Re: [slim] [Announce] iPeng UE, the iOS App for the Smart Radio
erland wrote: Excellent work, a really cheap upgrade to the UE Smart Radio that makes it a LOT better for both local and online music. Definitely worth the 5 stars I just gave it in AppStore. ... Now, if Logitech would just add support for saved playlists, third party plugins/applets and ability to upgrade the Touch to UE Smart Radio firmware we would be back in business. What would the benefit be, compared to the original SBoxes? Total dependence on the Logitech server even for access to locally stored material, yes, but apart from that? I fail to see whats been improved, but I havent upgraded my radios either, Mysb.com server failure alone makes me question the wisdom of such a move, three outages in a month, seriously, who can trust these guys? With LMS running locally I hade access to my own music, internet radio and Spotify, thanks to Triode. I still believe they should have stayed with the SBoxes , perhaps invested in a mayor software rewrite? Mikael mikael_b's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44876 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97533 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [Announce] iPeng UE, the iOS App for the Smart Radio
Erland, thanks for the warm words :) And no, I won't implement playlist saving, Logitech shall do that (it would be sooo simple well, almost) ;) mikael_b wrote: I still believe they should have stayed with the SBoxes , perhaps invested in a mayor software rewrite? Well, I agree on that one (could even elaborate for days how that major software rewrite should IMHO have looked like), but it's not what they chose to do. IMHO, they overall made a big mistake, but it's not _all_ bad. They had a few goals and they did in fact meet those: - Handling on the transition between local and remote servers works much more seamless. Face it: While most of _us_ here probably run their own 24/7 server, most people out there in the wild do not. They want an internet radio and from time to time fire up their PC or Mac to listen to what's stored on there. With this scenario, the Smart Radio works much better (read: easier) than the Squeezebox. Heck, you can even run 3 PCs and mix and match tracks from all of these into one playlist. No Server switching. Now if you could only save that one... - Their new App, while certainly very limited in functionality and technically not well done (they don't support VoiceOver at all, for example, IMHO a no-go for a professional App these days) _does_ have something to it: it has a very simple (and actually very well-designed) Favorites screen where you can store your favorite radio stations. This does have it's merits: I bet a significant number of Smart Radio users really want to use this thing mainly as an internet radio for two handful of stations and the occassional listening of something else. If you are this type of user, I bet Logitech's App is perfect (well, unless you need VoiceOver, of course). A number of people have asked me about such a screen for iPeng and I have refused to do it. With reason: iPeng is made for a different kind of user, power users who listen to lot of different music from various sources and want an effective and powerful way to handle that task and who use it a lot. That's a different use case and I believe it doesn't make sense to combine the two use cases in one App. The result would be an App that fits neither use case well. Why not have two which are very different for each type of user and that's now exactly what you see here: the Logitech App that is perfectly suited for people who above all want quick and simple access to their favorite stations and to be able to maybe control the volume while listening. And iPeng for those who want to explore their library or the depths of Spotify, MOG Co. So while I personally still prefer my Squeezeboxes I do see that there will probably be a type of user who clearly prefers the Smart Radio. Now, whether that particular user might not actually be even more satisfied with an iPhone dock or an AirPlay receiver, that's a different question, but not everybody wants to stream from his or her mobile device all the time while carrying it around. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97533 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech abandoning Squeezebox?
SlimPvC wrote: Owww man this is sad sad sad... I remember the passion of the original SlimDevices owners, the way they put their heart in this product. And I remember the horror in the community when it was sold to Logitech. I do not want any of those stupid radio thingies. I want a streaming device like the Squeezebox I know. Just hope my Touch and SB2 will not die soon... :-( If your Touch or SB2 does die, there is a simple way to build your own inexpensive headless Squeezebox using a low cost / low power box (eg. Raspberry Pi) running Squeezelite. See this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?97046-Announce-Squeezelite-a-small-headless-squeezeplay-emulator-for-linux-%28alsa-only%29 The Pi's onboard audio is not very good quality, so you'll probably want to hook up a USB DAC. cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech abandoning Squeezebox?
Sad news indeed. Fortunately Squeezebox server will live on, and I imagine, someone could buy the rights... but I am also reminded of all the pro-Logitech zealots at this time... I TOLD YOU SO! djfake's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8111 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech abandoning Squeezebox?
cliveb wrote: If your Touch or SB2 does die, there is a simple way to build your own inexpensive headless Squeezebox using a low cost / low power box (eg. Raspberry Pi) running Squeezelite. See this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?97046-Announce-Squeezelite-a-small-headless-squeezeplay-emulator-for-linux-%28alsa-only%29 The Pi's onboard audio is not very good quality, so you'll probably want to hook up a USB DAC. I hope that someone can assemble a simple how-to guide on building one of these from the hardware and software standpoint, or even better, start putting together the hardware and sell it to the technically-ignorant masses. jimzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!
