Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community
philippe_44 wrote: > Sonos is totally secretive about their streaming protocol, so this > cannot be done . . That was my thought also, but I didn't know if it was actual fact, now I know, thanks. With Sonos it is usually easier to "Assume" it can't be done because of closed private software and absolutely no sharing. *iPhone* Media Room: ModWright Platinum Signature Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Transporter, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Office: Touch with Vandersteen VSM-1s Kitchen: Touch in-wall mount w/ Thiel Powerpoint 1.2s Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Around the House: SliMP3, SB1, SB2, SB3 Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community
iPhone wrote: > No. Sonos is mainly speakers. They have a display-less standalone box > that acts like a Squeezebox by letting you connect this Sonos box to a > pre-amp or receiver to feed content to your home stereo system. > Squeezeboxes are feed over the local network by a Server or Internet > connection via MySB.com. > > As far as I know, the only thing would be some type of Bridge that would > take a Sonos stream and enable it to be feed to an LMS Server if that is > even possible. Sonos is totally secretive about their streaming protocol, so this cannot be done LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBoxOne, XBMC, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi B3, B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+, Odroid-C1, Odroid-C2, Cubie2, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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raven22 wrote: > Not that is is bad but I settled with players from MUSAIC. I hope they provide you as much joy as Squeezebox did. A friend of mine had a very bad experience with Simple Audio. He bought a Roomplayer for about 800 Euro (new) only to find out that the company went bankrupt a little while later. The Roomplayer is now sitting on my desk awaiting a "conversion" to a Squeezebox by means of an RPI. The streamer market is a tough one and difficult to make a decent living off; certainly if that is the only product the company carries. 'Cambridge Audio 851D-S' (https://www.cambridgeaudio.com/products/851/851d) -> 'Focal MP1200' (http://www.mp1200.co.nf/) -> 'Focal Electra 1028 Be' (http://www.focal.com/en/electra-1000-be-2/209-electra-1028-be-3544053695099.html) 1 x SB Boom, 1 x SB Radio, 1 x SB Touch and 2 x RPI 2B 1 x SB3 and 1 x SB Touch in storage ReadyNAS NVX running LMS 7.9.0. iPeng on iPhone, SqueezePad & iPeng on iPad. http://www.last.fm/user/phibon Pascal Hibon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7969 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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wilgartw wrote: > i suppose my question is can i do it the other way round. if i buy a > sonos, and this allows me to keep my spotify account going forward, can > i then use the output from a sonos to feed into my existing SB devices. > i realise that the synchronisation will not be there but that is ok. No. Sonos is mainly speakers. They have a display-less standalone box that acts like a Squeezebox by letting you connect this Sonos box to a pre-amp or receiver to feed content to your home stereo system. Squeezeboxes are feed over the local network by a Server or Internet connection via MySB.com. As far as I know, the only thing would be some type of Bridge that would take a Sonos stream and enable it to be feed to an LMS Server if that is even possible. *iPhone* Media Room: ModWright Platinum Signature Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Transporter, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Office: Touch with Vandersteen VSM-1s Kitchen: Touch in-wall mount w/ Thiel Powerpoint 1.2s Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Around the House: SliMP3, SB1, SB2, SB3 Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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philippe_44 wrote: > You can use UPnPBridge to stream from LMS to Sonos. I've also made a > Chromecast and an Airplay bridge to help smooth (as much as possible) > integration between LMS and these systems i suppose my question is can i do it the other way round. if i buy a sonos, and this allows me to keep my spotify account going forward, can i then use the output from a sonos to feed into my existing SB devices. i realise that the synchronisation will not be there but that is ok. wilgartw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19007 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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raven22 wrote: > I decided to switch systems as well. A Spotify family account is not > easy to implement and does not give you all the Spotify options. > Tried Sonos but was not very impressed by the sound quality. Not that is > is bad but I settled with players from MUSAIC. Their players have > besides a quite good musical quality, integration with ITTTF. I'm using > their MP5, MP10 and the MPL player, all easy to set up, work like a > charm and even my wife is happy with them! > > Anyway i enjoyed my squeezeboxes (Touch, Boom, Radio) a lot over the > last 12 years. Secondhand they still make a very decent amount of money > so the investment in the new Musaic players was not all that big. . . Great having you around over the years. Glad you found something that you feel will work for