilot said, it's just a case of someone putting together the drivers for the device and creating an Applet to control it and enable the functionality inside SqueezeOS. -- funkstar my collection: *1*x squeezebox radio *1*x squeezebox touch *1*x squeezebox boom *2*x controller, *1*x receiver *2*x sb3 (sliver/black), *1*x sb2 wired (silver) *1*x sb (black), *1*x slimp3 (with rear shield) interested in any others if you have them! funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] wavin2cmd
See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=372576&postcount=215 -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67564 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] WEP Connection problem
Shi-ZAM! (to quote old Gomer Pyle) Felix, that worked. I thank you. Amazing to me what expertise can be found on these forums. -Brenton fcm4711;455601 Wrote: > Hi there > > I think it's sad that a provider "upgrades" a customers router to use > WEP as wireless encryption, because WEP is close to useless. The only > wireless encryption standard right now that is not yet cracked it WPA2. > Some even claim they can crack WPA within minutes. > > But I guess you probably aren't looking for a lecture about wireless > security but for a solution. I think you need to convert the ASCII WEP > key to a HEX key. This should give you 26 HEX numbers from your 13 ASCII > characters. > > Try a WEP key converter like this one: > > http://www.dirtymonday.net/key_convert.html > > Hope this helps > Felix -- Tube Nube Tube Nube's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32631 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67543 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Future of Squeezebox Classic
toby10;455700 Wrote: > No, Touch's USB is input only. To use with powered speakers you would > use the Touch's outputs (L/R, Digital Coax, Optical, mini-Plug). I use > the Touch with AudioEngine A5's via the 3.5 mm mini-plug output. someone on the beta test has used a usb dac. But i dont think it will support this out of the box and required some 'hacking'. -- autopilot Cheers, auto. *lounge:* squeezebox 3, squeezebox controller, cambridge audio 640a, mission 701's *kitchen:* squeezebox touch, trends ta-10.1, kef cresta 1's. *bedroom:* squeezebox boom *bathroom/garden:* squeezebox radio *car:* ipod classic 80gb autopilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] WEP Connection problem
avta;455685 Wrote: > If I remember right WEP encryption uses 10 characters. Are you certain > that's what it is? area code, cell number, area code. Yeah, 13. -- Tube Nube Tube Nube's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32631 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67543 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] WEP Connection problem
Thanks so much for your reply. They brought in a new wireless router -- something to do with the digital cable tv that was being bundled with internet service. Previously, I had no password protection. Just an open network. So he had me choose a 13 digit WEP password. That works fine to get my computer on the network, but not the SB. He gave me a cable to connect directly between my computer's ethernet port and the router if I should have to change settings. Unfortunately, I don't know how to do that, if that's what's called for. dBerriff;455586 Wrote: > WiFi terminology has been inherited from the standards side with no > attempt to make it more accessible ... > > Diagnosis at a distance is difficult but here goes... > > 1. If your internet access has been upgraded this should have no affect > on your WiFi set up. WiFi is purely internal to your network so unless > they changed the settings on your wireless base-station (or router, or > access point, or whatever you are used to calling it) nothing should > have changed. So, the first question is: what exactly did they > "upgrade". Did they mess around with your WiFi wireless settings? > > 2. WEP is an old deprecated standard. No one who knew what they were > doing (and here I mean the service provider who should not have left you > wondering how to deal with the "upgrade") would "upgrade" to this. The > current domestic standard is WPA, normally (in the UK at least) WPA with > TKIP or WPA2 Personal for domestic use. If you have been given a > password that is not a hexadecimal number (using the characters 0 - 9 > and A -F [or a - f] only) - in other words just a normal password then > you have a WPA set up. > > If you can check on or confirm the above that will help with what we > suggest next. -- Tube Nube Tube Nube's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32631 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67543 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Future of Squeezebox Classic
EowynCarter;455317 Wrote: > As a new commmer i like touch better; Mainly for the usb et sd ports :) > Boom, if it had this, would be my way to go. > > Being able to put music on something that rely on network connexion. > > Can the touch usb port be used with usb speaker ? Would be great to > have auto powered speakers. No, Touch's USB is input only. To use with powered speakers you would use the Touch's outputs (L/R, Digital Coax, Optical, mini-Plug). I use the Touch with AudioEngine A5's via the 3.5 mm mini-plug output. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I always lose my playlist. Retrievability?
