Re: [slim] Which online services do you use (if any)?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 Question: Which online services do you use? - Deezer - Internet Radio / TuneIn - Last.fm - MOG - Pandora - Rhapsody/Napster - Slacker - Spotify - Other (i.e. one I've forgotten) - NONE - I don't use any online services Voted. BBC iPlayer, Live365, Spotify, TuneIn and Shoutcast are all in regular use here. Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] UE Radio or . . . ?
Also have an Archos 35 Home Connect. The quickest way I have found of using TuneIn is to hit the search icon and type in the name of the station you want - saves all that scolling about. For the BBC, TuneIn plays either the WMA or AAC streams natively (you can select which if you want). Sound quality from the Archos is not up to the standard of the SB radio, but still very good for such a small device in my view. Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96695 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 almost dead..
OK... here are the bones of it: 1) You will need a LM317T chip (the type in a TO220 package). Fortunately these are cheap and easily available. 2) You will also need a small clip-on heat sink for the LM317T. 3) When you have the above, unsolder Q3 from the circuit board and remove. 4) The LM317T will need to be soldered onto the circuit board. The attach points are: the end of the component marked 'LF125' nearest to D14 for the input pin; the end of D14 nearest the power socket for the output pin; the end of D14 furthest from the power socket for the adjust pin. 5) Now the fiddly bit: before soldering the LM317T is soldered in place, you will need to cut and bend the three pins so that when attached to the three points above, the chip and its heatsink lay parallel to the circuit board without touching any of the components underneath. 6) Solder the LM317T in place and check that the case can be reassembled without pushing the body of the LM317T onto the circuit board. 7) Test that everything is now working. 8) It is important to note that the LM317T is a linear regulator, so it will generate more heat than the original swith mode circuit.For that reason, it would be *very* advisabe to swich the SB3 off at the mains when not in use rather then leaving it powered on 24x7. I would describe the above as a bodge rather than a repair, but it saved one of my SB3s from the bin. Note that if you try the above, it is at your own risk. It may be worth askng in the DIY section of this board if anyone there can think of a more elegant solution than the above. -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80209 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 almost dead..
The issue is that the 1.2V supply to the CPU is shutting down soon after power on. Judging by the measurements you took the most likely causes in my view would be: 1) A hairline crack in a solder joint in the circuit around U17 and Q3, which opens up when things start to warm up. It would be worth examining the circuit board in this area with a magnifying glass to see if there is anything obvious. 2) Either Q3 or U17 is failing. If this is the case, unless you have access to the correct spare parts and are experienced with surface mounted components, it is not going to be easy to repair back into its original state unfortunately. Have you contacted Logitech to ask whether they can still repair SB3s ? If as I suspect the answer is no, I could suggest a 'quick and dirty' method of restoring the 1.2V supply to the CPU if you are handy with a soldering iron. Not entirely satisfactory as a repair, but you might want to give it a try if the only other option is binning the SB3. -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80209 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 almost dead..
It looks as if the problem is with the 1.2V supply to the SB3's CPU (the part marked IP3023 on the duaghter board under the wireless card). The problem I had was also with the 1.2V supply, but I am not sure if the cause is the same yet. As far as I can determine, the 1.2V supply is generated from the 5V line by U17 (switch mode regulator chip) in conjuntion with Q3 (FET), and then fed to the CPU via L4. If you have a look at page 5 of the datasheet for U17, you can see roughly what we are dealing with: http://www.chipsinfo.com/NJR/NJU7630.htm We need to narrow down the problem a little further - would you be able to measure the voltage at each leg of Q3 ? If at all possible, let everything cool down and measure the voltages again before the display goes blank. -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80209 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 almost dead..
Your issue seems similar to one I had with a SB3 a while ago. What I would suggest is measuring the internal supply voltages (particularly the 1.2V supply at L4) as described in the thread below and posting the results here: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74844 -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80209 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transcode MP3 Stream to MP3?