you. It is ALWAYS a bonus when the better half can actually use it plus doesn't mind having it in the room! Nothing like a pair of Apogee Acoustics Duetta Signatures placed six feet off the back wall sticking out into the living room with room warmers stacked up on both sides of the TV to cause problems with the better half! My issue with Musaic and Sonos is the same issue. For me, I can't deal with a system that will be outdated because the main part of the system is -*THEIR*- speaker. For quick sound in a room, I have my Boom and Baby Units (or combine a Touch with a pair of AE 5+ speakers). For true music listening, I unfortunately require real stereo with correct phase and time alignment that reproduces the soundstage of the recording as close as possible for the amount of money I wish to spend, which currently is impossible with a single enclosure the size of a large loaf of bread (everybody seems to be falling for the Bose's Lie). There is a reason that both Musaic and Sonos DON'T list the frequency response of their products. And of course there is my investment is Digital Media since I have been buying CDs since the early 1980's. . *iPhone* Media Room: ModWright Platinum Signature Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Transporter, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Office: Touch with Vandersteen VSM-1s Kitchen: Touch in-wall mount w/ Thiel Powerpoint 1.2s Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Around the House: SliMP3, SB1, SB2, SB3 Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I decided to switch systems as well. A Spotify family account is not easy to implement and does not give you all the Spotify options. Tried Sonos but was not very impressed by the sound quality. Not that is is bad but I settled with players from MUSAIC. Their players have besides a quite good musical quality, integration with ITTTF. I'm using their MP5, MP10 and the MPL player, all easy to set up, work like a charm and even my wife is happy with them! Anyway i enjoyed my squeezeboxes (Touch, Boom, Radio) a lot over the last 12 years. Secondhand they still make a very decent amount of money so the investment in the new Musaic players was not all that big. Setup: 1 Touch, 4 Booms and 1 Radio. Server: LMS 7.8 (DebianVM in Proxmox), Tonido for webbased playback raven22's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16511 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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wilgartw wrote: > > i have been trying to workout a way of phasing my approach, streaming > from sonos to SB or vice versa. i assume this cannot be done. You can use UPnPBridge to stream from LMS to Sonos LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBoxOne, XBMC, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi B3, B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+, Odroid-C1, Odroid-C2, Cubie2, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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exile wrote: > thanks to those that think the thread is helpful. thanks for this thread i am in the same boat. i use spotify, BBC iplayer and my own music library. I have 3 x duets and a SBRadio. i can handle the occasional evening or two without one of the services, but my girlfriend cannot. It is too temperamental (SB not her). I have been looking at a boom, another radio or touch for the garden, and don't know if i should invest furtherer jump ship. I also have an amazon echo, but i am still waiting for the SB app. i have been trying to workout a way of phasing my approach, streaming from sonos to SB or vice versa. i assume this cannot be done. wilgartw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19007 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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exile wrote: > thanks to those that think the thread is helpful. > > Arniceous, much of what you said originally was misleading and that's > the annoying part. Sonos isn't an open source product like LMS but it's > also not a closed product like itunes or Apple products. It's not an > Apple product and it really doesn't operate as an Apple type product. > It's pretty robust in what it offers and it isn't restrictive in my mind > at all. > > For me, I needed a product that consistently works with streaming > services. I also wanted to steer away from the endless tweaking and > maintenance that my LMS system required. If LMS had easily co-existed > with Spotify on my system I wouldn't have switched. > > I've dealt with digital music servers for long enough to realize that > there'll always be some technical issues but at least for now I have a > multi-room system that works well and without dropouts and to me that's > priceless. . . Enjoy the Music, wherever it comes from! Hopefully you will check back in every once in a while to see how things are, how Squeezeboxes is doing, and see who is "Bashing" you next. Good Luck! It is all relative but more importantly it is especially relative to personal preference and more specifically one's needs. Exile had all good reasons to want to try something new and go with a change. I have looked at Sonos many times but three main things have always stopped me from going with them. First is there Server has a library size limit which I exceeded several times over years ago. Second Sonos reminds me of Apple with everything being proprietary and closed so other companies can't make accessories. Third, there products