Re: [slim] Squeezebox server platform choice. Readynas?
Dogberry2 wrote: > LMS in any flavor is supported by enthusiasts; there is no "officially > supported" path anymore. I'm still running it on a ReadyNAS Ultra 4, and > haven't had a hiccup in years; I just upgrade disk storage as needed > when space gets low (which the ReadyNAS makes very easy). But whatever > platform you go with, the LMS build you use will be unofficial. Is that true? I think mherge is a Logitech employee and the mainteainer of LMS. SB Touch optical to Hegel H90, Boston Acoustics A26 Spare SB3 AirPlay Bridge to Audio Pro A10 SB BOOM @work, AUX, Squeezelite-x connected to home LMS with Neorouter. SB Radio ReadyNAS 202 iPeng bernt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110109 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Another yesr
I believe that if Logitech built full LMS control for Google Play and Alexa with an easier to configure Duet receiver they could be right back in the game. And oh ya, some marketing that knew what they had would also help. Main system - Rock Solid with LMS 7.9.1 Official on WHS 2011 - 2 Duets and Squeeseslave Cabin system - Rock solid with LMS 7.9.1 Official on Win10 Pro - 1 RPi 3 Model B/Hifiberry DAC+ Pro/PiCorePlayer and Squeezeslave w3wilkes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22973 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109939 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Another yesr
Paul Webster wrote: > People who come here (to this particular forum) are almost certainly > the ones who, when they managed to get hold of the UE radio, tried to > switch it back to support a local LMS. A switch which Logitech initially > said was not possible and then updated firmware to make it possible and > officially endorsed it. > Anyway - I remain delighted that it keeps working and that there is a > very supportive and dedicated handful of people that not only add things > and fix things but also provide great support here. That describes me very well. I stumbled across the UE Radio, probably when it was being closed out. I had no knowledge of the history behind it, but it looked interesting. I used it with the stock firmware for a week before upgrading it to the Squeezebox Radio firmware. After reading about what was possible with the Squeezebox firmware, I couldn't think of any reason not to go that route. Not long after I started using LMS, I forgot about the Radio, as I was strictly using software players. I've recently rediscovered the Radio and put it back into use. It's a very welcome addition to the home audio system that has evolved over the past five years. But, good as it is, LMS is much more important to me. I agree that Logitech probably blundered when they abandoned the Squeezebox hardware platform, but I'm very grateful that they've allowed LMS development to continue, and supported it to some extent. I can't help wondering how much longer that will continue, and if the user community will find a way to keep going when mysqueezebox.com and this forum shut down. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109939 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Another yesr
dmcdayton wrote: > > Sowhat happened Logitech? Did you fire the wrong people? Did they > leave on their own accord? Or did your Product Managers screw up? Or > Marketing?... He he he - I agree that (management at) Logitech screwed up. They basically lost a fantastic opportunity after acquiring Slimdevices from Sean Adams. We're talking many years ago when the power of open source wasn't well known from a commercial perspective, and only few knew how to make money off of it, so today we can happily look back and see how this platform was gifted to us. Instead of Logitech making waves, SONOS showed up. To gauge exactly how big of a blunder was made by Logitech management, just look at the sizes and net value of those two companies. Example: Logitech = 7000 employees, SONOS ca. 1400 (so 20%). /Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109939 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Another yesr
Paul Webster wrote: > Plus ... Logitech did have a go at a device that did not rely on a local > LMS ... the UE Radio. It relied on one being run, and still being run, > by Logitech over Internet. > > People who come here (to this particular forum) are almost certainly the > ones who, when they managed to get hold of the UE radio, tried to switch > it back to support a local LMS. A switch which Logitech initially said > was not possible and then updated firmware to make it possible and > officially endorsed it. > > While it still seems strange to me that they remain in the home audio > market it is only for speakers (bluetooth or wired) and have no > internet-enabled audio devices (even dropped Airplay and never did > Chromecast I think). > > However, they did keep the backend stuff working and continue to let > Michael Herger work on things (as a side line to what though Michael?) - > plus Michael devotes his private time to work on it as well. > > Anyway - I remain delighted that it keeps working and that there is a > very supportive and dedicated handful of people that not only add things > and fix things but also provide great support here. I am sure we have debated this before