I have used the following line in custom-convert.conf to transcode mp3 streams that will not otherwise play on my old SLIMP3: mp3 mp3 slimp3 * [lame] --mp3input --resample 44100 --silent -q $QUALITY$ --abr $BITRATE$ $FILE$ - Also, do you have lame installed correctly ? -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78966 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB 3 dead
Nonreality;505884 Wrote: > ianf, can you post the card number and the ebay link for those of us > that have sb3's. I might want to get one for the future. Plus the price > if you could? Thanks, NR See my earlier post; the oriinal auction has expired - the current one is: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360225796722 5.99 UKP -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73567 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB 3 dead
No idea why they fail or if usage is a factor, but I have a couple of spares now following a failed card in a SB3 a while ago. Probably the best way of ensuring that it will never fail again :) -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73567 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB 3 dead
For a SB3, you need a card based on the Atheros AR2413 chipset. If you search the forums for that chipset name, you should find some other postings about this. I think this one should do (probably !): http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360222793844 -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73567 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox: Wifi and Health
1. To some extent yes, but probably only significant if they are playing at the same time. 2. I think so, but ths is something that Logitech should be able to confirm definitively. Note though that the amount of energy that a Wi-Fi device generates is very low unless it is actively exchanging data. 3. Yes in my experience and yes. Adam. -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70112 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox: Wifi and Health
A couple of years ago the BBC fell for one of the scaremongers: http://www.badscience.net/2007/11/bbc-editorial-complaints-unit-debags-the-panorama-wifi-scare/ -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70112 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox: Wifi and Health
Nonreality;475757 Wrote: > You'll look stupid... Hmmm... http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/ -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70112 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox: Wifi and Health
mlsstl;475633 Wrote: > Keep in mind that radio waves follow the inverse square law - if you > double the distance, the strength of the signal is only a quarter of > what it was at the shorter distance. > Exactly my point - the scare stories in the press always omit this small but important point. A mobile phone handset will generate 2 Watts of RF energy typically, and a fair proportion of this will be absorbed by the body as the device is pressed up against the head. A Wi-Fi device generates 0.05 Watts typically and is genrally further away - put these together and any "threat" is orders of magnitude less. The fact that many live near regional or national radio and TV transmitters generating anything up to 1 million Watts seems to pass without comment. Not the whole story I know, but acknowledging this simple fact at least puts the "risk" from Wi-Fi into some sort of context. -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70112 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox: Wifi and Health
SuperQ;475525 Wrote: > No, don't worry, it's all fearmongering. Totally agree. My take is that public anxiety over the safety of Wi-Fi is unecessary and mostly the result of irresponsible and ill-informed speculation in the press. Many of the stories that appear use overly emotive language and betray a poor understanding of the science involved (why do reporters insist on referring to the emmissions from mobile phones and Wi-Fi devices as "radiation" when "radio waves" would be a more appropriate term in an article aimed at the non-specialist reader ?) A Wi-Fi device is in effect a very low power radio transmitter - we have been living and working in close proximity to such things for the best part of a century, so the idea that there are still undiscovered health risks assocaited with them is just not credible in my view. -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70112 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can't play internet radio
If you go to SqueezeCenter / Settings / Advanced / File Types and set Windows Media from 'Native' to 'Disabled' and hit 'Apply', the stream should play. -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54567 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Overheating SB3 CPU ?
MrSinatra;355396 Wrote: > wow, scary. > > have u tried contacting support? i would think they may be interested > in getting the unit back to see what went wrong. I have been in touch with them and this has ended with EMEA support sending me a replacement SB3. Partly out of idle curiosity, and partly due to some enforced idleness caused by a bout of 'flu, I decided to track down the cause of the problem. It appears that the switch mode regulator (NJU7630) that generates the supply for the CPU has failed, as the output is now stuck at the supply voltage (5V) regardless of the input. The end result is that Q3 was passing about 2.7V to the CPU board, hence the hot CPU and the very hot Q3 due to the excess current it was passing. This is probably not directly repairable, as the regulator part is not available retail and even if it was, it hard to say what other damage may have been caused. Adam. -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54253 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Overheating SB3 CPU ?
Not sure if this is relevant, but Q3 is running at close to 150 degrees C and a small area of board near the top of Q3 looks slightly burnt. -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54253 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Overheating SB3 CPU ?
norman12;353755 Wrote: > Ok, > The cpu should be receiving 1.2v from the onboard regulators, not sure > where to probe at the moment (easy on the SBR - the test pads are plain > to see). I'll check for you tomorrow. Many thanks. Just tried the probe in a freshly boiled kettle thing, and got a reading of 98C, so it isn't far off. Adam. -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54253 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Overheating SB3 CPU ?
norman12;353732 Wrote: > I've measured 64 degrees C on the cpu with a type K T/C, what type of > sensor/probe is being used to measure the case temperature. Also, 7.5 > watts seems a little high, I measure 6 watts from the wall. What file > format is the squeezebox decoding? The temperature was measured with the probe that came with my multimeter - not sure exactly what type it is. Even if the reading is a bit off, the CPU still gets hot enough to burn skin :/ The current draw of 1.45A was measured with the SB3 idling. Adam. -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54253 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Overheating SB3 CPU ?
Definately 100 C. Also just spotted this: http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/v...c.php?p=219713 Mine is drawing 1.45A, which does not look good by comparison. Adam. -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54253 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Overheating SB3 CPU ?
