[slim] Problem with installing Squeezecenter - should be easy...??
Hi Can you help with this situation? History: 1. Have had Squeezebox with SlimServer installed and running under Windows XP, connected via wireless network to a Server box. That has worked fine - apart from the odd hiccup for 6 months. 2. I decided to install the 'latest and greatest' version - Squeezecenter (SC) - and this is where it started to go wrong Symptoms 1. SC does not recognise my Squeezebox.see the following screen SCREEN1.DOC 2. If I then change URL to the following: http://server:9000/ then I get the old Slim Server interface 3. And SlimServer works fine for a while (I can do most things ok) - until I get this screen - SCREEN2.DOC and clicking on OK gives 'Page not found' for the SlimServer player. I can Refresh and it comes back - for a while..then just repeats that problem. --- So - clearly SlimServer (old version) can find the Server - and the music ok. The questions are: 1. Why doesn't Squeezecenter find the Squeezebox? 2. Why does SlimServer reappear? 3. What do I need to do to get this working ok (either the old version of SlimServer or the new Squeezecenter...)? Things I have done: I have installed the latest firmware to the Squeezebox - by holding down the Brightness button. I have rebooted the Squeezebox several times - been through the Set up several times. Thanks, David +---+ |Filename: Screen2.doc | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5527| +---+ -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50276 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Problem with installing Squeezecenter - should be easy...??
I have 1 headless server - and 1 laptop. -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50276 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
andynormancx;319317 Wrote: You guys appear to be mixing up the two different tests, wifi signal strength one and the network test one (easy to do because the graphs look the same). cronshd posted the details of his wifi signal strength test showing him managing 40-50% on it. Phil then responded saying you NEED to get 100% at 1500 not 40-50%. It is true that he needs to get 100% at 1500, but not on the wifi strength test. He needs to achieve the 100% on the network test screen. It is perfectly possible to get that while only achieving 40-50% on the wifi test and you are never likely to see 100% on the wifi strength test screen. It is obviously best to try and get the highest possible response on the wifi test though. N.B. I'm not trying to say that the advice Phil gave to try and fix the problem was wrong, that was spot on, just pointing out that the two of you were looking at two different tests... In the end, I was looking at both..(if you follow the threads I think you will see that)it was a rapid learning experience me and thanks to everyone (especially Phil) who helped me out. SS 6.5 produced a summary report which I looked at this morning - it said: Performance Summary : David Please queue up several tracks to play on this player and start them playing. Then press the Reset link below to clear the statistics and update this display. Reset Summary Control Connection : OK Streaming Connection : OK Signal Strength: OK Buffer Fullness: Low Server Response Time : OK Warnings The playback buffer for this player is occasionally falling lower than ideal. This is a Squeezebox2/3 and so the buffer fullness is expected to drop at the end of each track. You may see this warning if you are playing lots of short tracks. If you are hearing audio dropouts, please check your network signal strength - So I take from that (and of course, my listening experience) it is fine! (Next thread will be about Squeezecenter install.I just need to pause and try a few things out first so as (hopefully) not to waste people's time). -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
If I play back any FLAC track it starts off ok for about 5 seconds, then becomes more and more distorted - just breaks up totally. The FLAC files were fine before - for the last 6 months (and the CDs were professionally 'FLACed'). My MP3s are all fine. I use as a Tranquil Server, Windows Home Server. Has anyone encountered this kind of thing before? There is no other network activity - apart from playing the music. Is there anything I can do to check this out? Thanks. -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Yes - it breaks up - stutters and comes to a halt. And now it is starting to happen on MP3s - the behaviour is a little different.it goes distorted/stuttering then starts rebuffering. So it is not just for FLACs now. Yes it is wireless - and has been working perfectly for 6 months or so. There has been no recent change to the infrastructure in the house. I have rebooted modem/wireless router. Is there anything I can test - to see what might be the cause? I just did a scan for wireless networks - and found my Linksys (Encrypted) with 100% strength. I also found another duplicate Linksys - which is Open ie not encrypted. Not sure what has happened here.Help!!! COuld this be the cause? -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Hi I ran NetStumbler (see attached screen dump) - and it shows 2 Linksys (my SSID) entries. I changed (via the Linksys 192.168.1.1) the channel to channel 12. I'm not sure why there are 2 entries as there is only one modem/router. I also switched off the cordless phone in the house. None of this makes a difference - and it still stutters/breaks then grinds to a halt. I get 100% wireless strength on the laptop close to the Squeezebox. I can't run Squeezecenter diagnostic because if I install and run Squeezecenter, I get the message -Your player was not found. If you own a Squeezebox or Transporter: Make sure that your player is plugged in and its networking settings are correct. Click the Refresh button once your player is connected. If you do not own a Squeezebox - This is by default using the url http://192.168.1.101:9000 If I replace the 192.168.1.101 with 'Server' (the name of my Server) then SlimServer starts running. +---+ |Filename: cronshd linksys.doc | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5426| +---+ -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
amcluesent;319166 Wrote: I'm not sure why there are 2 entries as there is only one modem/router The MAC addresses are different, that's another linksys with a default SSID I'd try moving to channels 3 or 9 and see what the reception is like. Sodo you mean there is another linksys router in da house? That is not possible - there is just one modem, one router, one server. How can I delete that 'rogue' entry? Anyway as per attached, I went into the linksys url and changed the channel to 3 (although it shows up on NetStumbler as 3*, 12). I then rebooted again the Squeezebox. It made no difference. I am wondering if it is some setting which is about 'buffering' in some way - as it also is stuttering on Radio. It never used to do any of this. I am also wondering if it is connected with the failed attempts to properly install/connect Squeezecentre - as it was fine with SlimServer. (Although I have switched off my laptops to test this - and just have a 'pure' Server - to - Squeezebox configuration). Any other ideas of things to try? -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
