[slim] Slim Devices Misses The Boat
I couldn't think of a better thread title but it is exactly what I was thinking last night after ordering a SB, downloading and reading all I could about what Slim Server really was versus my expectations, locating and downloading EAC. Configuring EAC, downloading FLAC, oh and remembering to put in a fake e-mail address when configuring EAC, setting up freedb, reconfiguring EAC from a different web site, and then after a couple of long hours, FINALLY getting my first rip from EAC that I hope will work when the SB actually arrives. I'm not a new computer user and understand a few terms and some the newest technology. I have set up and run my 5 computer network in my offices but am not an engineer or IT guy. I LOVE the idea of the Squeezebox and ordered one yesterday. Was really surprised at how much effort it took to simply GET music that I could play. Still very excited about the possibilities but it seems Slim Devices has a great opportunity here to increase its market share by leaps and bounds. To do that I would suggest an all in one solution to the Squeeze Box/Slim Server set up that would appeal to the less computer savvy but still maintain the audio quality we all seek. As a possibility - what if when one purchased A Squeeze Box it contained ALL the software, drivers, dlls, rippers etc. that would allow one to simply put a CD into their computer and through a simple GUI choose all the options (wav, flac, mp3, cd database, whatever) and simply rip it to their hard drives? What if the market that Slim Devices has so far addressed is comprised of rather savvy computer guys and gals and that a simpler all in one solution might allow others to enjoy the SB without the drama and time investment now required just to get music that SB can play? This suggestion comes from my real world experience last night and is not meant to disparage the good folks at Slim Devices for creating such a great product but I was frankly suprised at what the product actually does and doesn't do. And to many, like myself, who may not have an audio collection already ripped to their hard drives there is quite a steep learning curve and quite a few hours just to get music, let alone get it playing properly. I would love to see a simple GUI that walked one through the ripping process, set-up options and playlist creation all tied into a great Squeezebox/Slim Server package. What about you? Larry -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25168 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slim Devices Misses The Boat
Mark Lanctot Wrote: > > The Squeezebox is so flexible it actually allows you to choose, which > is quite a radical idea in these days of iTunes/iPod, > manufacturer-specific DRM and the like. Choose your ripper, choose > your OS, choose your server, choose your hard drive size. It seems this point may be the most relevant. What I am suggesting would limit those options certainly, but I wonder if it would be possible to include an all in one solution AND keep those choices available? -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25168 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slim Devices Misses The Boat
Michaelwagner Wrote: > The SB is still more of a geekbox than one might like. But how to > streamline it without losing it's inherent flexibility has been a > perennial question. Without, so far, a single, clear, straightforward > answer. I'm thinkin' this is the inherent problem in desiging any device as the SB and that Slim Devices has chosen the open source route. The flexibility is indeed amazing as you all have pointed out just a bit geeky in my opinion. -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25168 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slim Devices Misses The Boat
ajmitchell Wrote: > I agree that the Olive (Hifidelio in Europe) is a possible > out-of-the-box solution that is being asked for here. This approach > will suit some not otherssee > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21135&highlight=olive > for discussion. See also > http://playlistmag.com/reviews/2006/02/musica/index.php > > I owned the olive for 6months and sold it because I could not get it to > integrate with Slimserver, or allow free access to stored files. (At > least one user on here has acheived this). Personally I would favour a > more robust CD-set supplied with new Sb3's as the solution for most > audio-quality conscious listeners. That first link seems to express my thoughts as well as far as to why one would choose Slim Devices over the other options. There really is nothing like it on the market and one post mentioned THIS robust and helpful community and that is another major reason for choosing Slim Devices. Please don't misunderstand my suggestions, they are meant only as such, from a real world user with a fresh real world experience. I'm not bothered by the fact I had rip my cd's, in fact I was looking forward to it. I was just surprised at the effort it took to get started. Great feedback by the way. -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25168 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slim Devices Misses The Boat