are way over priced for what one ends up with especially since Audiophile Streaming is coming our way IE Sonos reminds me of Bose Radios that are just networked and not actually about HiFi. Also, I always read and hear about people having "Issues" with drop outs or buffering or syncing issues. I have had maybe four in 10 years to which I immediately solved. I have yet to ever find any of these issues to be Squeezeboxen or LMS issues. They seem to always be due to trying to do more then one's setup can handle IE not enough bandwidth, not enough Server processing power, poorly laid out WiFi Network, bad WiFi channel choice (living in a 400 unit apartment complex with everybody on the default channel), or Squeezeboxen at the maximum range of one's WiFi coverage or one to many brick walls between it and the WiFi Router. I ran Ethernet to my two farthest and all fixed position units and built a shelf in the top of my Network Closet so my WiFi router is as high as possible but still inside the house in a climate controlled location. I have not had a single Squeezeboxen or LMS issue in years. I did the same thing for my parents' setup and my sister's home and things work flawlessly (powerful enough Server, proper network layout). When I visit them, I check for updates and that is all I have had to do in over 6 years. Five or ten years ago, Servers and Harddrives were more expensive and smaller with less powerful processors. For many Squeezeboxen users, simply updating/upgrading their servers and fixing their local network issues would eliminate most complaints or issues. I have been using Vortexbox for almost a decade and now having the OS running all by itself on a 60GB SSD with four 8TB hard drives in the server hard drive bays runs perfectly. *iPhone* Media Room: ModWright Platinum Signature Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Transporter, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Office: Touch with Vandersteen VSM-1s Kitchen: Touch in-wall mount w/ Thiel Powerpoint 1.2s Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Around the House: SliMP3, SB1, SB2, SB3 Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I have 2 SBB's and I love them. But when Logitech dropped Sirius/XM I knew I would eventually have to switch. I use the Squeezebox app on my Ipad and that works fine. I never was into LMS. It was too much of a hassle. So I bought into the Sonos system and the app is very easy to use. The units are always in sync. They sound great and it's easy to build playlists. Sonos works great with the files on my desktop PC. The only problem with SONOS is they are expensive. The cheapest way to get into SONOS is the play 1 speaker ($200) each. I have 2 so for $400 you get 2 great sounding speakers. I also have 2 Play 5's which are expensive. But the ease of use is worth it to me. There aren't a lot of options out there for streaming music unless you go with bluetooth speakers and they don't sound half as good as SB or SONOS. Lennyd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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bb1959 wrote: > Paragraphs were invented for a reason but I don't even think that would > have helped. That was too hard to read. I can't understand run on sentences. It drives me crazy. Lennyd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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:) im glad its working for the best -LMS 7.7.2 | AS-604T | WiFi Radio x 3 | DLNA x 5- Arniceous's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62899 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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thanks to those that think the thread is helpful. Arniceous, much of what you said originally was misleading and that's the annoying part. Sonos isn't an open source product like LMS but it's also not a closed product like itunes or Apple products. It's not an Apple product and it really doesn't operate as an Apple type product. It's pretty robust in what it offers and it isn't restrictive in my mind at all. For me, I needed a product that consistently works with streaming services. I also wanted to steer away from the endless tweaking and maintenance that my LMS system required. If LMS had easily co-existed with Spotify on my system I wouldn't have switched. I've dealt with digital music servers for long enough to realize that there'll always be some technical issues but at least for now I have a multi-room system that works well and without dropouts and to me that's priceless. exile's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4579 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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garym wrote: > Yep, I use spotify playlists all the time (my own and spotify official > lists). I'm using the logitech official app/plugin along with the SPH > plugin, and playing to transporter, boom, touch, and radio. What I really meant -but misworded- is that I have not found a way to create a Spotify playlist from LMS, or any other SB Client. If I oisten to Spotify and create a Playlist, it is a SB Playlist, not a Spotify playlist. I'd prefer the playlist to be more universal... that's all. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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exile wrote: > slightly annoying but whatever. > > the point of this thread was first and foremost to thank this community > because it has served me well for over a decade and secondarily I wanted > to say that I switched to sonos because I have abandoned localized music > files for a streaming service. > > I also thought it could be helpful for anyone in the squeeze community > that has been struggling with Spotify and LMS to think in terms of > switching to Sonos. My LMS was not consistently working with spotify. I > now have four rooms of sonos and I have zero streaming problems and to > me that's worth the switch alone. The added bonus is that the sonos > server operates very similarly to the LMS and so I don't feel as though > I've sacrificed much by abandoning squeeze. > > But go ahead and bash away at sonos and my decision if that's what you > want to do. And the picture you attached is a Connect Amp and not a > Sonos connect. my reply was not bashing please don't take it as such I simply stated facts I don't know you at all Sir, but you just conveyed in a direct reply now that you were leaning away from stored music and wanted more streaming service that is exactly what Sonos does so then this is case that is a prefect fit for you. I don't have a premium acct with Spotify to test it out against my squeeze players and I do not use streaming services except radio station links and my archived music so again we are on a different page. Bare in mind that sonos may have issues everyone has different issues please reference this link as an example ---> https://en.community.sonos.com/troubleshooting-228999/the-good-with-the-bad-541397 Hopefully you have an easy migration & good lucky with your new venture -LMS 7.7.2 | AS-604T | WiFi Radio x 3 | DLNA x 5- Arniceous's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62899 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Dogberry2 wrote: > I don't see how anybody could. Can't even tell what language it is! Paragraphs were invented for a reason but I don't even think that would have helped. bb1959's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=24793 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Grumpy Bob wrote: > I can't quite understand Arniceous' post! > Robert I don't see how anybody could. Can't even tell what language it is! Dogberry2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I can't quite understand Arniceous' post! Exile - I think there is a considerable appeal in the Sonos approach to music streaming, and it has been interesting to hear your motivation for the switch, and your experiences. Robert *Home: *Raspberry Pi 3/piCoreplayer/LMS7.9 with files on QNAP TS-239 Touch > DacMagic 100 > Naim Audio Nait 3 > Mission 752 (plus Rega Planar 3 and Naim CD3) PiCorePlayer(Pi2) with touchscreen and IQAudIO DAC+>Sennheisers 2 x Squeezebox Radios, 1 X Squeezebox 3 (retired) *Office:* LMS7.9 running on WiFi MyPassport drive > piCorePlayer(PiB)/HiFiBerryDAC > Amptastic Amplifier SqueezePad, iPeng as controllers last.fm/user/GrumpyBob Grumpy Bob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Arniceous wrote: > just chiming in... slightly annoying but whatever. the point of this thread was first and foremost to thank this community because it has served me well for over a decade and secondarily I wanted to say that I switched to sonos because I have abandoned localized music files for a streaming service. I also thought it could be helpful for anyone in the squeeze community that has been struggling with Spotify and LMS to think in terms of switching to Sonos. My LMS server was not consistently working with spotify. I now have four rooms of sonos and I have zero streaming problems and to me that's worth the switch alone. The added bonus is that the sonos server operates very similarly to the LMS and so I don't feel as though I've sacrificed much by abandoning squeeze. But go ahead and bash away at sonos and my decision if that's what you want to do. exile's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4579 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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just chiming in... Sonos had One Store only in Santa Barbara , CA they supposedly opened a store in Manhattan, NY but more disturbingly to me is now also available in apple stores . I personally hate anything to do with apple wow dude you got to be kidding me I took a look at Sono's Magical Music Server it looks like an iproduct I = apple all over which I wouldn't even get near, you may obtain this server at maximum price at vendors like BestBuy or Target. I sometimes in emergencies buy media at BestBuy that's about it also on amazon im guessing you shopped there. services like Spotify or , Sirius XM ,, Amazon Cloud Player, Apple Music etc.. never have peeked an interest for me simply because my libraries are larger bottom line so paring your sonos smart speaker to your rack mount NAS or prefabbed NAS if you are lucky to have obtained that much music is no different than using a squeezebox UE radio Grace Audio which also communicates with LMS for I have one as well.. I was impressed with Sony's radio station capability many do vary from manufacture if you search out genre specific and favorite stations throughout the world I don't see the point in the hardware change except that sonos will probably limit you eventually with proprietary software bundling you may not even be aware of at this time. truthfully if I play my music via DLNA from a projection screen or through a whole house sound system tied in DLNA is clearly the portal for a PB or larger library not a player with 3rd party streaming services I mentioned; you