Re: [slim] Simple cheap amplifier recommendation please?
An old receiver is great for a garage system, especially if you still listen to FM. I love the old receivers from the mid 70s to early 80s. Pioneer, Yamaha, Kenwood, Sansui, Marantz. Classic, and can be had for cheap at yard sales and thrift stores. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96358 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why Logitech SB is the best thing since sliced bread!
Mnyb wrote: not easy to use !? really, you point at songs and they play ? Well they do, when you have everything set up correctly; but you have covered the networking issues, and reinforce my pont about an icreasing number of ordinary folk with reasonable computer skills. The real timesink and learning curve has been ripping and tagging , no one want's to spend that much time riping 1000's of CD's and tag them properly nowadays . This is what makes it non mass-market. You must be a collector and music enthusiast with some rudimentary order in your file collection to have any use for LMS/SBS/SC/SS Agreed. I have less than one third of my 500 CDs ripped, and the tagging is a complete mess. (The systems are geared to pop and not classical music.) Life is too short. So yes, I can see all the advantages of an online (subscription) service, but I don't use any of them. I always was a radio listener and continue to be so; but now I have a much bigger choice of classical music stations - and I flip around till I find something that suits my current mood - Squeezebox makes that easy, but there are many other ways to achieve my ends. Labarum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19963 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96300 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Simple cheap amplifier recommendation please?
JJZolx wrote: An old receiver is great for a garage system, especially if you still listen to FM. I love the old receivers from the mid 70s to early 80s. Pioneer, Yamaha, Kenwood, Sansui, Marantz. Classic, and can be had for cheap at yard sales and thrift stores. +100 what I just was typing but JJ was first.. and they look great to esp a 70's reciever a Marantz ,they don't make them like that anymore . From the 80's an old Luxman amp looks very cool . And while at the thriftstor/flea market/garage sale pick up some more speakers on the cheap if you blow them when having a garden party or similar :) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96358 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Podcast issue
mpower9 wrote: I In my case the problem is with http://feeds.mediamatters.org/mediamatters/m3?format=xml which I am trying to access in on both my Radio and Touch through mysqueezebox.com. When I click on the name of the podcast in my podcast list, the list of individual episodes comes up, but when I choose one to play, I get an error message saying No items found in playlist followed by part of the name of the episode. Each item in this podcast points to a html file which in turn has playable items but the Podcast list is formatted to say each item is a audio/mpeg playable item - so there is a mismatch and so it is a badly constructed URL. So the problem is not with LMS/Touch but with the URL. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95428 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Calling Sean Adams?
pallfreeman wrote: Sure; but in a situation when both players are wired and only mp3 is streaming? It's not actually a pure sync problem. The synchronization is pretty solid once it's established, but it sometimes hesitates when it starts, then often stops between tracks. I can usually get it going again by skipping backwards and forwards between tracks, but I shouldn't need to. After living with this for months and spending some time trying to interpret the masses of debugging output (which to me looks like a project abandoned partway through due to lack of interest), I decided to replace my lovely precious SliMP3s with some other Squeezeboxen. Just a couple of weeks before The Announcement. If SliMP3 sync is broken, I'm guessing squeezeslave is, too. We may ( reluctantly ) forgive them for not being 100% slimp3 compatible 12 years later ;) or what , and I do think sync even if it's mostly working could be even better with more work especially if play continuously AND gapless, Ime it gyrates towards correctness if you let it be in most cases it gets unstable while fiddling with the playlist and stop and skip and stuff . More things that can break sync CPU intensive plugins like Sugarcube/MusicIP or one of erlands or some interaction between them. Sugarcube can easilly block the whole server 10-20 seconds when it's adding another track depending on setting this does not empty the buffer so playback is unharmed but sync will drift . Unstable hardware clocks on the machine running a soft player , this is not at all uncommon then it will drift all over the place (this can even cause alarm problems ). Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96213 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Did I Miss a Meeting?
There are a few threads saying what will I do now that the SB is dead but I don't see an announcement. Is this confirmed? If so I am sad although I wont be leaving the platform any time soon. Fairy has been liquidized fairyliquidizer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3678 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Did I Miss a Meeting?