Nope. At present best you can do on SN is add those items as Favorites to keep them. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67541 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Any deals on Boom or Classic?
I haven't looked in a while but you could regularly find SB3's for sale online for $230 from various vendors over the past couple years. Keep you eyes open. :) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67530 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help!! Squeezebox Controller LCD problem (displays white screen)
Yeah, well, similar thing happened to me today. My settings were to turn off the controller's screen to extend its usage (no screensaver...). But anyway, I took it from the cradle and white color all over the screen?. Bright white. Tried with resetting it to factory settings, turn it off/on, took out the battery and no go. I just hear intro sound and that's it (and white screen). I have Duet since december 2008. Player Firmware Version: Jive/7.3 r6038 -- coffeetime Yellow Dog Linux-PS3 / PCLinuxOS / Ubuntu Netbook Remix / Mandriva /Sabayon Tired after a hard day? Visit 'SomaFM' (http://somafm.com/)/'Sofaspace' (http://www.sofaspace.ch/) coffeetime's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21633 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54131 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Radio Free Colorado is now streaming in 5.1 Channel Surround Sound
Gary sent me a message tonight snipped from the site http://www.hometheaterforum.com: "DPL II is a decoder only. It works with any 2 channel stereo source whether surround encoded or not, although you will get better channel separation on Dolby Surround encoded material. DPL II works with the same Dolby Surround encoding as the original Pro Logic, but instead of a frequency limited mono surround, you get full range stereo surrounds." To forum members SAM's post here, I asked Gary at RFC about what you said: "If that is the case, wouldn't one achieve the same/similar results from engaging DPL2 on their receiver or pre-amp?" The answer RFC e-mailed to me SAM, and from what I read on the internet tonight about Surround encoding on the Dolby and other manufacturer's web sites is that the audio material (live streamed or not) needs to be encoded into a 5.1, Dolby Pro Logic II, Dolby Live, DTS, etc. format for a true _stereo_ Surround effect and Center channel effect to be achieved. (Dolby is not the only encoder brand type, just the most well known). So, SAM from what I think I now understand is that "engaging DPL2 on their receiver or preamp" as you said, is only half of the pairing. When you engage (you mean turn on?) a certain surround setting on your equipment, you are turning on the _decoder_ portion (one half) of the surround sound encoding equation. RFC is doing their part at the source by providing the _encoding_ portion of the surround sound equation, or the first 1/2 of the equation of the surround encoded stream. Gary said to me what is going on with this new RFC stream is a Surround Sound "Codec" is being used by RFC which is then embedded into the MP3 stream. Codec is a technical jargon abbreviation for "Coder/Decoder". "Encoders" apply math to encode the signal source, then the Encoded signal is followed by or sent to a "Decoder" which applies its own math to decode the encoding. The decoding could be done by a device connected by analog audio cables, a device connected by a Digital audio cable connection, a device connected to a Cable Television receiver or even from a Satellite signal. So, RFC's 5.1 channel stream (or other sound material encoded in a surround format) is the source part of the "Codec", it is the "Coder" part. Or, consider it the 1/2 of the Codec signal that is provided to you. Then, it's up to you to decide what is the most pleasing, compatible or best sounding Decoder setting to use at your end. Activating certain surround decoder settings on your receiver or preamp provides the latter 1/2 of the sources "Codec", the Decoder, meaning your selected Surround Decoder is providing 1/2 of some type of mathematical solution to the "Codec". Essentially the surround encoding by RFC is embedded into their 192 kbps MP3 stream. This is all possible since some current Dolby encoding is packaged, or carried within an AAC stream of varying bandwidth instead of MP3. I think I read somewhere that Cinema quality DTS uses a PCM bitstream. Gary told me the reason Dolby usually packages their surround encoding within an AAC stream instead of MP3, MP2 or WMA has to do with minimizing monetary royalty payments to non-Dolby patent holders. Gary said when he monitors RFC he uses the 5.1 setting on his Home Theater system and prefers the sound that way, but that your results can vary because his Home Theater system uses: "full-range tower speakers for