can get that from a flipping computer. -LMS 7.7.2 | AS-604T | WiFi Radio x 3 | DLNA x 5- Arniceous's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62899 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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SlimChances wrote: > I got 4/6 with my crappy computer monitor speakers. The results of the test indicate that most people can't tell the difference: http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/09/412271433/audio-quality-quiz-results-you-did-slightly-better-than-guessing-randomly exile's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4579 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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exile wrote: > here's a fun test: > http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/02/411473508/how-well-can-you-hear-audio-quality > > I have audioengine A2 speakers attached to my computer and I was able to > get 4 out of 6 correct but even that level of accuracy leads me to > believe that it's very hard to tell the difference between low quality > mp3 files and high quality uncompressed. I got 4/6 with my crappy computer monitor speakers. Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1480516903 @ Wed Nov 30 15:10:50 UTC 2016 Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux Perl Version: 5.22.1 - x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1) One SB Touch connected by ethernet - Denon AVR -1912 Receiver, Paradigm 4.1 speakers Two SB Radios wireless SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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here's a fun test: http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/02/411473508/how-well-can-you-hear-audio-quality I have audioengine A2 speakers attached to my computer and I was able to get 4 out of 6 correct but even that level of accuracy leads me to believe that it's very hard to tell the difference between low quality mp3 files and high quality uncompressed. exile's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4579 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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exile wrote: > yes, that's the trade off with sonos. no display screen but it has > volume control on the top of each speaker and it has most of the same > features as squeeze ( i.e., alarms, sleep timer, etc.) so losing the > display screen isn't such a big sacrifice to me. Yes, definitely the trade-off - I have no desire to have tablet/phone in the bedroom, and if I did, fidgeting through to the app to operate a Sonos is not attractive to me (OK for managing a HiFi connected device though). Quite possibly, had there been an SBR equivalent in the Sonos line-up I might have jumped ship! I'm hanging in there with a mix of Raspberry Pi, Squeezebox Touch, Squeezebox Radio... Bluesound seem to have gone for a similar product range as Sonos. Robert *Home: *Raspberry Pi 3/piCoreplayer/LMS7.9 with files on QNAP TS-239 Touch > DacMagic 100 > Naim Audio Nait 3 > Mission 752 (plus Rega Planar 3 and Naim CD3) PiCorePlayer(Pi2) with touchscreen and IQAudIO DAC+>Sennheisers 2 x Squeezebox Radios, 1 X Squeezebox 3 (retired) *Office:* LMS7.9 running on WiFi MyPassport drive > piCorePlayer(PiB)/HiFiBerryDAC > Amptastic Amplifier SqueezePad, iPeng as controllers last.fm/user/GrumpyBob Grumpy Bob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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quadronado wrote: > > It's seems if nowadays you have to use a shitty app or at least a > touchscreen for almost everything. I don't really want this at home. yes, that's the trade off with sonos. no display screen but it has volume control on the top of each speaker and it has most of the same features as squeeze ( i.e., alarms, sleep timer, etc.) so losing the display screen isn't such a big sacrifice to me. exile's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4579 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I still have my SB 3 - and use it some - with my main/family room stereo, an NAD receiver, a set of PSB speakers, an Oppo universal player. That said, my daughter bought me a set of Sonos Play:1 speakers for my 60th birthday and it utterly changed my listening life. I suppose if you have very, very nice stereo equipment this won't do, but as reviewers have noted, the Play:1s punch way above their weight. They're very flat out of the box and the Sonos room tuning is a subtle, but welcome addition. To the point: I have a few thousand CDs, lots of FLAC/ALAC files, as noted a decent stereo, good headphones, and a love of tinkering. But I still use the Sonos about 90 percent of the time - it sounds that good. Spotify at 320 kpbs ogg is indistinguishable from lossless to my ears. (At 60, my ears are the ultimate hard limit; I have tinnitus and hearings loss above 12-13K). My listening habits have changed as well; I listen to far fewer complete albums, and far more radio and radio-like things. Pandora, Slacker and TuneIn get at least 50 percent of my time. Again, I still like and use my Squeezebox, and have a Boom and Duet on the shelf. But I get why Sonos is so popular, even among those of us who couldn't care less about lifestyle products. s. satkinsn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11398 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Grumpy Bob wrote: > Interested by your comments re Squeezebox Radio - the features I need > are all hardware features: a