Phil Leigh;353618 Wrote: > 100 degrees on a CPU? - that cannot be right. Must be a faulty m-board > or PSU in the SB3. Can you check the current being drawn by the PSU > with a multimeter? My thinking exactly - 50 or 60 degrees I could understand, but 100 must be well outside the device spec. I measured the voltage being supplied by the external PSU at 5.17V off load, which seems reasonable. The SB3 is drawing 1.45A, with the wireless card still removed. Adam. -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54253 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Overheating SB3 CPU ?
My SB3 recently developed a fault in that it now invariably crashes after a brief period of use (display goes blank and no sound). It is now out of warranty, and as this is now the third hardware fault I have had with this unit, I am inclined to bin it rather than pay for a further repair. However, I thought I would make some attempt to diagnose the problem first. When this SB3 was repaired previously, the symptoms were exactly the same. On that occasion, the wireless card was found to be the cause and it was replaced. Based on a guess that I had the same issue again I replaced the wireless card myself, but this did not solve the problem. Removing the wireless card completely did not stop the crashes either, but the SB3 did run for considerably longer before doing so without the card in situ. Then I noticed that the CPU (IP3023) was running very hot. Holding a temperature probe against the CPU (i.e. not the best thermal contact), the probe read 100 degrees celcius after a few minutes. Is this normal (doubtful), or could this point to the root cause (a problem with the power circuitry feeding the CPU for example). Can anyone suggest where to look next ? Thanks, Adam. -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54253 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SLIMP3 and Internet Radio Resampling
Just got this working - in the end, mplayer was not needed as lame can handle the whole process. All that is needed are these lines added to convert.conf: mp3 mp3 slimp3 * [lame] --mp3input --resample 44100 --silent -q $QUALITY$ --abr $BITRATE$ - - Adam. -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41353 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SLIMP3 and Internet Radio Resampling
Thanks - this is not going to be as easy a problem to solve as I thought. In the end I tried the command without the -ac and -demuxer parameters. Some Shoutcast streams play fine with this, but when I try to play others (or any Live365 streams at all) nothing happens, except for a message from Vista telling me that socketwrapper has stopped working, and SS eventually crashing. This is unfortunate, as it appears that all Live365 stations streaming at 32Kbps also use a sampling rate of 16KHz, which means that there is a whole class of stations no longer supported on the SLIMP3. Looks like I will need to spend some quality time on this over the holidays. Adam. -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41353 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SLIMP3 and Internet Radio Resampling
Hi, I tried to base it on the approach used for handling AAC+, so I replaced: mp3 mp3 * * - ... with: mp3 mp3 * * [mplayer] -ac faad -demuxer mp3 -really-quiet -vc null -vo null -cache 64 -af volume=0,resample=44100:0:1,channels=2 -ao pcm:nowaveheader:file=#PIPE# $FILE$ | [lame] --silent -r -x -q $QUALITY$ -b $BITRATE$ - - This does not seem to work though. Thanks, Adam. -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41353 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SLIMP3 and Internet Radio Resampling
Hi, A Live365 station I listen to sometimes recently starting streaming with a sampling rate of 16 KHz. My SB3 has no problem playing this stream, but my SLIMP3 cannot handle it. Is there any way to configure SS so that all MP3 streams are re-encoded to 44 Khz ? I have tried to construct a suitable entry in convert.conf using mplayer and lame, but no luck so far. Thanks, Adam. -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41353 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Live365 VIP Member Issue
Slimserver 6.5.0 seemed to break Live365 support for me - it has not worked since. Live365 via Squeezenetwork is still working fine, so I'm using my VIP account with that for now. Adam. -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28764 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: live365 question
There are some stations on Live365 that stream at 96 Kbps, but most are at 64 Kbps or less, all the way down to 8 Kbps (what a treat). I think the real advantage of Live365 is that it provides a better range of music programming than any other online service (at least that I've found). Yes, the sound quality could be better on many of the streams but that is a secondary consideration for me. Adam. -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23958 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Palm or Pocket PC
I think the Lifedrive is a great PDA, but some users have complained of stability problems. The TX seems to have been better received, but lacks the 4GB hard drive and is only slightly cheaper than the Lifedrive now. Best to read the forums at Brighthand and decide for yourself... http://forum.brighthand.com/forumdisplay.php?f=12 Adam -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22742 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Palm or Pocket PC
I have used a Sony Clie TH-55 and a Palm Lifedrive to control my SB3... both work fine. Any of the reasonably recent PalmOS devices with a built in web browser should do the job. Adam. -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22742 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
