Re: [slim] V3 Wired Only?
Gregavi;516599 Wrote: > I assume you wish you had both as wireless because you preferred not > running wires, when clearly wired is better from a performance > standpoint. I have enough problems with a wired connection. I cant > imagine dealing with the problems wireless presents when transferring a > lot of data. Your wireless performs well? No sudden stoppage of music? My wireless is fine unless the AP chokes. Very little interference: right now I see only 2 other networks. In a more urban setting it could very well be a problem. For me it would give me a tad more flexibility. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75188 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Seo
Hello friends, Want to share about seo... SEO is the active practice of optimizing a web site by improving internal and external aspects in order to increase the traffic which the site receives from search engines. SEO is not magic and there is no magic bullet either. SEO is a long term marketing strategy with high ROI opportunities. It s a long term commitment and a well formed strategy which is key to success, a strategy that is followed and verified and scrutinized along the way. The process of choosing targeted keyword and keyword phrases related to a site, and ensuring that the site places well when those keyword and phrases are part of a Web search. SEO helps to ensure that a site is accessible to a search engine and improves the chances that the site will be found by the search engine and the users. Thanks -- IntegratedS IntegratedS's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35154 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75207 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Hello
Hello FriendsI'm new to this forum.. Hope to have nice time around here.. Best IntegratedS -- IntegratedS IntegratedS's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35154 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75206 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] V3 Wired Only?
snarlydwarf;516460 Wrote: > It did: I have one wireless and one wired SB2. > > Wish I had bought both as wireless, but I was feeling cheap at the > time. > > (Actually the wired was pretty much a binge purchase. I realized very > quickly that one SB was simply not enough.) I assume you wish you had both as wireless because you preferred not running wires, when clearly wired is better from a performance standpoint. I have enough problems with a wired connection. I cant imagine dealing with the problems wireless presents when transferring a lot of data. Your wireless performs well? No sudden stoppage of music? -- Gregavi Gregavi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75188 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Anyone have over 100,000 tracks in their library?
I recently bought an HP EX485 MediaSmart server mainly to run squeezebox server for a squeezebox duet. After the EX485 took 3-4 days to simply create the library and index the mp3's, I realized that the server was not going to be able to handle a large library. I upgraded the server processor from a single core 2 ghz celeron to a dual core 2.8 ghz E6300 pentium processor. My server and my squeezebox receiver are hardwired into my uverse router, and I can get decent performance if I access my library from a browser. However, if I use the duet controller or ipeng, the connection can take minutes to list the files or time out when I try and access certain genres or categories. I am a little disappointed that I am having so much trouble just trying to stream to a single squeezebox receiver. My real question is how much hardware is needed to run squeezebox server reliably and be able to stream to multiple receivers with a library of 100,000 mp3's? Does anyone with a large collection have any advice on getting better performance from my library or at least the wireless controllers? Thanks! -- longhornalum longhornalum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36478 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75205 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A mystery for the smart people here.
I had a remote for an old tv that used to occasionally play havoc as it was possible to press a button and have it stick down. You then had to cover the remote with a cushion and madly press all the buttons to try and release the stuck one. While it was blasting none of the other remote controlled devices would respond to their own remotes. -- Wirrunna A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75162 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A mystery for the smart people here.
Use night vision on a personal video camera. Look for the infrared problems. -- FredFredrickson FredFredrickson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16584 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75162 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Does digital volume control cost resolution?
seanadams;164681 Wrote: > ... > This has been discussed many times here, but I won't refer you to our > archives as there have been far too many people still getting it wrong. > Instead, here's a detailed and correct explanation from Lavry (login > needed): > > http://lavryengineering.com/lavry_forum/login.php?redirect=viewtopic.php&t=76 > Lavry seems to have changed their forum. Did anyone save this offsite, or have a new link? Thanks! -- bobkoure bobkoure's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14646 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Changed routers and now
TivoManiac;516272 Wrote: > Okay incase anyone else gets this router and has this problem turn off > the SPI and you'll be set. I don't see where you said what router you bought? -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75099 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A mystery for the smart people here.