Yep the SB line has been replaced by a Logitech UE line that includes a re-branding of the Radio , Touch is no longer on sale by Logitech , no replacemnt anounced. The UE software or online service will not be backward compatible to older squeezeboxes . The UE software is a simplified version gearedThe UE radio is always connected to the online server even when it plays local files towards online use mostly and a simplified server for your local files . Suggest catching up in the other treads for the gory details :) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Simple cheap amplifier recommendation please?
I agree the second hand receiver route is certainly one way to go, but if you just want a basic, built like a tank, one input amp, I use one of these http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/amplifiers/products/a100 I use t as a zone amp, connected to an sb3. Cheap is relative of course, but $200 seems like good value. psketch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56555 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96358 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Simple cheap amplifier recommendation please?
psketch wrote: I agree the second hand receiver route is certainly one way to go, but if you just want a basic, built like a tank, one input amp, I use one of these http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/amplifiers/products/a100 I use t as a zone amp, connected to an sb3. Cheap is relative of course, but $200 seems like good value. How about this: http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Amplifier-TPA3123-T-Amp-Channels/dp/B0093KZUEY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1347096439sr=8-2keywords=TPA+3123 Not as pretty, and no auto on/off, but it is cheap and sounds great. castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96358 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezePlay for Mac OSX
In case anyone finds it useful, here is the script I have developed to
start ralphy's OSX version of SqueezePlay from the command line, setting
environment variables as needed.
Setting the needed environment variables is needed for Mountain Lion but
the script should also give more ease and flexibility for previous
versions of OSX.
The script assumes that squeezeslave for OSX is in the shell's command
search path. I put in /usr/local/bin as squeezeslave.
Also still assuming SqueezePlay is under Applications in your home
directory.
The sed mangling in the script copes with output from squeezeslave -L
like mine:
Output devices:
0: (Core Audio) AirPlay (2001/2011)
* 3: (Core Audio) Built-in Output (3/13)
4: (Core Audio) Soundflower (2ch) (1/11)
5: (Core Audio) Soundflower (64ch) (1/11)
6: (Core Audio) Aggregate Device (3/13)
You can select which Airplay device will be used from Audio Midi Setup's
Audio devices window (without setting Airplay as the default output). I
had to put up the volume level for Airplay in that window to get a
decent sound level.
SqueezePlay was not sending to only one device from the Aggregate Device
I tried building there.
I call my script squeezePlay and also placed it in /usr/local/bin. By
default it sets the max rate to 96Khz. Give the -s option to the script
to select another.
Airplay uses 44.1KHz but leaving at the default is fine.
snip--
#!/bin/bash
# default max sampling rate is 96000
rate=96000
rates=(44100 48000 96000 192000)
choices=(44.1kHz 48kHz 96kHz 192kHz)
# if -s argument given to script, prompt for selection from the common
rates
if [ $1 == -s ]
then echo Type the number of the max rate to use:
select choice in ${choices[@]}
do
if [ -z $choice ]
then
* echo try again
else
* rate=${rates[$((REPLY-1))]}
* echo Using ${choices[$((REPLY-1))]}
* break
fi
done
fi
echo $rate
echo Type the number of the device to use:
IFS=$'\n'
select device in `squeezeslave -L | sed -e 1d -e 's/.*Audio) //' -e 's/
([0-9]*\/[0-9]*)$//'`
do
if [ -z $device ]
then
* echo try again
else
* echo $device
* break
fi
done
unset IFS
export USEPADEVICE=$device
export USEPAMAXSAMPLERATE=$rate
open ~/Applications/SqueezePlay.app
snip--
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Re: [slim] Logitech in US Selling the Transporter SE for $999.99
Good price, but they do not ship to Europe (Sweden) Is there anywhere in Europe to buy it for the same price? joad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10944 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Did I Miss a Meeting?