I have a little Question/wish. I own a Squeezebox touch for my music. The Orange Squeeze is installed on an Android MP3-Player. Recently I bought a Popcorn Hour Player for my Videos. This Device can also handle Music, even as a UPNP Client. With an app called iMediaShare I would be able (but not paracticable enough) to stream Music from my NAS to the poppy. When I played with these devices I was asking myself if it would be possible to stream the music you are currently hearing (on Touch, Squeezeplayer etc) to an UPNPClients as well, like iMediaShare does??? Just an idea? losAntonis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!
losAntonis wrote: .. if it would be possible to stream the music you are currently hearing (on Touch, Squeezeplayer etc) to an UPNPClients as well, like iMediaShare does??? Nope. UPnP/DLNA is far too simplistic limited to be a part of (i.e. Sync'd with) SB players. In fact, I'm not aware of UPnP/DLNA certified clients even being capable of Syncing to other UPnP/DLNA clients. But then, I don't bother with DLNA as that is why I have SB players, so maybe there is some roundabout method to Sync DLNA clients to each other, dunno. toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech abandoning Squeezebox?
djfake wrote: Sad news indeed, but Logitech has put the death squeeze on the entire Squeezebox line. Good news is that the software will live on, but bad news is they own the patents? for the devices. Will someone come along and buy the line? Will the old SlimDevices team buy it back? Will someone integrate SqueezeBox functionality into, say a universal player like Oppo, or setup box like Roku? We can only hope... In the meantime, off to eBay to find an old v3! Editorial: I am reminded of all the pro-Logitech zealots at this time, and all I can say is I told you so. The big corporate purchase may have been good for SlimDevices, but what analyst wouldn't have figured that this was a niche device? It's easy to play Monday morning quarterback. Though what has happened wasn't totally unexpected, it certainly did not have to be this way. Part of the issue has nothing to do with the squeezebox but the fact that the company made a HUGE blunder with the Revue, putting the entire company at risk and scrambling to recover. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Another Source of the Posts within this forum (should it ever go away)
A reminder for those that may not have seen this in the past: If we ever lose this forum (shutdown), the useful info contained in these forums is also duplicated here: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.music.equipment.slimdevices.general This is searchable, but not nearly as user friendly. But at least the info is there garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97537 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Is Olive One the answer?
TechCrunch and others are today reporting on the upcoming Olive One music player, which appears to perform many of the functions the Touch does in a very high quality way. Interesting design, and they claim top-notch DAC's and a wide range of playback formats. $400 in July (or so). Check it out. chenrikson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22407 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97539 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?
The article I found stated that for now it doesn't come with analog or digital outputs, just speaker outputs from a 32 w/ch stereo amp. If they do come out with digital outputs, it could be a SB replacement. saeyedoc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56705 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97539 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?
saeyedoc wrote: The article I found stated that for now it doesn't come with analog or digital outputs, just speaker outputs from a 32 w/ch stereo amp. If they do come out with digital outputs, it could be a SB replacement. And it seems to have it's own, very limited, internal storage, instead of playing from the network. Does it do multi-zone and synchronisation? I don't see it providing the functionality of LMS + a bunch of SBs. Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97539 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?
Took me a while to find the tech specs: http://www.myoliveone.com/Ones/tech_specs It does not have a traditional digital out. You could do Miracast streaming to a box with a form of digital out but a quick glance at the Miracast standard seems to indicate that most devices will probably only support 16-bit 48khz audio which means you're not going to get bit-perfect output. And I don't know what other transformations might happen in the Miracast pipeline. Julf wrote: And it seems to have it's own, very limited, internal storage, instead of playing from the network. Does it do multi-zone and synchronisation? I don't see it providing the functionality of LMS + a bunch of SBs. It does play from the network. Read the tech specs above. Looks like it supports UPnP. It does claim to have some form of multi-zone support. It's not clear to me if they're just saying that you can get several of these for your house and play them separately or if they're talking about actual synchronization. All that said, it looks like a pretty interesting device that might be making good trade-offs for the market it's trying to attract. The whole ecosystem has the advantage of being a clean-sheet design to integrate with the latest crop of protocols, standards and devices. azinck3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3967 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97539 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?