TomS;516270 Wrote: > I once had a dvd player (can't remember the brand) where the remote > refused to work when a dimmable lamp in the same room, which had a > flourescent bulb in it, was on full (torchiere style, round flourescent > bulb). It took me ages to link the two but once I figured it out all > was right with the world again. > > Good luck > > Tom Thanks I don't think I have anything like that but will keep my eye out for something like that. What gets me is that it only happens so seldom but when it does it's very wacky. What is really scary is when it happens the volume on my receiver just keeps going up when I try to increase it. I've made a couple of mad dashes to save my speakers. :( -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75162 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox v3 is Dead...
Did you try removing the wireless card? -- tcutting tcutting's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17402 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75145 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox v3 is Dead...
snarlydwarf;516463 Wrote: > Not that I've seen: a working SB doesn't get THAT hot. A bit warm > perhaps, but not uncomfortable at all. (So, maybe 80 degrees F? No > clue, I suck at estimating almost anything...) > > Of course, some components just randomly die sometimes. I tend to blow > up capacitors on video cards. ("ooh, look at the bulging top! I know > what blew up!") > > Depending on what happened as it died, it may be possible to replace if > you know someone with some soldering skill. Good points all around. :) I examined the PCB and all internal components looking for deformations, bad solders, or scorching and could not see anything. If something was obviously toasted I would not hesitate to heat up the soldering iron and attempt a fix. Can't tie the failure to an event because it was working when I left for work and dead when I got home. Testing each individual component, however, is beyond my expertise (and attention span). ;) -- Hobejam WORK TO LIVE - LIVE TO ROCK Hobejam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75145 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox v3 is Dead...
Hobejam;516453 Wrote: > > The case on this model (SB3 with "Slim Devices" on the metal face) has > no ventilation at all. Has this ever been an issue (overheating)? > Not that I've seen: a working SB doesn't get THAT hot. A bit warm perhaps, but not uncomfortable at all. (So, maybe 80 degrees F? No clue, I suck at estimating almost anything...) Of course, some components just randomly die sometimes. I tend to blow up capacitors on video cards. ("ooh, look at the bulging top! I know what blew up!") Depending on what happened as it died, it may be possible to replace if you know someone with some soldering skill. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75145 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] V3 Wired Only?
aubuti;516458 Wrote: > > I am sure that the SB2 also had a wired-only model. I'm not sure about > the SB1. It did: I have one wireless and one wired SB2. Wish I had bought both as wireless, but I was feeling cheap at the time. (Actually the wired was pretty much a binge purchase. I realized very quickly that one SB was simply not enough.) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75188 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] V3 Wired Only?
Yes, when the SB3 was introduced they offered a wired-only version that was $50 less expensive than the wifi/wired. After a year or so they discontinued the wired-only version. I am sure that the SB2 also had a wired-only model. I'm not sure about the SB1. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75188 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] V3 Wired Only?
Gregavi;516454 Wrote: > Is there a Squeezebox V3 that is 'Wired Only'? I bought a used one on > Amazon and it stated 'Wired Only'. I read that the only 'Wired Only' > version was the original SliMP3 (2001). Because wireless is not that > important to me, I bought one that said 'Wired Only' anyway. I'm just > curious if they made a V3 that way. > > Thanks in advance. Yes - I've got one (with Slim Devices logo, not Logitech) in Silver... sb1 and 2 were also available as wired-only - had those too! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB Touch Beta (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75188 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] V3 Wired Only?
Is there a Squeezebox V3 that is 'Wired Only'? I bought a used one on Amazon and it stated 'Wired Only'. I read that the only 'Wired Only' version was the original SliMP3 (2001). Because wireless is not that important to me, I bought one that said 'Wired Only' anyway. I'm just curious if they made a V3 that way. Thanks in advance. -- Gregavi Gregavi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75188 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox v3 is Dead...