This post is a good start, it gives a fairly clear view of what it means for the Squeezebox (it's not an official statement but it comes from a Logitech employee): http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96188-New-Squeezebox-Radiop=714295viewfull=1#post714295 On top of this I've also said that there is no reason to panic and buy something else at the moment, your Squeezebox worked great 2 weeks ago, it works great today and it's very likely going to work great next year. It's obvious that Logitech's involvement is likely going to decrease over time but it's also likely that someone else will provide what we need because that's how the market works, it might be an existing manufacturer or it might be someone new, we will just have to wait and see. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Squeezeslave: 1.2 released
brising wrote: anyone using squeezeslave on an NLSU2 (SlugOS) ? I managed to compile squeezeslave and run it but I only hear white noise. My usb sound card and OSS seem o work ok, I can play music using madplay without any problem. White noise is usually due to using the wrong byte ordering. In your makefile if you have -D__BIG_ENDIAN__ on the CFLAGS line remove it and then run make -f makefile realclean before rebuilding. If you don't have -D__BIG_ENDIAN__ then add it and run make realclean and then rebuild ralphy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93607 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Simple cheap amplifier recommendation please?
I don't know if the AudioSource Amp100 is available in the UK, but I have a couple and they are great. No tone controls or loudness button, but simple, robust, cheap, and sound good. http://www.amazon.com/AudioSource-AMP-100-Stereo-Power-Amplifier/dp/B00026BQJ6 aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96358 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
pallfreeman wrote: My geek personality said wow, yes, I want one, so I got one. Then the rest of me said ugh, that thing is *ugly*. Bah. That was funny. Yes, I see your point. Squeezemenicely's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41812 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
wellington wrote: http://www.jactek.com.tw/Products_jm400_M.asp That reminds me of something, can't quite put my finger on it... autopilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezePlay for Mac OSX
Thank you for putting the script together. I've updated the announcement post as well. ralphy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96328 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
GeeJay wrote: I just spent a bit of time looking over the XBMC forums and wiki. It's no small community When I referred to small communities it was to communities of users of the specific hardware players not XBMC. Within XBMC - the number of users on playing with these media players is quite small and as such support for specific hardware player issues is limited (e.g. digital audio out is choppy). bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Did I Miss a Meeting?
A factual error from me in my first response , it is so that an SB radio can be upgraded to UE Radio . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
Was this one already mentioned ? 'Cubox as an SBS server' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96068-No-one-running-LMS-off-a-Cubox). In server role it offers e-sata which is far better than USB for an external drive. As a potential player platform, this one has SPDIF out and an IR sensor. (My prayers go to the one who will tackle with the job of making this into Receiver 2.0) epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
TheLastMan wrote: How well do Vortexboxes Synchronise with each other? And will they do gapless playback? If you only have one soundcard, how do the 5 players work? Although I have 3 Vortexbox Appliances, I've never used the VB Player in the software (feeding the soundcard or USB out). I do know from the Vortexbox forums that one can setup 5 different Vortexbox software players from one soundcard (settings are in the webGUI for vortexbox players, but I have no idea of the technical method behind this). garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How many of you have spare squeezeboxes?
I just spotted this on ebay.com: new in box slimdevices sb3. Item # 150895915735 Ships to the US only (haven't asked in fact.) It still possible to find SB3s epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96198 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Please let me know what firmware I need to keep copies of and where to find them.