Thanks for the tie to the specs. I note that the One seems to provide Bluetooth and WiFi output as well as the Miracast and Speaker outs, unless I misread something there. Certainly a nice solid (6 lbs.) and attractive unit. chenrikson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22407 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97539 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech abandoning Squeezebox?
jimzak wrote: I hope that someone can assemble a simple how-to guide on building one of these from the hardware and software standpoint, or even better, start putting together the hardware and sell it to the technically-ignorant masses. It has been done http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=38t=22580 I haven't ordered a Pi yet but it looks like its easy to me d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech abandoning Squeezebox?
djfake wrote: Good news is that the software will live on, but bad news is they own the patents? for the devices. Are you sure there are any patents ? There are trademarks and code/binaries which isn't available for redistribution but I'm not sure there are any patents. djfake wrote: Will someone come along and buy the line? No djfake wrote: Will the old SlimDevices team buy it back? No djfake wrote: Will someone integrate SqueezeBox functionality into, say a universal player like Oppo, or setup box like Roku? We can only hope... If you mean the actual Squeezebox code, it's unlikely. If you mean functionality similar to Squeezebox, it will very likely happen if there is a market with enough people willing to buy such devices, it's just a matter of time. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech abandoning Squeezebox?
Most people seem content to use general purpose uPnP or DLNA devices. A friend at work told me today I need to give up on the squeezebox thing. He recently bought a Grace Radio because he wanted something generally compatable with his various uPnP devices. Why do you need a special server? he asked. I explained that general purpose doesn't really work for somebody that has a large collection and wants good sound quality, ease of library navigation, and gapless playback. He just waved his hand dismissing all of that - clearly it's not something he cares about. I suspect his feelings are pretty representative of the typical user. I think that squeezebox-like devices will continue to be a niche product. I don't think you will see this integrated into any other products. Sonos is already filling this niche and is apparently successful at it. No sure that there is really room for any more...is it really that large of a niche? maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech abandoning Squeezebox?
maggior wrote: Most people seem content to use general purpose uPnP or DLNA devices. These devices already will play mp3 files, so such a product already exists. A friend at work told me today I need to give up on the squeezebox thing. He recently bought a Grace Radio because he wanted something generally compatable with his various uPnP devices. Why do you need a special server? he asked. I explained that general purpose doesn't really work for somebody that has a large collection and wants good sound quality, ease of library navigation, and gapless playback. He just waved his hand dismissing all of that - clearly it's not something he cares about. I suspect his feelings are pretty representative of the typical user. I think that squeezebox-like devices will continue to be a niche product. I don't think you will see this integrated into any other products. Sonos is already filling this niche and is apparently successful at it. No sure that there is really room for any more...is it really that large of a niche? +1. Sad but true, I suspect. azinck3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3967 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Any ideas why this stream won't play?
Danish Radio have recently upgraded to some 192k AAC streams. This is an example below: http://ahls.gss.dr.dk/A/A03H.stream/Playlist.m3u8 I presume the Squeezebox doesn't like the playlist because it reports that there are no items in the playlist. I deleted the 8 at the end but still no joy. Any ideas please? Thanks, Nick Nick_G's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38427 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97542 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Squeezeslave: 1.2 released
Here's complete instructions for how I've connected my LMS at home to the Squeezeslave on my RPi at work. http://my.opera.com/djfake/blog/2012/12/12/squeezeslave-and-the-raspberry-pi djfake's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8111 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93607 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Touch Wall Mount project and possibly for sale!
all still available trouty00's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30875 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95115 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?
It does look interesting. A pity with all the blather about sound quality that there isn't a coaxial digital output. Out of interest, do any of the other Olive streamers such as the 4HD have access to internet radio services in the same way the SBT does? I suppose I'm asking, are they roughly equivalent to a Transporter? Nick_G's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38427 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97539 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Any ideas why this stream won't play?
Nick_G wrote: Danish Radio have recently upgraded to some 192k AAC streams. This is an example below: http://ahls.gss.dr.dk/A/A03H.stream/Playlist.m3u8 I presume the Squeezebox doesn't like the playlist because it reports that there are no items in the playlist. I deleted the 8 at the end but still no joy. Any ideas please? Thanks, Nick After trying to play the stream with mplayer which is usually more versatile than LMS - it failed. The stream format may be unsupported by LMS The playlist format has a MIME type of application/vnd.apple.mpegurl which is not supported by LMS and neither is the extension so I'm not sure LMS will know it is a playing. The contents of the m3u8 file Code: #EXTM3U #EXT-X-STREAM-INF:PROGRAM-ID=1,BANDWIDTH=213967,CODECS=mp4a.40.2 playlist.m3u8?wowzasessionid=259730292 There isno full URL which I think LMS expects (i.e. it will not add http root from playlist) and secondly the format looks to be mp4 streaming which is not supported by LMS. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97542 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Any ideas why this stream won't play?