blkwrx Wrote: > First off EAC may be the most complicated Ripping software to set up, > Although its also probably the best. Regardless there are a lot less > complicated rippers like the one mentioned above (dbpoweramp). I LOVE the idea of having the option of using something as complex as EAC or as simple as dbpoweramp. My suggestion might include a software option in Squeezebox that would be simple with another option to choose a more complex variant if wanted/needed. Say a less sophisticated user than yourself loaded or downloaded Slimserver and there was a dialog box or question - Are you new to hard drive music streaming? [Yes] [No] Would you like to use Slim devices software to create your music files? [Yes] [No] Or do you prefer using different software. This might allow beginners to get up and runnig quickly, enhancng their experience with the Squeeze Box and allowing time to explore other more complicated methods if desired. > I don't see why Slim Devices would want to put the R&D into adding a > ripper to the software when the majority of there customers would > rather use an external ripper. I personally would rather have that R&D > going into upgrading the current software's functionality. I think that's the point I'm making. They already have a market based on sophisticated users like yourself. I'm suggesting if it could be made simpler they may broaden their appeal. It might compromise their R&D budget but it might also increase their R&D budget. > I guess they could bundle another companies ripper with the device but > unless it rips on par with EAC or even dbpoweramp I would say they are > just wasting money. If they could succeed at increasing their market buy bundling or creating simple to use software it would not be a 'waste' of money it would be an 'investment' of money. Would it return that investment? That's the question left to the managers of Slim Devices. -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25168 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slim Devices Misses The Boat
dangerous_dom Wrote: > I agree that giving out software is probably pointless, given the nature > of this product anyway. The point would not be to give away software. The point would be to 'invest' in software that makes the product easier to use, thereby increasing the number of people who use it, thereby increasing revenues and profits and exanding the features and options. The nature of the product does not, IMO, preclude making it easier to use. -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25168 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slim Devices Misses The Boat
brucegrr Wrote: > Having said that.I have had friends into my home that LOVE > the Squeezebox.yet most of them are (how can I say it kindly) > technologically challenged. I couldn't imagine them taking a Squeezebox > out of the box and setting it up, let alone setting up ripping sofware. I guess the question is will those technologically challenged people EVER become customers of Slim Devices? If not then it doesn't matter how simple it gets. If 'some' might become customers then SD needs to decide how many and if that market is worth pursuing. > I think the CEO and staff at Slim Devices work real hard to make the > Squeezebox a superior piece of technology. They take seriuosly end-user > problems (even when the problem is not slim devices related) I have > always found tech support to be accomodating and helpful. > > Bruce I'll bet you won't find an argument to your last point. -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25168 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slim Devices Misses The Boat
radish Wrote: > I agree that the out of the box experience could be a little easier for > the non technical, though given the way SB is advertised and targetted > I'm not sure this is really impacting sales - which is what counts > after all. That's a good point IMO. It's not like you can go to Best Buy and find the product. It requires a certain level of computer expertice just to find that SB even exists, which narrows and targets the market quite well. Should it be targeted differently? Another management question. > However, there are issues with distributing other people's software. For > example EAC, although free of charge, requires special permission to > distribute on CD. This kind of thing (plus keeping up to date with > version changes) can become a real headache to manage, plus you > inevitably end up shipping people old versions of things. I know I > -never- use the CDs that come with gadgets - I look to see what's on > them and go download the new versions. Yeah agree, couldn't imagine the complexities of including others' software, but creating a simple to use version in house might not be too daunting. -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25168 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slim Devices Misses The Boat
Wanted to be sure and post a follow up to my original post. Most of my (long) story can be read at the link below but bottom line is I received my Squeeze Box yesterday 07/06/2006 and after an exhaustive crash course in CD ripping, EAC mystery codes, Foobar that was FUBAR to me, and play list creation, my Squeeze Box was up and running in about 3 minutes max. All my files show, perfectly tagged, and the promise of the Squeeze Box FAR outlived my expectations. Sure it could have been easier and if I already had an MP3 collection and was satisfied with that sound quality it would have literally only taken the 3 minute set-up to be playing music. So I am loving the Squeeze Box. It's easy to use, looks great and the Squeeze Box DAC that I have to use because of no DAC in my receiver creates great sound to my ears. Again, FAR exceeded my expectations. Thanks so much for all the help. Larry http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25299 -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25168 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] freedb closing down?
http://freedb.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=292 -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25317 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: What (simple) remote does work well with the squeezebox?
davidcotton Wrote: > Had a look at the harmony range of remotes? I use mine to control my > squeezebox, sky+box and dvd player! David which Harmony do you use? I read some really bad reviews of their latest. Does offer the same functionality as the SD remote? And if you don't mind, what is sky+box? Larry -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25361 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: What (simple) remote does work well with the squeezebox?
