Re: [slim] Interest for community maintained music streaming wiki ?
Michael, how does one go about this - I wanted to update the debian pages about a week back and don't have editor rights? What's your user name? -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
maggior wrote: > > So, when the time comes I need to move on and only a closed system is > available and it does everything I need to do well, I'll be OK with > that. > I'm interested to see what develops over the next year. My only problem with Sonos is that they don't have *' Triode' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?53229-Announce-BBCiPlayer-Plugin-(UK-only))* on their development team! His BBC iPlayer and Spotify plug-ins are the two most used plug-ins on my Squeezeboxes. In fact I reckon about 50% of my family's total listening time is accounted for with just those two facilities. Sonos do not have an iPlayer app at all and their Spotify app is not a patch on Triode's plug-in. If my Squeezeboxes fail, or Triode's plug-ins stop working, then I will be bereft... :( I am sorely tempted to pick up some back-up Squeezeboxes just in case, but if the plug-ins stop working before the Squeezeboxes do then that would be a waste of money. TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
TheLastMan wrote: > My only problem with Sonos is that they don't have *' Triode' > (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?53229-Announce-BBCiPlayer-Plugin-(UK-only))* > on their development team! > > His BBC iPlayer and Spotify plug-ins are the two most used plug-ins on > my Squeezeboxes. In fact I reckon about 50% of my family's total > listening time is accounted for with just those two facilities. > Sonos do not have an iPlayer app at all and their Spotify app is not a > patch on Triode's plug-in. > If my Squeezeboxes fail, or Triode's plug-ins stop working, then I will > be bereft... :( > I am sorely tempted to pick up some back-up Squeezeboxes just in case, > but if the plug-ins stop working before the Squeezeboxes do then that > would be a waste of money. keep an eye on the squeezelite thread, seems to be evolving rapidly. SBGK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52003 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox can't see mp3 on second line on RSS feed
I received no answers from the forums but tried a few things, no success so far. I tried to use Yahoo Pipes to customize RSS feed. Although it's new to me and I'm no programmer I managed to create RSS feeds with 2 different methods. The result RSS files are looking good and working with web browsers. Show links are sorted correctly and corresponding mp3 file link is there. I can click and play mp3 links on my browser. But on Squeezebox ( both with LMS and Controller) there are no play options of shows. They are listed without play button. I can't see any missing part on RSS. I have also added other RSS from Yahoo Pipes, they are working, so it's not a common Pipes problem. Here are my 2 sample pipes links: http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.info?_id=61e24a1b6c08053694b03df404dff459 (I couldn't link the correct madia:url so far, so I have used a static link to try it) http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.info?_id=181b9d208607e4b7291e143bd4bb447e mkkyah's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58652 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97764 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
SBGK wrote: > keep an eye on the squeezelite thread, seems to be evolving rapidly. Thanks for the heads up. Had not spotted that thread before. The guy is obviously a genius! I was aware that I could install a software player on a mini-PC, and that one comes bundled with Vortexbox anyway. I am not looking for the eptiome of small and cheap. I am quite happy to install Vortexbox on something like a Zotac atom based mini-PC if necessary, provided it will sync securely with other players. I suppose I am more worried about Triode deciding to retire from supporting his plugins. However the Squeezelite project gives me hope that he has not given up yet. What does this guy do for a living? Where does he find the time to do this stuff? He should start asking for donations. I think he might be surprised at how many use his plugins and are prepared to show their gratitude financially in order to secure continued plug-in support, particularly those of us in the UK. TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Interest for community maintained music streaming wiki ?