VLC and Exaile streams this . So there is a difference between mp4 and AAC streaming ? Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97542 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Any ideas why this stream won't play?
bpa wrote: After trying to play the stream with mplayer which is usually more versatile than LMS - it failed. The stream format may be unsupported by LMS The playlist format has a MIME type of application/vnd.apple.mpegurl which is not supported by LMS and neither is the extension so I'm not sure LMS will know it is a playlist. The contents of the m3u8 file Code: #EXTM3U #EXT-X-STREAM-INF:PROGRAM-ID=1,BANDWIDTH=213967,CODECS=mp4a.40.2 playlist.m3u8?wowzasessionid=259730292 There isno full URL which I think LMS expects (i.e. it will not add http root from playlist) and secondly the format looks to be mp4 streaming which is not supported by LMS. It won't play in VLC either - so how is anyone supposed to listen to this castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97542 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Any ideas why this stream won't play?
castalla wrote: It won't play in VLC either - so how is anyone supposed to listen to this It plays on VLC on my desktop ? Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97542 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Squeezeslave: 1.2 released
I thought to share my solution using squeezeslave with Brutefir. I have rebuilt squeezeslave following the instructions some posts before (deleting: -- without jack). No luck, however at the end I find: .asoundrc Created the file .asoundrc with the following https://github.com/choongng/Music-Box/blob/master/asoundrc and placed it in /home/myusername/ The rest was a metter of configuring Brutefir in and outputs. I also used Patchage to check the routing. More on .asoundrc: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Asoundrc I am sure there is another solution, as I am completly new to Linux. Keep up the good work Ralphy! Do you plan to add higher sample rate and ALAC support? Would be able to create an even better black box music player with room correction! jnss's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57992 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93607 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] BBC Radio titles
Using LMS 7.7.2 (not MySB.com) and 2 x SBR, 1 x SBT I can quite happily listen to both live and 'listen again' streams from the BBC (I'm UK-based). But I'd like to see the title of the radio programme, and if possible the title and artist of songs being played on my SBs. Is this possible? (I've seen streams from other radio stations showing the track details...) Robert Grumpy Bob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97543 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech abandoning Squeezebox?
d6jg wrote: It has been done http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=38t=22580 That page is about running Squeezeslave on a Pi. Squeezeslave is a very different beast to Squeezelite, and is pretty much EOL. It doesn't look like there is going to be any further work on Squeezeslave. Squeezelite is clearly the future for roll-your-own players in the Squeezebox world. d6jg wrote: or easier still http://www.squeezeplug.de/ I got a page not found. However, I am vaguely aware of the Squeezeplug project and I've seen posting from its creator in the Squeezelite thread, so he is clearly looking at incorporating it. As far as I am aware, Squeezeplug is a project aimed more at the server side of things. I all you want is a player, you're better off putting just Squeezelite on a machine. d6jg wrote: I haven't ordered a Pi yet but it looks like its easy to me It is very easy. Run the armv6hf distribution of Raspbian Wheezy (downloadable from the Pi foundation), add Triode's armv6hf build of Squeezelite, and you're done. Plug in a USB DAC and with luck you should find that it is recognised by the Pi and made available to Squeezelite - at least that's what happened when I added a DAC based on the PCM2704 chip. Triode has reported that some people have had issues with some USB DACs, so it may not be completely plain sailing in some cases. cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Any ideas why this stream won't play?
Mnyb wrote: VLC and Exaile streams this . So there is a difference between mp4 and AAC streaming ? I didn't try VLC as mplayer I found that if mplayer fails then LMS will also fail. Most broadcast AAC streams use http with ADTS transport protocol - mp4 uses a MPEG4 transport and streaming MPEG4 is different to file based MPEG4 and it has different issues. I think similar issue to LMS playing MP4 podcasts. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97542 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC Radio titles
Didn't the BBC do something that broke the functionality on this? I'm sure I read this on here a while back. Why they have to keep fiddling with things that previously worked is beyond me. When I emailed them to ask about this problem I was advised to get help on this very forum! Not much help when the problem is at the BBC end... Nick_G's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38427 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97543 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Any ideas why this stream won't play?