05mattjax wrote: Thanks. Which files do I get please. My touch is 7.7.2 do I get this one: http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/7.7.2/fab4_7.7.2_r9663.bin (33m) What are the other fab4 files? And for radio: http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/7.7.2/baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin I understand you can USB the file for touch but how would you update the radio? Thanks. There is a version file too . Radio is upgraded via the server in it's updates folder ( somehwere in cache i think ) you can manually place the fw + version file there ( or hack the version file ) then use the upgrade menu on the radio just as you normally do it. There is possibly so that you already have the correct files in LMS update folder . I would take down all files for 7.7.2 and 7.8 beta server and fw , mo 7.8 is better it's not that different but have some bug fixes ,due to the dev slowdown for making the UE software ,there is no overwhelming or experimental stuff there , it is no crasher like some other betas :) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96331 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] the new Squeezebox products are good (because servers and linux are burnt toast)
mpower9 wrote: One of the things I like about the squeezebox gadgets is that they are so flexible. I'm just a little old lady, but just reading these forums it is clear that some people (like me) just use them relatively straight out of the box without much fiddling around and others enjoy hacking around with the software (and the hardware) to make them jump through hoops and do things that no one ever thought of. It's a great community. We don't always get answers to all our problems, but that may be because people don't really know the answer. In general people here seem to be very generous with their time and advice. Your comments have really captured the complete essence of the SqueezeBox experience (and this forum). Well said! garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] the new Squeezebox products are good (because servers and linux are burnt toast)
http://www.newit.co.uk/forum/index.php NewIT sell the Sheevaplug in the UK. Their forums have a lot of good info on them, including Sheevaplug for Beginners, within which there are threads relating to installing LMS onto the Sheeva. There are also threads on copying SD cards etc. etc. so that you have a backup should an elephant fall on your Sheeva, or perhaps less likely, should your Sheeva PSU fail or whatever. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?90931-SqueezePlug-Media-Server-4-0-(final-Release) Thomas, nick truehl on these forums, has put a major and very useful effort into automating the installation of LMS on the Sheeva. All in all, over approx the past 3 years, I've found the Sheeva to be a wonderful piece of kit, and a mighty server for LMS. Live long and prosper o mighty Squeezebox and offshoots, kesey kesey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10786 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech in US Selling the Transporter SE for $999.99
Since the Transporter has a 3 year warranty could one conclude that LMS would continue services at least 3 years after the last Transporter is sold? SBT2010's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40712 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] the new Squeezebox products are good (because servers and linux are burnt toast)
mortslim wrote: If a supposed linux expert has bad spelling in his explanations, how can I trust that his coding is reliable, where every little character, punctuation mark and space have meaning? Programming is a very exact disciplin, bad spelling will not compile. Just because english is not someones native language doesn't mean that they're stupid or don't know how to write reliable code. You're frustrated, but you picked a weekendproject in an OS you don't have any experience with and where install and setup is clearly not just double clicking on an icon. This is exactly why I stayed away from this and still run LMS on a windows system. Letten's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Squeezeslave: 1.2 released
that was it! Thank you Ralphy! brising's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57162 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93607 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech in US Selling the Transporter SE for $999.99
I thought Logitech had discontinued the Transporter a couple of years ago. Does this mean they have discovered a cache of them in a warehouse somewhere and are clearing the stock or does it mean they are reviving the product (which, in view of recent announcements, seems barely credible). JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech in US Selling the Transporter SE for $999.99
JohnB wrote: I thought Logitech had discontinued the Transporter a couple of years ago. Does this mean they have discovered a cache of them in a warehouse somewhere and are clearing the stock or does it mean they are reviving the product (which, in view of recent announcements, seems barely credible). sort of. they've been selling this Transporter SE for a while now. It is basically leftovers from old Transporter components, but they didn't have the center large knob so they replaced it on the SE with a round plate to cover the hole. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech in US Selling the Transporter SE for $999.99
garym wrote: sort of. they've been selling this Transporter SE for a while now. It is basically leftovers from old Transporter components, but they didn't have the center large knob so they replaced it on the SE with a round plate to cover the hole. How cheap - they couldn't even make the dummy plate look customised! castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] the new Squeezebox products are good (because servers and linux are burnt toast)