the front left/right speakers and a large center channel JBL dialog speaker. His left/right front speakers are mated to a Velodyne powered subwoofer with its crossover set to a 6 decibels per octive bandpass slope beginning at 200 Hz" (quoted from Gary). When I activate the Surround setting on my Sony Home Theater system, doing an A/B comparison to other radio stations (FM and Internet) and then listening to Radio Free Colorado as the signal source, to me the sound just leaps out and fills the entire room with better surround imaging and clarity. Gary said the Omnia DSP unit and mating software package being used at Radio Free Colorado can and does mathematically derive separate _stereo_, full-range surround for all channels up to 5.1, whether the original source material RFC plays is surround encoded or not. Finally, I asked about 7.1 encoding, etc. and the reply I received is that Gary felt any encoding of Radio Free Colorado's stream beyond 5.1 channels would be overkill. I agree, since I have the "wife" factor to deal with, adding more speakers to the living room would cause marital distress. :( Personally I find what Radio Free Colorado is doing fascinating. RFC is still experimenting with the encoded sound level of the Subwoofer channel. Also I note in my listening to RFC that older songs, or poorly recorded songs are more easily noticed now than before. Songs with better recording quality, some of which I own on Compact Disc, sound much better on RFC than the poorer sounding songs which have a bad mix, tape hiss, etc. I
Re: [slim] WEP Connection problem
If I remember right WEP encryption uses 10 characters. Are you certain that's what it is? -- avta avta's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67543 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] wavin2cmd
Hi, Thanks, "Extension Downloader v0.1" ->settings (Recommended 3rdy party plugins) from Plugins list on SC? - there is nothing on the list there like wavin or similar? -- anpo anpo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32638 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67564 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] wavin2cmd
First remove the 1.02 as it is not supported on 7.3.x and then install the correct version of WaveInput for 7.3.x - use the Extension Downloader to install. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67564 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Forum drop down menus
Using Chrome I've only been getting drop-down on hovering with the "Buy Now | Product Info | ... | About Us" menu bar for as long as I can remember. For me the "User CP | New Posts | ... | Log Out" menu bar and the "Forum Tools" bar have always required a click to get the drop-down menu. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67550 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] wavin2cmd
Hi, I added Wave Input 1.02 to my SC 7.3.3. I added wavein:0 to Favorites in SC, but it does not connect PC sound with SB. I used wavin2cmd.exe -w -o wavin:0 > capture.wav. The file size is is growing, OK. When i try to play the file in Windows Media Player, i get ca. 1s sound. What could be wrong? How i can switch on debuging (will wavin2cmd.exe create debug file?) BR andrzej -- anpo anpo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32638 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67564 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Forum drop down menus
Using Opera 10. No change in how the menus operate for me. Is this the "Buy Now", "Product Info" etc menu, or the forum "User CP", Search" etc? -- funkstar my collection: *1*x squeezebox radio *1*x squeezebox touch *1*x squeezebox boom *2*x controller, *1*x receiver *2*x sb3 (sliver/black), *1*x sb2 wired (silver) *1*x sb (black), *1*x slimp3 (with rear shield) interested in any others if you have them! funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67550 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best of Luck - moving on...
damager;451631 Wrote: > > Unfortunately, I'm tired of the constant tinkering necessary to keep > this all working. In response to the original post, sorry, but I just can't relate to the problems you mention. I have two SB3s and a Boom all connected wirelessly, and SqeezeCenter is running on my Windows Vista desktop PC. Nothing fancy, no Linux and no dedicated server. I've had some minor problems through the years, but I find that SqueezeCenter has become so stable that I now consider my system to be more like another musical appliance. I turn it on, and it works. And that's it. Enjoy your Sonos system, but I think I'll be keeping my Slim/Logitech devices for quite awhile longer and maybe buying more. Cheers! -- corbey corbey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67040 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Where's Dean?