It plays fine on VLC for me. In theory it should play on SB hardware because they play AAC natively. But it obviously uses some weird protocol as mentioned above. Thanks Danmarks Radio :rolleyes: I can play the mp3 streams but these AAC streams would probably sound better through my hi-fi. Regards, Nick Nick_G's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38427 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97542 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Any ideas why this stream won't play?
bpa wrote: I didn't try VLC as I found that if mplayer fails then LMS will also fail but it provide better diagnostics. Most broadcast AAC streams use http with ADTS transport protocol - mp4 uses a MPEG4 transport and streaming MPEG4 is different to file based MPEG4 and it has different issues. I think similar issue to LMS playing MP4 podcasts. Is this an old bug ? Would it be hard to make the server handle this , just wondering if there is any old bug on it or any change of a fix , or if OP should try to find an alternate stream in another format. Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97542 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Any ideas why this stream won't play?
ffplay will play it. So you can probably create a custom-convert.conf file and have a way to manually play it with an external helper app like ffplay. Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97542 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC Radio titles
I think over the years I've experienced several occasions when the BBC changed some aspect of their streams that required updates to the plugin(s)! Other radio stations seem to manage to supply track data quite well... Robert Grumpy Bob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97543 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC Radio titles
The BBC are moving over to a different method of delivering information, but that currently only works for Radio1 Radio1 Extra. Unfortunately, some bright spark decided to stop transmitting the old information. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?53229-Announce-BBCiPlayer-Plugin-(UK-only)p=711499viewfull=1#post711499 Tunein still transmit programme info. and pictures. Radio Local etc. bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97543 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC Radio titles
Nick_G wrote: Why they have to keep fiddling with things that previously worked is beyond me. . It called 'Taking the media experience forward' or 'Managing change' ... it's how executive managers justify their existence. If it ain't broke, break it, and spend all the budget on trying to fix it. castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97543 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC Radio titles
I'll ask the BBC about this again - last time I was told that RadioVis was the strategic solution, but there still doesn't seem to be any useful data there other than for Radio1 and 1Xtra. Also its not really parsable for now playing information. Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97543 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!
slimhase wrote: Hi db122; any chance to work on this? I checked the 2 themes you provided, but the issue is present on both of them.. I'm working on a solution for this. Thanks for your patience! db122's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4076 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Any ideas why this stream won't play?
Mnyb wrote: Is this an old bug ? Would it be hard to make the server handle this , just wondering if there is any old bug on it or any change of a fix , or if OP should try to find an alternate stream in another format. See http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17201 for MP4 podcast although my patch did not fix it fully. There is also a conf file for ffmpeg. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97542 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?
It should be noted that this isn't a finished product at all. It's doing the the kickstarter model to get off the ground http://www.indiegogo.com//OliveONE The comments page reads like they are still designing: Hey Colin and Chris, the ONE currently only has speaker outputs. However the board has been designed in a way that we can add analog and digital outputs, we would however need to provide a special adapter. We will think about it and put it up for vote later in the campaign. If you read down the indiegogo page there was appear to be syncronisation: If you have more than one room and we hope you do you can simply add ONE to each room and play the same or different songs. It takes one simple button-click to connect ONE to your network (via WPS). Casual like almost as if it doesn't matter! The spec sheet for MusicOS sounds like it could be extended to be a full on Squeezebox player: Our Software Development Kit will allow developers to build the custom apps around your music experience at home. Our built-in community platform will allow you to vote on the apps you find valuable. The possibilities are endless: Live concert apps.Karaoke. DJ apps... and much more. For my money it's pretty much spot on and they're presenting it like we have a chance to get on at the ground floor and influence how it all works, Squeezebox fans could jump on this and show Logitech what their missing. smiggs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35768 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97539 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?
smiggs, you beat me to all the tech answers. From what I am reading it is almost as if this new Olive is focused to be the best of Sonos and Squeeze and at an affordable price. Now the devil is in the details but if they deliver on what they are saying it could be a pretty good solution. One issue I have is with the footprint of this thing. I have a few booms. One is in my kitchen on a counter. The one would be just too large to be put in the same place. Also right now they have no plans to ship with the ability to connect to your home stereo although they say the pieces are there to do it at a later date. froth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11878 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97539 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?
Reviewing their website just makes me sad that Logitech never knew what they were doing with Squeezebox. This Olive thing could be vaporware, but already it's got better marketing and design aesthetics than SB ever did. I hope they're successful - the day will come when we'll all need to update our SB ecosystems. Hopefully a solution like this will be semi-mature before that day comes. ajkidle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18929 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97539 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?
It would be great if Olive could use a VLC-based audio/media player as this app is free, open-source and can play just about anything. The latest version plays the brand-new Opus audio codec. I'm sure this approach would virtually eliminate questions like why isn't x stream playing? Is this possible in a hardwarebased audio streaming device? Tunein as the internet radio search portal would be great too. Regards, Nick Nick_G's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38427 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97539 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
