Re: [slim] Now Playing screen for classical music

2010-09-22 Thread Co1

Cape11;577993 Wrote: 
> 
> I'm only on 7.5.1 and I'll not get to 7.6 until it becomes official.
> 
I made the proposal for 7.6, because that is in development now. I
thought there is a better chance to get it accepted.

Cape11;577993 Wrote: 
> 
> Now yes, you can see the Lyrics tag in the LH column of SqueezeCenter
> player page, but only as a part-column window; on a small screen (such
> as an eeePC) all you get is a miserly three lines.
> 
> (By the way: I approve your choice of the Perahia Beethoven sonatas - a
> superb CD!)

A netbook is maybe the right thing to view libretti on. I made my Now
Playing screen for the controller; its tiny screen is not suited to
show a libretto on, IMHO. Are you using the built-in lyrics view? There
are some plug-ins around, that may work better for you. I have no
experience with them myself, though.

The interpretation from Perahia is indeed superb. But also the
recording is excellent. Very natural sounding piano. I know from my
audio days way back that pianos (and cembalos) are the most difficult
instruments to record.


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Re: [slim] Now Playing screen for classical music

2010-09-19 Thread Co1

erland;577644 Wrote: 
> With Custom Scan you can configure these to be available as a title
> format.
> If you also install the "Custom Clock Helper" plugin you can configure
> it to forward "customclock/titleformatsupdated" events to the
> Controller.
> 
Thanks for the pointer.

erland;577644 Wrote: 
> Of course, if you just want a user defined Now Playing screen, you can
> also design own without any programming at all using Custom Clock and
> Custom Clock Helper. 
> 
Hm, I thought that Custom Clock was only about showing clocks. I have
overlooked a lot of possibilities. I'll have a look to see if the same
Now Playing screen can be realized in this way.

regards,


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Re: [slim] Now Playing screen for classical music

2010-09-19 Thread Co1

jean2;577634 Wrote: 
> I'm using exclusively FLAC file and I'm therefore using the FLAC
> standard to tag my classical music, i.e. ARTIST for Beethoven and
> PERFORMER for Karajan. How difficult would it be to modify your screen
> to support that ?
> 
> You must be using Custom Tags (like I do). I have not figured out a way
> to get those data from the server to the Now Playing applet on the
> controller. 
> So I worked with what data fields are available in Squeezeboxserver
> without 3rd party plugins.
> 
> Do you see Performers in the current Now Playing screen?
> I know they can be shown in the browse menus. But those would look the
> same if you would copy all Artist tags to Composer, Performer tags to
> Artist, and change the mapping of tag names to names shown to the user
> in the Mixed Tags settings. Another way to look at this is to merely
> consider the Squeezeboxserver Artist and Composer fields as internal
> (and confusing) representations of the Performer and Artist FLAC tags.
> 
> But anyway, I'd love to find a way to show Custom tags in the Now
> Playing screen of the Controller.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Co


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Re: [slim] Now Playing screen for classical music

2010-09-19 Thread Co1

Yes, in your case it would only show the composer separately, whom you
already have in the album title. Unless you have followed the composer
name by a unique separator character, it will be a lot of work to
re-tag everything. 

I was not that happy with the three lines of information from the
beginning, so I used tags as atomic as possible; I have COMPOSER, WORK,
MOVEMENT, OPUS, COMPOSER, CONDUCTOR, BAND, and ARTIST. I could have
split up the artists further, e.g. giving each a solo instrument, etc.,
but I am too lazy for that.
Until I made the new screen, I composed the TITLE and ALBUM from those
ingredients, using MP3tag.


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Re: [slim] Now Playing screen for classical music

2010-09-18 Thread Co1

The new screen is an extra NP view. You can cycle through the available
NP screens on the controller by rotating the wheel half a turn. I was
so nasty to make the classical NP screen the default, but that might be
changed. (I seem to belong to a minority group with my taste for
classical music).
In vs 7.6 one can select which NP views will be shown.
Even on the classical music NP screen, pop music does not look too
bad.
The top row on the screen will be empty. I have attached an example.

Posting the patches on your repository is great. I do not know how many
more I will build. Please bear in mind that also the server needs a
patch. It is kind of strange that the metadata for conductor etc. is
retrieved, but not passed on to the controller.

BTW, I have a custom tag OPUS, which I would like to add to the album
title in the NP screen. How do I go about retrieving a custom tag in
the Controller?


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[slim] Now Playing screen for classical music

2010-09-17 Thread Co1

I have modified the Now Playing screen for the Controller, so that it
becomes more useful for classical music.
The current two lines of text are in a lot cases not enough to show all
relevant information.
I have filed a bug http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16561 ,
with the needed patches attached.
The patches are for 7.6.0, both on the server and on Squeezeplay.
To use the Now Playing screen with classical music, the COMPOSER,
CONDUCTOR, and BAND tags are used. The various ARTIST tags should be
used for soloists.
The ALBUM tag is used to show the Work, but can also be used for a
collection of short pieces. Then the piece, and movement should be
tagged in the TITLE tag.

The patches are for the Controller only, but it should be fairly easy
to make similar modifications for the other Squeezeplay based devices.

Please vote for this bug, if you want this implemented.

Co van Winsum


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