audiomuze wrote: > I guess a good start would be a full replication of the current wiki? > Yes, that's pretty much my idea, if we decide to do it. We just need to ensure we don't replicate anything that's clearly copyrighted to Logitech, like logo types and similar stuff. I've allocated a few potential domain names (slimdevices.org, musicdevices.info, streammusic.info) which could be used unless someone have a better suggestion (send me a mail in that case). However, before doing anything I first want to ensure there are more than a handful of people who are willing to help maintain the content, else I'm afraid it isn't worth the trouble because it will probably be more or less dead in 6-12 months. I personally feel there is a strong need because it would be so much faster to refer people to a wiki page than trying to find an instruction I've seen in some forum thread when I don't remember exactly which thread it was. The needs is also getting bigger when Logitech doesn't sell the Squeezeboxes because now it isn't just simple Squeezebox troubleshooting I'm looking for but also links and information about DIY projects like Raspbery Pi/SheevaPlug/Squeezelite and information/links about potential Squeezebox replacements. I also feel it would be a pity to loose the Slim Devices community when Logitech eventually decides to shutdown this forum, so starting with a wiki already now and in a few years extend it with a community maintained forum when Logitech no longer wants to maintain this one feels like a move in the right direction. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97718 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
TheLastMan wrote: > > I was aware that I could install a software player on a mini-PC, and > that one comes bundled with Vortexbox anyway. I am not looking for the > eptiome of small and cheap. I am quite happy to install Vortexbox on > something like a Zotac atom based mini-PC if necessary, provided it will > sync securely with other players. > I've used Squeezelite on a Zotac Zbox AD04 with its analogue output, worked great as far as I could see. It was while squeezelite was still a beta version and I tried but didn't succeed to get it to work with the HDMI output, but was more of a OS problem than a squeezelite problem since I didn't even get the HDMI audio to work with other software. Will have to try again with the latest version when I get the time. TheLastMan wrote: > > I suppose I am more worried about Triode deciding to retire from > supporting his plugins. However the Squeezelite project gives me hope > that he has not given up yet. > As all third party developers I'm sure he loves to get positive feedback and ideas for potential improvements. If you want to ensure he stays, keep giving him positive feedback, help with beta testing, troubleshooting your own and other users setup and give him ideas for potential improvements. A few years back some people were worried about using third party plugins because they were afraid they wouldn't be supported in the future, instead they wanted Logitech to add the functionality to the core because then the long term maintenance would be secured, they thought... TheLastMan wrote: > > What does this guy do for a living? Where does he find the time to do > this stuff? > It's all about priorities, reality shows on TV and sleeping 12 hours per day is generally overrated ;-) TheLastMan wrote: > > He should start asking for donations. > I think he might be surprised at how many use his plugins and are > prepared to show their gratitude financially in order to secure > continued plug-in support, particularly those of us in the UK. > Everything isn't about money, some people like to do development just because it's creative and fun and it's also nice to make people happy and get the positive feedback. Donations and commercial plugins introduce an extra level of administration and effort which is needed to keep tax authorities happy, it also have a tendency to make your hobby feel like work and obligations which isn't always positive. So if you don't need the extra money or doesn't want the extra administration, donations and commercial solutions might not be the best solution to motivate yourself. I haven't regretted my decision to make some of my plugins commercial, but I can definitely understand why some developers doesn't want to take that route because even if it's positive from a financial perspective it also introduce some new non technical challenges and negative aspects as described above. Donations generally doesn't work on longer terms, at least it didn't for me, too few users is prepared to voluntarily donate money to make it worth the effort and if you get a lot of donations the tax authorities is going to get interested and then you get the extra administration without the high revenue. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Interest for community maintained music streaming wiki ?
Agree with your suggested approach (started a replication process this morning, it's still running because I'm trying not to hammer the server. @ Michael, given its a mediawiki wiki, any chance the powers that be would permit a dump of the db to be handed over for purposes of creating an independent wiki? audiomuze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33613 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97718 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Interest for community maintained music streaming wiki ?
mherger wrote: > IMHO the best way to keep wiki.slimdevices.com alive is to actively use > and update it. The more activity there is, the smaller the risk that it > gets axed. This was pretty much my initial feeling too but then i figured logitech would probably key on forum usage not wiki visits so i'm in for both. vining's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37132 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97718 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
Thanks for the detailed feedback Erland, interesting to see what motivates you guys. I will keep an eye on Squeezlite. Most of the issues appear to be around making it work on low power devices. If it works easily with something like a Zotac Zbox then I will probably go that route in the future if I need a replacement for my Receivers. I am quite happy with a decent "analogue out". For those of us with full time jobs, wives also in full time work and kids (in my case three under 12) "time poor" is an appropriate description. I am hardly "cash rich" either, but am more able to provide a bit of cash than I am time for beta testing, etc. Very happy to give positive feedback though, and have done a few times as far as Triode is concerned. I note your comment about donations being as much of a burden as a benefit, and I can understand that. Rest assured, there are lots of us out here who appreciate the Squeezebox plug-in developers. You guys are in serious danger of creating a fully open source music streaming system. I can even see a small cottage industry developing in providing low volume, high quality, Squeezebox players and servers with pre-installed Linux OS and software that can be sold to those of us without the time, inclination or expertise to "build our own". If Agillis can do it with Vortexbox then there is room for others, I am sure. The big challenge will be keeping LMS working once Logitech turns off the MySB servers. Any chance of that? Or would it be "curtains" for the Squeezebox? erland wrote: > It's all about priorities, reality shows on TV and sleeping 12 hours per > day is generally overrated ;-) Wow! Chance wouild be a fine thing. Very fine! :) Live long and prosper... (please!) TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezePlay for Windows with ASIO, DirectSound, WASAPI and WDMKS device support.