Just picked up an RM-VL600 from Circuit City for $24.99, so far not so good. It will turn ON my Harmon Kardon receiver OR turn it off using spearate function keys but will not do both from the power button and single function key. Probably just a strange setup HK decided was the best for their remote but for the Sony it doesn't look like it will work. Also when I play the SqueezeBox from the RM-VL600 it's like it is playing two songs at once. Could be user error as I just started palying with it but pretty frustrating. I'll give a heads up if anything changes. Larry -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25361 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: What (simple) remote does work well with the squeezebox?
andy_c Wrote: > When recording the keystroke from the original remote, I had problems if > I pressed and held its key too long. For example, with the volume on my > preamp I was getting a double increment with a single volume control > press of the Sony remote. I found that when recording, if I just > pressed the key of the original remote briefly it fixed that problem. > Once the keystroke is stored, if you want to change it you have to go > through the keystroke erase procedure first. > > Sounds like you may have pressed and held the play key, generating > multiple codes, and the Sony may have recorded that. So when playing > it back, it's as if you had pressed the play button multiple times. > It's just a guess, but it sounds similar to what happened to me. > > I have my preamp assigned to the "Amp" device key, and the SB to the > "tape" key. That way, the volume control controls the volume of the > preamp regardless of whether the SB or preamp is the current device. Yeah Andy, I'm pretty sure it's user error as far as the SB goes. I'll try again tonight. And the Harmon Kardon remote actually has one button to power on and one button to power off. Makes it so I have to assign say the 'VCR' button to power off and the 'AMP' button to power on. I may set up two series of commands down on the sytem control A B C D buttons one to turn it on and one to turn it off. For the TV and DVR it works as advertised. Thanks for the heads up. Larry -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25361 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: What (simple) remote does work well with the squeezebox?
andy_c Wrote: > When recording the keystroke from the original remote, I had problems if > I pressed and held its key too long. For example, with the volume on my > preamp I was getting a double increment with a single volume control > press of the Sony remote. I found that when recording, if I just > pressed the key of the original remote briefly it fixed that problem. > Once the keystroke is stored, if you want to change it you have to go > through the keystroke erase procedure first. > > Sounds like you may have pressed and held the play key, generating > multiple codes, and the Sony may have recorded that. So when playing > it back, it's as if you had pressed the play button multiple times. > It's just a guess, but it sounds similar to what happened to me. I think you nailed the problem. Tried it again and it works great. I prefer working the volume from the SB though and it seems to be a bit tempermental. I think a little mote homework should fix that as well. Thanks for the help. Larry -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25361 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: What (simple) remote does work well with the squeezebox?