Nonreality;516269 Wrote: > I really,really hate to see these SB3 failures as I love mine. Has > anyone created a study to see if these are do to a certain batch or time > frame? Mines almost 3 years old and I really depend on it. I would not > have bought it if it only had a 2-4 year lifespan. I expect at least 10 > years for my stereo equipment and have always bought quality to make > sure of this. I would be very disappointed if mine fails this soon. > It's my most favorite device ever and it would be very sad if it failed. > Plus I can't afford a replacement right now. I couldn't agree more... I have 3 SB3s and this is the first failure I have had. Took it apart last night and found what appeared to be heat related discolorations on the inside of the case and when connecting the unit to power outside the case, I immediately smelled a "hot electrical" smell. No smoke or sparks and I did not investigate further... The case on this model (SB3 with "Slim Devices" on the metal face) has no ventilation at all. Has this ever been an issue (overheating)? In answer to the previous question regarding the type of SB3, yes, it is wireless. I was able to pick up a "new still in box" SB3 on eBay for $195 yesterday to replace this one, but they are sure becoming hard to find. I have no desire to "upgrade" to the "Touch". -- Hobejam WORK TO LIVE - LIVE TO ROCK Hobejam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75145 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] App to do basic/essential controls in XP?
Moose is pretty cool. Thanks! - Jon -- jonbauer jonbauer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13615 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75186 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] App to do basic/essential controls in XP?
The closest I am aware of would be Moose. It's a bit more than you're laying out, but it does hide out in the tray when not being used. I'd love to see integration with the FoxyTunes Firefox add-in. http://www.foxytunes.com/firefox/supportedPlayers.html -- ChrisNY ChrisNY's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5004 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75186 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] App to do basic/essential controls in XP?
Hi All, Looking for a quick way to skip tracks, pause, mute, etc. from XP. Does a lil app that interfaces with your server exist - I prefer not to have to keep Squeezebox Server loaded. I'm envisioning a little applet that sits in your system tray or somethin'... - Thanx in advance! - Jon -- jonbauer jonbauer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13615 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75186 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Classic and 24-bit FLAC
Anton;516298 Wrote: > The software looks almost too good to be true! Is there a plugin that > supports WAV files? I have a terabyte of WAV files that I would like to > have access too as well as FLAC files that I've purchased. If these 192 > kHz files can be handled by SB3, surely Logitech could update the > firmware to do this natively? You can play WAV files. VortexBox player dosn't work with SB3 it's just plays the music directly to a USB or S/PDIF DAC attached to your VortexBox. You can also play through a sound card installed in your VortexBox. -- agillis rip, tag, get cover art All you do is insert the CD! http://vortexbox.org agillis Lead Developer VortexBox agillis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21140 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74662 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 bricked? (perpetual reboot)
As of today I have exactly the same problem with my SB 3 which is about 4 years old. I have had it randomly rebooting mid-song for some time already (while my other SB3 of the same age has no problem at all). But today it rebooted again mid-song and now keeps on rebooting, showing the logo and then rebooting again. Pressing + on the remote will only make it reboot before showing the logo completely. -- Mike Schenk Mike Schenk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14635 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v3
andrek;516326 Wrote: > I thought I'd give version 3.1 a try (useful idea this Date-option). > However I get a failure message : > - Error while creating ACC database > - Error number -2147217887 > - Error Description: Het ODBC stuurprogramma ondersteunt de gewenste > eigenschappen niet. > (my translation: ODBC driver doesn't support the requested features) > - Unable to continue. Click OK to quit ACC. > > When I clear the "From Date"-field everything is fine. (MySQL ODBC 5.1 > is working OK it seems). I tried various dates formats already. > > I did some further digging in the code and tried some extras: > when I add an exclusion for comment "Dummy" all of a sudden it works, > but when I keep the Comment-field empty it does not work. > > > On the topic of Exclusion: > I noticed that when I want to exclude all albums with Comment > "whatever" , also albums with an empty comment-field are excluded. > That is not what I would expect for an "exclude". (Another issue ?) > > I see in the last line log file (of the failure-case): > STATUS : <>AND tracks.timestamp > > unix_timestamp('20090101') WHERE tracks.timestamp > > unix_timestamp('20090101') GROUP