Thanks for the support. Squeezeplay R158 is now playing HDA Wave. But I found a small problem: while playing a track, the timer status bar is jumping to sero position and after short time back to the actual played time. I have installed LogitechMediaServer-7.8.0-1353679004 2013 01 08.exe and Squeezeplay R158. This time jump you can see at: Squeezeplay R158 LMS 7.8 beta iPeng for iPad Is this a problem of the beta server? My other devices (hardware and old software player, Squeezeplay 7.7.2) havn´t this problem. Any idea? Musiclover's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34542 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96573 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Interest for community maintained music streaming wiki ?
Yes, I would be interested in authoring a few pages, or updating information from the current wiki. I did a forum post on turning a Cubox into a Squeezebox once, and that was promptly featured as a blog (http://www.solid-run.com/projects/52-how-to-turn-your-cubox-into-a-diy-squeezebox-music-player). Question, with which level of activity would you call it a success? Of course, in the beginning there would be a lot of activity, with new pages being created and current wiki information being updated. But after that... Although the forums are very active, the actual information that is new, and which should be present on the wiki isn't that frequent. 505's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44967 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97718 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Interest for community maintained music streaming wiki ?
505 wrote: > > Question, with which level of activity would you call it a success? Of > course, in the beginning there would be a lot of activity, with new > pages being created and current wiki information being updated. But > after that... Although the forums are very active, the actual > information that is new, and which should be present on the wiki isn't > that frequent. > I'm satisfied if we can reach a level where we manage to keep most of the information up to date. Most parts related to Squeezebox hardware or LMS aren't going to need much updates since Logitech doesn't do much work, other parts regarding third party hardware/software will probably be a bit more dynamic. A guess would be that after the initial work we at least have a few updates per month or something similar, I certainly doesn't expect it to be updated on daily basis. I think the main work is going to be to clean it up initially and later to to keep parts regarding third party hardware/software updated. As I mentioned in my previous post I would like to community wiki to be able to also contain information about non Logitech/Squeezebox hardware and that part will probably be more dynamic since that hardware/software might be actively developed. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97718 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
TheLastMan wrote: > > The big challenge will be keeping LMS working once Logitech turns off > the MySB servers. Any chance of that? Or would it be "curtains" for the > Squeezebox? > I'm not that worried, we are probably talking about at least 2 years in the future, probably longer, I'm fairly sure the market will find a solution suitable for our needs by then. It might not be Squeezebox hardware but as long as it offers similar features most of us will be happy to switch to it. For local music LMS will continue to work a long time after MySB servers has been shutdown. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Win 8 - Squeezeplay no is connecting
Squeezeplay stopped connecting after 3 days. banned for life's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56269 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97661 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] bitwise controls - URL Scheme for the iPad Logitech Squeezebox app
iPeng 2.0.9 and iPeng for iPad 1.4.9 (actually iPeng UE 1.0.2, too) now support a separate URL parameter to select a player. The player has to be connected to a server that is visible to iPeng (either auto discoverable or manually configured) or the parameter gets ignored. The format is described here: https://trac.penguinlovesmusic.de/trac/ipengnat/wiki/URLScheme Please try it out, it's not really well tested. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87802 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Interest for community maintained music streaming wiki ?
@ Michael, given its a mediawiki wiki, any chance the powers that be would permit a dump of the db to be handed over for purposes of creating an independent wiki? While I still think running your own wiki is not a great idea, there might be a chance if you approach it the right way. Pretty often if you can make someone believe he can save a few bucks, wonders can happen. If you try to get that data, you should make clear that Logitech could shut down its wiki. Not only would this be a motivator to hand over the data, but it would also prevent the risk of split effort. That said I haven't spoken to anyone here about this plan. If you're serious about it I could bring up the topic. I just don't want to wake up the sleeping dog who might decide to shut the wiki down without any transition... -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Interest for community maintained music streaming wiki ?
audiomuze wrote: > @ Michael, given its a mediawiki wiki, any chance the powers that be > would permit a dump of the db to be handed over for purposes of creating > an independent wiki? While I still think running your own wiki is not a great idea, there might be a chance to get the data if you approach it the right way. Pretty often wonders can happen if you can make someone believe he can save a few bucks. If you try to get that data, you should make clear that Logitech could shut down its wiki _afterwards_. Not only would this be a motivator to hand over the data, but it would also prevent the risk of split effort. That said I haven't spoken to anyone here about this plan. If you're serious about it I can bring up the topic. I just don't want to wake up the sleeping dog who might decide to shut the wiki down without any transition instead... mherger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97718 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