but one does wonder what might happen in the future. Do we rely on Logitech? Yes. To pay Michael a salary and to pay for the hosting of this forum and MySqueezebox.com (which perhaps is nearly superfluous) and also the hidden support things like releasing a used SB from a previous owner. However that aside if someone wanted to they could presumably take the Open Source software and re-badge it alongside a new line of devices but no one has and the reasons are that to setup and run an SB/LMS still requires a level of skill that is beyond the general consumer. The only income stream would be the new SB devices and we have seen to that idea by the existence of Phillipe's bridges and the likes of piCorePlayer and max2play. To create sufficient demand the device would need to be idiot proof which brings us back to the UE Radio and MySqueezebox.com. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109939 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Another yesr
Plus ... Logitech did have a go at a device that did not rely on a local LMS ... the UE Radio. It relied on one being run, and still being run, by Logitech over Internet. People who come here (to this particular forum) are almost certainly the ones who, when they managed to get hold of the UE radio, tried to switch it back to support a local LMS. A switch which Logitech initially said was not possible and then updated firmware to make it possible and officially endorsed it. While it still seems strange to me that they remain in the home audio market it is only for speakers (bluetooth or wired) and have no internet-enabled audio devices (even dropped Airplay and never did Chromecast I think). However, they did keep the backend stuff working and continue to let Michael Herger work on things (as a side line to what though Michael?) - plus Michael devotes his private time to work on it as well. Anyway - I remain delighted that it keeps working and that there is a very supportive and dedicated handful of people that not only add things and fix things but also provide great support here. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Author Radio France (FIP etc) plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109939 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox server platform choice. Readynas?
revoli wrote: > Thanks. I do have a spare synology NAS but its only the 211 so not up > to the job. > > It sounds as if LMS is now supported by enthusiasts which makes me > wonder about future proofing. I dont want to shell out for kit only to > find LMS no longer works on it. Is Pi the route most folks are taking? > Whats the best threads /sources to start on with this? > > If Readynas not updating their applets then doesnt seem worth > bothering about a new NAS to run it. The whole point was it was one > unit that managed itself, power efficient etc. A shame as this worked > really well. I might ask Netgear about LMS. Seems an easy win for them > to me. Failing that I guess I will just have to run everything off a PC > until I can work out the best way to go. LMS in any flavor is supported by enthusiasts; there is no "officially supported" path anymore. I'm still running it on a ReadyNAS Ultra 4, and haven't had a hiccup in years; I just upgrade disk storage as needed when space gets low (which the ReadyNAS makes very easy). But whatever platform you go with, the LMS build you use will be unofficial. Dogberry2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110109 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] You learn something new everyday
cliveb wrote: > I'm sorry but this is completely wrong. Normalisation is the application > of linear amplification so as to bring the peak level to a defined value > (usually, but not necessarily, 0db). > It most definitely does not affect the dynamics. > > My advice to the OP is to go ahead and normalise his Bob Marley needle > drop, and then recalculate the replay gain values. Probably all depends on the tools used. I haven't gone back and checked since discovering ReplayGain, but at the very least the "volume normalization" feature in Windows Mediaplayer adversely affected dynamics and was irreversibly applied to the files ... I agree that the "official" definition indeed is as you say. Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004 + TMA Premium 905 + TMA Premium 901 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 + BK Monolith+ FF + Lenovo T460 + Kodi + Pioneer PDP-LX5090H Workshop: iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Wherever needed: Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Kitchen: iPhone 5s + iPeng (local playback activated) + NAD 312 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 Headphone (cozy corner): Lenovo T550 + Squeezelite-X + Cyrus Soundkey + Topping A30 + Focal Elear Car: TBC ... bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110072 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Another yesr
dmcdayton wrote: > Get rid of the LMS if that's the boat anchor! > Actually it's not the anchor but the reason you've got all these services. If this was relying on the hardware (and the software on the device) alone it would be long dead. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109939 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