metropole Wrote: > Looks like the Sony RM-VL600 is the simplest so far. I wish it would > have even less buttons... > > Has anyone used the One-For-All products? > http://www.ofausa.com/remote.php?type=URC%203300 > http://www.ofausa.com/remote.php?type=URC3110 > > I know, really not a beautiful design. But from a button perspective? I'm not sure it's that simple, but just like The Squeeze Box, worth the effort. Got it pretty much set up now and it's one touch for the TV/DVR and another for the receiver/Squeeze Box. I've got a pretty simple set-up but it seems like it will handle some pretty complex systems. Certainly a value. Now I need to figure out how to control my new separate amp an ATI 1502 with no remote triggers. Should be interesting. -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25361 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox is great- for bitheads
All I can say is WOW. Just got back to my computer and discovered this thread. I had no idea the Squeeze Box folks could be so sensitive to a rather simple request and observation about a product the OP obviously has a lot of respect for. I happen to agree with his sentiments as one of my first posts tried to explain, perhaps poorly, what I thought was presented as, and would be received as, a suggestion to a great company and a great product. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25168 I'm just curious as to what happened here. I didn't perceive any of the attacks or mean spirited accusations from the OP. Is it just because I agree with him? Or that I don't have anything personally at stake? Do suggestions to improve the product have to be presented in a form that is acceptable to the readers and members from now on? What is that form? I just read the OP again and simply do not find anything offensive, and perhaps that's because I'm such a new user, but it might also be that there simply isn't anything offensive there to begin with. So I have suggestion, when someone makes a suggestion and there is word or two, or a phrase that may not be absolutely perfect, look to the essence of what is being presented. I read a suggestion to make the product easier to use for non-techies. Hey great suggestion. It's a little more complicated than that as I found out but shutting down those ideas will only hurt SD in the long. And isn't making The Squeeze Box the best product it can be the reason we are all here to begin with? Best to all Larry -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25462 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NAS Storage for dummys
Since the title alluded to dummies - here goes: Will SlimServer run off one of these DiskStation/LinkStation/Qnap type NAS fellas while your main computer is turned off? Is that the whole idea? Or is it just way to increase storage? Larry -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25368 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: How to make a product suggestion
What I meant by the Squeeze Box folks was everyone on the forums and mailing lists and developers and etc. I guess this illustrates my point. These are forums and you cannot discern intent from a forum post. And sometimes they will be misinterpretted, it's the nature of the beast. No disrespect intended to anyone invloved with Slim Devices, in fact just the opposite, which is what I find so confusing. And hey I have no dog in this hunt. I just had higher, more tolerant expectations from the forum members/community which is something I have, as of now, adjusted. I just won't be surprised when posters are attacked when their suggestion are not received in the spirit they are given because of some unknowable connection to this great piece of hard/software. Gotta go listen to my new AT 1502 amplifier and a few newly ripped CD's. Best to all Larry -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25472 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NAS Storage for dummys
aubuti Wrote: > Short answer: yes, provided you have slimserver installed and running on > the NAS. It helps to remember that a NAS is really a small computer with > very limited functions. It has a CPU, RAM, and an OS, usually just > enough to join the network and run some server software, most notably > Samba. Thanks very much for the help Larry -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25368 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Is This A Realistic NAS Option?
After reading all the trials and tribulations from some of the NAS owners and knowing my technical skills won't extend to learning PERL or some other such computer stuff, does it make any sense to dedicate a litlte box as linked below to serve the same purpose? I really am ignorant when it comes to the details of the Squeeze Box so I won't pretend to know the answer, but could a dedicated little box with a big ole hard drive act as a file server as well? Or would it take a lot more than the simple exterior to get some things up and running well and efficiently? Seems like you could hide it in a closet somewhere and let it sleep till needed or some other plan. Would it work? Or is NAS the best solution for streaming from a source other than your main PC? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16856101483 -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25499 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox is great- for bitheads
Zten Wrote: > If folks were talking face to face or even just talking on the phone, > this all would have been a non-event. Maybe the simple "smiley face" > would have prevented the misunderstanding, maybe not. Interesting how > no one from Slim chimed in.:o) Yeah - Bravo - Zten. It's so easy to read into a post that which was not intended. So why not read into each post the best of intentions? Well, why not? -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25462 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Is This A Realistic NAS Option?
Thanks for the reply Pat, When you suggest SlimCD do you suggest that instead of Windows as an OS, or instead of the added expense of an OS? Both? I know I can learn anything but I just don't feel like learing Linux, but again to your point, the cost increases even with a bare bones system. Thanks again Larry -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25499 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Wireless or Ethernet Connection?