Letten wrote: You're frustrated, but you picked a weekendproject in an OS you don't have any experience with and where install and setup is clearly not just double clicking on an icon. This is exactly why I stayed away from this and still run LMS on a windows system. Excellent point. I've been a home-schooled computer geek since 1980 and run both MS Windows and Linux computers at home. I can safely say I've had more issues over the years keeping Windows up and running than Linux. Both have had considerable learning curves. mlsstl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
bpa wrote: When I referred to small communities it was to communities of users of the specific hardware players not XBMC. Within XBMC - the number of users on playing with these media players is also quite small (compared to other hardware) and as such support for specific hardware player issues is limited (e.g. digital audio out is choppy). XBMC is only an example - the main issue is that if someone was to use Squeezeplay on a mediaplayer, either a community of technical users is needed or someone tries to make a business out of it. I see your point. It's nice to see someone actively working on the software side, though, such that when SBs are no longer viable we may at least have a starting point. GeeJay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezePlay for Mac OSX
ralphy wrote: Thank you for putting the script together. I've updated the announcement post as well. And many thanks for the new functionality - it is already proving very useful. I do think the script would also be useful for versions before ML where users need to change devices often. BTW Once you are happy it is working, you can rename it with a .command extension. You will then be able to run it by double-clicking it in Finder. You will then also want to to go to Terminal Preferences, Settings, Shell tab, and set When the shell exits to Close if the shell exited cleanly. nonnoroger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35581 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96328 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech in US Selling the Transporter SE for $999.99
I think they'll be selling these things long after they've dumped their inventory of Touches and leftover Radios. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech in US Selling the Transporter SE for $999.99
joad wrote: Good price, but they do not ship to Europe (Sweden) Is there anywhere in Europe to buy it for the same price? Not what I know of , the SE is US only I think mostly due to support issues Logitech in EU or Sweden would not know what this is if a warranty case would be at hand . But I suppose there are grey market methods to get stuff shipped to the wrong market . get a friend in US to buy it for you and send it to you , but it think there is solutions a lot of other stuff is much cheaper in US ,google I think there are services set up for things like this, but there are of course risks involved . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech in US Selling the Transporter SE for $999.99
Wonder how large their inventory of transporter parts is ? A bit cynical to build products of the spare parts , don't you think ? In the company where I work we guarantee spares 10 years after the last unit is manufactured but they could be aviable far beyond that in some cases, if possible ( I have repaired 35yo old equipment ). Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Can I connect my pc directly to SBT via ethernet ? and....
Hiya, Trying to make things simple... I think, pc with music for music, pc with everything else for everything else, two different rooms, So anyone else on the pc for everything, can't fiddle with the music pc very easily :-) At the moment I have pc for everything and music, ethernet connected to router - wireless - to extender / AP - ethernet wired to SBT, controlled by ipeng. Idea is to connect the music pc with LMS directly to the SBT via ethernet and yet still control it over the wireless ipeng, can I run two ethernet cables from one pc, one to the SBT, and one to the extender/AP or router ? Many thanks for any thoughts or suggestions. Cheers DC Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=515 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I connect my pc directly to SBT via ethernet ? and....
Can't you do: extender / AP - ethernet wired to SBT and extender / AP - ethernet wired to music PC Or I've missed something ? epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !
df9864 wrote: I have arranged all my music in folders over the years. I have about 100 gig or so, and find that navigating through my music folders (on a NAS) is slow. The albums/artists caching is great but I'd much rather go to my music through the folder structure. Is there anything I can do to speed this up or any plans to cache in a future release? Sadly this is the same when not using iPeng, folder browsing is slow on slow hardware on all interfaces ,some NAS does not have much of CPU , on faster server hardware this limitations is not always noticed . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I connect my pc directly to SBT via ethernet ? and....
Oh! did not think of plugging the pc into the extender / AP, guess that should work... As you say: Or this, if the AP doesn't include a switch (should cost very little): Code: extender / AP | v [ fast ethernet or gigabit switch ] || vv Touch music PC I'm not exactly sure what the extender /AP is now, or how it works. It used to be a router, but now with non standard firmware I down loaded, to make it talk to the main router, if it works as a switch I'm afraid I do not know, more by luck than judgement I got it to work with the SBT. :-o You can transform your music PC into a switch, but that may be a hassle. And you'd need 2 network card in it. This sounds a rather good plan to me, so it would be : extender / AP - music pc - SBTall three connected by ethernet cable in a line :-) When you say 2 network card, do you mean one card with two ports, or two separate network cards? I like that idea, many thanks, and any more thoughts or plan appreciated :-) Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=515 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I connect my pc directly to SBT via ethernet ? and....
Deaf Cat wrote: Oh! did not think of plugging the pc into the extender / AP, guess that should work#8230; #8230; I'm not exactly sure what the extender /AP is now, or how it works. It used to be a router, but now with non standard firmware I down loaded#8230; Sounds good. I'm about sure the thing will support having more than one machine connected to it via ethernet. You don't even need a switch. This is clearly the best solution, IMHO. You can transform your music PC into a switch, but that may be a hassle. And you'd need 2 network card in it. This sounds a rather good plan to me, so it would be : extender / AP - music pc - SBTall three connected by ethernet cable in a line :-) When you say 2 network card, do you mean one card with two ports, or two separate network cards? I like that idea, many thanks, and any more thoughts or plan appreciated :-) I shall not like for you, then. It could be complicated according to the OS you want to use (the OS must support bridging). When the PC is off, I repeat, no more network, nor Internet for the Touch. As helpless as an SB3 without its server. So it's not friendly, in addition of being complex and fragile. If you decide to go the complex way, any 2 types of ethernet card would do. Dual cards are more of a specialty item, and your computer already has at least one wired interface. (And perhaps a wireless one that you could use.) Check out the price of a 5-port fast (or gigabit, better) ethernet switch before buying an ethernet card and installing it in the PC ;) epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I connect my pc directly to SBT via ethernet ? and....
epoch1970 wrote: Sounds good. I'm about sure the thing will support having more than one machine connected to it via ethernet. You don't even need a switch. This is clearly the best solution, IMHO. Yes I think your right and agree! in one way :-) epoch1970 wrote: I shall not like for you, then. It could be complicated according to the OS you want to use (the OS must support bridging). When the PC is off, I repeat, no more network, nor Internet for the Touch. As helpless as an SB3 without its server. So it's not friendly, in addition of being complex and fragile. If you decide to go the complex way, any 2 types of ethernet card would do. Dual cards are more of a specialty item, and your computer already has at least one wired interface. (And perhaps a wireless one that you could use.) Check out the price of a 5-port fast (or gigabit, better) ethernet switch before buying an ethernet card and installing it in the PC ;) Hay the external switches are peanuts compared to the pci card type :-o To be honest I've only ever used the SB and SBT to play music from my hdd, never from the internet... don't think I'd miss what I have not used... I'm still rather interested in the pci card option as I'm thinking connecting the pc directly to the SBT will keep my brain happy in that there are less items in the audio system chain, fussy I know, I can't help it though :-( Will have a search on bridging and two network cards :-) fingers crossed, much cheaper than a specialty multi port card :-) Much appreciate the comments, cheers :-) Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=515 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why Logitech SB is the best thing since sliced bread!
If you want to see how a mass-market product is, well, marketed, look at the iPod, iPhone and iPad. Look at most people's music collection in iTunes. Then imagine (or verify) how that would play out with SB. Collectors (us/we) are a rare breed and always have been, it doesn't matter what decade you look to, 50's, 60's, etc. I don't believe Logitech have the required design talent in the positions required, or with the power, to make this happen. At least they have not until today. Besides mice and keyboards, their most mass-market product is the Harmony series of remotes, which in my opinion, while they have used their distribution experience/leverage to move and promote the product, they have not made it any better. They have no engineered a better mouse trap than the one they acquired. The same can be said for Squezebox. Logitech have not made any significant changes to improve the product since they acquired the technology. The remote have done well for them, but could be a lot better. Squeezebox has apparently not done so well and we all know could be much better as well. MelonMonkey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8466 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96300 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I connect my pc directly to SBT via ethernet ? and....
Deaf Cat wrote: Hiya, Trying to make things simple... I think, pc with music for music, pc with everything else for everything else, two different rooms, So anyone else on the pc for everything, can't fiddle with the music pc very easily :-) At the moment I have pc for everything and music, ethernet connected to router - wireless - to extender / AP - ethernet wired to SBT, controlled by ipeng. Idea is to connect the music pc with LMS directly to the SBT via ethernet and yet still control it over the wireless ipeng, can I run two ethernet cables from one pc, one to the SBT, and one to the extender/AP or router ? So music pc's main task is to run and supply the SBT directly connected, but the music pc (LMS) can also be accessed by the extender/AP to supply any other squeezebox's that may be around.. Many thanks for any thoughts or suggestions. I hope the above is reasonably clear :-o Cheers DCI'm not sure about the SBTouch. I KNOW this was possible with the SB2/SB3/SBReceiver. I set things up exactly this way on more than one occasion. I always used a crossover ethernet cable for the PC to SB connection and it was pretty easy to configure SB2s SB3s as wireless bridges. With the SBReceiver, it was a little more complicated...I needed to have a DHCP server running on the computer. gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why Logitech SB is the best thing since sliced bread!