This is the latest NetStumbler. attached... +---+ |Filename: cronshd linksys v2.doc | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5428| +---+ -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
I ran SlimServer and went to the Debugging section - and switched some of the flags on (not sure exactly what each flag is - as it is not explained). Anyway, the resulting log is attached. You can see if you go to 'Beck' - maybe where the problems start. It does not mean so mcuh to me - but I can see 00:04:20:12:25:cb: Decoder underrun while this mode: playout-play for example.as well as other stuff. Does this help? +---+ |Filename: cronshd - debug log 2.doc| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5429| +---+ -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Hi - ok - yes I think it must be a neighbours device (from a long distance). I switched mine off and could see on NetStumbler there was still a Linksys - and if I did Fn+F5 - to scan for wireless networks it came up. Interestingly, it came up at about 5% strength - and yet now when I switch my router back on the neightbour Linksys is about 90%. Anyway, my next question (and btw - thanks so much guys for your patience and time on this) - is this. When I saw there were duplicate names a few hours ago (before your 'neighbour suggestion' - I changed router name and got myself into a bit of mess and so I changed it back. So I want to know how to changed the SSID in easy steps. What happened for me to get in a mess? Ok - the set up here is 1 modem, 1 linksys wireless router, I Tranquil server and 2 laptops running Windows XP. 1. I went to the Linksys url and changed the SSID to Linksysnew 2. Then I discovered of course, that I lost the connection on Laptop1. 3. On Laptop1 if I go to Windows-Control Panel-Network Connections - there aren;t any. (I had anticipated I would just go there and make a change somewhere there). 4. So I went to Laptop2 and managed to connect and change the SSID back to linksys ...So I appreciate this might be a bit outside of your domain - but if you could help on this it would be great. Thanks again. -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Ok - quick update. I changed my SSID - and set up Squeezebox with the new id etc - and reset the network on the PC. So far..it seems to be working!! :-) I've listened to 2 tracks straight through and no stuttering. I hope it continues! Thank you very much. I do appreciate your replies. Meanwhile - there is just the slight problem of getting SqueezeCenter up and running - should I create a new thread for that? -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Ouch - just as I posted - I got a short stutter - although transient it continued - but it unnerved me a bit. Is there some way I can do proper test? Apart from listening to stuff non-stop. I want to check the 'fidelity' of the sound. -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Hi Phil No - I have never run the test before. Is it possible you can give me step by step instructions? The set up has been perfect for the lat 6 monthsno problems whatsoever... Thanks Oh - and the Server is connected by a cable into the back of the Wireless Router. -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Just before we get into that, I think that the 'ouch' just got a stutter was because Laptop2 was still associated with 'Linksys'. I went to check out L2 - and music was still playing - then when I started messing with the network settings (to get it on to the new SSID) I could hear the music stutter even more.then when I Shut Down L2 and skipped to the next track - it has...so farbeen perfect. Anyway the server software is also doing my head in a bit. I was fine with SlimServer - then I downloaded Squeezecenter - and could not get it connected to my Squeezebox.(I haven;t tried in the last hour since SSID change). So I have the remnants of SlimServer: SlimServer Version: 6.5.4 - 12568 - Windows Server 2003 - EN - cp1252 I can't see a Server Network Health plug in. Here is the screen I am looking at (attached)... +---+ |Filename: cronshd screen.doc | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5430| +---+ -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Ok - I found it... it is a click on Server and Network health. I ran the highest rate at 5000kbps. The result is attached. I have had more stutters since (even though L2 is shut down). See attached. +---+ |Filename: cronshd network test 1.doc | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5431| +---+ -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
And now much lower - more like 59-60it seemed as if it was stuttering but obviously I couldnt hear anything... -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Ok - I can see that I can collect performance stats for the Player and Server. Should I send these to you after running the test for sometime? -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Hi ok At 1500, this is the Signal Strenght result so far. I have a slight confession.I noticed that I had put a large solid box (of vinyl) in front of the wireless router - and I guess this may also have had an impact. At least, the average seems to be increasing - as we speak it is now 43.% and going up. Sorry if that has also been a contributing factor (I am starting to convert my vinyl). ==j Signal Strength This graph shows the strength of the wireless signal received by your player. Higher signal strength is better. The player reports signal strength while it is playing. 10 :0 : 0% 20 :1 : 1% 30 :1 : 1% 40 : 35 : 32% ### 50 : 66 : 59% # 60 :8 : 7% ### 70 :0 : 0% 80 :0 : 0% 90 :0 : 0% 100 :0 : 0% =100 :0 : 0% max : 53.00 min : 19.00 avg : 42.819820 -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Ok - I moved the router a bit higher (that's all I can do right now). It is starting to hit 60%. What I don;t understand is that my laptop which is about 1m away from the Squeezebox gets a 100% signal. Why would that be? -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Ok - I understand on the laptop getting 100% ok. Do I need some signal boosting equipment? Yes - I enabled Performance Monitoring - that gave the stats I sent. The buffer though did not produce any numbers - it was always zero. ...is that another issue? At the moment - listening to a FLAC album - it seems just fine btw. Obviously I would like to get it to 100% if that is the appropriate standard. -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
...and currently, the average is nearly 60%.. -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Hi Phil. Ok - I changed channel - it is now consistently in the 70's. Thanks very much for your help on this. -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