My Squeeze Box will not find the network anymore through the current wireless set-up and I was wondering if anyone has had a similar problem that was remedied by hard wiring the SB with an ethernet connection? http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25607 -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25644 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wireless or Ethernet Connection?
vdorta Wrote: > I suppose you tried resetting the SB. I haven't had any problems with my > wireless and I would rather have the audio as separated as possible from > the computer's noisy environment. I'm not sure you read my original link posted above but I have tried a LOT of re-setting and reconfiguring to no avail. It's either try wired ethernet or send the unit back as it has simply stopped working after 2 weeks of perfect operation. -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25644 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wireless won't connect ethernet works
I'm having the same problem but mine was working perfectly for a couple of weeks with the wireless, then it just quit. If I find a solution I'll certainly post it. Larry http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25607 -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25648 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wireless won't connect ethernet works
brooky Wrote: > Still no luck for me. Absolutely lost. Hope it's not broken.. Mine still broken too. Will try to hard wire this weekend. If that doesn't work I'll have to return the 'potentially' greatest music gadget ever. -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25648 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wireless won't connect ethernet works
The fact that your laptop works fine points IMHO to something amiss with the Squeeze Box itself. What that, exactly, is is impossible to guess. The fact that there are multiple threads in the forum about wireless connections that just don't work makes me beleive there is something either inherently wrong with the hardware or it is just the same old wireless illusion that we (I) always fall for. That illusion is that it will actually work. A couple of years ago I tried a wireless setup in my office and the network was continually dropping off and it was impossible to get any work done. In that case it was critical the netwok function properly so I hard wired the whole office. Beleive me when I say that is the short version of that nightmare. I swore I would never do wireless ANYTHING again. My wireless (which I thought I would at least try since a couple of years had gone by since my last misadventure) Squeeze Box worked perfectly out of box, which now that I think about it, was probably too good to be true. I know there are many and perhaps most wireless users without any problems but when they occur it is such a nightmare to try and resolve. So I'll try to hard wire this weekend and really feel your pain if that's not an option. And anyone who hasn't had these problems with your SB knock on wood,. Not because it's the end of the world or really that big a deal it's just that the Squeeze Box is SO DAM COOL I can't imagine living without it. -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25648 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wireless won't connect ethernet works
brooky Wrote: > For me the SB can see the network it just won't connect. The laptop is > never in (I rarely use it). > > No ecryption on the wirless network, no access list and nothing else I > can think of getting in the way. > > I'm completely befuddled. Not to hijack brooky, but my symptoms seem to be the same. My SB will find the 'linksys' network and get all the way to assigning an IP then just shut down. It want to find an automatic IP DCHP or something like that then wants to assign one manually, then shuts down. -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25648 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wireless won't connect ethernet works
brooky Wrote: > Funny mine used to do that but now I just get a 30 second attempt to > connect to my wireless network "devellion". > > Try doing a factory reset on the SB. > > Turn it off and then turn it on holding down the add button. Yeah tried that, and a router firmware upgrade, and a Slim Server upgrade, and unplugging the cordless phone, and I guess the more I read the more it looks like I have the 30 second thing goin on as well. -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25648 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Poll: CD Ripping
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25661 Question: Would you be interested in an easy to use CD-Ripper - Yes - No - Not for me, but for others Andrew I would have LOVED such a solution before I've taken the effort to set up EAC. When I first got my SB and knew very little about ripping it would have a been really handy tool. Seems it would still be a great tool for those less inclined to hassle with EAC, foobar etc. Larry -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25661 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] So I'm Gonna Hard Wire For Ethernet and....
As the thread title suggests I make up 50 ft. of CAT 5 cable so I can snake it through the house and get my beloved Squeeze Box back on track with a hard wired ethernet connection. The wireless connection has been dead for 4 or 5 days and I have been fratically trying every thing to get it back on line. So I go to the router and pick a free port, run the CAT 5 cable into the lving room, look up and there it is - the SB is running strong - wirelessly of course. So I turn it on and it runs and plays every thing perfectly - WIRELESSLY. With the CAT 5 cable sitting on the floor. What is up with that? -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25698 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: So I'm Gonna Hard Wire For Ethernet and....
Ain't it the truth. I'm crackin up snarly. I wonder if the mere threat of going with the hard wire scared the SB straight. I know as long as that wire is in the house that sucker is gonna work perfectly but if I throw it away or take to the office that wireless is gonna shut down. I think I'll just keep that 50 footer tucked behind the couch and every couple days I'll wave it menacingly at the SB and scowl. That should keep it hooked up till it can figure another way to get under my skin and have another laugh. Best Larry -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25698 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: So I'm Gonna Hard Wire For Ethernet and....