Dean, much has been said, so i'd just like to add/repeat: thanks for your work in the past years. SD changed my way i listen to music/audio. Together with the great community support this was a shining example of what could happen if many ingredients are put together the right way. Now you should do the things which have waited a long time. kind regards, Markus P.S. Excuse the past tense, no offense to the present company/team :-) -- schiegl schiegl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6654 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67325 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] WEP Connection problem
Hi there I think it's sad that a provider "upgrades" a customers router to use WEP as wireless encryption, because WEP is close to useless. The only wireless encryption standard right now that is not yet cracked it WPA2. Some even claim they can crack WPA within minutes. But I guess you probably aren't looking for a lecture about wireless security but for a solution. I think you need to convert the ASCII WEP key to a HEX key. This should give you 26 HEX numbers from your 13 ASCII characters. Try a WEP key converter like this one: http://www.dirtymonday.net/key_convert.html Hope this helps Felix -- fcm4711 Focus means saying "no". - Steve Jobs fcm4711's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67543 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB2 clock when off
Justme;455597 Wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a SB2 which is currently set to SqueezeNetwork. I love this as > when it is switched off, the clock comes on. > > But when I switch to SqueezeCenter, the clock is off when I switch the > device off and I get a blank screen. > > Is there any way to have the clock present when the device is switched > off when it's set up for the SqueezeCenter? (and PC is off as well) Not when the PC is off the SB2/3 has no built in realtime clock -- Mnyb No it can NOT be controlled with iTunes Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67558 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB2 clock when off
Hi all, I have a SB2 which is currently set to SqueezeNetwork. I love this as when it is switched off, the clock comes on. But when I switch to SqueezeCenter, the clock is off when I switch the device off and I get a blank screen. Is there any way to have the clock present when the device is switched off when it's set up for the SqueezeCenter? (and PC is off as well) -- Justme Justme's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67558 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] WEP Connection problem
WiFi terminology has been inherited from the standards side with no attempt to make it more accessible ... Diagnosis at a distance is difficult but here goes... 1. If your internet access has been upgraded this should have no affect on your WiFi set up. WiFi is purely internal to your network so unless they changed the settings on your wireless base-station (or router, or access point, or whatever you are used to calling it) nothing should have changed. So, the first question is: what exactly did they "upgrade". Did they mess around with your WiFi wireless settings? 2. WEP is an old deprecated standard. No one who knew what they were doing would "upgrade" to this. The current domestic standard is WPA, normally (in the UK at least) WPA with TKIP or WPA2. If you have been given a password that is not a hexadecimal number (using the characters 0 - 9 and A -F [or a - f] only) - in other words just a normal password then you have a WPA set up. If you can check on or confirm the above that will help with what we suggest next. -- dBerriff iMac/SqueezeCenter, SB3, Boom, AVI ADM9.1 active speakers dBerriff's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12247 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67543 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Forum drop down menus
Hi Using chrome and up until yesterday or so I've been getting a drop down when I hovered over the "menu bar" items (user cp, quick links etc). On Chrome the positions of the drop downs were off a bit but it still worked. Now they don't appear at all. Not sure if anyone is aware of this. Regards Louis -- lrossouw 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/lrossouw) lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67550 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tweet this album/song option?
MeSue;455519 Wrote: > I couldn't find a feed for the loved tracks. But I probably wouldn't use > it anyway since I do some many accidental loves. Sue it can be found here: http://ws.audioscrobbler.com/2.0/user/MeSue/lovedtracks.rss It is hidden away in the API documentation. I'm busy working on a script to import lots of stuff from last.fm and thinking of importing loved tracks as a playlist. -- lrossouw 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/lrossouw) lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67520 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