display, buttons to preset with playlists, > hardware volume control, and a hardware navigation through the music > collection and radio stations...for bedside and kitchen use these all > seem essential to me. > > Robert Yes, that's it's exactly why I like the Squeezebox Radio so much. (Not to mention the openess of the Squeezebox system with its various plugins and its wide support of tags and music sources) It's a pity that there is no replacement for the Radio. Neither in the Squeezebox world nor in any other system. I think there a several devices similar to the Squeezebox Touch (mostly RaspberryPi with Touchscreen). But there's nothing like the radio with all the hardware buttons, small size, portable with rechargeable battery. As you said, perfect for bedside and kitchen. It's seems if nowadays you have to use a shitty app or at least a touchscreen for almost everything. I don't really want this at home. quadronado's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=60946 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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exile wrote: > To clarify, the Sonos Connect is basically the equivalent of a > squeezebox but with no display screen. Most of the other Sonos products > are a hybrid speaker and wireless streaming device and again none of the > Sonos products have display screens. You can buy the Sonos speakers as > single units or pair them together to make true stereo speakers for a > room. > > And Sonos also offers all of the same features as squeezebox radio. Interested by your comments re Squeezebox Radio - the features I need are all hardware features: a display, buttons to preset with playlists, hardware volume control, and a hardware navigation through the music collection and radio stations...for bedside and kitchen use these all seem essential to me. Robert *Home: *Raspberry Pi 3/piCoreplayer/LMS7.9 with files on QNAP TS-239 Touch > DacMagic 100 > Naim Audio Nait 3 > Mission 752 (plus Rega Planar 3 and Naim CD3) PiCorePlayer(Pi2) with touchscreen and IQAudIO DAC+>Sennheisers 2 x Squeezebox Radios, 1 X Squeezebox 3 (retired) *Office:* LMS7.9 running on WiFi MyPassport drive > piCorePlayer(PiB)/HiFiBerryDAC > Amptastic Amplifier SqueezePad, iPeng as controllers last.fm/user/GrumpyBob Grumpy Bob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Grumpy Bob wrote: > Likewise unfamiliar with Sonos, but I do believe it has a unit designed > to be connected to a separate amplifier/speakers (maybe it's the > Connect?). I think if I switched to Sonos, that's what I'd go for, but I > think I'd miss having an equivalent to the Squeezebox Radio. > > Robert To clarify, the Sonos Connect is basically the equivalent of a squeezebox but with no display screen. Most of the other Sonos products are a hybrid speaker and wireless streaming device and again none of the Sonos products have display screens. You can buy the Sonos speakers as single units or pair them together to make true stereo speakers for a room. And Sonos also offers all of the same features as squeezebox radio. exile's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4579 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Yep, I use spotify playlists all the time (my own and spotify official lists). I'm using the logitech official app/plugin along with the SPH plugin, and playing to transporter, boom, touch, and radio. *Home:* VortexBox 4TB (2.3) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.3) > LMS 7.8 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win8(64) > LMS 7.9 > Squeezelite *Spares:* Transporter, Touch(3), Radio(3), Boom, SB3, CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng & Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win8(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpoweramp > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pablolie wrote: > Spotify is 320k - if one configures high quality streaming under options > - which sounds plenty good. A well-implemented 320k MP3 stream will > pretty much be CD quality, and the vast majority of people won't be able > to tell it apart from a FLAC stream (I can only do so for a very few > tracks that are extremely well recorded and which I am extremely > familiar with, and even though it's a highly unenjoyable experience to > listen so critically). > > The one issue with Spotify in the SB ecosystem is the i n a b i l i t y > t o p l a y p l a y l i s t s f r o m S p o t i f y . I don't > think there's a way to show up SB devices as playback devices in the > Spotify app? Then again Spotify's playlist management to this day is > kinda frustrating. What you mean exactly? 21827 and from the "What's New" 21828 +---+ |Filename: A playlist spotify 2.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21828| +---+ Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Spotify is 320k - if one configures high quality streaming under options - which sounds plenty good. A well-implemented 320k MP3 stream will pretty much be CD quality, and the vast majority of people won't be able to tell it apart from a FLAC stream (I can only do so for a very few tracks that are extremely well recorded and which I am extremely familiar with, and even though it's a highly unenjoyable experience to listen so critically). The one issue with Spotify in the SB ecosystem is the inability to play playlists from Spotify. I don't think there's a way to show up SB devices as playback devices in the Spotify app? Then again Spotify's playlist management to this day is kinda frustrating. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 12) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Grumpy Bob wrote: > Likewise unfamiliar with Sonos, but I do believe it has a unit designed > to be connected to a separate amplifier/speakers (maybe it's the > Connect?). . > > RobertRight that makes more sense Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1480516903 @ Wed Nov 30 15:10:50 UTC 2016 Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux Perl Version: 5.22.1 - x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1) One SB Touch connected by ethernet - Denon AVR -1912 Receiver, Paradigm 4.1 speakers Two SB Radios wireless SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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SlimChances wrote: > Not completely familiar with Sonos other than my neighbour's system > which seems to consist of a single speaker about the size of coffee mug. > I don't think that produces anywhere the fidelity of my mid range stereo > system. I don't see how it could produce decent sound and is mono. I > realize Sonos has stereo speakers also but it looks a little pokey to > me > > Just my take Likewise unfamiliar with Sonos, but I do believe it has a unit designed to be connected to a separate amplifier/speakers (maybe it's the Connect?). I think if I switched to Sonos, that's what I'd go for, but I think I'd miss having an equivalent to the Squeezebox Radio. Robert *Home: *Raspberry Pi 3/piCoreplayer/LMS7.9 with files on QNAP TS-239 Touch > DacMagic 100 > Naim Audio Nait 3 > Mission 752 (plus Rega Planar 3 and Naim CD3) PiCorePlayer(Pi2) with touchscreen and IQAudIO DAC+>Sennheisers 2 x Squeezebox Radios, 1 X Squeezebox 3 (retired) *Office:* LMS7.9 running on WiFi MyPassport drive > piCorePlayer(PiB)/HiFiBerryDAC > Amptastic Amplifier SqueezePad, iPeng as controllers last.fm/user/GrumpyBob Grumpy Bob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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exile wrote: > spotify on sonos streams 320kbps OGG. > > I'll preface this by saying I'm not a serious audiophile but I've > noticed no difference between my squeezebox flac playback and the sonos > spotify streams. Not completely familiar with Sonos other than my neighbour's system which seems to consist of a single speaker about the size of coffee mug. I don't think that produces anywhere the fidelity of my mid range stereo system. I don't see how it could produce decent sound and is mono. I realize Sonos has stereo speakers also but it looks a little pokey to me Just my take Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1480516903 @ Wed Nov 30 15:10:50 UTC 2016 Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux Perl Version: 5.22.1 - x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1) One SB Touch connected by ethernet - Denon AVR -1912 Receiver, Paradigm 4.1 speakers Two SB Radios wireless SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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spotify on sonos streams 320kbps OGG. I'll preface this by saying I'm not a serious audiophile but I've noticed no difference between my squeezebox flac playback and the sonos spotify streams. exile's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4579 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Is Spotify still restricted to MP3 format? I assume Spotify still does not support lossless formats such as FLAC or even hi res? Main Source: Transporter Amp: Cyrus 8XPd QX Speakers: PMC twenty:23 CD/HDD Recorder: Alesis Masterlink ML-9600 http://www.last.fm/user/norderney1962 norderney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Squeezemenicely wrote: > The only bad thing is, the Sonos community is so boring compared to ours Ha! So true and maybe that's partly why I resisted switching to Sonos for so long. On the plus side, Sonos does work fine with Flac files but with the transition to streaming as my primary source of listening the fact that Sonos isn't as well set up to play all varieties of music files isn't a real issue for me. exile's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4579 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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hagensieker wrote: > Still every service I use has an app. Yes, that is annoying, but I guess it is how vendors want it - lock-in into *their* app, rather than something that can be integrated. :( "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Hi Exile, if Spotify is what you listen to, I can completely understand you crossing over to the dark side ;-) The ease of use on Sonos and the reliability are great for that, friend of mine has Sonos and I never get a call that something is not working, whilst two friends that I got started on LMS plus PIs run into issues once in a while. For people who love their own large library especially also with hires files, Sonos isn't an option, strange they have still not redone their Boxen to accommodate these users. So enjoy your Sonos, absolutely the right decision for your needs. The only bad thing is, the Sonos community is so boring compared to ours, so you will loose a bit of a hobby. All best and happy listening. Gesendet von iPad mit Tapatalk LMS 7.9.0 - 1470391720 on Pi2 (Max2play) Synology DS-414 NAS Squeezebox Touch, Squeezebox Boom, Squeezebox Radio, HifiBerry PicorePlayer Schiit - BIFROST AKM 4490 Dac Spotify Premium Squeezemenicely's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41812 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Whatever works for you is what is best for you:D I've thought a couple times LMS had a foot in the grave. I almost bailed when MOG went bye bye. I thought that was the beginning of the end. Then when the Triode Spotify app seemed broken I just knew it was over. Then Spotify got fixed and Tidal came along. I'm happier than ever, but I get it, I really do. I'm wondering if the LMS app will cover Tidal Master quality though. I wrote a blog on my own page (which likely no one has ever saw :D) and surmised that with everything having an app now that a server type system wasn't really necessary. The blog was in regards to using bluetooth speakers though.. Still every service I use has an app. At work where I don't have wifi I plug my phone with unlimited data into my tube amp (yeah I have a tube amp at work) and stream Spotify off of it. hagensieker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59959 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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To each his own as they say... Give Spotify or one of the other services a try. Those 64,000 tracks are a drop in the bucket to what is available through streaming. exile's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4579 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I am a very happy Transporter/iPeng user. My Transporter is now about 10 years old. Where did that time go? Seems like yesterday when I was taking it out the box and installing it on my HiFi rack. I have over 64,000 FLAC tracks stored on my server hard drive. I think that alone would prevent me from moving to Sonos. I believe there is a 50,000 or 60,000 track limit on Sonos systems. I've never really got into using the streaming services like Spotify. Main Source: Transporter Amp: Cyrus 8XPd QX Speakers: PMC twenty:23 CD/HDD Recorder: Alesis Masterlink ML-9600 http://www.last.fm/user/norderney1962 norderney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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thanks for the chromecast suggestion but I've already converted to Sonos. Also, i should've added that I'm happy to sell my Squeezebox collection: 2 squeezebox 2's 2 squeezebox 3's 1 pogoplug running as a wired squeezebox 1 remote exile's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4579 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Sonos have Spotify Connect now so you can use the native Spotify client. If I only going to use Spotify a Chromecast Audio is a good and cheap option. SB Touch to Yamaha A-S501, Boston Acoustics A26. SB 3 to Audio Pro T3. SB BOOM SB Radio ReadyNAS 202 iPeng bernt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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i know that for many others out there the LMS/Spotify partnership is great so I can only speak to my own experience. my system was two squeezebox3's and two squeezebox2's with a dedicated mac mini server running on a fast (average of 90mbps) wireless network, I ran into recurring problems getting the spotify streams to play on one box and way too many problems having multiple boxes play spotify in sync. For me, the lack of consistency with spotify was the final straw. I would've much rather stayed with Squeezeboxes (the cost alone to go sonos is brutal but more importantly I'm giving up ten years of trackstat ratings and stats.) but I no longer have the patience to troubleshoot squeeze server issues. Over the holiday, I spent a week with my brother-in-law who has a sonos system for 5 rooms and in the course of playing spotify music for seven days we ran into zero problems with syncing or playing any and all tracks and that sealed the deal for me. Also, the fact that there's no real future development of the squeeze product line also helped me make the move. exile's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4579 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Just have to ask how Sonos works better with Spotify? I am a very happy LMS/Spotify user, and wondering if I am missing out on something... "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] A Final Goodbye and thanks to this amazing community
So after more than a decade of dedicated squeezeboxen life I find myself moving onto a Sonos system. Therefore, I simply want to thank this entire community because it's the folks here on this forum that made my squeezebox audio listening experience so rewarding. The true power of the squeeze server was it's open source structure and community plug in development. I loved using a variety of plugins to customize, organize and generally focus my listening experience. Big thanks to: michael herger, greg brown, richard titmuss and Gordon Harris for their hard work. And the two people that completely transformed how I listened to and used my squeeze system: Pippin and Erland. I move onto Sonos now which I know will not completely replace my squeeze system but hopefully it will advance my music listening experience. The main reason I finally switched is because I no longer need to listen to my own music. Spotify pretty much satisfies all of my listening needs and Sonos just simply works much better with spotify. Thanks for all of the great listening over the years... exile's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4579 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106703 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