BY AlbumID, AlbumName, Disc, TrackNum > ORDER BY album_artist.name, albums.titlesort, ABS(tracks.disc), > tracks.tracknum, track_artist.name, tracks.url; > > In the working-case this same line reads: > STATUS : <> AND (comments.value != 'DUMMY' ) AND > tracks.timestamp > unix_timestamp('20090101') and tracks.timestamp > > unix_timestamp('20090101') GROUP BY AlbumID, AlbumName, Disc, TrackNum > ORDER BY album_artist.name, albums.titlesort, ABS(tracks.disc), > tracks.tracknum, track_artist.name, tracks.url; > > I see some differences here: > - obviously the cmment exclusion; > - 'WHERE' is now 'and' > > Hope this helps to find this bug > > > BTW: I also noted that when I select a comment to Exclude, also all > albums with empty Comment-field are excluded. > This is not what I would expect. Hi Andre, If I remember correctly you use dutch localization settings? Your issue is likely related to that. The code I made is suppossed to cope with that but due to lack of test users hasn't been tested enough. Can you send me the acc.log file of the broken run? I may need you to run a modified version collection additional information how data is handled on a dutch localized version but the log file should already give me some direction. Frank -- SilverRS8 Author of -'AlbumCatalogCreator' (http://acc.vanholt.nl)- for SqueezeCenter '_' (http://www.badkamerpech.nl) SlimServer. 2xSB3, 1xDuet, 1xRadio, 1xiPhone iPeng, Ubuntu NAS + SBS SilverRS8's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12818 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74452 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v3
venus light;516244 Wrote: > Frank, > > As always, thanks for all your hard work with ACC. > > Quick question re: printing. I've left the setting at default. I'm > using large artwork and can get 4 album rows per page no problem. > Unfortunately, on occasion, I get some extra text lines that carry onto > the next page or sometimes, just the artwork will carry on to the next > page if there isn't room for a fourth album row. > > I've tried reducing the Maximum Track rows per page and that doesn't > seem to help with the overflow. Any thoughts? > > Thanks! I don't use the setting myself but will perform some runs. If the code can be optimized I will do so -- SilverRS8 Author of -'AlbumCatalogCreator' (http://acc.vanholt.nl)- for SqueezeCenter '_' (http://www.badkamerpech.nl) SlimServer. 2xSB3, 1xDuet, 1xRadio, 1xiPhone iPeng, Ubuntu NAS + SBS SilverRS8's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12818 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74452 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Harmony One/SB Classic+Radio conflict
Eivindz;516239 Wrote: > I'll try out these solutions. > > I agree; the easiest would be to just block the IR on the radio. I > don't use it anyway. > > I'll probably end up buying a Controller. That will solve the problem, > right? Yes. To get a feel for how the Controller would work try controlling the SB3 through the Radio (Radio *is* a Controller). Radio > Settings > Choose Player > SB3 -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75123 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Configuring an SB3
ajkidle;516343 Wrote: > . > And a question about Music Information Screen: is there a way to show > the source of the material being played? Pandora, Rhapsody, local > FLACs, etc.? Or maybe some other plug-in that accomplished this? Playlist = Station used to work, but has been broken for many months. I doubt it will be fixed as the new players cannot utilise MIS. I'm not sure it ever worked for Music Service names, just basic Station names. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75175 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Configuring an SB3
Just received my "dented box" SB3 -- very minor scuff on the box, everything inside was in mint condition. Very cool. This is my first foray with an SB3, and obviously the screen real estate is larger than I've played with in the past. I'm looking for recommendations regarding setup. Currently I'm using SuperDateTime to display weather when stopped or off, and Music Information Screen during playback. Are there other gems out there I've overlooked? And a question about Music Information Screen: is there a way to show the source of the material being played? Pandora, Rhapsody, local FLACs, etc.? Or maybe some other plug-in that accomplished this? -- ajkidle 2x SBR, SB3, Boom, Radio, iPeng ajkidle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18929 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75175 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v3
I thought I'd give version 3.1 a try (useful idea this Date-option). However I get a failure message : - Error while creating ACC database - Error number -2147217887 - Error Description: Het ODBC stuurprogramma ondersteunt de gewenste eigenschappen niet. (my translation: ODBC driver doesn't support the requested features) - Unable to continue. Click OK to quit ACC. When I clear the "From Date"-field everything is fine. (MySQL ODBC 5.1 is working OK it seems). I tried various dates formats already. I'll do some digging in the code and in my SqueezeServer settings -- andrek andrek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74452 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss