[slim] Accessing BBC5 Live Sports Extra
Hi. Here in the UK, I can quite happily listen to BBC5 Live Sports Extra via the Internet, through my PC. However, trying to tune in to the same programme via my Squeezebox I merely get a recorded due to rights restrictions this program cannot be received message. I guess this must be to do with the routing of the (Internet) network, i.e. the SB is accessing the station via a link outside of the UK. Does anyone know if/how I can get round this? Regards. Geoff H. geoffh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57854 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97263 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Accessing BBC5 Live Sports Extra
Not sure if it works through the country you entered on mysqueezebox .com - but worth checking it is correct bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97263 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Accessing BBC5 Live Sports Extra
THis is due to geo ip locking and playing the WMA stream for 5LIve. There are a number of workaround but first some info is needed. What type of player are you using ? Which menu/app are you using to play 5live ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97263 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Internet Radio: changing Pause into being more like Mute
ja2038 wrote: ... Are you referring to some radio streams that offer that versus some that do not? Or are you referring to things like My Music (mp3, etc.) streams which do versus radio streams that do not?... Only referring to internet streams, local music is different. :) As others have suggested you are simply seeing the players buffer playback. How long it can buffer will depend on the stream size. Ex: 64k stream might buffer ten minutes, but a 320k stream might only buffer one minute Leave any basic station stream on over night and it will not resume where it left off. Whereas other subscription services like Rhapsody, Pandora, Deezer, etc... have the ability to actually pause/resume in that same scenario.. A true pause and resume would be your local music where you can pause the song then resume days (or even weeks/months) later exactly where you left off. assuming the LMS server has not been turned off. toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97257 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Changing to Wired Connect SB Classic
didn't get time lat night. Hopefully will over the weekend... Andy Cudlip's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19672 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97235 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Accessing BBC5 Live Sports Extra
I have an SBTouch and listen to 5LSE on a regular basis. I just found the station in the list of BBC programmes and added it. I'm listening to TMS as we speak! StridingEdge's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97263 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Do any Squeezeplayers actually have the horsepower to play 192/24 remote streams?
Triode wrote: For pcm streams which are received without any transcoding, the critical thing is for LMS to tell the player what the bitrate/sample depth is in advance. This means custom protocol handler or LMS connecting to the remote stream to parse the audio stream and then telling the player to connect a second time to actually play it. Are you able to give me any tips about how I could do this? i.e. what existing HTTP protocol handler methods (or others) would I need to override? AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97244 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Accessing BBC5 Live Sports Extra
StridingEdge wrote: I have an SBTouch and listen to 5LSE on a regular basis. I just found the station in the list of BBC programmes and added it. I'm listening to TMS as we speak! It uses this url... http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s50459formats=aac,ogg,mp3,wmpro,wma,wmvoicepartnerId=16serial=1a0f53fc9d1a5036ba35719dbe76e7d1 That URL will start playing the AAC stream before WMa and so will not have geo-ip lock issue which is specific to WMA. The OP may be using an older SB player such as SB3 which cannot play AAC nativekly or the AAC stream was not available or they have saved the WMA URL. More info fromOP is necessary for a surefire workaround. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97263 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Accessing BBC5 Live Sports Extra
Thanks bpa. My radio is a Logitech Squeezebox: Firmware version: 7.7.2 r9963 (which is the latest) Hardware version: 5 and, from the SB menu, I selected: Internet Radio/Sports/More sports and teams/Stations(+25)/BBC Radio 5 livesports extra (UK) Thanks StridingEdge. I tried that link on my PC which, as you says, worked. However, a pop-up told me this was http://www.bbc.co.uk/5livesportsextra/ - Indeed, this is the link which finds the Internet page (but you then have to click on the Listen Live icon) and thanks bonze. Not sure where I can check country although I v.much suspect I would have selected UK if given the option Thanks again guys - for your support - it is much appreciated. Regards. Geoff H. geoffh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57854 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97263 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Accessing BBC5 Live Sports Extra
Geoff Just to clarify - that URL was taken from my touch settings and that it needs no further intervention from me to enable the stream to work. I didn't mean that it was the URL for listening via the internet on a PC. If it doesn't work for you then I suspect it is as others have mentioned and a limitation for the device you have? StridingEdge's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97263 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Accessing BBC5 Live Sports Extra
With a Radio or Touch, the URL stridingedge ghave should work for you - you need to add it as a Favorite from the mysqueezebox.com web page and then play from the Favorite menu on the Radio/Touch. I suggest using the following version of the URL as it removes some Stridingedge specific details and will only play AAC version http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s50459formats=aac Alternatively, install the BBC Radio App from the App Gallery. It will give easier access to BBC live Radio stations and I think it has a workaround to handle the geo-ip WMA issue. Finally, you could install Triode's BBCiPlayer Applet which will gives access to Live streams and also Listen Again. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97263 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Accessing BBC5 Live Sports Extra
Folks, that's great, REALLY helpful some positive stuff for me to have a go at. I will get back to you at the weekend to let you know how I got on. Once again, many many thanks - v.much appreciated. and very much the positive side of the web coming through!! : ) Best Regards. Geoff H. geoffh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57854 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97263 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Internet Radio: changing Pause into being more like Mute
Depending on the station, and I am listening to streams found via internet radio search ranging from local to faraway NPR stations as well as various AM stations, I can get anywhere from 30 seconds of buffer to literally 7 or more minutes (All of LA Woman and more.) This is a terrible behavior. Either there should be 30 minutes or 60 minutes or two hours or any DVR like amount of buffering, OR There should be none of this buffering for internet radio. If I am listening to the radio for music, I don't want a song to end abruptly in the middle and go on to the current song. If I want to stop listening to the distracting/annoying talk show and wait for the next show, I don't want to restart it and listen to the annoying voice again, I want the new content. As I've said before, I do not know how to STOP a stream. I use an Android App or the Web App and near as I can tell, neither has any notion of clicking and holding. On internet radio, the pause/play button should be a stop/play button. ja2038's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40583 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97257 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Changing to Wired Connect SB Classic
I had a similar problem a long time ago and found if I used a crossover cable between the powerline adapter and the squeezebox it worked. In the end I put a switch in as I had more than my squeezebox to plugin. bert1e's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1419 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97235 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Internet Radio: changing Pause into being more like Mute
ja2038 wrote: Depending on the station, and I am listening to streams found via internet radio search ranging from local to faraway NPR stations as well as various AM stations, I can get anywhere from 30 seconds of buffer to literally 7 or more minutes (All of LA Woman and more.) This is a terrible behavior. Either there should be 30 minutes or 60 minutes or two hours or any DVR like amount of buffering, OR There should be none of this buffering for internet radio. If I am listening to the radio for music, I don't want a song to end abruptly in the middle and go on to the current song. If I want to stop listening to the distracting/annoying talk show and wait for the next show, I don't want to restart it and listen to the annoying voice again, I want the new content. As I've said before, I do not know how to STOP a stream. I use an Android App or the Web App and near as I can tell, neither has any notion of clicking and holding. On internet radio, the pause/play button should be a stop/play button. I'm not arguing with your feature request. I can see merit to it working either way but in the short term have you tried using power on/off? After turning it back on just hit play. azinck3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3967 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97257 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Please tell me it ain't so.
tin wrote: I fail to understand why it was not possible. Sure it's not possible now (well not quite true, but not without a giant u-turn on the part of Logitech). If they had altered MSB to operate exactly the same as they want with UE, and make a brand new squeezebox work exclusively in that mode. Or even they could add a third UE mode, and again out of the box it only works in that mode. Then it's down to the user to willingly and knowingly decide to go into full squeezebox mode with some obscure menu item somewhere and it only works if the thing can detect a LMS on the network. They probably wanted to change customer base, basically get rid of the geeks and music enthusiasts and start attracting mass market users who mainly want to listen to internet radio and don't ask for bug corrections and new features all the time. Their only problem at the moment is that the UE Smart Radio is too expensive for mass market users, so the next UE Smart Radio product needs to be a lot cheaper. By switching platform, they have the possibility to eventually shutdown mysqueezebox.com in a few years when most Squeezebox users have moved on to UE Smart Radio or more likely to some new exciting product from someone else with similar functionality as the Squeezebox. I can't say I'm impressed of the work they have done with the UE Smart Radio so far, but it's the first iteration of a rebranded product, maybe the first real UE Smart Radio product which they are probably working on as we speak will show the full potential of their plan. tin wrote: If LMS is the problem, maybe it's chewing up time for people on the payroll, turn it back over full time to open source. All parts of LMS that can be open sourced already is open sourced. The parts that aren't open source are those which Logitech doesn't have the right to open source because the rights are owned by other companies (installer and some codecs I think) or which Logitech can't open source because it's their company identity/trademark (logos and other graphics). Except for this, mysqueezebox.com is heavily based on LMS, so even if they would let community maintain LMS they would need to handle similar changes on mysqueezebox.com themselves, so stop maintaining LMS would only get rid of parts of the problem. By the way, the UE Music Library server which is the local server used for UE Smart Radio is also heavily based on LMS code. So possibly they might have got rid of some of the problems by removing a lot of functionality in UE Music Library server. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96999 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Internet Radio: changing Pause into being more like Mute
azinck3 wrote: I'm not arguing with your feature request. I can see merit to it working either way but in the short term have you tried using power on/off? After turning it back on just hit play. The workaround I use is to change to a different station and then come back to the station I actually want to listen to. ja2038's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40583 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97257 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Internet Radio: changing Pause into being more like Mute
Hold the pause button pressed for 2 seconds to stop the stream. jo-wie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17952 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97257 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Do any Squeezeplayers actually have the horsepower to play 192/24 remote streams?
AndrewFG wrote: Are you able to give me any tips about how I could do this? i.e. what existing HTTP protocol handler methods (or others) would I need to override? My spotify plugin will remote stream pcm (at 44.1), my signal generator plugin will stream raw pcm at up to 96k but that's direct from the protocol handler, however the idea of setting the track parameters is probably still valid. Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97244 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Do any Squeezeplayers actually have the horsepower to play 192/24 remote streams?
Triode wrote: My spotify plugin will remote stream pcm (at 44.1), my signal generator plugin will stream raw pcm at up to 96k but that's direct from the protocol handler, however the idea of setting the track parameters is probably still valid. But will this influence the frequency of buffer underruns or lessen CPU load during decoding? Have we been talking about being completely unable to play a hi-res stream, or about dropouts? I assumed it was only the latter. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97244 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Failed fetching filters from MusicIP
Does it actually cause filters not to be available. I've seen that error as well but generally my filters are available and working. lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96852 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Internet Radio: changing Pause into being more like Mute
ja2038 wrote: Depending on the station, and I am listening to streams found via internet radio search ranging from local to faraway NPR stations as well as various AM stations, I can get anywhere from 30 seconds of buffer to literally 7 or more minutes (All of LA Woman and more.) This is a terrible behavior. Either there should be 30 minutes or 60 minutes or two hours or any DVR like amount of buffering, OR There should be none of this buffering for internet radio. If I am listening to the radio for music, I don't want a song to end abruptly in the middle and go on to the current song. If I want to stop listening to the distracting/annoying talk show and wait for the next show, I don't want to restart it and listen to the annoying voice again, I want the new content. As I've said before, I do not know how to STOP a stream. I use an Android App or the Web App and near as I can tell, neither has any notion of clicking and holding. On internet radio, the pause/play button should be a stop/play button. Well, these are not recording devices, they are streamers. If you want 30 minutes to hours of recorded station streaming you need to actually record it. Buffering is needed to prevent choppy playback. If you are listening to a station and the players buffering interferes with playback, then you have a network issue. New content: just mute the volume or turn the player off till the new show starts. I'm giving examples and instructions for the physical player, not Android. If a player feature is missing from a third party control point you need to raise that as a feature request from the author/owner of that app. toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97257 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Please tell me it ain't so.
erland wrote: They probably wanted to change customer base, basically get rid of the geeks and music enthusiasts and start attracting mass market users who mainly want to listen to internet radio and don't ask for bug corrections and new features all the time. Their only problem at the moment is that the UE Smart Radio is too expensive for mass market users, so the next UE Smart Radio product needs to be a lot cheaper. Way too expensive, but they'll figure that out eventually. I think they're just trying to salvage something out the tens of millions of dollars that they pissed away on buying Slim Devices and f**king up the development and marketing of the Squeezebox line. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96999 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Please tell me it ain't so.
I recently purchased a Sonos Connect as a fail safe should Logitech pull the plug on mysqueezebox, which they eventually will, to listen to music services such as MOG. After a couple of months of use,i still prefer the Squeezebox Touch and no I don't have any 24/96/192 files and I don't exceed that 65,000 file limit or whatever it is. The Touch is simply a better product and cheaper too. jhonsber...@msn.com's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96999 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Please tell me it ain't so.
Yeah I agree with you. I wouldn't even limit it to the touch, I prefer my old SB3 to the Connect. johnas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31930 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96999 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Accessing BBC5 Live Sports Extra
Sorted!! I installed the BBC Radio App, as suggested and reception now works AOK - the problem now is, I am listening to the bad news of England getting hammered at cricket, in India so I may well remove the App!! : ) Once again, many thanks for the speedy, helpful responses - your help has been brilliant. Best Regards. Geoff H. geoffh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57854 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97263 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Internet Radio: changing Pause into being more like Mute
toby10 wrote: Well, these are not recording devices, they are streamers. If you want 30 minutes to hours of recorded station streaming you need to actually record it. Buffering is needed to prevent choppy playback. If you are listening to a station and the players buffering interferes with playback, then you have a network issue. New content: just mute the volume or turn the player off till the new show starts. I'm giving examples and instructions for the physical player, not Android. If a player feature is missing from a third party control point you need to raise that as a feature request from the author/owner of that app. Sigh. Thank you for your help. Regardless, the PLAYERS I AM USING ARE: 1) Remote Control at mysqueezebox.com (NOT A THIRD PARTY CONTROL) 2) Web Control that comes with LMS 7.7.2 (NOT A THIRD PARTY CONTROL) 3) Android Squeeze Commander. (A THIRD PARTY CONTROL) THESE ALL BEHAVE THE SAME WAY. THE WAY THEY BEHAVE IS BUGGY AND INCONSISTENT AND CONTRARY TO EITHER OF THE TWO OBVIOUS WAYS TO HANDLE A PAUSE. ja2038's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40583 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97257 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