Yeah the SB gave up over night and the wireless problem/interference has returned this morning. The CAT 5 has fixed the problem as is expected. Slim Devices is sending me a new unit just to eliminate that as a factor. I'll post and let the board know what I discover, if anything, with the new unit. -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25698 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Hmmm....2nd thoughts on buying SB3
I am one of those bad news posters and had wireless problems (Linksys WRT54GS) that couldn't be resolved, even though the signal is great and everything else should point to perfect operation. I ended up hard wiring my SB simply because I cannot live without the convenience and sound quality. Could have saved $50.00 knowing what I know now but the wireless solution, if it works in your situation and even if it doesn't and hard wiring is an option, is very much worth the effort. -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25733 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Hmmm....2nd thoughts on buying SB3
bossanova808 Wrote: > I'm an Sb2 owner, I've used it both wired an unwired. Basically, I'd > throw out any router if it was causing problems wit my SB - it's that > good. That's a really good point. If I had no hard wired option I would [EMAIL PROTECTED] and moan and accuse Slim Devices of many evil things but, in the end, I'd switch routers, get more boosters and antennas, and simply find a way to get the Squeeze Box to work - "it's that good." -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25733 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??
I do not consider myself an audiophile, nor would anyone else, but I REALLY like the decision. To my mind it heralds a completely new paradigm in digital music presentation as did the SB1/2/3. I think there is no stopping the possibilities and hope that Slim Devices sucseed in their endeavor. The price point is too high for my and any more music fidelity or tranparency (a term of which I know nothing about) would be wasted on my untrained ears. But for the audiophiles this tansporter could be a boon if it hits the mark or a complete bust, if it does not. If it only sounds 'really good' then those who would not pay the asking price will never get to see if it fits their tastes and systems. If it sounds 'audiophile excellent' then IMHO the game changes over night. Then even those of us who don't think they will ever need such a device now have a 'go to' device from a trusted company if we ever want to pretend we're audiophiles. Most of all I appreciate the cajones it takes to introduce such a product. Best of luck Slim Devices I will root for the transporter to be a smashing success. -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.5 looking good
stinkingpig Wrote: > YAML::Syck -- this time, I just ran the Bin/build-perl-modules.pl and > renamed my /etc/slimserver.conf. > I KNOW I shouldn't make light of the technical type posts but man that's a fontfull!:) -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26196 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Do's and Don'ts Running SB Direct to Amp?
I'm no audiophile but I love experimenting with what I've got and trying different things. I currently have a Harmon Kardon 3820 2 channel receiver that I am using as a pre-amp for an ATI 1502 stereo amplifier. So I am running the audio outs from the SB3 (with Elpac power supply) into the HK CD inputs and then from the HK pre-outs into the ATI's RCA inputs. I would like to experiment with running the SB3 direct into the ATI but am a bit freaked out about the unknowns. I've read of passive attenuators that can be used when bypassing a pre-amp but don't know much more than that. Is it dangerous for my speakers? The SB3? Can I just hook up the audio outs from the SB3 to the amp and adjust volume from the SB3, or is that asking for trouble? Thanks in advance Larry -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26415 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Do's and Don'ts Running SB Direct to Amp?
Thanks Sleepy, I'll give it a try and post whatever results I may be able to perceive. -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26415 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Do's and Don'ts Running SB Direct to Amp?
Just gave it a try and I think there is a reason I am not posting in the audiophile forum. I THINK I could discern a difference in the sound. Seemed more focused and the base seemed to be a bit punchier even without the subbie run from the receiver. I have a pair of Axiom M22's which are light on bass to say the least but they seemed to reproduce base better than the signal going through the HK 3280. Pretty hard to truly A/B and there was no problem with the levels going into the AT 1502. 40 was about max listening level and 22 - 25 comfortable. Not a very technical or objective review and am not convinced I want live with the single source (SB3) going to the amp (only eliminates the TV for now as I dobn't run an HT) but for now I'll listen as is for a while. Thanks for the help. Larry -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26415 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Is 6.5 ready for non techies?