The last few posts have got me wondering... what are the most expensive and/or upmarket products that Logitech have sold? Are other things being EOL'ed? I'd somehow be happier if I thought they were cutting all of their high-end products, rather than targeting SBs. pallfreeman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37667 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96300 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I connect my pc directly to SBT via ethernet ? and....
I believe you should not go into the 2nd ethernet card project. I don't see much difference between 2 cables out of the AP, and 2 cables out of the router. In case there is really a huge traffic on your network outside the music transfer from PC to Touch (this is very unlikely), you may want to use a switch dedicated to the PC and Touch. An inexpensive gigabit or fast ethernet switch connected to the PC and to the Touch, and connected to the rest of your LAN (the AP or the router), will create a direct route from the PC to the Touch. The switch is transparent to the network, and to the music of course. This will be in effect, a direct route. If you get a gigabit switch (an overkill considering the data traffic between the PC and Touch), make sure it doesn't use an active fan 5 port giga switches won't, domestic switches won't. 8 port or more, prosumer gigabit switches are quite likely to include an internal fan. Fast ethernet switches are all fanless. About the cables, you can look for cat5e or cat6 unshielded cables. shielded cables are no good, they're stiffer and can create grounding noise via the metal foil surrounding the cables. Prefer unshielded cables, unless there is a large electrical motor on the cable path. Have fun. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !
df9864 wrote: I have arranged all my music in folders over the years. I have about 100 gig or so, and find that navigating through my music folders (on a NAS) is slow. The albums/artists caching is great but I'd much rather go to my music through the folder structure. Is there anything I can do to speed this up or any plans to cache in a future release? Hi df9864, as mnyb already wrote: these folders are slow on all platforms. The only way to speed the browsing experience up, is to create some additional subfolders (like A-F, G-S, T-Z), so that each folder has a smaller set of items. It is not planned to cache the By Folder menu, as the philosophy of the Squeezebox is, that this is a live folder and that one does not need to rescan the library to access the latest items in this menu. I'm very sorry for the inconvenience caused by this. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] the new Squeezebox products are good (because servers and linux are burnt toast)
mortslim wrote: I finally decided to try a low power squeezebox server. I purchased a SheevaPlug. I have never used linux before. I guess it's a little late to wish you good luck with that. I'm just a looky-loo and a gawker. I've owned a SheevaPlug for a while, and knew the answer to some of your questions, but chose not to respond. There's an old joke about a man lost in the countryside. When asked for directions to wherever, the yokel replies well, you don't want to be starting from here. Sorry you had such a bad experience. pallfreeman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37667 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] the new Squeezebox products are good (because servers and linux are burnt toast)
mherger wrote: Then there's your router, your TV set, your music service's backend. It does seem a little strange to be ranting about how bad some software is, and instead recommending a product based on the same software... Mother used to wake the family with the sound of burnt toast being scraped. Never did me any harm. pallfreeman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37667 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?
I am trying to figure out what the Logitech is planning to do with all of us who are using Squeezeboxes and are paying for services like Spotify, MOG, premium Pandora, Rhapsody etc. Logic would suggest that Logitech was/is receiving some profits from these companies for allowing them to stream music over SB. Such users would have to cancel accounts being abandoned by Logi support. That means lost money for Logitech and this music services. Does anyone know if these services will stay with us even Logitech support will be gone? If this is gonna happen I would rather invest in good quality network enabled AV receiver that has similar functionality to SB, and will let me play paid services. I believe these guys from Logitech lost their minds. ARTMU's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57136 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Calling Sean Adams?
I still believe the classy one unit was Squeezebox 3 with Slimdevices Logo. This is true inventors legacy and it was true art and best aesthetic design. bernt wrote: Yes, bring back Slim Devices. My silver SB3 with SlimDevices logo still outperform everything else out there. ARTMU's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57136 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96213 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why Logitech SB is the best thing since sliced bread!
pallfreeman wrote: The last few posts have got me wondering... what are the most expensive and/or upmarket products that Logitech have sold? Are other things being EOL'ed? I'd somehow be happier if I thought they were cutting all of their high-end products, rather than targeting SBs. My guess is the Transporter . Logitech High End Products ? computer speakers and mice and keyboards ? Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96300 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