I went to the 6.5 download page http://www.slimdevices.com/su_downloads.html and saw nothing that mentions removing 6.3 completely before loading 6.5, which to me, speaks volumes in answer to the OP's question. The web site says nothing about removing 6.3, which, if it does, it is hidden pretty well from this non-techie and yet all the techies (and I mean that in the most affectionate manner) insist 6.3 must be removed before loading 6.5. I just loaded 6.5 over the top of 6.3 because I'm a non-techie and it seems to be working fine. So is it ready for us non-techies? I say yes - so far. -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27886 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Slim Server Loaded Before It Will Play?
Here's something I don't remember about 6.3. I seem to have to load slim server 6.5 before it will play music. Did 6.3 always behave this way? I can shut down slim server and it will continue to play but the first time I crank up the computer I have to start slim server to play music - is this normal? -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27940 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slim Server Loaded Before It Will Play?
Thank you11 -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27940 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slim Server Loaded Before It Will Play?
ceejay;140151 Wrote: > ... only if you're listening to internet radio, of course! Just remember > that the SB is a very dumb device and needs to be connected to a > slimserver (could be squeezenetwork) to do anything. But once connected > to an internet radio station it will continue. > > Ceejay Except last night when I closed the Slim Server window it kept playing my music files, not internet radio. -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27940 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Just heard the news so am of course quite late to the discussion. Read most of the posts and can see many different futures ahead for SD and Logitech but to my mind the most likely is that Logitech will create a good or perhaps very good music device - with a much larger market. Slim Devices had the chance to create a GREAT music device - with a much smaller market. As much as the Logitech folks might like to think of themselves as a company they are not, they will, in the end, be driven by a passion for the bottom line and not a passion for musical excellence. A company their size has no choice. During this transition we will read all the perfectly crafted messages stating how involved Logitech will remain in the current community, and how dedicated they are to the SqueezeBox. This is not a knock on Logitech as they are obligated so say such things in our modern corporate culture. I only hope they can come to this table and be honest about their corporate responsibities, which must come first as the nature of reality in the corporate world, and not pretend to be able to attend to the existing audio community established here, let alone be willing. The two directions are simply at cross purposes and cannot exist in a company of that size. I would also assume that this forum will change radically as well. Again, out of necessity. Nightly builds will disappear, as they must. A more consumer friendly product (or many) will surface very shortly and the transporter seems VERY out of place in a world of consumer driven products, can't see how it can survive. I won't bid a farewell as of yet but it will come soon enough, and to that end i would like to thank all of the people here who have made the SB such a great device and most of all to the community that has a added lot to my knowledge in a kind and courteous way. Best to all, Larry Hawes -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
CardinalFang;148196 Wrote: > I wouldn't buy a Logitech Transporter because they are not renowned for > high-end audio engineering or for understanding the needs of the HiFi > audience. Right now, that's dumb, in 2-3 years, it may well be smart. > We shall see. I don't think you'll have to worry about buying a Logitech transporter because in my opinion they simply won't sell one. Not because they are an evil large corporation that hates excellent audio, but because there is not a large enough market for a company the size of Logitech to pursue. All of the other changes that Logitech will bring to the table will be born of the needs of their company. Their choices will be very limited as product cycles and markets will dictate product. This is not to say that Logitech is WalMart but they will make decisions based on similer criteria - they have to because their business model will demand it! And that criteria will probably have very little to do with fine audio reproduction and very little to do with what made the SqueezeBox excellent and the Transporter great. It has nothing to do with Logitech's business ethics and everything to do with the reality of a large business. Large buinesses simply do not pursue small markets and the transporter represent a VERY small market. That is why I would not expect it to survive for very long. -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] best stand-alone seakers to connect a SB3 to?
Don't forget the Axioms. A specialized hi fi computer speaker. http://www.axiomaudio.com/audiobytecomputerspeakers.html -- LHawes LHawes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6244 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46115 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
